How About Stephen Colbert As...The Riddler?
It's mentioned how Heath Ledger nailed it as the Joker. When that was first announced, a lot of people thought Warner Bros. was crazy. We all know that having the right actor playing the villain is what could make or break a Batman movie. Sure we need a good Batman but having an over the top performance is what will be memorable.
The Riddler could be the right villain to take the spotlight in the next movie (if it ever gets underway). He is a complex character that I don't think everyone appreciates. He's not simply a goofy dude dressed in green that asks riddles. He is an intelligent individual, despite leaving clues to his crimes for Batman to follow. That's his point. Anyone can just try to rob a bank or commit whatever crime. The Riddler is putting out a challenge each time he embarks on another venture. If written correctly, he could really give Batman a run for his money.
If you think about Stephen Colbert, he too is an intelligent and calculating individual. If you're familiar with his antics, you know he likes to do some zany things and tries to get the better of people. Who better to play someone like the Riddler? Stephen Colbert is an intelligent guy and his style of comedy would be perfect for the Riddler.
The article mentions that perhaps Warner Bros. would be more interested in someone like Johnny Depp for the Riddler. Depp is a great actor but I think he's already done too many iconic roles. I think it'd be distracting trying to see him play the Riddler when we might be thinking about Captain Jack Sparrow or even Edward Scissorhands. I think Colbert is at the right level where he just could be the right guy for the role. That is if the next Batman movie gets made and they even consider having Riddler as the villain.
What are your thoughts? Do you think Stephen Colbert could play the Riddler? Do you think there's someone else that could do the role better? Are you a fan of Colbert's? Do you think he has what it takes to play a comic book character?
Stephan Colbert is already the Riddler in real life. Just yesterday he was holding Gotham city hostage and was leaving an ornate trail of clues involving two dead boys and a handful of pins. I don't know what the clues led to, but obviously Batman figured it out because Gotham was saved and Stephan was put behind bars. Why would they want the real Riddler to play himself in a movie?
Not to say no one else will be able to nail the role, but I am personally convinced at this moment that the best choice is Johnny Depp.
You say that having Depp cast could distract us from believing him as Riddler because he has done so many other iconic characters. But that's where his talent reigns over it all. When you watched him in Pirates of the Carribean, did you think of Edward Scissorhands? When you watch him in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, do you think of Donnie Brasco? The answer is no. Because he has that amazing talent to make you forget everything else he's done and make you believe in his character in this particular film.
I think if anyone can follow Heath Ledger's legendary portrayal of Joker as the main villain, it would be Johnny Depp as Riddler.
I'm a fan of Steve Colbert. And I definitely wouldn't discount him as right for the role. After all, like you mentioned G-Man, when Heath Ledger was mentioned, it wasn't that well received. But now we we can almost all agree that no one else would have been right for the role. But, as we stand right now, I don't see Colbert being a better choice than Depp.
Other than Johnny Depp, the ONLY other actor I can picture playing Riddler is Robin Williams. I say this because the man is a genius, really. He is able to be funny and dramatic and psychotic when the need be. The man has shown such a wide range of talent in so many of his films. This is where Johnny Depp and he are alike. They can do all sorts of acting, no matter the character. But what holds me from picking Williams over Depp is the age. Unless they would write Riddler to be older, then Williams would fit the role for me. But if they want Riddler to be recurring (if they choose to continue on the franchise) than a younger Riddler would be a better choice. And that's where I would prefer Johnny Depp.
IDK, now that I think about it Colbert could easily be the Riddler. He has the Riddler's goofy facade while being a very smart and sophisticated person. While Depp would bring out the Creepiness in the Riddler like Ledger did with the Joker. While it worked for the Joker IDK if it would work for the RIddler. Maybe if he is able to bring together his Willy Wonka and Secret Window character then it might work. If Depp gets the role I'll be happy but right now I'm leaning toward Colbert, he's the closest thing to the Riddler in real life.
No to Riddler. No to recasting Joker. The next movie needs a character people aren't familar with so they can be a presence rather than will they top Ledger as Joker. A good villain for the next movie could be Hugo Strange, Hush, Black Mask or even the first Batman villain the Vampire Werewolf hybrid The Monk.
" No to Riddler. No to recasting Joker. The next movie needs a character people aren't familar with so they can be a presence rather than will they top Ledger as Joker. A good villain for the next movie could be Hugo Strange, Hush, Black Mask or even the first Batman villain the Vampire Werewolf hybrid The Monk. "Hush would fit pretty well.
The only Riddler I can see working is a guy who doesn't have a costume, a unibomber style passive personality that destroys lives at a distance. And Steve is a cornball, he works in 1970s Batman or nipple suit Batman.
In an one word, people, no. Colbert is great a satire but he is not an actor.
If Robert Downey wasn't already Tony Stark I think he would have been the best cast. He has the right level of acting skills, comedic timing and dark menace. Johnny Deep is the best of those mentioned and I don't think his prior film roles are an issue at all. One because Deep is real chameleon when he comes to his roles and his iconic roles came late in his career so they don't type cast him.
