September marks the beginning of a new era in the DC Universe. DC has made it clear that it's not a reboot. We've seen some solicits that acknowledge past events still exist in continuity such as Dick Grayson spending time as Batman. Seeing slight differences in character designs have raised speculation among readers and many find it hard to believe this is not a reboot.

As Flashpoint continues to unfold, it's becoming evident that there will indeed be a connection between the end of Flashpoint and the beginning of the "New 52" titles in September. We're seeing a new world of characters during this event and with all the work of fleshing out the characters, it's hard to believe that all that creativity will be swept under the rug and forgotten.

If there is a strong connection between the world of Flashpoint and what the DC Universe will become in September, what are the chances of Flashpoint characters surviving the transition? If Barry Allen and Booster Gold are able to exist in the Flashpoint world, what are the chances for a character like the Flashpoint version of Batman making it over in over into the regular DC Universe?

Let the warning go out that may be some minor spoilers about the current issues of the Flashpoint comics.

In The World of Flashpoint #2, there is a conversation between Madame Xanadu and Traci Thirteen. What is curious about this is when Madame Xanadu mentions another world. This gives the impression that this Traci Thirteen could have a role in the DC Universe that will exist after September. Who else will have a role?

There was also the reveal of the the Resistance in Flashpoint #3. There was a certain Wildstorm character that appeared. We know Grifter is getting his own series in September and this will establish him in the proper DC Universe rather than the separate Wildstorm Universe.

What we will most likely experience at the end of Flashpoint is some sort of event that will cause the Flashpoint universe to revert back to the normal DC Universe except some things will be different. This is be something like the Superboy Prime punch we experienced before that will change some continuity and cause minor changes moving forward.

If this is a way for Grifter, Voodoo and others to make it into the DC Universe, what's to prevent a Flashpoint character like this world's version of Batman to come over as well?

If you've been reading Flashpoint or Flashpoint: Batman - Knight of Vengeance, you know that Batman is Thomas Wayne. How crazy would it be to have Thomas Wayne alive in the DC Universe? This might feel like too much of a stretch since the minor changes that seem evident aren't completely changing characters' histories and origins.

I'll admit having Thomas alive could be too much for Bat-fans to accept. If he was alive, that would change Bruce's motivation to become Batman. This would rewrite everything there is about who Batman/Bruce Wayne is.

But what if Thomas has been alive all this time? We've seen seeds of the idea from Grant Morrison and Doctor Hurt (who we know is not Thomas Wayne). Reading Flashpoint and Thomas' interaction with Barry Allen, you get the impression that he is working with Barry for one reason, to ensure his son, Bruce, lives.

Depending on how any time ripple effects changes things, I could see Thomas surviving Flashpoint and literally living in the shadows. It could be that the point he is aware that he's in a different world, it would be too late to reunite with his son. If he sees everything that Bruce has accomplished as Batman, he could be content to sit back and admire what his son has become.

Whenever 'history' is rewritten, there's usually some event that causes the person in hiding to come out. There could be a reason for Thomas to suddenly reveal himself to Batman, whether it's himself or in another costumed guise, that's just minor details. If we wanted to get even more cliché, when Thomas makes his crossover journey, maybe he lost some of his memory as Barry was starting to forget his world when trying to regain his speed powers.

Flashpoint Batman is a cool character but the reality is, he wouldn't fit into the regular DC Universe. So far we've seen the solicits for the first two issues of the Batman-Family books. There hasn't been any sign of Thomas still being alive but there's always the chance he could pop up later. If we can see characters like Grifter suddenly be part of the DC Universe and Superboy's origin getting some tweaks, why wouldn't it be possible for a character that existed in the Flashpoint world to suddenly appear as well?

he survived the Omega Sanction I'm sure  he'll make it through the Flashpoint

So Thomas Wayne would be like the DCnu's version of Dark Beast?

Crazy idea Tony. I think you drank too much of that Prime Punch.

its possible but not probable

Tony, I love you, but sometimes you make me facepalm hard.
 
Flashpoint is happening in the main DC universe, Barry Allen stated it himself in the second issue, regardless of what we may think of events, it's not a separate unrelated elseworld story (not saying you said that, just clarifying).

And IT IS a reboot:
 
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/ten-dcnu-myths-busted-110629.html
 
They're doing the same thing as Crisis On Infinite Earths, only that they are keeping certain backgrounds and events as part of some of the characters.

