Does Batman Always Win? Batman vs. Gambit

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Posted by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

Welcome to the latest edition of "Does Batman Always Win?" The objective of this monthly feature is to examine how Batman would fare against characters not from his universe. Since Batman is a beast with prep time, these will be random encounters, and honestly, I think that makes it far more interesting. This month, I'm placing The Dark Knight against Remy LeBeau aka Gambit!

To make sure the segment is neutral, the matches will always be a random encounter (this means neither has knowledge on the other or prep time) and in a generic, unpopulated city setting at night (NOT Gotham). They'll start roughly 50 feet apart, have their standard gear and they will be in character. Naturally, they have the objective to defeat the other character. Just like over in the Battles Forums, the winner will be declared based on who I think will take the most victories in this scenario if it played out 10 times with these settings. Additionally, it's worth noting that this segment is treating all Pre-New 52 Batman feats as canon (New Earth, of course).

Will the mutant's explosive ability take down the Caped Crusader... or will Batman's skill overcome? Read on to find out what I think!

Fighting Skill

Remy's very talented when it comes to stick fighting and savate. His abilities with a bo-staff and assorted kicks have helped him hold his own against the likes of Daredevil and Blade. He's definitely not one to underestimate in this regard and his agility compliments his abilities well, but let's be real here, Batman has him hugely outclassed. If this was purely a hand-to-hand / melee weapons contest, Batman probably would walk away with nothing more than a bruise or two at most here. Gambit could offer a bit of difficulty with his agility, reflexes and reach via his staff, but it's nothing The Dark Knight couldn't handle and eliminate.

Equipment / Powers

This one's tough to call. Batman obviously has variety on his side here -- there's absolutely no disputing that. He has everything from a standard batarang to cryo pellets on him. Gambit only has cards and a bo-staff, but a lack of options is by no means a bad thing for him in the case. His cards might be his primary option, but they're still highly effective, so a lack of variety doesn't matter. Using his powers, he can make his projectiles weak enough to stun a human or strong enough to collapse a small building. Batman won't be easy to tag by any measure, but the sheer volley of explosions will make this difficult for him. Add in the fact that Gambit can technically charge anything in the environment and his power is a huge factor.

On the flip side, Batman's variety of gear will hugely benefit him. Smoke will hinder Gambit's accuracy, a grapling line could yank on his ankle, gas could daze him, so on and so on. Batarangs won't prove effective at all since Gambit can deflect numerous bullets, but they could still keep him busy for a moment or two, granting Batman a slight opportunity to follow up with something more effective -- especially after seeing how impressive his opponent's reflexes are.

It's plausible Gambit can unleash a volley of cards powerful enough to tag Batman and destroy any potential cover (like vs. Ares, for example) and his regular use of cards certainly won't make things easy for Bruce. That said, it's every bit as likely that Batman could use one of his many tools to help take down Remy. I'll have to say this one's a draw.

Mentality

Batman clearly has Gambit rocked when it comes to raw intellect, but this portion also factors in what their mindset is in combat. Gambit's okay with crossing the line and unleashing if he needs to, and while Batman isn't, that definitely doesn't make him any less dangerous. Both combatants are masters of stealth and prone to using that option, but Batman's stealth feats simply have the X-Man beat in that regard.

On top of that, the DC hero also has better detection capabilities (see image on left). Yes, LeBeau can also use his power to set up a variety of traps and dirtier tactics, but at the end of the day, he has nothing at all to really place him on Wayne's level of intelligence or tactical know-how. Gambit is no fool when it comes to tactics in combat and his powers will aid him in making potential traps, but at the end of the day, Batman is flat-out smarter and sporting a superior tactical mindset.

Physicals

Batman's peak human and has better strength, endurance and pain tolerance feats than Gambit. That's going to be key for him here. He has the agility and speed needed to make him a difficult target for those cards and he has the pain tolerance to stay conscious if one does end up right under his feet. He also has better strength feats than Remy and since his superior skill means he's likely to land more hits, you can bet those strikes will take a toll on the Cajun.

He's impressive when it comes to agility and reflexes (has danced around Nightwing's attacks), but that's an area where Gambit takes the edge. The man has blocked numerous bullets with his bo-staff and even caught a projectile from a firearm. It's safe to say he's superhuman in that regard.

While Gambit has superior mobility and reaction capabilities, Batman is more impressive when it comes to everything else relating to their physicals. Because I view their different advantages as equally important, I'll call this one a draw.

