Yeah agreed, the h2h fights in all of the Batman movies have been underwhelming, I'd like to see some good fights in the next Batman movie.

i cried when I watched the akham origins trailer....if only games really looked and played like that

omg scott adkins!!! why have I never heard of him b4?!?!?!?!

What movie is that??!!

i MUST SEE IT!

@sog7dc: Hollywood hates Martial Arts movies and never let you know the staright to DVD heroes, since they do better action and it means they have to do thing in the right way and care for otheer thing that is not their overrated actors.

@rustyroy: Amazingly Batman has better action scenes when there is many people in them, the Swat scene in TDK has to be the best action scene in a Batman movie.

@cameron83: The Protector with Tony Jaa, Scott Adkins in El Gringo and Universal Soldier 4.

The Batman one if a fan film called The Last Laugh.

@deathpoolthet1000:

I cant believe ive never seen this stuff. ive been wtching jean claude van damme, scott adkins and juri boyka videos all day now

I think action is cool, but I hope they focus on characters and the story in the next Bat-Film. If they focus completely on action, I wouldn't like it.

Dude he was with Van Damme in Assisination Games, Universal Soldier 4, The Sheperd and the Expandables 2.

They had fight scenes in 3 of them.

Also Universal Soldier 3, had Van Damme as main star and was super duper amazingly good action scenes and they film the damn thing in like a week.

Always though a Dark Detective story would be the best option with a Batman movie, only because the detective/strategical Batman is my favorite kind.

@deathpoolthet1000:

Dude!! that was awesome! why does Hollywood hate good things? why couldn't scott adkins or jean claude vann damme play batman? why cant we have GOOD movies?!?!

high profile actor =/= good movie!

@sog7dc: Adkins is not well known for his acting, also Van Damme got better as an actor with the years, Hollywood is based on stars being famous and popular, not in being good, so is weird good actors could do as much as they want and what they want.

Bale was doing most of his stunts, even today people fear to hire him because he ants to do as much stunts as he can, not only that they did everything they could, he even got in a fight with the chinesse goverment.

Hollywood is infamous for want people to do bad fight scenes for some reason.

@deathpoolthet1000:

in case youre wondering I made it 1 minute and 38 seconds through that steaming pile of dung. lol I wish I could un see what I just saw. I wish actors like adkins or juri boyka or jean claude could at least play batman in the suit. that way he could do all the stunts and fight scenes and make them look good

@sog7dc: As long as the hunger games type movies are popular, they will never try to do this things.

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@deathpoolthet1000:

I couldn't understand all the hype surrounding that film. I thought it was meh. its a shame that in Hollywood real talent and artists get snuffed in favor of bullsh!^. like the people who mae practical fx and people who make great action sequences

@sog7dc: They belive that is more expensive and harder to do, not only that there is a well known fact that the not martial arts action fans, dont like long action sequences, that why micehal bay movies make so mcuh money, he give what they want, explosions, cgi and more explosions.

@deathpoolthet1000:

appealing to the lowest common denominator is no longer a bad thing I guess :/

@sog7dc: JCVD for Batman? That's would've been horrible. Bale can do action scenes easily(watch Equilibrium) but it was Nolan who didn't know how to direct a great h2h fight. It was a missed opportunity actually. The fights in Batman Begins were nice. The next Batman movie should definitely involve Martian arts but should not be the main focus of the movie.

@deathpoolthet1000 Yeah that swat scene is one of my favorite action scenes from the trilogy, one of the best display of Batman's skills in the movies.

@rustyroy:

i have to disagree. i just saw the clip from equilibrium and its really cringeworthy

I don't really like all these flying kicks and shit.

As Long as the fight scenes stay realistic,I like them.

@rustyroy: JCVD is better as an actor now, people overlooks his acting in JCVD his only movie that Rotten Tomattoes liked, those guys hate Van Damme and loved the movie, not only that, many people there and all over the world ask for an Oscar nomination, he was in many lists of best actors that year, with Rourke and Ledger, also his acting was by far superior that Sean Penn who saddly won the Oscar, for one of the worst movies i saw in ages, Milk many good actors in that movie give the worst acting of their lifes, Diego Luna acting was so bad he should won an Oscar for the worst acting of the 21 century.

@stronger: None of those video show fyling kicks.

Dude reallistic fight scenes are awful, Nolan scenes dont look like real fights.

