Off My Mind: Heroes Fighting...Without Clothes
Every great hero needs a great costume. The costume is what defines the hero. The costume becomes their trademark. Where would your favorite hero be today if they had an awful costume? Where would they be (besides locked up for indecent exposure) if they didn't have a costume at all?
Let's take Batman for example. What would have happened if instead a bat flying into his den to inspire the design of his costume it was a...pigeon? Would Bruce Wayne still be the same tough crime fighter he is today? We will actually get to see how Bruce does without all his bat-garb in the upcoming Return of Bruce Wayne miniseries.
What about the question of where a hero gets a costume? When Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider, not only did he gain the proportional strength of a spider but also the proportional skills of a talented seamstress. Some heroes will piece their costumes together with items they find at a sporting goods store while others may be luckier and have someone like Reed Richards make a suit out of unstable molecules. I also seem to recall a costume shop owner secretly making costumes and repairs for heroes in the Marvel Universe. Perhaps someone can refresh my memory on that one. For some reason I'm thinking it happened in a Spider-Man comic but that doesn't seem to make sense since Peter is always having to sew his own costume.
What happens if a hero is not prepared? A hero has to be ready at all times to fight crime. If their identity is kept secret, they can't fight without any clothes. This is something that Power Girl has tried teaching to Atlee.
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A hero also has to choose their costume wisely. Once they reach a certain status, it's hard to change their look. Sure Wasp was always changing her costume from issue to issue but other heroes have tried only to be forced back into their old suits. Spider-Man found the symbiote costume and we know how that went. Superman went for a blue/electric look and most of us would rather forget that. Iron Man changed his color scheme to red and white but had to switch back to red and gold.
Not all heroes seem to put a lot of thought into their costume. Take the current Superboy and Wonder Girl. I like both characters but they seem to be trying to set their own standards, jeans and a t-shirt. Whenever I see them fighting with the veteran heroes, I wonder if there's any resentment. The older heroes have put a lot of time (and sometimes money) into designing their costume. These kids just throw on a t-shirt and run out the door. At least they're not fighting in sweat pants (no offense to those that wear sweat pants as part of their daily wardrobe).
If a hero is caught with...their pants down, where does their loyalty lie? What is more important, protecting their identity or protecting the innocent? I may have asked before but if you were a crimefighter, what kind of costume would you wear? Would you go with the sleek design of spandex for increased movability? Would you try to get some armor to protect your private bits? Would a cape be a crucial part of your look? Or would you not put a lot of time into it and just fight in whatever you happen to be wearing or can find at the moment?
Is a hero still a hero without their costume? With great power, must there also be a great costume?
Now that you mention it, G-Man, in one of the Last Rites titles (Batman #682, "The Butler Did It"), Alfred "imagines" how it would have been if not a bat, but a moth or a... sort of... reptile or green bug... had inspired Batman. Pretty funny :P
Also, it seems that super-sewing comes with all spider-powers too. I remember Jack Black doing something similar some years ago.
Edit: BTW, there is something that has always amazed me... How come Doc Savage gets his shirts torn apart always at the exact same place? Bad quality clothing, I guess.
I agree Heroes need costumes. But, I heard once that it's not the costume that makes the hero, its the heroes mind that makes him a hero. Although heroes need costumes to keep their identity safe except super-man he just pushes his hair forward and boom he's super-man. Pushes it back and he's back to being Clark kent.
Despite some ridiculous costumes, I think that almost all of our favorite superheroes, whether the big guns like Superman and Spider-Man or some of the lesser known ones like Blue Beetle and Moon Knight, their costumes are great. It's hard to imagine how it would be had their uniforms been initially designed differently. MAYBE we'd be saying the same thing now about those costumes, wondering how it would be if Batman was in any other color besides purple. I think it's more a matter of us being used to seeing them in their current attire all our lives, and we have a tough time picturing them differently.
I always did wonder though, no matter what Bruce Banner wore, whenever he turned into Hulk, he ended up with ripped purple shorts. You suspend your disbelief whenever it happens. But if you sit and think about it, it's pretty dumb, no?
