Bruce Wayne, who witnessed the murder of his billionaire parents as a child, swore to avenge their deaths. He trained extensively to achieve mental and physical perfection, mastering martial arts, detective skills, and criminal psychology. Costumed as a bat to prey on the fears of criminals, and utilizing a high-tech arsenal, he became the legendary Batman.
Bruce is a million dollar playboy while Batman is a knight of justice and very strict. Perhaps when he puts his suit his second personality pops in. I mean Bruce smiles and cracks jokes but when he is Batman he is like -.- all the time even with his super hero friends. If Bruce can take Wonder woman to a dance why can't he do it while wearing the Batman suit? Is the Batman suit a psycological button on and off from Bruce to Batman?
Makes sense. People do this in real life, whether it's for their jobs (and statuses) or when they're around different groups of people. I boil it all down to professionalism for what he does. I have an assistant manager friend who likes to mix his business life with his personal life, which makes him a weaker, insubstantial person in both areas.
I think he does it on purpose. I agree with @The Dark Huntress: that Batman is his real personality (untrusting, cold, etc) and that he puts on a face for his public identity. Although I've never really understood the dynamic that he has with his wards (the Robins.) Is he ever really fatherly toward them?
Batman/Bruce Wayne (his "True" Self) and The Public Image of Bruce Wayne (his "False" or, more accurately, "Artificial" Self).
And it's important to note that Batman and Bruce Wayne are the same person (and that he isn't just Batman or just Bruce Wayne), because the cohesion that exists between those two personas is one of the aspects that makes him different from the villains he faces. While Batman's villains typically have some conflict between their identities and their super villain personas (Joker being the extreme of this, as he adopts new identities and personas, and Two-Face representing the center, in that his identity and persona are split directly in half) Batman has achieved a level of perfect cohesion between the morals and humanity of his Bruce Wayne persona and the power and drive of his Batman persona to form the Batman/Bruce Wayne ego.
If you could isolate or distill Batman from the ego, then you would have a force of extraordinary power and terror - something possibly worse than Joker. And if you could distill Bruce Wayne from the ego, then you would have an ineffectual but still highly heroic human being. It's the combination of the two that makes the man so incredible.
I have an assistant manager friend who likes to mix his business life with his personal life, which makes him a weaker, insubstantial person in both areas.
Batman/Bruce Wayne (his "True" Self) and The Public Image of Bruce Wayne (his "False" or, more accurately, "Artificial" Self).
And it's important to note that Batman and Bruce Wayne are the same person (and that he isn't just Batman or just Bruce Wayne), because the cohesion that exists between those two personas is one of the aspects that makes him different from the villains he faces. While Batman's villains typically have some conflict between their identities and their super villain personas (Joker being the extreme of this, as he adopts new identities and personas, and Two-Face representing the center, in that his identity and persona are split directly in half) Batman has achieved a level of perfect cohesion between the morals and humanity of his Bruce Wayne persona and the power and drive of his Batman persona to form the Batman/Bruce Wayne ego.
If you could isolate or distill Batman from the ego, then you would have a force of extraordinary power and terror - something possibly worse than Joker. And if you could distill Bruce Wayne from the ego, then you would have an ineffectual but still highly heroic human being. It's the combination of the two that makes the man so incredible.
Although I've never really understood the dynamic that he has with his wards (the Robins.) Is he ever really fatherly toward them?
I think that he originally wanted to provide Dick Grayson with a family life that was taken from him when he was younger, but he didn't really know how to provide warmth and love because he was all too consumed with his mission. And over time, he just learned that all he could do to really prepare them for the world was to teach them the things that he knows and strengthen them to a level that would keep them protected from a world filled with Jokers (even if he failed at that with Jason Todd). Still, I think it would be really touching to see him do for Damien what his father did for him. Maybe have the two spend the afternoon watching Mask of Zorro. :)
They are the same person, just different personalities. Learn the difference.
Different personalities in the same person would be psychological disorder lol. It's a fake face to the public he has one personality as most of us do.
I think he does it on purpose. I agree with @The Dark Huntress: that Batman is his real personality (untrusting, cold, etc) and that he puts on a face for his public identity. Although I've never really understood the dynamic that he has with his wards (the Robins.) Is he ever really fatherly toward them?