My Verdict

Gambit without question has the speed, agility and explosive power to give Batman a tough time. It won't be easy for Batman to get close, but I do believe he has the equipment, physical means and skill to do so. Once that distance is closed, it's just a matter of time before Batman's superior skill (and variety of tech) makes the difference. Remy puts up a good fight, but I'd say Batman takes this one 7/10 via knockout.

Alright, so I think Batman takes the victory. But what do other Comic Vine staff writers think about this battle?

This battle is killing the fanboy inside of me! I love Gambit, but I also love Batman. How am I supposed to stay rational?! For me, this is no contest. Batman can beat Gambit. "But Gambit has super-powers and is a master thief!" Yep, he sure is. Batman is a ninja and is a master strategist. He's dealt with thieves before. He's dealt with super powers before. If this were a "what super-hero does Mat, in 1993, want to be" contest, Gambit would win every time, but it's not. Batman takes this. It's pretty obvious.

-Mat 'Inferiorego' Elfring

I have to go with Batman on this. Gambit has some skillz but even with the New 52 five year timeline, Batman has the experience and training to take on someone like Gambit. Batman has faced hordes of super-powered foes. I believe the main edge is Batman would take the fight much more seriously. Gambit would try smooth talking Batman or just try talking in general. Batman can be a man of few words...and few punches. Because that's all it would take, a few punches in just the right spot, to take down Gambit.

Batman just has to make sure Gambit doesn't charge up his gauntlets or utility belt during the fight. Chances are Gambit wouldn't get the chance to do so.

-Tony 'G-Man' Guerrero

Want more Batman battles?

Well, there you have it. We all agree: we love Gambit, but we think Batman has what it takes to win. What do you think? Speak your mind below!

Gregg Katzman is a freelance writer for Comic Vine and IGN Entertainment. This is the part where he shamelessly plugs his Twitter page in hopes of getting a new follower or two.

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#1 Posted by The Stegman (23745 posts) - - Show Bio

MON DIEU! Remy is screwed. 

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#2 Posted by Cavemold (1678 posts) - - Show Bio

gambit??? lol....

#3 Posted by ptigrusmagus (486 posts) - - Show Bio

Bats would trash this fool.

#4 Posted by conradoaccorsi (297 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman would win in a few minutes.

#5 Posted by Mucklefluga (2542 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman easy on this one

#6 Posted by Smurfboy (480 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Batman and Gambit (I'm reading his currently 5th series!). The Battle. I have to go with Batman because: He takes battle very serious. Gambit, on other hand, probably too busy to fight while making several jokes here and there (He does that a lot in comics).

#7 Posted by MrShway88 (655 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with the verdict and I expected this from reading the title. I think Daredevil would be a better opponent for Batman

#8 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20116 posts) - - Show Bio

This one was kind of obvious, but I still enjoyed the great read.

#9 Posted by Cavemold (1678 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman vs Deathstroke

#10 Posted by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cavemold said:

Batman vs Deathstroke

I'm only using non-DC characters.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

This one was kind of obvious, but I still enjoyed the great read.

Thank you.

@MrShway88 said:

I agree with the verdict and I expected this from reading the title. I think Daredevil would be a better opponent for Batman

That's certainly a potential character for the next installment ;)

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#11 Posted by DMXN (93 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman and Gambit? seriously ? Does Batman even stand a chance? Just kidding Batman will easily beat Gambit

#12 Posted by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

Poor Gambit never stood a chance why not do one like Batman vs Atrocitus...now that would be interesting.

#13 Posted by TheCommissar (143 posts) - - Show Bio

According to his obsessive fanbase, yes.

#14 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (2853 posts) - - Show Bio

this was a great read and I agree Bats would lay Gambit the eff out

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#15 Posted by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueLantern1995 said:

Poor Gambit never stood a chance why not do one like Batman vs Atrocitus...now that would be interesting.

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#16 Posted by G_Money_Christmas (882 posts) - - Show Bio

2 of my favorite characters, but Batman would win. Why do you keep choosing favorite characters of mine? It's hard to decide sometimes but Batman has this one. Where is Batman vs. Daredevil?

#17 Posted by Mezmero (916 posts) - - Show Bio

Get Catwoman to distract Remy and it's over. Gives a whole new meaning to winner by "knockout."

