Scott Snyder's batman vs Grant Morrison's batman

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#1 Posted by scouts1998 (596 posts) - - Show Bio

Both writers have had acclaimed runs batman titles so who do you think is better Scott or Grant. This includes all batman related titles.

Scott Snyder's series are detective comics #871 - #881, batman volume 2 #1 - current, #0, annual #1, batman gates of Gotham #1 - #5 and Talon #0, #1 - Present

Grant Morrison's series batman volume 1 #655-658, 663-683, 700-702, batman and robin volume 1 #1-16, Batman, Incorporated volume 1 #1-8, Batman, Incorporated volume 2 #1-current and Batman, Incorporated: Leviathan Strike

if i missed anything please fill it in below

#2 Posted by serpent222 (319 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of either one. I'll give Snyder the edge simply because I'm loving the Death of the Family.

#3 Posted by SmashBrawler (5823 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison.

#4 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison. His run on Batman and Robin is still my favorite run. I've never had as much fun reading a batman book until morrison started writing them

#5 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

Snyder

#6 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

Tie. I truly cannot say one is better than the other. Both have GREAT runs on the Dark Knight.

#7 Edited by tupiaz (2185 posts) - - Show Bio

Grant Morrison have also written Legends of the Dark Knight 6-10 (known as Batman Gothic).

#8 Posted by JediXMan (30709 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't read Snyder's run, so it wouldn't be fair for me to judge. That said, I'm a big fan of Morrison's Batman run, and pretty much everything Morrison related.

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#9 Posted by Billy Batson (58070 posts) - - Show Bio

Snyder's run isn't even finished.

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#10 Posted by Squalleon (4626 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

Snyder's run isn't even finished.

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Neither does Morrison's if you count Batman INC

#11 Posted by Billy Batson (58070 posts) - - Show Bio

@Squalleon said:

@Billy Batson said:

Snyder's run isn't even finished.

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Neither does Morrison's if you count Batman INC

His Inc. is just an aftermath. His main story is finished.

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#12 Posted by MrShway88 (655 posts) - - Show Bio

I like both. Morrison's Batman is awesome (fighting a flock of man-bat ninjas) and Synder's storying telling always keeps me wanting more. I will say that Synder is a better writer but I wish he stopped getting his Batman beat up so much. Now I will say Synder has the better Batman but that can change depending on Synder's future work. Morrison's Batman in the current Batman Inc. is kind of boring but he does have his cool moments.

#13 Posted by tupiaz (2185 posts) - - Show Bio

Somehow Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth seems to be forgotten.

#14 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29505 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison.

Not even a contest.

#15 Posted by The Stegman (24661 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Synder's ongoing run better than anything Morrison has ever done with Batman.

#16 Posted by Harlekin (681 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison gave us Damian Wayne so he wins.

#17 Posted by SmashBrawler (5823 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

Grant Morrison have also written Legends of the Dark Knight 6-10 (known as Batman Gothic).

@tupiaz said:

Somehow Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth seems to be forgotten.

These aren't part of his Batman run, they're just other Batman stuff he has written. You could find some connection between them, but they still wouldn't be part of his Batman run, technically speaking.

#18 Edited by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer Synder and I'm a huge Morrison fan in general. There's a lot of stuff I dislike about Morrison's Batman.

Morrison also gave us Return of Bruce Wayne, Final Crisis and JLA.

#19 Posted by tupiaz (2185 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmashBrawler: I read as it was all batman stories they have written and not necessary their runs.

#20 Posted by dondave (38007 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison

#21 Posted by Lvenger (20269 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn this is tough. They're not really comparable if I'm honest given their different styles. Snyder is better at darker, more twisted stories and Morrison has a knack for big concept writing. All in all I like them both very much for different reasons.

#22 Posted by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

Love both but morrisons run is longer and more consistent

#23 Posted by StMichalofWilson (3858 posts) - - Show Bio

Both. They do good writing. Though Snyder does a good job with the thriller part and Morrison does amazing work when it comes to superhero comics....

I have to go with both.

