If you could change one thing about the Batman universe

#1 Posted by chiefchin (10 posts) - - Show Bio

So a simple one, what would you change? Would it be a character's origin? An event didn't happen? Someone died when before they didn't etc. I'd like to know, everyone always has their own ideas about what should and shouldn't happen in stories, so what do you think?

#2 Posted by Alexander505 (2174 posts) - - Show Bio

Are interested in the number 0. I hope that the origins of Batman are well characterized.

#3 Edited by CrimsonCake (2682 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman would wear the yellow shield on his chest.

#4 Posted by Jakearoo (21 posts) - - Show Bio

In the New 52, I'd keep Barbara Gordon as Oracle.

In old cannon, I would keep Cassandra Cain as Batgirl. I also wouldn't have Damien be Robin...I like him and would like to keep him the universe, but he became Robin too soon.

#5 Posted by knighthood (1725 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jakearoo said:

In the New 52, I'd keep Barbara Gordon as Oracle.

In old cannon, I would keep Cassandra Cain as Batgirl. I also wouldn't have Damien be Robin...I like him and would like to keep him the universe, but he became Robin too soon.

I agree with you on Oracle and Cassandra Cain.

If I could change 1 thing I would erase Tim Drake from the Batman Universe. Personally, I feel there are too many Robins. I also would have kept Jason Todd dead.

#6 Posted by Jakearoo (21 posts) - - Show Bio

@knighthood: *gasp*!

I love Jason Todd's alter ego as Red Hood and I love Tim Drake as Robin! However, I have to admit that he has been boring as of late, just playing into the typical Robin stereotype. And his turn to Red Robin definitely isn't as dramatic as Dick's transformation into Nightwing and Jason's into RedHood.

#7 Posted by r3d_rob1n (541 posts) - - Show Bio

I would change the destruction of Bruce and Talia's relationship done by Grant Morrison.

#8 Posted by The Stegman (25488 posts) - - Show Bio

I would undo what Grant Morrison has done to Talia...and what Didio has done to Stephanie Brown.

#9 Posted by danhimself (22682 posts) - - Show Bio

if I could I undo the relaunch or if that was impossible I would have completely rebooted the Batman books along with the Green Lantern books

#10 Posted by spidermonkey2099 (615 posts) - - Show Bio

I would bring Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown out of Comic Book Limbo.

#11 Posted by JamesKM716 (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

I would forge Damian Wayne into becoming the next Azrael

#12 Posted by nickzambuto (14384 posts) - - Show Bio

I would make Alfred Batman.

#13 Posted by PurpleCandy (776 posts) - - Show Bio

I would make Batman an archeoligist

#14 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

What if they updated the live actions series from the 60's and made in our time?

#15 Posted by tuananhxu99001 (96 posts) - - Show Bio

Alfred and Gordon were more respected, i mean, they're the real heroes in many cases

And Damian becomes a anti-hero or a villain who is angry of his father

And Mr J will have some superpowers, i love the joker

#16 Posted by entropy_aegis (15472 posts) - - Show Bio

Have Babs become Oracle again,retcon Court of Owls in to being a Secret Society that was eliminated decades before Bruce was born and was brought together again recently.Retcon James Gordon Jr altogether or atleast in to not being a serial killer.Re-retcon Mr Freeze in to actually having a wife.Retcon Hush Returns out of continuity,kill off Hush and Black Mask permanently.Develop Mad Hatter in to being a more fearsome villain,keep Harley as far from the Joker as Possible.Give Ra's al Ghul a long rest,make Riddler,Scarecrow etc Robin villains.Have Bane ditch venom and go back to being a Secret Six member.And most importantly not allow the writers to use Joker just for the heck of it.

#17 Posted by Billy Batson (58266 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

And most importantly not allow the writers to use Joker just for the heck of it.

But heckling is his thing!
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#18 Posted by Maladicta (31 posts) - - Show Bio

Remove Batmans "I can do anything!" superpower. That would fix everythng wrong with Baman.

#19 Posted by entropy_aegis (15472 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

@entropy_aegis said:

And most importantly not allow the writers to use Joker just for the heck of it.

But heckling is his thing!
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Yeah but you have writers using Joker just to make their own guys look good like Loeb/Hush ,Kevin Smith/Onomatopoeia,Dini/Harley Quinn if not that you have someone giving Joker an ass whooping just to... I dunno satisfy just hidden desire to see that guy getting punished for his crimes.Rucka comes to mind but the worst offender is Judd Winick who basically does both.Other times he just makes his way in to stories just because of his A-list status as villain.Just cause he's popular does'nt mean he should be standing shoulder to shoulder with Grodd,Vandal Savage etc.

#20 Edited by britsera (204 posts) - - Show Bio

Agree with most of what Entropy said, lol. Though I like the Harley-Joker dynamic, and I think Riddler, Scarecrow, etc are fine in the Rogue Gallery.

Also: fix some of the silly codenames. Batwoman (we already have a Batgirl, and she's a much more important character...), Batwing (a nice African bird name since his home base is unique, or a French name since Congo is French-speaking...) and Red Robin (Tim's not a modified Robin) in particular.

#21 Posted by TDK_1997 (15079 posts) - - Show Bio

I really agree with what entropy said about Harley Quinn.Keep her away from the Joker!!!

#22 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

i would make batman less of a jerk. he'd still be a jerk but not as big of a jerk

#23 Posted by nickzambuto (14384 posts) - - Show Bio

Catwoman's costume would be see-through.