#18 Edited by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

@G_Money_Christmas said:

2 of my favorite characters, but Batman would win. Why do you keep choosing favorite characters of mine? It's hard to decide sometimes but Batman has this one. Where is Batman vs. Daredevil?

I can only do one per month, man! I promise Daredevil will show up sooner or later ;)

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#19 Posted by StMichalofWilson (3736 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe Batman would win. Heck, even Nightwing can beat Gambit.

#20 Edited by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

@StMichalofWilson said:

I believe Batman would win. Heck, even Nightwing can beat Gambit.

Can, yes. Take a clear majority? That's highly debatable.

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#21 Posted by mewmdude77 (993 posts) - - Show Bio

come on, put Bats up against someone more of a challenge. Spidey, Daredevil, Human Torch, Night crawler, Deadpool, or Moon Knight!

#22 Edited by GreenFuse (295 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess Batman wins. I just imagine, if I had Gambit's powers and skill, there would be chunks of Batman lying around afterwards. Seriously...Gambit can make nearly anything into a bomb. If Batman got near me, I would turn his fancy batsuit into a bomb. Bombs are serious bid'ness. Can't his cards get to like grenade strength bombage? People don't shrug off grenade hits. You lose appendages and/or giant holes appear in your body.

Bombs.

#23 Edited by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

@mewmdude77 said:

come on, put Bats up against someone more of a challenge. Spidey, Daredevil, Human Torch, Night crawler, Deadpool, or Moon Knight!

I disagree with Moon Knight or Nightcrawler being "more" of a challenge (keep in mind, Nightcrawler would be in character). Gambit's tossing explosives, has agility to keep pace with Daredevil and reflexes fast enough to block entire volleys of bullets. Just because I think Batman wins doesn't mean it's an easy victory.

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#24 Posted by SynCig (410 posts) - - Show Bio

This one is definitely the most obvious of these articles so far. Fun read though. I loved Gambit when I was a little kid watching the 90s X-Men series but now I am kinda "meh" about him.

#25 Posted by StMichalofWilson (3736 posts) - - Show Bio

Why debate about it? There's a video that(kinda)proves my point. Something called Super Power Beat Down. I mean Nightwing was trained by Batman. So if Nightwing could beat him, so can bats. But hey that's my theory.

#26 Posted by JamDamage (1114 posts) - - Show Bio

You would have to something about fighting to understand this one. Well, you'd have to know something about fighting to understand all the Batman Vs. ? 1st off, Batman does not get to have a game plan. Remy still has super level speed. I'm not talking about running, I'm talking about his reflexes, and punch speed. His precision is silly too, and he knows how to fight. If he gets off first (throws the first punces) Batman will lose, but Gambit has to keep throwing and knock Batman out, because if he doesn't, Batman will realize just how fast Gambit is and pull something out of his belt, and that can be a number of things, and drog the Cajun. If Gambit uses a card, then he better knock him out right away also, because once Batman sees how Remy uses his cards, and doesn't get knocked out, same thing. Another tool from the belt. Remy likes to talk shit too. The longer Remy takes, the better Bats chances are. Still just to smart. Batman has to be effect with his weapons tho. If he doesn't hit Remy with a belt tool, Remy still can dance around Batman. Remy isn't like Floyd Mayweather fast either. His speed is (super) fast. He can light an apponent up with a number of combos, and his stamina is silly also. I don't care who you are. When you're getting hit from a number of angles, at the rate Gambit can throw them, at the speed he can throw them, only someone with super durability can deal with that. In both their cases tho. Batman or Gambit needs to win this fight right away. They need to jump on the other and not let up because a hestation by either one can be a loss. Now if it comes down to a 2nd fight? Batman wins all day. He gets the prep time for a "game plan".

#27 Edited by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

@SynCig said:

This one is definitely the most obvious of these articles so far. Fun read though. I loved Gambit when I was a little kid watching the 90s X-Men series but now I am kinda "meh" about him.

Thanks!

@StMichalofWilson said:

Why debate about it? There's a video that(kinda)proves my point. Something called Super Power Beat Down. I mean Nightwing was trained by Batman. So if Nightwing could beat him, so can bats. But hey that's my theory.

I enjoy their videos (they also made Wolverine vs. Batman). That said, I obviously think the outcome is more debatable and I'd be more than happy to continue this conversation over in the Gambit vs. Nightwing thread in the forums (I don't want a tangent to take up space here ;) ). Personally, I think either has the chance to take a majority there. Nightwing's skilled, but his skill advantage isn't as great as it is in this case and, unlike Batman, he's been less prone to using his gear.

