Huge BATMAN INC #8 Spoilers Officially Released

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#101 Edited by OldOldLogan (28 posts) - - Show Bio
#102 Posted by JakeN7 (12738 posts) - - Show Bio

We've known this was coming for awhile, but it doesn't make it any easier to swallow. I love ya Damian, your character development was the strongest of any character in recent memory. You won't be forgotten, and hopefully we'll see you again soon.

Requiescant in pace

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Rest in peace.

#103 Edited by cc1738 (358 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate Grant Morrison. He sucks as a writer. He's right next to Tom Defalco and Rob Liefield in terms of the mediocrity he releases. I can't stand anything he writes.

It's not just that Damian dies.

I can get over that. It's partly that it doesn't even happen in Batman and Robin. It happens in Batman Inc which I have no interest in ever reading. Like I said, I hate the writing on every level and the art is terrible too. The entire series is a fail. Thank god he's leaving DC. Now he can't ruin anything else I like to read.

#104 Posted by thespideyguy (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

Damian and Tim are the only robins I liked. Dick is okay as a nightwing, and Tim is better as red robin. But Damian was so cool, they could have put him in a video game, or a cartoon.

#105 Edited by secondfallen616 (119 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously...........F*CK YOU MORRISON!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU LAZY PIECE OF SH*T!!!!! SO GLAD YOURE DONE WITH "SUPERHERO" COMICS! NOW GO SACRIFICE GOATS OR 10YR OLD'S IN YOUR OWN CAVE IN "WHEREEVERTHEF*CKISTAN" AND DONT COME BACK! Couldnt even let us find out for ourselves, we had to read about it in the stupid NY Times????? I HATE YOU......

AND noooooooooooooooo! TO Harper Row.......stupid character and even worse pick for Robin, if they make her a Robin i'm so done with Batman overall, DOTF was so disappointing and now this???? Yeh, Valiant's looking better everyday....

#106 Edited by secondfallen616 (119 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74: yeh it baffles, because he's been phoning it in for years now. He must have pics of Didio doing unnatural things with a dog or dressed up like WW while Defalco slaps him with his "Super-stick".......this worlds going to shizzzzz.....

#107 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@secondfallen616

@evilvegeta74: yeh it baffles, because he's been phoning it in for years now. He must have pics of Didio doing unnatural things with a dog or dressed up like WW while Defalco slaps him with his "Super-stick".......this worlds going to shizzzzz.....

agreed!

#108 Edited by DMC (1551 posts) - - Show Bio

Does anyone get the feeling Snyder has something to do with this? He's the new hotness, the superstar young gun that's killing it on Batman. So DC's gonna let him do whatever he wants? That's right, "2 years ago" : P

#109 Posted by johnny_spam (2036 posts) - - Show Bio

@DMC: When Batman Inc started up during the last DC Universe Morrison did say that everyone would be crying by the end both Chris Burnham and Peter Tomasi have just said that they knew what would happen so it does not look like Snyder has anything to do with this.

#110 Posted by Jake Fury (18933 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL at the Morrison haters coming out of the wood work.

#111 Posted by cc1738 (358 posts) - - Show Bio

@secondfallen616: Well said. I feel the same way.

#112 Posted by wessaari (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Mighty Monarch said:

Yeah, the spoiler headline is such bull.

But maybe this means we could get Stephanie Brown back as Robin..... A man can dream...

that or Harper Row might be getting a promotion

#113 Posted by wessaari (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baddamdog said:

this, this and more of this

#114 Posted by havoc1201 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Killing Damian to make his series end with a shock is so cheap and its lazy writing killing a main character in comics is a over used cliche that writers use bc they have no clue how to end their run with creativity. and then he goes and tells the secret before it comes out?

#115 Posted by Joelislegend (215 posts) - - Show Bio

ugh as much as I didnt want this to happen... ugh. Love Damian just like everyone else.

If he dies he had better stay dead damnit!

#116 Posted by Icarusflies (12505 posts) - - Show Bio

@evilvegeta74 said:

@Batnandez said:

@evilvegeta74: Morrison planned to kill off Damian way earlier than this.

I've been hearing that, and I totally dislike Morrison for doing this. Does this guy have the authority at Dc to pull the trigger on any character he chooses. I mean the guy has done a little damage to put it lightly on major characters at Dc. I hope they bring Damian back swiftly,I like the character. It's a shame what comics will do for sales.

Grant Morrison CREATED Damian. If anyone has the right to kill him, it's GM. And as it was mentioned earlier, Damian was originally going to die during Batman and Son. He was living on borrowed time.

Will I miss Damian? Yes. A lot.

