@comicdude23 said:
@Pokeysteve said:
Rises had more plot holes than any other movie I've ever seen. It's 3 hours of contradictions. If Nolan directed "2 Girls, One Cup" people around the world would praise it. TDK was beautifully paced and you were on edge the entire time. That being said I still hate all 3 Nolan movies. The Animated Series was the best Batman. Part Detective and part bad ass. Nolan's is neither.
Don't be silly. TDKR had no plot holes. Name them and I will debunk them all.
@entropy_aegis said:
@comicdude23 said:
Just like to speak my opinion on this:
- TDK was more realistic. TDKR was silly at times.
- TDK had better acting, Ledger was amazing.
- TDKR had little drama and too much action. TDK balanced it out well.
- TDKR felt ridiculous at times, a nuke, a prison underground, Batman sending cops to their death, etc.
- TDK was more down to Earth
That being said. Both still trump Batman Begins.
Congrats you mentioned the same thing 3 times and the point is irrelevant.Realism does not make a better movie.
Realism works for Batman. Burton took the approach of an unrealistic Batman and a Batman that is closer to the comics but it sucked balls. Nolan made a gritty, dark real Batman. And it worked. Both were better than Batman Begins, but TDKR felt a bit silly. Completely different from TDK, instead Nolan went back to Batman Begins with the ninja crap. I prefer the gritty, mobster stuff in TDK. TDK dealt with real world issues, corruption and escalation.
Batman in TDK, saved the hostages and disarmed SWAT, making sure no-one got killed.
Then in TDKR, he LEADS AN ENTIRE ARMY OF COPS INTO THEIR INEVITABLE DEATH.
It's not inevitable you know seeing they won and the cops themselves volunteered remember when Blake said that they were all ready to fight to the Captain? and there were only 40 minutes to the detonation.They were cops not random kids.
In TDK Batman allowed Harvey Dent to take his place which led to the chase sequence where people died,see I can find silly holes too.
Everything works for Batman,just have to find the right story and forgive me but Burtons Batman was nothing like the comics Batman.
TDKR being silly is your opinion,I can just as easily say that Joker in a nurse outfit was the silliest thing in the entire franchise,TDKR was ofcourse completely different from TDK I'm sorry but how is that a flaw?Yeah and I'm glad Nolan went the ninja route,I dont give a damn about gangsters and corrupt cops whom Batman could realistically destroy in a few seconds.
@SupBatz said:
@entropy_aegis said:
@SupBatz said:
Fair enough.
Though I think someone should make a "Reasons why TAS is better than the Nolan trilogy" thread next >.>
I dont know how one can compare them.Cartoon series(which tied in to a larger universe) against a 3 movie series does'nt make sense to me.
Quality can always be compared regardless of how different in tone and media. And the fact that both series are representations of the Batman universe also makes it easier to compare the two.
Though admittedly, the only reason I even brought up TAS is because I've tired of hearing so much about Nolan's Batman.
Not really,just like you cant compare Adam Wests Batman with Nolan's Batman.And especially not a cartoon with a movie,there is more creative freedom and less pressure on the former as compared to the latter.
Nolan's Batman is the most successful mainstream Batman both critically and financially,BTAS is so 2 decades ago ofcourse you're gonna be hearing about Nolan's Batman.@Gibbet said:
@comicdude23: Gravely sorry my friend but TDK was the best
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/?a=64971
Using a site known for it's trollish users,it gives good comic fans a bad name.
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