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#28 Posted by jorgeareizaga (298 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman will kick very hard Gambit´s crotch!!!!

#29 Posted by G_Money_Christmas (882 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@G_Money_Christmas said:

2 of my favorite characters, but Batman would win. Why do you keep choosing favorite characters of mine? It's hard to decide sometimes but Batman has this one. Where is Batman vs. Daredevil?

I can only do one per month, man! I promise Daredevil will show up sooner or later ;)

I know you can and I don't really want to see him lose but I know Batman will win.

#30 Posted by HushoftheWind (868 posts) - - Show Bio

If Captain America can survive an explosion point blank from Gambit(PIS), then Bats suit will do fine. To Batman its like fighting Catwoman but with no feminine wilds holding him back.

#31 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14594 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice article, now do Batman vs Daredevil goddamn it!

#32 Posted by Lvenger (19047 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: Another exquisite street level analysis Gregg and I definitely agree that Batman has Gambit hugely outclassed in fighting skills, mentality and physical stats so a 7/10 win is something I agree with. However there is one way Gambit could win. Despite the stupid fight between Gambit and Captain America saying otherwise, Gambit has plenty of feats showing he can use his power on organic things. If he got close enough he could charge Batman's armour or skin if he's going for a killing blow. Having said that, this is the only conceivable way Gambit could win. Otherwise it's all Batman.

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#33 Edited by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective said:

Nice article, now do Batman vs Daredevil goddamn it!

Hah! In due time!

@Lvenger said:

@k4tzm4n: Another exquisite street level analysis Gregg and I definitely agree that Batman has Gambit hugely outclassed in fighting skills, mentality and physical stats so a 7/10 win is something I agree with. However there is one way Gambit could win. Despite the stupid fight between Gambit and Captain America saying otherwise, Gambit has plenty of feats showing he can use his power on organic things. If he got close enough he could charge Batman's armour or skin if he's going for a killing blow. Having said that, this is the only conceivable way Gambit could win. Otherwise it's all Batman.

Thank you very much!

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#34 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4523 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be interesting if Gambit charged Batman's belt without him noticing in close combat.

#35 Posted by natewhite192 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

good segment! not long ago i watch a video that was gambit vs nightwing it was pretty good i suggest you watch it.

#36 Posted by slade_wilson (447 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cavemold: The only man that Batman has never defeated one-on-one.

Katzman's idea of keeping it non-DC is best, though...

#37 Posted by Cavemold (1678 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman vs X0-Manowar

#38 Posted by LifePool (135 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting match up and a good read, but its pretty one sided.

Batman.

#39 Posted by Chaos Burn (1781 posts) - - Show Bio

loving these articles, so refreshing from the battle forums Bat-fanboys

#40 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6553 posts) - - Show Bio

Nobody stands a chance against batman.

#41 Edited by judasnixon (6396 posts) - - Show Bio

I got to support my home team......   Oh Hey Batman! Beating Gambit up won't bring back your dumb dead son! Ha! Suck it Batman....... What to Soon?

#42 Posted by deadpool25mm (587 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman would just need to blink and the fight is over..

#43 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

Came in thinking Gambit wins, article convinced me otherwise. Well played as usual.

#44 Posted by k4tzm4n (38614 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decoy Elite said:

Came in thinking Gambit wins, article convinced me otherwise. Well played as usual.

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#45 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

such a weird match up pair....but fair enough.....

#47 Posted by Perfect 10 (1006 posts) - - Show Bio

gambit all the way. all he has to do is do his suicide bomb attack, charge batman's suit up and its over. or he could beat him the same way catwoman would, using a little charm to distract him and bame its over

#48 Posted by Bobsjonjon (225 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol@ that's high praise..... Batman dominates!

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#49 Posted by Mister_Sensational (184 posts) - - Show Bio

Good job Gregg, you finally gave these Bat fanboys' idol a victory so they'd stop trashing you here in the comments section. Although quite frankly I've agreed with every outcome you've come up with thus far in these battles including this one.

Keep 'em coming!

#50 Posted by Grey56 (743 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: Most triathletes good with projectiles (rocks, staplers or other office supplies) could take Gambit. I would even take most BJJ black belts over him. Seriously.

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