I wish. I'd buy a Thomas Wayne batman book like a shot, even it was just an elseworlds series and not a part of the DCnU

Not a chance

lol i thought this was obvious. The moment they announced the revamp i knew half the crap that happens here would spill over.

who knows anything can happen with dc

If Thomas exists why would Bruce need to be Batman?  If his father was suddenly alive he would probably want to spend all his time with him and not spending his nights fighting crime and his days sleeping.

flashpoint is a stupid story wrote by an overrated writer thank GOD GL movie FAILED :P

flashpoint is a stupid story wrote by an overrated writer thank GOD GL movie FAILED :P

Well, Element(al?) Woman seems to survive Flashpoint right through the upcoming new JLA, so...anything's possible it seems!

flashpoint is a stupid story wrote by an overrated writer thank GOD GL movie FAILED :P

I REALLY want this Traci Thirteen to get an ongoing because I really like this flashpoint version, and it would be interesting if thomas wayne was still alive but I think it would be too weird that he had been in hiding for all of bruce's life.

its possible but not probable

In my opinion, they rather leave the Flashpoint universe and go with Thomas Wayne title in it than throw Bruce's daddy in regular DCnU. For me, even in reboot bringing back Thomas Wayne will be TOO MUCH of messing with Batman's story.

Grifter will  'awaken' with his history rewritten to some extent, along with everyone else as part of the new DCU. Thomas Wayne is different. He's already an important part of new DCU - the dead father (and catalyst for) Batman. That can't change, as it would destroy the character. If he abandoned Bruce when Martha died it just makes him kinda pathetic. I don't think he's going to be the interesting figure from Flashpoint. The only way Thomas should survive,is to have it be akin to something like Dark Beast coming to the  Marvel U after Age of Apocalypse. I mean this is a Batman, he's probably got a plan for this.

its possible but not probable

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

I would rather not have Thomas and Bruce going at each other.  They would not see eye to eye and we would end up with another Battle for the Cowl... 
As much as Thomas has came into the character of Batman, I don't think he would fit into the Bat Family.

Hmm. I don't see how that could work unless Bruce rejected him entirely as a father figure.

There could be a reason for Thomas to suddenly reveal himself to Batman, whether it's himself or in another costumed guise

In my opinion, they rather leave the Flashpoint universe and go with Thomas Wayne title in it than throw Bruce's daddy in regular DCnU. 

@Feliciano2040: In that same article:

Sure, those new characters and concepts in Flashpoint were cute, but did anyone really think they'd stick around?
Turns out they will, and as time goes on, we're finding out that more and more of them will be part of the DCnU.

My point is if characters like Grifter, who did not exist in the DC Universe before can appear in Flashpoint and then make it over when the universe reverts back why not other characters? I know Thomas is a stretch. I don't want it to happen. I'm just throwing in the possibility of what if it did. It could be cool, even if it'd be completely wrong. But we've seen crazier things happen.

And I love you too.

The easy thing to do  would be, just litteraly have Thomas Wayne from Flashpoint jump to the DCNU, like how Dark beast, the sugar-man, and the other AoA characters escaped to the main marvel universe. So therefore the main Bruce Wayne's dad is dead still, but Thomas Wayne is in  the DCNU.

I don't think he should, it would take away something from Bruce's character. In comics, there are like three characters who really need to stay dead, and those are the Waynes and Uncle Ben. Flashpoint gets away with it just based on the nature of the story, but knowing Geoff Johns, Thomas will probably die heroically. 

Bringing back Thomas Wayne (alternate reality or not), is bad for business it would basically rock Batman history to the core and if there is one thing they do not need to touch (anymore) is Batman's history . Now to the what if section of my comment, if your going to bring Thomas Wayne back he has to be a bad guy (with a hint of anti-hero). He has has to come into the regular universe overwhelmed that his "son is alive" but torn apart by his sons crusade, he needs to keep to the shadows (call him the Bat), find a way to amass a fortune, and stay off of Bruce radar. The last step is that he needs to start killing Bruce's enemies and when I say enemies I mean taking out Batman's big four and that's Joker, Riddler, Penguin, and Catwoman (can you imagine The death of Joker, or funeral for a foe story arch). 

As a few people have already mentioned, I think its obvious that the "new 52" will be a mashup of Flashpoint meets current continuity.  One thing I don't get is why everyone seems to think that if Flashpoint's Thomas Wayne carried over to the New 52 that it would make Bruce question his choice to become Batman.  Bruce still would have grown up with his parents being murdered, this Thomas is not the father that was gunned down in Crime Alley.  Actually, Flashpoint Batman has been responsible for the deaths of numerous Flashpoint criminals at that very spot.  Something that could set up some very interesting interactions between "father and son."  Bruce would not be pleased by how Thomas choose to honor his memory setting in motion great inner conflict on the part of both characters. 
 
