Should Court of Owls Be The Story For The Next Film?

#1 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean you have a mystery that needs detective work and you have supernatural villains to separate it from Nolan...

Seems like a good choice to me. There would need to be some minor changes though.

#2 Posted by havoc1201 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

i would like to see that,it would work

#3 Edited by The_House_of_L (906 posts) - - Show Bio

Would love to see Court of Owls on the big screen.

#4 Posted by MuyJingo (1793 posts) - - Show Bio

A resounding no. That story is trite, and I think it's best left to rest.

#5 Posted by Mild_Karl (131 posts) - - Show Bio

It'd be really, really neat, I think, but they won't let whoever makes the next Batman get away with it. The new Batman movie will have to have a strong, recognizable villain to sell & while the Court of Owls was a fun story, I don't think that's something that'll sell to audiences as the big "return to Gotham & return to Batman" story whenever DC decides to pick up from the groundwork that Nolan laid down.

That's just how I see it. Think an animated adaptation would sell though.

#6 Posted by Vincent92 (261 posts) - - Show Bio

@OutlawRenegade: i don't think so because the story also connected to dick grayson's family history and would be weird without him, plus i would want the next to establish batman and robin story

#7 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vincent92 said:

@OutlawRenegade: i don't think so because the story also connected to dick grayson's family history and would be weird without him, plus i would want the next to establish batman and robin story

The I guess we disagree because I never want to see something as silly as Robin working with Batman on film. I'm with Bale on this one even though Bale is no longer in the role. Robin makes Batman less badass IMO. And you don't need the Dick Grayson parts for the story to work. #Don'tMeanToSoundLikeAPrick

#8 Posted by SmashBrawler (5955 posts) - - Show Bio

@MuyJingo said:

A resounding no. That story is trite, and I think it's best left to rest.

Yup, I'm not sure if I'd like to see Batman R.I.P./The Cult-lite on the big screen.

#9 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mild_Karl said:

It'd be really, really neat, I think, but they won't let whoever makes the next Batman get away with it. The new Batman movie will have to have a strong, recognizable villain to sell & while the Court of Owls was a fun story, I don't think that's something that'll sell to audiences as the big "return to Gotham & return to Batman" story whenever DC decides to pick up from the groundwork that Nolan laid down.

That's just how I see it. Think an animated adaptation would sell though.

Another villain like Riddler or Clayface could be added in.

#10 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8900 posts) - - Show Bio

It could be good if helmed by the right people. But we'll never see it.

#11 Edited by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

Im loving snyders work but i wouldnt like to see the court of owls as a movie

It was snyders weakest story by far

#12 Posted by wessaari (629 posts) - - Show Bio

i would prefer it to be a DC Animated Movie. But longer than usual to actually cover up some of Dick's inclusion. If they get the right animators or artists to convery Capullo's work, and Snyder to be behind on it, than im all in

#13 Posted by ReachDestroyer (54 posts) - - Show Bio

There's so many better stories they should do as animated movies before Court of Owls. Killing Joke, I'm looking at you.

#14 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

The problem is that the court of owls would come across as very similar to the league of shadows, unless you went ahead and made them actually undead, which might not work with what we're used to seeing in the Batman films.

#15 Posted by SpadesSlick (29 posts) - - Show Bio

The Court of Owls would work better as the second or third in a trilogy instead of the first.

#16 Posted by Freddy_F_Freeman (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Court of Owls would be great for the big screen imo, only problem is people might shy away because there isnt a well known villain, i also think the way death of the family is going it seems like it would make a great 2nd or 3rd movie in a trilogy

#17 Posted by gotwillpower (679 posts) - - Show Bio

What's with all of The Court of Owls hate? It would work wonderfully! Not to mention, it would probably encourage more people to read the comic version, which would in turn bring more readers into comics! Seriously, The Court of Owls if what brought me into comics.

Also, it's not "trite" just because there are two similar bad guys (Black Glove, Court of Owls). Or, if you say that breaking Batman and then having him make a come back is trite, then haven't many more Batman stories been similar since Knightfall? Technically, all stories follow an archetype, but that doesn't mean they are bad.

#18 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20387 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crom-Cruach said:

It could be good if helmed by the right people. But we'll never see it.

This.

#19 Posted by SmashBrawler (5955 posts) - - Show Bio

@gotwillpower: Because RIP and The Cult were superior stories?

#20 Posted by joshmightbe (24937 posts) - - Show Bio

I would like to see the next movie be the start of a trilogy that takes Dick Grayson from Robin to Nightwing. First movie opens whenhe's a kid in the circus, his parents die Bruce takes him in, he finds out he's Batman. Flash forward a couple years and say Bruce trained him so you have say a Robin between 15 and 17 just starting his crime fighting career, have him prove he's useful but Batman is still top dog. Second movie jumps ahead to Dick somewhere around 19 to 21 and is growing tired of being in the background and coming into conflict with Bruce and the movie ends on a darker tone with Dick quitting as Robin and the third he will come out as Nightwing and be forced to come back to Gotham to help Batman with a mission where he meets New Robin Jason Todd. At the end Batman comes to accept Dick as his own man and leaves a possible opening for a live action "Death in the Family" movie. And you call the whole thing the Shadow of the Bat trilogy.