That would people walk away of movies.

@sog7dc: Eh I thought it was okay, but Bale could do better. Still JCVD is definitely a Bad choice for Batman.

@deathpoolthet1000: Still can't see him as Batman, and I'm not saying he's a bad actor, I like his movies but he's doesn't suit Bruce Wayne or Batman. I can never take him seriously as Batman. He's acting is average at best.

Totally agree

The only reason why you've never heard of him is because he usually does foreign martial arts films. The ones that never make it to the U.S movie theaters. Believe me there are a lot of martial artist who's movies never make it to the U.S

@rustyroy: Yes, but avarage actor that take seriously their job will at the end doing better job that good ones that dont take their job seriously.

This is why Jennifer Lawrence is awful in big budget movies, she dont care for this movies, she is there for the money and in the other movies for the awards or because the recognition, this is an awful work ethics that many people have and people decide to overlook this, there is a list of people who have a very damn poor acting ethics .

Robbert Pattison hated Twilight like everybody, he did the worst job he could, it sound cool, but that dont change that he will suck if thing are not in the way he wants, very damn poor acting ethics and childish way to see the world.

Most of Hollywood today have horrible ethics.

Nicolas Cage has one of the best work ethics ever, the guy does the same job dont matter what and does everything he can in his movies, he almost never uses an stunt man.

Bale acting ethics are so mad, many people belive the reason why they dont try to push him, is because he will do most of them, they did everything they could to never put him inside of the Tumbler, he train 10 month for Equllibrium, also trained boxing with Dicky Ekclund, dancing, singing, speaks, french, spanish, japanese, mandarin, korean and has many crazy skills.

Keanu Reeves, you can make fun of the guy, but he will give money to the rest of the people in a movie production if he belive they where the real reason the movie was a hit, he will give his money to get other actors on set and train all his stunts for months, he train 7 month to do his sunts in The Matrix and now is doing Man of Tai Chi, where he again is doing as muchs stunts as he can, he train months again.

Van Damme got better with the years, he can act now and when he cares 100% gives a pretty damn good performance.

You can see Van Damme, does his best when is with people that cares, many of his movies are bad because those guys dont care.

Take the fact, he did Universal Soldier 3 with a super small budget in a week or 2, paying him only like 7 000 bucks, you have a guys that cares about his job and that is what actually Batman needs, a guy that will give everything he has.

Acting is the most overrated skill that an actor would need to be Batman, he will need to have the pasion and love for this job, right now in Hollywood the list is pretty damn small.

Batsuit does not alloy for good fighting

@deathpoolthet1000: I agree that passion and love for the character you're playing is very important but its not the only thing. But one needs match the requirements for the role also. Acting is definitely one of the important things in movies. I'm just saying there are other actors who can be as much passionate as Van Damme but also more suitable for the role and are better at acting. Also JCVD is over 50, I'd like to see someone younger in the role.

@rustyroy: People have being overrating acting for ages, many great movies dont have great acting and many movies with great acting end being horrible bad movies.

Not young Batman again, Nolan did it, i dont need to see that again, we saw year one as a movie, the comic books did year zero, besides Arrow is pretty much a ripoff of Nolanverse with an even younger Batman.

Also, i never talked about Van Damme being Batman, the guy could be Deathstroke, since he is looking like him, heck he even have the same haircut, i am talking of how people overlooks all the other thing Batman needs and how when they over look this in most role, they get the Hunger Games, Twilight and a bunch of this horrible things that are nothing more that actor porn.

Not only that, movies like Silver Linning Books or whatever it was called was acting porn at his best.

@jonny_anonymous: This is a myth, it does, the second video show this and also the Batman vs Captain America one.

Also did TDK Swat scene.

@deathpoolthet1000: batman needs to do BJJ and Capoeira, the man knows 127 styles for chrissake

@deathpoolthet1000: I'm not saying that they should do an origin movie again, I think Batman should be working for about 3-5 years in the reboot, but he shouldn't be too old. The problem I had with Nolan's movie was how they jumped from one movie to the other, we never truly got to know what happened between the movies. I would've loved to see what happened to the narrows and Batman working there with Gordon to clean out the mess, the transition from one movie to the other was rushed. In BB and TDK we see a inexperienced Batman and then we jump to 8 years later. I think they should make it like the James Bond series, each movie about different adventures of Batman. We got Year One in the movies but I want see year 2,3,4 etc too. and I can see Van Damme as Slade. Btw Who do you think will be good as Batman?