Do I hold any of this against Grant? Heck no. The man knows what he's doing.

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#117 Posted by crazyflashfan11 (182 posts) - - Show Bio

A: Is this normal continuity?

B: Lazarus pits.

C: Let's just hope he dosen't get punched back to life or redrawn by "God".

#118 Posted by deadpool_jr (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Damnit! I just started liking Damian and they do this!?

#119 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

Huh...how bout that O_O

#120 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20387 posts) - - Show Bio

@Icarusflies said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

@Batnandez said:

@evilvegeta74: Morrison planned to kill off Damian way earlier than this.

I've been hearing that, and I totally dislike Morrison for doing this. Does this guy have the authority at Dc to pull the trigger on any character he chooses. I mean the guy has done a little damage to put it lightly on major characters at Dc. I hope they bring Damian back swiftly,I like the character. It's a shame what comics will do for sales.

Grant Morrison CREATED Damian. If anyone has the right to kill him, it's GM. And as it was mentioned earlier, Damian was originally going to die during Batman and Son. He was living on borrowed time.

Will I miss Damian? Yes. A lot.

Do I hold any of this against Grant? Heck no. The man knows what he's doing.

I agree whole-heartedly.

#121 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@Icarusflies said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

@Batnandez said:

@evilvegeta74: Morrison planned to kill off Damian way earlier than this.

I've been hearing that, and I totally dislike Morrison for doing this. Does this guy have the authority at Dc to pull the trigger on any character he chooses. I mean the guy has done a little damage to put it lightly on major characters at Dc. I hope they bring Damian back swiftly,I like the character. It's a shame what comics will do for sales.

Grant Morrison CREATED Damian. If anyone has the right to kill him, it's GM. And as it was mentioned earlier, Damian was originally going to die during Batman and Son. He was living on borrowed time.

Will I miss Damian? Yes. A lot.

Do I hold any of this against Grant? Heck no. The man knows what he's doing.

I hope they bring him back, just started getting used to him.

#122 Posted by spinningbirdcake (1430 posts) - - Show Bio

I say this as a huge Damian fan, but I hope they do not bring him back, ever again. I want to see Bruce deal with his son dying, essentially on his watch, until they reboot the DC universe again in 20-30 years. Between his Mom and Dad, Jason, Barbara getting paralyzed, and his own son dying, if Bruce is up and properly functioning again in a couple months I will seriously reconsider reading Batman stories in the future, as I will assume any tease of him "going over the edge" will simply be a lie.

#123 Posted by sparty-dbq (817 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting that this would come out so soon after Death of the Family. What's even more interesting is that this was originally meant to come out before DotF ended. Remember, Batman, Inc. has been a month behind ever since issue 3 was delayed after the Aurora shooting.

#124 Posted by Webjaker (366 posts) - - Show Bio

If you asked me yesterday or a week ago (well before reading this BS) I would have said that despite all the critical praise and claims that the sun shines out of Grant Morrisons butt - Batman Inc is a cluttered mess of confusion. And his decision regarding Damien should not effect ANY other titles. Thats all I have to say.

#125 Posted by ultimategirlshileha1236 (110 posts) - - Show Bio

i pissed the end i dont want him to die hes freaking awesome!1

#126 Posted by Lorrie (27 posts) - - Show Bio

All this should teach anyone is that it's pointless to get invested in any DC character that was created less than 50 years ago. I honestly don't care if Morrison always planned to kill Damian, it's an incredibly cynical move. Once he became a hit with audiences, why not leave him in the sandbox for other writers? It's selfish. If DC had any sense they'd undo it as quickly as Marvel retconned Magneto being Xorn, but Didio does hate legacy characters so the death could stick. It's not even an original idea. I remember when Jason died. It will create short-term controversy at the cost of removing a genuinely entertaining character from the canvas.

And the death of another Robin (this time a 10-year-old child) destroys my ability to care about Batman. Really, Bruce literally shouldn't be able to live with himself. Even as an 11 year old, I found it hard to believe Bruce could just go on being Batman and get a new Robin after Jason was murdered. As an adult, I can't imagine him not going insane knowing the life he chose killed his 10 year old child. He should kill himself or end up locked in an institution (or go supervillain, since getting your child killed sounds like an origin story to me), but we know he won't. If Damian genuinely stays dead, he'll probably have a new Robin in a year.

#127 Posted by havoc1201 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lorrie said:

All this should teach anyone is that it's pointless to get invested in any DC character that was created less than 50 years ago. I honestly don't care if Morrison always planned to kill Damian, it's an incredibly cynical move. Once he became a hit with audiences, why not leave him in the sandbox for other writers? It's selfish. If DC had any sense they'd undo it as quickly as Marvel retconned Magneto being Xorn, but Didio does hate legacy characters so the death could stick. It's not even an original idea. I remember when Jason died. It will create short-term controversy at the cost of removing a genuinely entertaining character from the canvas.