Heroes need costumes. They always ware it under their normal clothes, if a hero does not have their heroic clothes under their regular clothes they will either have to improvise like what Peter parker did. When he was wearing his peter parker clothes with a spider-man mask.
In the B&W return of Bruce wayne picture. You can see that Bruce is wearing his Batman pants and boots.
Heroes need their costumes to be heroic, it would look weird if a person wanted to be a hero without a costume.
What would have happened if instead a bat flying into his den to inspire the design of his costume it was a...pigeon? ..... G-Man
Like G-man said "What if a pigeon crashed into Bruce's den instead of a Bat?" This would happen if anything else crashed into Bruce's den instead of a bat.
I don't think its heroic to change in a alley, especially while talking about hero stuff while their is people around.
I want to give a good example out about batman the brave and the bold, but I don't want to get in trouble so I won't. It's a future episode, but I have not seen it its only pictures I saw.
Revealing secret Identities not cool we saw lots of this in civil war.
Costumes are important, it keeps heroes identities safe. Without them we would have only few heroes.
Well these days with super hero costumes sold at stores you could just buy then mix and match/color.
Though.. haha I already have costumes I came up with
Besides! Every good hero knows about Goodwill and bargain chains, plus some cloth and some scissors and your all set!
Okay, I think Namor is pretty cool... In the pages of Roy Thomas' Invaders, and early issues of FF and The Avengers. But I am seriously creeped out by a pointy-eared dude with wings on his heels kickin' @$$ in a speedo! I'm sure Toro's and Bucky's retina's were seared by the image! Master of the Seven Seas - indeed! Get that "Trident" away from me, man!
@Bobby X said:
I would "Namor" it. I wouldn't want my dazzling fighting techniques to be hindered by anything as trivial as proper surface-dweller attire.
This happened in Spider-Man: The Other. Spidey had to go fighting shirtless while the guy finished his repairs.
i think the answer to this is when rorschach screams "give me back my face!!!!!!!!!!!" yeah that tells you the story right there all heros are somewhat "insane" in that the costume represents them the real them they dont act with out it for it defines them watchmen did a very good job of describing that
after all putting on the owl suit solved the owls "little" problem.........so there you go
First off, capes are lame and useless (unless it's useful for protection and flying). If I were a superhero of course costumes matters as much as saving lives since you'll have that reputation. But there will be times where you won't have time to put on the costume and just have to fight what you wearing. Of course you'll be exposed, but if you use your powers where folks won't notice then it's ok. That's one of the reasons why I like Wolverine, He just fights whatever he has on, costume or not.
Unless I had some sort of invulnerability, I'd want to wear something really large and flowing, like a really big, really light cloak. It'd conceal where my body was, so I'd be a bit safer when up against bullets, since whoever was shooting at me wouldn't know where in the cloak my body was. Of course I'd also want to wear some armor, but the best way to protect yourself from gunshots is to not get hit at all.
If I had invulnerability, I might wear spandex, but I'd have on a cup. I don't need my junk showing through, especially if my sailor were to be brought to full attention, if you get my meaning.
"i have to agree
i'd be fightin naked all the time, I HAVE SUPER POWERS! LOOK AT MY JUNK, ITS SUPER JUNK!"
they would say: put on clothes, id be like, make me
then i would put out a flaming building with a 'windmill' or 'helicopter'
so bazinga to all those who try and force me to fit in
f**k you !
im a goddamn superhero!
" @DH69 said:
"i have to agree they would say: put on clothes, id be like, make me then i would put out a flaming building with a 'windmill' or 'helicopter' so bazinga to all those who try and force me to fit in f**k you ! im a goddamn superhero! "
i'd be fightin naked all the time, I HAVE SUPER POWERS! LOOK AT MY JUNK, ITS SUPER JUNK!"
no, no, no. sure. it seems like the super is coming off all wild, and trying to psyche out
his opponents into thinking their so hardcore they dont even need clothes to fight.
no, its not about what their opponent sees, they're tough enough to fight them clothes
and i dont think anyone can argue with what Sue Storms next move was now can they, hmm?
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