#24 Posted by TDK_1997 (14902 posts) - - Show Bio

Even when Snyder's run is finished I think it can't be compared to Morrison's run.It is just the best.

#25 Posted by Night Thrasher (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

Somehow Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth seems to be forgotten.

Wasn't that more about Morrison's joker?

#26 Posted by Dernman (15160 posts) - - Show Bio

Not really a fan of Morrison so there you go.

#27 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

The correct answer is Morrison.  
 
Saying Snyder means you lose my respect forever.

#28 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

The correct answer is Morrison. Saying Snyder means you lose my respect forever.

Snyder.

#29 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@John Valentine said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

The correct answer is Morrison. Saying Snyder means you lose my respect forever.

Snyder.

I'll chock that up to the terribleness of AvX causing a minor mental glitch for you. O_O
#30 Posted by Dernman (15160 posts) - - Show Bio
@John Valentine said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

The correct answer is Morrison. Saying Snyder means you lose my respect forever.

Snyder.

Snyder  
 
Kinda brought it on yourself. :p
#31 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@John Valentine said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

The correct answer is Morrison. Saying Snyder means you lose my respect forever.

Snyder.

I'll chock that up to the terribleness of AvX causing a minor mental glitch for you. O_O

Nah.

I'm a massive Morrison fan, but I prefer Synder's Batman. I think pretty much all of Synder's stuff's been good, however, a considerable amount of Morrison's stuff, especially after RIP, fell flat for me.

#32 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@John Valentine: But Snyder's run is just Morrison's ripped off, toned down and with all the imagination taken out. Just torture porn with Batman in it.
#33 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@John Valentine: But Snyder's run is just Morrison's ripped off, toned down and with all the imagination taken out. Just torture porn with Batman in it.

I'm not just talking about New 52 Batman, I'm also talking about his stint on Detective Comics with Dick as Batman.

Morrison loses himself in his obsession with Silver Age obscurity. Batman: Return of Bruce Wayne just wasn't very good and some of Batman and Robin Vol. 1 wasn't that great, either.

I'm pretty much indifferent to Batman Inc and most of the members are just D-list Batman rip-offs.

Scott Snyder's work is a less "conceptual", darker and a more realistic take on Batman. I prefer this to the obscurity and confusion that Morrison brought half of the time. That said, Batman and Son and RIP were very good story arcs.

#34 Posted by briangsharon (147 posts) - - Show Bio

Hate Morrison's work.

Snyder all the way

#35 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (7027 posts) - - Show Bio

Snyder

#36 Posted by tupiaz (2185 posts) - - Show Bio

@Night Thrasher said:

@tupiaz said:

Somehow Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth seems to be forgotten.

Wasn't that more about Morrison's joker?

It sure tells something about the Joker. Hover Batman is in it and present the entire story. It is more a story about the entire Batman universe and is psychological well being (or the lack of this). It is an artistic book and seems very dreamy/not straight forward (still don't know where to put in chronological). It is one of the few comic books where I have put it down and been ok, what was going on here at what was the point of the story. Need to reread this. Most confusing was the flashbacks and where Amadeus Arkham fits in the story.

#37 Posted by roboadmiral (546 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

The correct answer is Morrison. Saying Snyder means you lose my respect forever.

It'll be a massive loss, but somehow I'll survive. Snyder.

#38 Edited by JoeEddie (484 posts) - - Show Bio

Snyder for me. I do not like Morrison as a writer or as a person. New X-Men, Cassandra Nova, changing Beast's appearance, publicity stated that Batman is gay, having Joker imply that there is a homosexual relationship, and because of the age difference you know what else this implies, between Batman and Robin in Arkham Asylum: Serious House/Serious Earth and the list goes on. All of this is from Morrison.

@Harlekin said:

Morrison gave us Damian Wayne so he wins.

By taking an idea from an Elseworld story that he did not even read.

#39 Posted by SmashBrawler (5823 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz: Well, the OP does say "Both writers have had acclaimed runs [in] batman titles" :P

#40 Posted by tupiaz (2185 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmashBrawler: I know. I still read is as a reason for comparison not other works weren't allowed to be talk about.

