Into the Arkham City campaign?

He has help from Anne Hathaway's Catwoman too

Grundy. He can beat Two-Face and the Penguin.

Can't he just use his EMP rifle against Grundy's electricity?

The EMP didn't work on biological entities... or at least living entities. Not sure if it'd work on Grundy.

Grundy needed to constantly recharge himself with the electric battery-things. I imagine Bats can just shut it down with his gun.

What does he get in terms of gear? Nolan Batman can glide just as good as Arkham Batman and is arguably as good in stealth, but he lacks the right kind of grapnel gun to give him the same type of easy vertical access.

He also doesn't have the same type of gadgets that Batman wouldn't of been able to progress wthout like the remote control batarang, freeze bombs, and line launcher (which Burton Batman had, ironically). He beats any of the bosses save Grundy and Clayface. Give him Gotham Knight feats and he can clear the campaign fairly easily.

We're strictly going with his live action feats here

I don't think he can glide as well as Arkham Batman. Arkham batman actually glided into a narrow smoke stack and through a bunch of things in his way. Nolan Batman just hang glided and didn't have to go through such obstacles.

@modernww2fare: How does everything play out for him, though? Is it step for step everything Arkham Batman had to do, or is it just drop him in Arkham City and stop Protocol 10?

@SlimJ87D:

I don't think he can glide as well as Arkham Batman.

I meant, functionally, their gliding is pretty much the same. In Batman Begins, Nolan Batman could also glide large distances and perform the dive bomb maneuver to increase his velocity just like Arkham Batman.

Arkham batman actually glided into a narrow smoke stack and through a bunch of things in his way.

Arkham Batman didn't glide into a smokestack. All he did was dive bomb through it. I don't actually recall there being any obstacles, other than the smoke and having to land on the rope, which Nolan Batman could replicate, IMO.

Nolan Batman just hang glided and didn't have to go through such obstacles.

Nolan Batman was gliding through windows and taking guys out in TDK, which requires a good deal of accuracy. Also, gliding through the dark, cramped Narrows in Batman Begins.

That one, as well as getting the cure

@modernww2fare: I don't think he needed to constantly recharge himself, it just healed him IIRC, and they were gameplay mechanics. He could shut down those chargers and eventually Grundy would 'die', but Batman wouldn't last long enough for that to save him. Arkham Batman is leagues above him, Arkham Batman is basically comic Batman. Does he have to fight Grundy? Can he not just grapple out of there?

I think Lucius could whip up a cure, he created an antidote for an unknown fatal hallucinogen in a very short space of time, with Freeze's data, he could do it.

Hmmm. In the words of Bruce Wayne in TDK "We don't wanna make things too easy, now do we?"

@modernww2fare: Ahh.. in that case he doesn't necessarily need to face all of the bosses and what not. Stopping Protocol 10 would be tricky, though. Wonder Tower is going to be the first thing he notices so he'd likely interrogate some of the thugs and operate about for information on it. He could use the Bat (if it's allowed) to fly up there and infiltrate it as well. The problem is that he doesn't have the cryptographic sequencer to unlock doors, and Strange wouldn't just open it for him. Maybe one of his explosive pellets could do the trick.

The cure I think Lucius could handle with a blood sample to analyze which is what he did in Begins for the hallucinogen, and Catwoman could leave and get it to him. So I conclude with some improvisation and luck, he can clear the campaign with high difficulty. If he has to go through it like Arkham Batman he wouldn't make it far.

Let's say he has to fight EVERY boss, would he still clear it?

@modernww2fare: Probably not. He beats Two Face, Ra's, Penguin, Joker, and any of the mini-bosses. He can also beat Freeze as well IMO simply because he was so slow and I think his explosive pellets could take him down.

He loses to Clayface and Grundy. Although, he could beat them if he got lucky. Clayface can be knocked in the lava vault, and Grundy at best he could incapacitate long enough to escape from him.

I don't know about Ra's. Arkham Ra's was much tougher and more like his comicbook counterpart

@modernww2fare: Yeah, just in a straight up fight he'd definitely lose to Ra's, but if he used his gadgets he may have a chance. Arkham Ra's didn't have any reaction feats IIRC. A sleep dart or two should put him down, and Nolan Batman was incredibly accurate with those and was able to use them in pitch black.

I wonder why he didn't just use those darts against Bane in both fights lol

With all his live action gadgets and feats I say he makes it to Ra's. He could just EMP Grundy's lightning.

Exactly.