All that being said, my guess is that Thomas Wayne sacrifices himself at the end of Flashpoint in order to setup the New 52 as a type of penance for the wrongs that he committed in the name of "vengeance."  I don't think Thomas would want Bruce to see what he became.  But there will definitely be a lot of bleed over characters and plot threads, my hope is that the Flashpoint Superman snaps current continuity out of his Forrest Gump-like walk across the country.

If he does, he's not allowed to live in the same universe as Bruce Wayne.

Because if any books needed more people, it's the Batbooks.

No, they wouldn't do that. I could potentially see an alternate universe splitting from Bruce's in which Thomas is alive, but he'll be dead in Bruce's universe all the same after the reboot.

That would be interesting as all hell to have Thomas Wayne be in the DCU following Flashpoint when the revamp comes. That could conceivably become a new "Batman and Son" storyline if it were to be..except instead of Bruce and Damian, its Thomas and Bruce this time. That would be great!

It is a reboot. The only problem fans have with a reboot is change, but since Flashpoint is typically an Elseworld's story gone rampant in the main universe then people shouldn't have any issues with all of the drastic changes and approval throughout the entire run (Flashpoint's run). I don't have a problem with it at all, except the crappy costumes with the armor, lines and robot boots. I'm surprised I didn't see bumper stickers on their torsos. Dupont Superman would finish villains first, for sure.
As far as Thomas Wayne goes, what role might he play outside of a voyeur intending no harm except to simply admire his son? His leaping from the gritty to Gotham City without speculation of his existence would leave the biggest question: if he's here, who was Thomas Wayne? What would be the purpose of a cold father figure who knew no son admire the one without a father figure? If this reboot directly affects everything, then none of the character development for the flashpoint characters should matter as they're disposable plot devices in the first place. It's plot hole after plot hole, and I think this is what DC intended to get rid of in the first place. I'm sensing Kal-L/Powergirl wishful thinking.
My only question is how would things affected on earth make Superman considerably younger?

@Feliciano2040: In that same article:

Sure, those new characters and concepts in Flashpoint were cute, but did anyone really think they'd stick around?
Turns out they will, and as time goes on, we're finding out that more and more of them will be part of the DCnU.

Am I still  the only person who thinks its uncanny that there's 52 new comic titles in the DCU, where there are 52 established alternate Earths?

Flashpoint is the DC Rehoot, Zoom messes it all up, Barry fails to put it back together completely as it was. So Element Woman and the Wildstormers will make it past september, lots of other things wont because they never happened in the Flashpoint world. 
 
Sigh...another thing that points to there will never have been a New Teen Titans...

I don't know if it would be great if they did bring him into the regular DCUN, but I would really love an ongoing or a 6 or 5 issue limited series about him facing other flashpoint versions of villains.

It's Batman, why is there doubt in your mind?

haha. no. not even a tiny chance.  all the obvious common sense reasons aside, that would ruin the dramatic climax of Flashpoint where Thomas willingly sacrifices himself so that the world can go back to "normal" and Bruce will be alive again. (come on you know it's coming, they couldn't possibly telegraph it any more).
 
or...you know...there's 2 months worth of solicits for most of the relaunch books and all the Bat-titles now. anyone see any Thomas Wayne anywhere?

One of the characters in the full JLA roster shown appears to possibly be Element Girl. So it sounds like there is a chance for Flashpoint characters to bridge over. What would be cool, is if at the very least Batman: Knight of Vengeance could be expanded upon in a Elseworld's story or something.

Like others have stated, I agree bringing back Thomas Wayne to the DCnU is not going to work, and for the reasons most have already stated, but lets not forget (whether or not this story holds in the DCnU) we basically just read about Batman's reaction to his fathers resurrection in Morrison's run on Batman, the whole Doctor Hurt thing would play itself all over as Bruce initially refuses to believe that it could be true.   
 
And as I said, yes that whole story arc could go bye-bye in the DCnU but they can't retcon our memories of reading the said arc.  And it would be folly of them to have someone try to rehash the same story with a new twists so soon.

I'm waiting for Flashpoint to become a tpb so i haven't been keeping up much except for these blogposts.  
Quick question: which issue is that first picture from? The one guy wearing the red and black with jeans looks like Tim Drake.