And the death of another Robin (this time a 10-year-old child) destroys my ability to care about Batman. Really, Bruce literally shouldn't be able to live with himself. Even as an 11 year old, I found it hard to believe Bruce could just go on being Batman and get a new Robin after Jason was murdered. As an adult, I can't imagine him not going insane knowing the life he chose killed his 10 year old child. He should kill himself or end up locked in an institution (or go supervillain, since getting your child killed sounds like an origin story to me), but we know he won't. If Damian genuinely stays dead, he'll probably have a new Robin in a year.

agreed i fell like this is Morrison stroking his ego and saying F you he is my character and im killing him bc he is mine, just so his crappy comic ends with controversy and shock, so sick of cheap a$$ cliches

#128 Edited by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

This is f'kin ridiculous. They should let Jason die if they wanna kill off a Robin.

First his parents, then Jason Todd, then his BROTHER, now his little 10 year old son, who really loves him ( they have a great father-son bond ). Batman needs to become a villain after this and give the do-gooders a serious headache. The no-kill code is obsolete after this, IMHO.

I really hope the death is not permanent. This is my favorite robin and far, far better than the female robins ( LOL Harper Row) or even Dick/Jason/Tim.

Just bullshit by GM.

I'm done with Batman & Robin after Damian dies.

#129 Edited by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@Baddamdog: This female Robin sucks. Damian is the best Robin.

#130 Posted by GBrutality (193 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lorrie said:

All this should teach anyone is that it's pointless to get invested in any DC character that was created less than 50 years ago. I honestly don't care if Morrison always planned to kill Damian, it's an incredibly cynical move. Once he became a hit with audiences, why not leave him in the sandbox for other writers? It's selfish. If DC had any sense they'd undo it as quickly as Marvel retconned Magneto being Xorn, but Didio does hate legacy characters so the death could stick. It's not even an original idea. I remember when Jason died. It will create short-term controversy at the cost of removing a genuinely entertaining character from the canvas.

And the death of another Robin (this time a 10-year-old child) destroys my ability to care about Batman. Really, Bruce literally shouldn't be able to live with himself. Even as an 11 year old, I found it hard to believe Bruce could just go on being Batman and get a new Robin after Jason was murdered. As an adult, I can't imagine him not going insane knowing the life he chose killed his 10 year old child. He should kill himself or end up locked in an institution (or go supervillain, since getting your child killed sounds like an origin story to me), but we know he won't. If Damian genuinely stays dead, he'll probably have a new Robin in a year.

this. all of this. it's become pretty sad how because a certain writer created a character, they believe they have entire say over what happens to said character.

like the writer of shatterstar (i believe it was liefield, but i'm not sure) when he found out they made shatterstar gay. once a character is out there, it sort of belongs to the audience just as much. so he didn't kill damian during that arc some time ago? good. the character evolved, something that's hard to do in comics. it's been an interesting ride as well. so, kill him because it'll produce shock? yes, people are probably right, it could be a lazarus pit. but it's just pointless. if he dies, and talia lives, i call bullshit. no mother, even fictional ones, should be seen as killing their children and surviving, let along being ok with it. morrison has bee phoning it in to me since before the new 52 started so this all just seems petty and dark. i'm for the tales that seem grim a la DotF and such, but this was something where i believed good should win. this whole story got a little ridiculous and blown out of proportion, and it now comes at the cost of losing a character that left a pretty decent mark. shame.

#131 Edited by VaizD (249 posts) - - Show Bio

If Bruce adopts a new Robin anytime in the near future I will not be pleased. Not out of respect for Damian, though that too, but because it would just be unrealistic. It was stretching it enough to introduce Tim Drake after what happened to Jason. A man can only put so many minors in costumes' lives at risk before he says enough is enough.

#132 Posted by Farwind (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@johnkmccubbin91 said:

@sheldipez: Fair point. Although I don't like the idea of him dying I think it should be a while, as there are too many comic deaths that are changed soon. Look at Jason he was dead for years and that really help his character development.

This, sir, is the funniest statement I've read all day. Thank you.

Hopefully they kill him in a way that does the character justice, so that no one will want to bring him back. While I've grown fond of the character over the last six months or so, It's important to know that he was a character created with the intent of killing him off, so as long as they do it right I'll be satisfied.