@rustyroy: Movies dont deal with those thing, look at Star Wars, most of the information we have is Expanded Universe, also there is no point in see eveything Batman does, the comic let you know youy dont see every damn thing Batman does, just the thing that are interesting and care.

Also James Bond movies have never being that interesting, there is huge plot holes and little character development, that why they reboot him and did the whole new trilogy.

I want Batman fight scenes to be like Jason Bourne. Not super flashy, but looking very effective and optimal. I know the Nolanverse Keysi system is already "real-world" stuff. But I think it lacked some flare. Just IMO.

@ssejllenrad: Yeah the Bourne series have some really great fight scenes and car chase scenes, I think Nolan took a some inspiration from the series (Shaky camera fights, car chases etc).

I don't like all this flying stuff,and backflips etc thing.In most of the videos you posted there are.

Nolan's scenes where one of the most realistic fights I have ever seen in movies,together with the Warrior and Universal Soldier.Have ever been in a fight?Even martial arts practiotioners don't go flying punching and the other tricks.

I wouldn't walk away from a realistic fight scene.

If they are able to make a Batman movie with fight scenes like the the Arkham series,it would be wicked cool!!!!.I 'd pay my whole savings to see it.

Oang Bak and the Protector sucked bad.

I love Universal Soldier Day of Reckoning. It got Andrei Arlovski going all beast mode.

@stronger: But... The Arkham fight scenes are full of high kicks and backflips and unnecessary leaps...

@deathpoolthet1000: Btw Bourne fight scenes were very similar to Nolan's fight scenes.

Not unnecessairy.He uses them when he fight a lot of people together to leap to their side with accelarated momentum,so his strike's are more powerful.

Have you checked the counter attacks?They are awesome.That's what fight scenes are.When I first checked out the game,I was stunned by the counter attacks.And the Batman vs Deathstroke fight was pretty cool as long as it lasted.

Have you watched Universal Soldier Regeneration? Arlovski had a much bigger role in that film. No Adkins though.

@stronger: Some insane love for Bourne movie fiht scene that actually are made that way so people dont notice is not that great of fight scenes, heck you want reallistic action see the Eastern Promises, it has one scenes but is reallistic as hell and great, also is evidence Viggo Mortenses is a tough guy, is actually better that Bourne.

You talk shit about high fly things, but love Arkham style who is unreallistic as hell and use move they dont even use in martial arts wire fu movies, because they would look too damn fake for those movies.

Also Bourne fight scenes are made to confuse people, they use confusing edition and shacky camera to hide they fight scenes arent that great, without those trick they would look like this, but less awesome.

Look he is using the same hammer fist hands.

They showed these things in Batman Begins, we saw Batman work in the Narrows. And we never got to truly know what happened to Narrows, it seemed like TDK was set in a different city not Gotham, the Narrows completely disappeared. Narrows was the Crime Ally of the TDKU and they never explored it.

And I'm not saying they should make the Batman movies like the Bond movies. I'm saying that they should make a continuous series like the Bond trilogy or HP trilogy so that they can also change the actors and directors without rebooting it. there should connection between this movies but we also get to see each directors take on the Batman mythos without ending the series.

@rustyroy: So, if Alderaan is not shown in the movies it means it was never there?

There is no point in explore everything in movies, just what the movies needs, its not a tv show or a comic book, where there is a point in showing this.

You know James Bond movies have no real connection between them, they have bigger that life plot holes and many thing never made sense, James Bond was the most gimmicky character in the movie universe, no one take him seriously because he goes no place for the fact the franchise was made that way, they reboot the franchise for the fact they notice it was a dead end, Skyfall is the evidence they could explore him more without all the other movies behind him, they even explore his origin and motivation.

IMO you have seen to many Hidden Dragon Crouching Tiger chinese crap.Chinese martial arts movies are total bullsh!t,IMO.

I liked Bourne fight scenes a lot,but when you come to me with Oang Bak and Protector,which is average at best,I can't take you seriously.He broke so many bones it ended up being tiring and not entertaining.Scott Adkins is good,but he uses to much energy on his moves.If he did those moves in the street,he would have lost.

If you know about martial arts and the game,Arkham Batman's counter attacks are very realistic.The moves can be found in judo,ju-jitsu and various others like Tae-Knon-Do,Karate and kickboxing.