Colbert is too old, and would definitely turn this role down anyway. He has a contract for a show on Comedy Central that runs 4 nights out of the week. I very much doubt he would leave the show to film a movie, even if he were able to. Aside from that, no casting director would cast an out-of-shape 45-year-old non-actor opposite Christian Bale. It makes no sense. Then there's the fact that Colbert makes no secret of the fact that he is a huge Marvel fan. I just don't see this happening/working in any capacity.
I think Colbert would make a great riddler, but part of the appeal of the Nolanverse Batman is that its all very subdued. Casting Colbert would be like casting a 900lb gorilla. Everyone would be looking at the screen thinking to themselves "that's Colbert". Nolan, I suspect, would rather have the audience looking at the screen and thinking "that's Riddler".
The Riddler is a character that I’m very fond of and given quite a bit of thought to. He’s most often associated with the Frank Gorshin portrayal from the Adam West Batman series, which was really nothing but a two-bit Joker with nothing but a different gimmick. What I oftentimes find is that those who really dislike the Riddler are usually only familiar with this poor man’s Joker depiction, being oblivious to him really been innovated into his own shoes for quite some time now. He’s arguably never even come close to reaching his true potential on film. Don’t even get me started on Jim Carrey…UGH!
He’s become a very cold, calculating, and eerily calm criminal, arguably especially thanks to the Batman the Animated Series incarnation. The almost goofily manic Joker-inspired side has been eliminated entirely. His relationship represents a very profound dichotomy with his archrival, something that many of the Batman rogues share. The Joker represents the chaos to Batman’s order. Both Batman and Scarecrow utilize fear as a tool for their goals, one for the dark, one the light. Two-face is the literal embodiment of the dichotomy itself. Catwoman shows what Bruce could have, Batman shows what he is. The Riddler is no different. Batman, the so-called World’s Greatest Detective, always thrives for the answers, Riddler provides the questions. All his best foes play off of some defining aspect of the Dark Knight.
The fascinating thing about the Riddler is his psychology, this uncontrollable obsessive-compulsive disorder that completely dictates every action he makes as a criminal. He’s stuck in a rut and the most interesting part is that he eventually becomes outright aware of it being his defining flaw. He knows that the very thing at which he excels (riddles) is ultimately what leads Batman into defeating him every time. Low the irony! Yet his anal-retentiveness leaves him physically incapable of not leaving a clue behind, even though it’ll be to blame for his eventual and inevitable failure. Thus would he succeed if he excludes his queries from his crimes? There’s the real riddle…
Johnny Depp is an amazing actor, I cannot deny that, but he’s not an Edward Nigma. The character’s just not a pretty boy. True the same was said for Ledger, whom I don’t bandwagon subscribe to as being the best thing to happen to the Joker anyway, but physically Jokers way more malleable. I don’t want some visually edgy “punk rock” Riddler. The personality matches far more with a conservative look, much like his contemporary green business suit and subtle but crucial question mark insignias. My personal choice is David Hyde Pierce. He’s got sophistication to him that I feel is necessary for the role, plus just listen to his voice. I find it ideal.
I’d want his shtick to be edgier though. A bit like the Saw films, but with very cryptic riddles involved. I wouldn’t necessarily make him a serial killer in the vein of Joker, he’s not all that hands-on, but I would make him homicidal. In fact, I’ve been playing a puzzle game that I’d like his riddles to feel similar too. I freaking challenge you to play this all alone at four in the morning with the lights off: http://www.grngecko.com/torment.html
I read this on the Huffington Post written by a blogger by 2morrowknight, and I lit up light a lightbulb! I think Stephen would be awesome, and as I commented on HP, I think he would bring a certain amount of comedic sophistication. I've seen him in several dramatic roles and he's got the right stuff, but until it was mentioned, I never even considered him, because Depp has always been the front runner as far as the public was concerned. I say give Colbert a shot. Warner's Bros. need to let him read for the part. I'd get behind something like that, quick! Colbert! Colbert!
Honestly, I don't want the Riddler. You need someone that can top the Joker or at least attempt to top the Joker. So I say use Two-Face & Black Mask simple as that.
As for Colbert being the Riddler - He wouldn't be bad for the part. Like say if it was to cast him as Riddler for a new live Batman show or for Tim Burton's Batman universe. I'm down for that, but I don't see him as Riddler in Nolan's gritty realistic Batman universe.
I thought the 2nd Batman was almost a flop ! Joker blew there was no humor ,no similarity at all to who the Joker really is . And I'm tired of the copy the other Batman villains from the other movie's ! I would like to see a Batman movie with Clay face as the villain ! The 1st Batman movie was great with Scare Crow and R.A. Also I think the 2nd movie would have made more since had commissioner Gordon's wife and son were killed by Two Face !!
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