Cool thread, I'd say he stops at Mr. Freeze, maybe Ra's.

@modernww2fare: Ya. The Arkham games were inspired by Nolan and the Animated Series, so Bale should be all good during the stealth and fighting portions. If he's connected to Alfred or Lucious he could handle the detective parts. If he makes it past Ra's somehow he should be fine with the rest of the game up to Clayfce, he could stealth take down Freeze and get the ice pellets then he should be fine with Face.

@ultrastarkiller: Alfred and Lucius would be like his Oracle lol but what about Hathaway's Catwoman? Can she beat her campaign too?

@modernww2fare: He can get gadgets that unlock during the story right? Like the RC gadget (which is just his EMP gadget honestly) or Freeze Pellets.

@modernww2fare: Ya all she's doing is beating up fodder lol Two-Face is the only issue but she can easily handle that.

Stops at Ra´s or at Mr Freeze.

@black_arrow: You don't think je can stealth attack Freeze like in the game?

If he's lucky enough to get past Grundy he should stop ra's. How's bruces stealth feats again?

@comicace3: Very good, some of his stealth moves in the game are taken directly from the movies.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/batman-286/nolan-batman-respect-thread-1632841/

I have a question though, if Nolan Lucius can indeed create a cure for Batman then he shouldn't have to put up with Penguin, Freeze and Ra's.

I don't see how Grundy will stop him if he can just use his EMP device/rifle to shut down the electric chargers as soon as they power up.

@modernww2fare: Possibly, but remember they needed Ra's blood sample because it had the Lazerous' regenerative properties in it, because Freezes normal cure wouldn't remain stable long enough with out it. So he could avoid Grundy and Penguin but he would still need Ra's. If he rebuilt the sonar device they could use the Tiger Guard's phones to find him... theoretically. lol

Oh of course he's getting the sonar device/detective vision! After all Lucius will be like his Oracle again

@comicace3: Arguably better than Arkham Batman's. His best stealth showings are in Begins. I'd cite the scene in the Narrows where Nolan Batman is blitzing and dragging guys into the dark before they can even get a bead on him, and that's after Scarecrow alerted them of his presence.

That was also without using something like detective mode, which Nolan Batman sort of has anyway with Sonar. He would be able to handle the stealth encouters pretty easily.

@modernww2fare: True. With that though he can map out the whole city which would make literally everything easier. Lol

@ultrastarkiller: In regards to Freeze, can't Bats use his EMP device against Freeze's suit and gun too?

@modernww2fare: Ya, Arkham Batman did that too but it would only work once. But Nolan Batman has enough stealth/gadgets to attack freeze enough times then take him down.

Arkham City opened with Bruce Wayne handcuffed and fighting a small army of thugs. Baleman wouldn't even get past that.

@nickzambuto: He took down multiple inmates in a prison before he met Ra's in Batman Begins

@nickzambuto: Those Tyger guards just strapped him into a chair then he took ONE out (And got the gotham municiple codes) before he got dragged out and kidnapped by Penguin. Bale could easily so that...

Edit oh I see what you're saying, Bale could easily fight off Penguins thugs handcuffed h2h challenges won't be a problem for him.

That's not at all comparable to what Bruce Wayne did in the beginning of Arkham City. Bale wasn't handcuffed for one thing, and even though he wasn't trained at the time, he still only faced 4-6 guys IIRC. In AC Bruce fought dozens.

You need to replay Arkham City, Bruce Wayne fought dozens of thugs in a business suit while handcuffed. The most opponents Bale has ever faced at once was about 13 IIRC in that scene in Begins, and he was fully decked out in his armor and also not handcuffed. The idea of Arkham Batman and Nolan Batman being comparable martial artists is just... ludicrous.

I don't think that he has the strenght to shatter the glass.

@black_arrow: True. Although he could use stealth to shoot a sticky bomb onto Freeze's helmet. Then proceed to punch him out.

@nickzambuto: I beat the game

dozens of times (I have all the achievements ;)) I was just confused on the part you meant. After you get dragged out of the torture room, you get escorted through the prison then you fight like three guys who hop the fence and jump Jack Ryder, after the gate opens. Then you get kidnapped by Penguin. Then you fight his thugs. It wasn't dozens it was more like 6 or 8 at the most, and you really only fight two before he breaks the cuffs (Which any Batman (Maybe not Earth 1) can easily do). The two Batmen are not comparable in MA but all Arkham Batman did was fight fodder up until Ra's Ninja show up after you find Freeze. Bale's armor helps him but hes not crippled without it.