Again when you fight with someone,you go for the takedown if you know how to win.In Arkham series that's exactly what Batman did,if you catch me.

I don't know man.That's just me.I like realism in fights and movies generally.You are free to prefer whatever you want.

@deathpoolthet1000: That's why I also mentioned HP which had connections between them, I mentioned Bond series because the Series goes on with changing actors and directors without doing a major reboot. We won't probably get a new Batman until 2017-2019 and for what? Because Nolan decided to end the series and WB won't continue with John Blake. Doesn't matter if if was there or not but I would've loved to see Batman working there for atleast one scene but that's just my opinion.

@stronger: Arkham Batman style depends on him doing jumpin kicks, super jumping DDTs and Inverted DDTs.

So i must belive you are just trolling me, since you say muay thai sucks, all chinese styles sucks, asian styles suck, but monkey jumping like nuts and DDTs are super effective.

Becuase pro wretling is the most effective way to defend yourself.

@rustyroy: Harry Potter has an ending, it ends, you are talking in ongoing forever and ever without a direction thing that Harry Potter never did.

Also, they did this with Batman, it was called Batman and Robin and Batman Forever, the fact people forget this happened amazed me.

@deathpoolthet1000: Again that's why I mentioned Bond series which has no particular end, anyways I'm saying make a series upto 7-10 movies then reboot it. A three movie series after which you can't continue is foolish thing to do with a character like Batman IMO. And yeah Batman and Robin was exceptional not to mention those movies didn't have any connection with the previous ones.

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

@stronger: Arkham Batman style depends on him doing jumpin kicks, super jumping DDTs and Inverted DDTs.

I am not familiar with the term DTT,but from what I have gathered from the Internet,it seems you are refering to the technique where he wraps his arms around the enemie's neck and fall down crushing his head.

I am a judo practioner and I have seen it been used as a street anti technique.

So i must belive you are just trolling me, since you say muay thai sucks, all chinese styles sucks, asian styles suck, but monkey jumping like nuts and DDTs are super effective.

I never said Muai Thai sucks.Not all chinese styles suck either.What I said is that most movies including chinese martial arts are below average.I don't know why you came up with that.

This DTT you are saying is pretty effective.

Becuase pro wretling is the most effective way to defend yourself.

What does pro-wrestling have to do with what we are discussing.

@stronger: Batman is using the DDT, he falls in his back and the other guy dont gets hurt, you could notice this in the game, he even does the jumping DDT, but still is his back what hits the floor, Batman is hitting himself in the game, you came with a point of view that makes no sense, that Arkham is a reallistic point of view on martial arts and fighting, you talk badly of asian movies that dont use jumping like a rabbit for being unreallistic and useless, but in real life Batman would died because he is higly ineffective, he is Spiderman without super powers, what it sucks because Spiderman style works thanks to that.

Also talked about Bourne, when his fight scenes are no reallistic at all and he is higly ineffective too.

Arkham Batman is a pro wrestler, he looks like he is fighting when in reallity is just jumping and doing highly ineffective moves.

You want a reallistic fight scene.

No jumping, no rules, no morals, no stupid missplaced sense of honor, no perfect moves, no jumping, no fearless attitude, no wires,no cgi, no jumping camera rubbish with stupid editing like Bourne horribly overrated movies

Just horrifying and brutal as it should be.

@rustyroy: Dony play the they are not related card, they are related, they have actor in commons, they talk about catwoman and there is reference to the past movies, Burton and Schumacher movies are part of the same universe, also there is no point in telling doing thing like James Bond and later take it back and say they should do reboot every once in a while, it means they will don the same thing they have being doing just with more movies.

@deathpoolthet1000: Doesn't matter if they make references to the past movies or had actors in common(and to counter this, they also had different actors), the setting, structure and tone of Schumacher movies are completely different from the Burton movies. Their interpretation of Gotham and Batman also have nothing in common. Past references can be taken as alternate timelines just like in comics. Burton and Schumacher movies are not part of the same universe. And I never took anything back, I just pointed out the things they should take note of from the Bond series and I'm not saying reboot the franchise once in a while, I'm saying the opposite, do you know how much years will it take to make 7-10 movies? Even if they release the movies every 2 years it will take 14-20 years, by then a reboot to fit the next generation would make sense.