They need either Catwoman or Talia in an anti-hero/anti-villain tragic love interest role or Huntress (Helena Bertenelli) as the rival "lethal" vigilante.
Just another "normy" would waste a perfect opportunity, but the film does need a female lead.
Talia al Ghul makes the most sense but it could be a part for a all new character. As far as Nolans movies go, I dont recall him ever wasting time on the love story to the point where it gets in the way of the action. I feel good about him doing this movie.
I don't see why this movie needs a female lead. I mean the guy just lost someone he's known since he was 8 and who he loved. Unless the next film picks up years after TDK (which would be odd, but still could work) then having him fall in love with someone else would feel cheap. But if it has to be done, go for Talia since the set up is there and Ra's can come back without a problem.
I wanna say 'No' batman does not need it. But looking at the way Ivy's ASSets were drawn in that pic made me think twice... Just kidding, to be honest, I want Talia with him, it makes sense since Ra's was in the first movie,maybe they can get her pregnant so that we can see Damian in the movies....
"I think that Catwoman or Talia would be the best choice for the movie-verse....I keep seeing people that say they want Harley but for me Harley having a first appearance without the Joker just doesn't work "
"They need either Catwoman or Talia in an anti-hero/anti-villain tragic love interest role or Huntress (Helena Bertenelli) as the rival "lethal" vigilante. Just another "normy" would waste a perfect opportunity, but the film does need a female lead. "
In this case, the answer is yes. Rachel had a specific function in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, and it wasn't just "generic love interest". She was Bruce's human side. In Batman Begins, she essentially set him on the path to training himself and becoming a force of justice and not revenge. In The Dark Knight, she shows Bruce that a man like Harvey Dent can be a hero; when she dies, she also causes his crisis of faith in his own mission, which he resolves by taking the wrath of Gotham and focusing it on himself.
In Batman 3, a character that would perform the function of restoring his faith and showing him a new way forward would be very appropriate, and it would round out the trilogy nicely as far as that aspect of Bruce's mission goes. Personally, I think a version of Catwoman would be good for this, but really any new love interest could fill that role for him. In any case, it does make a lot of sense for a new female lead to be in the next movie.
Harley Quinn would make sense if Heath Ledger were still alive and the joker arc continued, but since that's somewhat impossible at the moment let's go with Talia for.
But seriously, looking at it now the Batman turning to be James Bond, where he gets new lady in every movie
I think the series could use a strong female lead. Rachel was practically the only female character (do we count Barbara Gordon?) and she certainly isn't returning.
I like the idea of Talia as a potential villain, but the love interest aspect of it isn't necessary.
" @danhimself: I don't really want Harley but they could bring her in because Joker is in Arkham and she's ticked at Batman or something. Committing chaos in Joker's name, etc. "
What would make sense:
1.) Harleen Quinzel still works at Arkham Asylum and makes a cameo, giving Bruce Wayne a tour of the premises.
2.) Selina Kyle is just a normal cat burgular who Batman stops and throws in jail. (who's also good at hand-to-hand combat - since Lucius Fox did say Batman's suit was ''cat proof'' in TDK)
3.) Talia Al Ghaul the twisted villain/love interest, looking for revenge but falls for Bruce Wayne, not Batman.
4.) A brief mention at the end of the film of a female 'Batman' with a crossbow running around the city.
Plus, if Nolan recognizes the growing success of Gotham City Sirens, he could make a smart move by bringing in some form of a kick-a$$ female.
There are a dozen women who should be a part of this movie. It's like listing through all the men that need to be in it... they're just characters belonging in the Batman universe.
Off the top of my head, these two are the one's I think would work perfectly
Leslie Thompkins - Thomas Wayne wasn't the only doctor in Bruce's life
Renee Montoya - surely there will be someone on the Batman task force asking questions.
Catwoman - we've seen in some form or another
Ivy - I imagine Nolan will avoid her like the plague
Vicki Vale - honestly, who doesn't think of Lois Lane?