#133 Posted by Stoneybe (4 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not pissed off us such. Just not that interested in reading a story where a 9 year old boy dies. Kind of feel it would have worked better to have Jason die saving Damo. Anyways. Loosing his son in this way kills the batman character in his current form. He goes from always winning to the ultimate lose. A child. This is vastly more destructive than loosing ones prevents.

#134 Posted by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

I just want batman to start killing, putting a permanent end to his villains after this event. He deserves to, after the tragedy he's gone through.

#135 Posted by johnkmccubbin91 (3486 posts) - - Show Bio

@Farwind said:

@johnkmccubbin91 said:

@sheldipez: Fair point. Although I don't like the idea of him dying I think it should be a while, as there are too many comic deaths that are changed soon. Look at Jason he was dead for years and that really help his character development.

This, sir, is the funniest statement I've read all day. Thank you.

Hopefully they kill him in a way that does the character justice, so that no one will want to bring him back. While I've grown fond of the character over the last six months or so, It's important to know that he was a character created with the intent of killing him off, so as long as they do it right I'll be satisfied.

How was the statement funny? Just wondering, as I don't really see it, unless it's due to it being an obvious point

#136 Posted by SupBatz (1778 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

I just want batman to start killing, putting a permanent end to his villains after this event. He deserves to, after the tragedy he's gone through.

That would pretty much go against every moral Bruce has been trying to instill in Damian since the two met.

#137 Posted by JamDamage (1118 posts) - - Show Bio

is this going to be in effect with the new 52? Hope so.

#138 Posted by Jawshco (244 posts) - - Show Bio

If Damian stays dead for awhile (though I hope he won't), they'll have to replace him in Batman and Robin. I would HATE to see a new Robin. I'd rather see the return of Tim Drake as Robin since he's grossly under used, or Stephanie Brown. I don't care about that new girl, and I don't want to see them shoe horn in another new character.

#139 Posted by Samimista (20822 posts) - - Show Bio

Haven't picked up this issue yet but really sad to hear since Damian's one of my favorites. Hoping he'll be back soon.

#140 Posted by havoc1201 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

I really hope this is a plan to just sell issues, didnt Morrison say a few weeks ago that it was more a death of the name Robin?

#141 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@secondfallen616 said:

Seriously...........F*CK YOU MORRISON!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU LAZY PIECE OF SH*T!!!!! SO GLAD YOURE DONE WITH "SUPERHERO" COMICS! NOW GO SACRIFICE GOATS OR 10YR OLD'S IN YOUR OWN CAVE IN "WHEREEVERTHEF*CKISTAN" AND DONT COME BACK!

Please refrain from making me urinate in my pants with laughter lest I send you a bill for dry cleaning...

@Lorrie: Your post was a fascinating read. However I would like to point out that this is not the first time Morrison has emulated other events at Batman's expense, however all we can expect now is some form of "A Lonely Place of Dying" to occur. Honestly I didn't like that story in the 80's and can't imagine how to live through it again. All I do is to read the book somewhere and never buy a single issue with Morrison's name on it until someone else takes over then I can resume. Kind of annoying to have to protest this way, but hey....

@havoc1201: Always great posts...

#142 Posted by The Average Bear (2080 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't be surprised if the Lazarus Pits make an appearance, ya feel me

#143 Posted by gotwillpower (679 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know if this was all the DC editors' idea or not, but wtf

It would have been much more dramatic if Damian died in Death of the Family. Instead, he dies in Batman Inc, which I haven't even been reading. Dog !@#$ing #$%@! it.
#144 Posted by Webjaker (366 posts) - - Show Bio

They brought back Jason and he was terrible (before) - So of course Damien will come back: Lazarus Pit, Clone, Alternate reality, Time punch Retconn ?

#145 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Webjaker said:

Time punch Retconn ?

What is this and where can I get one?

#146 Posted by johnkmccubbin91 (3486 posts) - - Show Bio

@gotwillpower said:

I don't know if this was all the DC editors' idea or not, but wtf

It would have been much more dramatic if Damian died in Death of the Family. Instead, he dies in Batman Inc, which I haven't even been reading. Dog !@#$ing #$%@! it.

But Damian was created by Morrison and has been crucial to his story, so it makes sense that he kills him of. Plus also by the sounds of things it was planned from the moment he was created.

#147 Posted by charlieboy (7165 posts) - - Show Bio

Um, I don't know why people are getting upset about a comic book death. It won't last.

#148 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

of course morrison would kill of one of my favorite characters. They better not make harper row robin

#149 Posted by atonemented (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Is there a phone number I can call to save him or

#150 Posted by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

@havoc1201 said:

I really hope this is a plan to just sell issues, didnt Morrison say a few weeks ago that it was more a death of the name Robin?

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