#41 Posted by SmashBrawler (5823 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz: Fair enough, I guess. OP still forgot about Final Crisis and The Return of Bruce Wayne.

#42 Edited by The_Tree (7526 posts) - - Show Bio

Easily Morrison for me. I love everything about his run, from the introduction of Damian, Batman jumping through time, and his reinterpretation of the Silver Age Batman stories of old, it's just fantastic.

Snyder's good, but he has a lot of work to go to beat Morrison. I thought that The Black Mirror was brilliant and so was his Court of Owls up until Batman got sucked into the maze. The quality of Snyder's work also begins to weaken as crossovers start to plague his stories.

#43 Posted by jrock85 (2874 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

Morrison.

Not even a contest.

#44 Posted by Onemoreposter (4065 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison.

In my mind, these two authors's stories aren't even close in quality.

#45 Posted by Lvenger (20269 posts) - - Show Bio

@Onemoreposter said:

Morrison.

In my mind, these two authors's stories aren't even close in quality.

Personally I think their styles are too different to compare. Snyder does a better darker twisted Batman story but Morrison is better with big concept, obscure Silver Age revamped stories. They're too different to properly compare

#46 Posted by Mucklefluga (2570 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison EASY

#47 Posted by Mucklefluga (2570 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoeEddie said:

Snyder for me. I do not like Morrison as a writer or as a person. New X-Men, Cassandra Nova, changing Beast's appearance, publicity stated that Batman is gay, having Joker imply that there is a homosexual relationship, and because of the age difference you know what else this implies, between Batman and Robin in Arkham Asylum: Serious House/Serious Earth and the list goes on. All of this is from Morrison.

@Harlekin said:

Morrison gave us Damian Wayne so he wins.

By taking an idea from an Elseworld story that he did not even read.

Well Snyder has basically been implying that there is a homosexual relationship between Bats and Joker too.

#48 Posted by JoeEddie (484 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mucklefluga said:

@JoeEddie said:

Snyder for me. I do not like Morrison as a writer or as a person. New X-Men, Cassandra Nova, changing Beast's appearance, publicity stated that Batman is gay, having Joker imply that there is a homosexual relationship, and because of the age difference you know what else this implies, between Batman and Robin in Arkham Asylum: Serious House/Serious Earth and the list goes on. All of this is from Morrison.

@Harlekin said:

Morrison gave us Damian Wayne so he wins.

By taking an idea from an Elseworld story that he did not even read.

Well Snyder has basically been implying that there is a homosexual relationship between Bats and Joker too.

I don't see it. Yes, I saw the last panel where Batman said he saw love in the eyes of Joker. I took it as Joker needs Batman and vice versa. It's the same concept that was in Killing Joke that their relationship/feud can never end.

#49 Posted by entropy_aegis (15341 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrison easy,Snyder ever since he started his run on the mainstream Batman book relies on the same old story telling devices,over exposition that is not worth a damn,crossover events and misguided stunts/gimmicks.

#50 Edited by entropy_aegis (15341 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoeEddie said:

@Mucklefluga said:

@JoeEddie said:

Snyder for me. I do not like Morrison as a writer or as a person. New X-Men, Cassandra Nova, changing Beast's appearance, publicity stated that Batman is gay, having Joker imply that there is a homosexual relationship, and because of the age difference you know what else this implies, between Batman and Robin in Arkham Asylum: Serious House/Serious Earth and the list goes on. All of this is from Morrison.

@Harlekin said:

Morrison gave us Damian Wayne so he wins.

By taking an idea from an Elseworld story that he did not even read.

Well Snyder has basically been implying that there is a homosexual relationship between Bats and Joker too.

I don't see it. Yes, I saw the last panel where Batman said he saw love in the eyes of Joker. I took it as Joker needs Batman and vice versa. It's the same concept that was in Killing Joke that their relationship/feud can never end.

I am not a fan of the idea either but at least Morrison can convey it subtly,Snyder has to literally hammer a point to get it across.

@Billy Batson said:

Snyder's run isn't even finished.

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Actually INC is the main story,it started with Damian & Talia and it's gonna end with them,granted I prefer his Batman & Robin to Batman Incorporated.

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