#24 Posted by DurararaFTW (73 posts) - - Show Bio

Keep Dick Grayson as Batman or do away with the Batman inc thing, especially if Batman has only been around for six years.

#25 Posted by The_Tree (7863 posts) - - Show Bio

Like someone else said, I'd make Barbara Oracle again, but unlike them, I'd leave Stephanie Brown as Batgirl, and Cassandra Cain would be Blackbat.

#26 Posted by InfamousFish (353 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

Have Babs become Oracle again,retcon Court of Owls in to being a Secret Society that was eliminated decades before Bruce was born and was brought together again recently.Retcon James Gordon Jr altogether or atleast in to not being a serial killer.Re-retcon Mr Freeze in to actually having a wife.Retcon Hush Returns out of continuity,kill off Hush and Black Mask permanently.Develop Mad Hatter in to being a more fearsome villain,keep Harley as far from the Joker as Possible.Give Ra's al Ghul a long rest,make Riddler,Scarecrow etc Robin villains.Have Bane ditch venom and go back to being a Secret Six member.And most importantly not allow the writers to use Joker just for the heck of it.

This.

#27 Posted by Ganthetsward20 (687 posts) - - Show Bio

Have bruce wayne die a tragic martyr. Let him be the pinnacle of human class heroics. Either to where its only ever known by the hero community that the original is dead and let Dick be batman again or have to where there is never another batman. the title of Batman is sacred. I really like the idea of the sidekicks taking over the mantle of the bigger hero. I dont like that our favorite heroes die, but their stories will always be around to share and it gets the younger heroes in and allows them to grow more and for even newer heroes to rise.

#28 Edited by Wolfrazer (7436 posts) - - Show Bio
@Maladicta said:

Remove Batmans "I can do anything!" superpower. That would fix everythng wrong with Baman.

This, he just isn't a street level character anymore.
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#29 Posted by soduh2 (868 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ganthetsward20 said:

Have bruce wayne die a tragic martyr. Let him be the pinnacle of human class heroics. Either to where its only ever known by the hero community that the original is dead and let Dick be batman again or have to where there is never another batman. the title of Batman is sacred. I really like the idea of the sidekicks taking over the mantle of the bigger hero. I dont like that our favorite heroes die, but their stories will always be around to share and it gets the younger heroes in and allows them to grow more and for even newer heroes to rise.

I agree only I'd have Bruce fake his death without revealing that he's Batman in the process. Dick takes over as Batman in the meantime. Instead of becoming Red Robin after retiring as Robin, I'd have Tim become an Oracle-esque character. Though one who is capable of fighting crime when the others need back up. His suit would be a proto-terry mcginnis type design, all black no animal motifs or symbols. As well as a Matches Malone type identity (focus on his intelligence and detective skills).

#30 Posted by Durakken (1593 posts) - - Show Bio

I would erase Flashpoint...

#31 Posted by Rumble Man (11118 posts) - - Show Bio

Have batman cover his mouth, I don't want joker spraying my hero with his venom sh!t or people punching out his teeth

#32 Posted by Rumble Man (11118 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

I would undo what Grant Morrison has done to Talia...and what Didio has done to Stephanie Brown.

don't forget beechen

#33 Posted by Squalleon (4695 posts) - - Show Bio

That Dick,Grayson would still be Batman!

All that difference that a , makes.

seriously more Dick as batman.

#34 Posted by Mercy_ (92988 posts) - - Show Bio

Babs would be Oracle.

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#35 Posted by grim213 (6 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd give batman a katana he carries around mounted on his back. Black steel of course.

#36 Posted by kasino (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

let the world get destroyed so people can stop complaining about a human saving it

#37 Posted by britsera (204 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

Have batman cover his mouth, I don't want joker spraying my hero with his venom sh!t or people punching out his teeth

But, he needs the Square Chin of Justice to intimidate the criminal scum!

#38 Posted by StarKiller809 (1239 posts) - - Show Bio

I would make Batgirl someone else as long as Babs was where she was before the reboot.  
 
Or get rid of Batman Inc. I love the series, I just really hate the concept of it. 

#39 Posted by Rumble Man (11118 posts) - - Show Bio

@britsera said:

@Rumble Man said:

Have batman cover his mouth, I don't want joker spraying my hero with his venom sh!t or people punching out his teeth

But, he needs the Square Chin of Justice to intimidate the criminal scum!

And get owned by ivy kisses or gas attacks? hell no

only batconroy has thesquare jaw

#40 Posted by britsera (204 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

@britsera said:

@Rumble Man said:

Have batman cover his mouth, I don't want joker spraying my hero with his venom sh!t or people punching out his teeth

But, he needs the Square Chin of Justice to intimidate the criminal scum!

And get owned by ivy kisses or gas attacks? hell no

only batconroy has thesquare jaw

BatConroy did does the Square Jaw best. :P

#41 Posted by Rumble Man (11118 posts) - - Show Bio

@britsera: Its sharp enough to cut people

#42 Posted by PowerHerc (85153 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd make the Modern Batwoman look and act more like the Silver Age Batwoman.

#43 Posted by Red_Jack (285 posts) - - Show Bio

Less hired goons. There are only so many times looking at panels of Batman hitting three guys at once while dodging bullets is cool. Their one dimensional "do as the boss says" unquestioning attitude doesn't make much sense really.

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