Avenging a "loved one"
Harley - we're not going to see without the Joker
Talia - we've already seen Ra's ideas, don't need to see them again
Sofia - too two-dimensional for me to care about
I think Nolan will be auditioning girls for the role of Talia Al Ghul. But if he chooses a girlfriend instead say Vesper Fairchild Nolan could add a secondary plot to the story by making Bruce a fugitive for vespers murder. you could also do the same with Jezebel Jet and introduce simon hurt and the black glove as the criminal organisation taking over Gotham. on the other hand if he uses Talia and they get together they could introduce Damion in batman four (but that is a big if) but batman might not be old enough to have a kid considering he hasn't even got a sidekick yet. (which Nolan said he wouldn't include a sidekick as long as he was in charge)
" Leslie Thompkins - Thomas Wayne wasn't the only doctor in Bruce's life"The animated series and then reading back issues made me think this character has a lot of potential and it's my sincerest desire to see her in the Batman Arkham City videogame of all places... but I don't know if she works in the Nolan film series because her role is somewhat similar to Rachel, Alfred, Thomas Wayne flashbacks, and indeed R'as returning. Having this big moral nurturing humanizing figure suddenly spring up despite supposedly always being there would be a bit too much I think (and shades of R'as and Rachel).
" I think that Catwoman or Talia would be the best choice for the movie-verse....I keep seeing people that say they want Harley but for me Harley having a first appearance without the Joker just doesn't work "This.
I want talia to be the female lead just for a change in the movies thats a fun dynamic to watch translate on screen but im not against catwoman as long as it's not halle berry XD
Also i agree i want batman to show off his super sleuthing abilities in which he is famous for
it's was that major in Nolans movies. not really much of a love between rachael and bruce. thought it was more of a childhood fling thing. even though at the end of dark knight, with the letter and all, it's forgettable. the story can move on. would like to see catwomen or talia with bruce in the next film.
When I think "lead" I think of someone who makes it to the cover of the DVD or is featured on a poster. It's interesting that in Begins, neither Ra's, Scarecrow, or Rachel were able to make it to any image meant to represent the film... but in Dark Knight, there are a couple of different Joker centric or featuring posters, covers, promo sites, etc. So, in that sense, I think Batman needs supporting characters, definitely, and those can be female or not... but I don't know if he needs a female "lead" (using my narrow "poster-worthy" definition) of Joker prominence necessarily.
I'd want to tell a story that's a thematic progression from Begins and Knight but it's own and different story, and then find characters that fit rather than trying to jury rig a story around a character wish list. Begins is about the psychology of symbols and Knight is about how symbols escalate conflict and require hard choices (be it a one boat or another, one tied up victim or another, big brother cell phone surveillance, or being portrayed as the villain) where "right" is ambiguous or conflicting based on the measure (utilitarian v. moral; one life v. other; useful lie v. hurtful truth; etc) ... so the next step is what? I don't really know. If I had to guess it would be about humanity. Bruce exchanges it for the symbol in Begins and he makes soul wrenching compromises for it in Knight... so the third might be trying to not let the symbol consume and completely warp the necessary human core?
If that's the case, a female super villain love interest could match that theme because it hits both barrels... the human part that still needs and wants love, but the symbol part which is the only reason the Batman is coming in contact with this crazy person and the large part of his appeal to her. The weakness of this, of course, is that it's a little too love-centric for a character that stuffed all that down with Rachel and felt real loss there... and, as the story is told, the only reason she gets in and all the other flings don't is because she's a long-time childhood friend that knows him from before. I suppose you could play it as Bruce becoming, entirely, the Bat therefore it is Batman falling in love with Catwoman / Talia / etc. and not Bruce (and that, ultimately, as finale to the trilogy, Bruce has to "beat" Batman and reign him in for the purposes for which he was intended - to not let the symbol grow malignantly out of control- as with the copycats or mirror in Joker- in his own life)... but that feels like it's been done before?
The Nolan Batman is such a discrete and rational world I have trouble imagining the organic entry of a new love... and it's story first for me, so I'm skeptical, but I can see a path to it.
If trying to hit a character checklist, Catwoman is obvious but pretty rote by now. Vicki Vale is a traditional comic character but comic history doesn't really matter (see: Rachel / Ra's / etc). I really don't know any character that's a "must see".
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