I agree, and Bruce is very fatherly toward them If this isn't fatherly, then I don't know what is. ;P
I'm wondering if that family dynamic will pass on to the new universe instead of recreating the same problems. As for Bruce, he's just very consistent in character. You wouldn't expect a cop to play cop at home with his wife and children or comb a criminal's hair at the precinct. The whole mask thing has become ridiculous, but creating aliases and acting the part has always been a bit strange.
I think he does it on purpose. I agree with @The Dark Huntress: that Batman is his real personality (untrusting, cold, etc) and that he puts on a face for his public identity. Although I've never really understood the dynamic that he has with his wards (the Robins.) Is he ever really fatherly toward them?
I agree, and Bruce is very fatherly toward them If this isn't fatherly, then I don't know what is. ;P
"Bruce Wayne is a mask I wear, that I've been wearing since I was a child... but it's become a liability, so it's over. Bruce Wayne and his troubles aren't my concern anymore. The only thing that matters now is my mission. Nothing will stand in the way anymore "- Batman
"I wear a mask. And that mask, it's not to hide who I am, but to create what I am." - Batman
I think he does it on purpose. I agree with @The Dark Huntress: that Batman is his real personality (untrusting, cold, etc) and that he puts on a face for his public identity. Although I've never really understood the dynamic that he has with his wards (the Robins.) Is he ever really fatherly toward them?
I agree, and Bruce is very fatherly toward them If this isn't fatherly, then I don't know what is. ;P
Oh he did! Fantastic! What issue was this?
Haha, it was Batman & Robin #20. This has to be one of my favorite pages ever.
@The_Tree: Poor Jason Todd...It's so sad that he couldn't be there with the rest of his family. (And it's even sadder still to imagine that he might be viewing it through the window...)
@cosmo111687: Maybe that will change with the revamp, or at least he'll find a way to reconnect slowly with everyone. @The Stegman: Thank you. Edited for super dyslexia reasons.
They are the same person, just different personalities. Learn the difference.
Different personalities in the same person would be psychological disorder lol. It's a fake face to the public he has one personality as most of us do.
Batman is Batshit insane incase you haven't noticed. You can argue that Bruce Wayne is a persona of Batman, in Jungian's terms persona is a "functional complex ... by no means identical to the individuality" Batman originated as a shadow archetype(Jugian term) after Bruce Wayne's parents were killed, as he ages and matures he starts to identify with this psyche, upon reaching individuation Batman became his dominate personality(the self archetype) and Bruce Wayne is developed as a concious persona.
@Vortex13: I really think he does have a disorder. Its like someone puting a mask /suit and he becomes a different person. Joker said that both of them are crazy just that batman won't admit it.
@The_Tree: Poor Jason Todd...It's so sad that he couldn't be there with the rest of his family. (And it's even sadder still to imagine that he might be viewing it through the window...)
lol I can just picture him crouched outside the window...a single tear running down his cheek
@The_Tree: Poor Jason Todd...It's so sad that he couldn't be there with the rest of his family. (And it's even sadder still to imagine that he might be viewing it through the window...)
lol I can just picture him crouched outside the window...a single tear running down his cheek
Actually there is 3 personsnallitys. Bruce Wayne Batman Bruce You could notice that when he is not Batman or Bruce Wayne, he is another character, he is another person.
Saying that Bruce Wayne is a mask and Batman is the true identity marginalises the character, and it's not the case anyway. Bruce created Batman, and Batman's existence necessitated the creation of a fake "party-boy" Bruce. Bruce took in Dick Grayson, Batman had nothing to do with it. Batman then showed Dick Grayson the path of Robin. Bruce Wayne and Batman are the same person, it's why the cowl can't simply just be passed on. Bruce Wayne isn't some dumb party boy, but he's also not just Batman. He's both, and he recognises himself as both, which is what has kept him from drifting into insanity.
Saying that Bruce Wayne is a mask and Batman is the true identity marginalises the character, and it's not the case anyway. Bruce created Batman, and Batman's existence necessitated the creation of a fake "party-boy" Bruce. Bruce took in Dick Grayson, Batman had nothing to do with it. Batman then showed Dick Grayson the path of Robin. Bruce Wayne and Batman are the same person, it's why the cowl can't simply just be passed on. Bruce Wayne isn't some dumb party boy, but he's also not just Batman. He's both, and he recognises himself as both, which is what has kept him from drifting into insanity.
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