#21 Posted by gotwillpower (679 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmashBrawler: Oh, sorry, I don't know what I was thinking. You're right, they are superior in every way.

#22 Edited by SmashBrawler (5955 posts) - - Show Bio

@gotwillpower: Not artwise (at least R.I.P.). They have a lot more substance than The Court of Owls, though. I'm not a Snyder hater, The Black Mirror and Hungry City had more substance too.

#23 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

No not really. Maybe an animated film but not a llive action movie. Id prefer the next movie to be a batman and robin movie, to redeem the boy wonder's name and make him cool to audiences again and so we can get that John Robin blake travesty out of our minds

#24 Posted by joshmightbe (24937 posts) - - Show Bio

Look folks us Robin fans accepted Nolan's disrespect for Robin cause he made some great films but now that he's out of the director's chair we want our boy wonder done right, none of that Chris O'Donnel nipple suited bulls**t

#25 Posted by Jake Fury (18933 posts) - - Show Bio

A Court of Owls movie? Half of the issues were Batman stuck in a maze.

#26 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8900 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg said:

unless you went ahead and made them actually undead, which might not work with what we're used to seeing in the Batman films.

The problem with that statement is that the next Batman movie can't be Nolanesque. It has to be fantastical. Why because we need to see a movie that is at least as enjoyable as Iron Man 1 (talking about entertainment value not tone) where we see the JLA batman (I've always contended that there are many batmans).

We need a batman that can through tech, insane level of skill and competence as well as almost supernatural levels of foresight and intelligence compete and defeat threats that are clearly super-human. We need to see the Batman that can take on White Martians, fight demons and defeat meta-humans. Otherwise the Batman of the next movie will have no place in a JLA feature.

To this end his enemy should be one with super-powers and resources and be a personal threat to at least city wide through his own power. We need the Poison Ivy who's mutant plants can crush sky-scrapers. We need the Hugo Strange we can make an army of monsters. We need the demonic enemy of Harvest Breed only ranked up to 100.

#27 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Too many elements came together through Snyder and Capullo in print that just wouldn't work in mainstream cinema.

#28 Posted by entropy_aegis (15456 posts) - - Show Bio

@OutlawRenegade said:

I mean you have a mystery that needs detective work and you have supernatural villains to separate it from Nolan...

Seems like a good choice to me. There would need to be some minor changes though.

Wait what detective work?

#29 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Good God no. 

#30 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crom-Cruach said:

@fodigg said:

unless you went ahead and made them actually undead, which might not work with what we're used to seeing in the Batman films.

The problem with that statement is that the next Batman movie can't be Nolanesque. It has to be fantastical. Why because we need to see a movie that is at least as enjoyable as Iron Man 1 (talking about entertainment value not tone) where we see the JLA batman (I've always contended that there are many batmans).

We need a batman that can through tech, insane level of skill and competence as well as almost supernatural levels of foresight and intelligence compete and defeat threats that are clearly super-human. We need to see the Batman that can take on White Martians, fight demons and defeat meta-humans. Otherwise the Batman of the next movie will have no place in a JLA feature.

To this end his enemy should be one with super-powers and resources and be a personal threat to at least city wide through his own power. We need the Poison Ivy who's mutant plants can crush sky-scrapers. We need the Hugo Strange we can make an army of monsters. We need the demonic enemy of Harvest Breed only ranked up to 100.

If even their Superman movie is "nolanesque", I don't think they're going to change that formula even with another director.

#31 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell yeah!

#32 Posted by Kesho_Ronin (209 posts) - - Show Bio

movie NO,animated movie YES

#33 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@OutlawRenegade said:

I mean you have a mystery that needs detective work and you have supernatural villains to separate it from Nolan...

Seems like a good choice to me. There would need to be some minor changes though.

Wait what detective work?

I'd rather not spoil the last few issues. It has to do with Bruce finding out who runs the court.

#34 Posted by Dernman (15237 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think it would work out for a live action movie. It would be nice for an animated though.

#35 Posted by entropy_aegis (15456 posts) - - Show Bio

@OutlawRenegade said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@OutlawRenegade said:

I mean you have a mystery that needs detective work and you have supernatural villains to separate it from Nolan...

Seems like a good choice to me. There would need to be some minor changes though.

Wait what detective work?

I'd rather not spoil the last few issues. It has to do with Bruce finding out who runs the court.

I have read the issues,no one ran the Court.It was organization of faceless,generic characters whom no one cares about cause the writer was more busy with the ninja zombie stuff.

Lincoln March himself was just an average joe who only appeared in a handful of pages before he suddenly became Owlman and Bruce's younger brother.

#36 Posted by SupBatz (1780 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kesho_Ronin said:

movie NO,animated movie YES

I agree with this. I imagine that it could work as a live-action film but I think it'd probably be done the most justice as a DTV animated film.

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