Beware the Batman "Family" Discussion

Posted by k4tzm4n (44479 posts) - - Show Bio

*Contains some spoilers*

Beware the Batman, can you please always open your episodes with Batman and Katana fighting a swarm of ninjas? Seriously, the plot could have nothing to do with the Lady Shiva and her organization, but a little dose of heroes vs. ninjas to kick things off never hurt anyone (except for the ninjas, but Shiva probably gives them great health insurance). As you've probably guessed by now, the latest episode, "Family," sees the return of Katana's story with the kryptonite green sword that absorbs souls (the Soultaker). Silver Monkey, a villain who will hopefully reappear someday in The New 52, is still power hungry and wants to get his hands on the weapon. So, the villain goes after Tatsu with a plot that'll force her to bring the sword directly to him.

There are two key things which make "Family" standout: a whole lot of rather awesome action and some shockingly out of character moments. The action delivers and then some. Already pointed out is a team-up against ninjas -- one which is really extensive, mind you, but we get to see a claustrophobic and quite intense rematch between Silver Monkey and Katana, and... LADY FREAKING SHIVA BUSTS A MOVE! She's not as formidable as I had hoped, but to be fair, it was two against one and she still held her own pretty well. Plus, a drugged Silver Monkey stumbling around and then breaking out superb form and swift attacks in an effort to save his own skin was a really nice treat as well.

"Wait, didn't you say there's shockingly out of character moments?!" Yes, and at the time, they made me exclaim, "Wait... WHAT?!" We're talking about the man whose secrets have secrets lashing out at Alfred and Katana for hiding something from him, after all. Then, he's somewhat randomly getting all intimidate with Ravencroft and seemingly trying to take the relationship to the next stage. I told myself there has to be something we're missing, and sure enough, it all makes sense in the end.

"Family" is a very satisfying episode. There's plenty of great fights and once again Bruce's capabilities as a detective get a good amount of respect. Most important of all, however, is this episode's cheer-inducing conclusion which has been slowly building up for quite some time now. There's so much this show has to offer. The (hopefully improved) return of various villains, the Gordon family dynamic, and now, Lady Shiva's front and center. Let's just hope they're able to juggle all of these elements with talent and continue to offer solid payoffs!

Viners, what did you think of "Family?" Give the comments section a piece of your mind.

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#1 Edited by Master_Thief (774 posts) - - Show Bio

Great episode but poor ravencroft

#2 Edited by MrMazz (1240 posts) - - Show Bio

Unsurpisngly the return of the League of Assassins means another great episode of Beware the Batman. This episode NEEDED to be a cold open ugg it would have been so much better with one.

Overall I think you are rating the action a bit higher than me. The Shiva Bat-Katana fight and carr fight between Monkey and Katana were great but eh them running threw loads of enimes felt kidna ephemeral to me.

Lady Shiva's character design is awesome. She looks like an actual character and everyone else looks like a toy.

more thoughts here in my user blog post

#3 Edited by Captain13 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

When is Black Lightning going to show up? That's all I really care about to be honest.

This was an okay episode.

#4 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah I was angry at Bruce for being so snipply and rigid with Alfred at the beginning but the ending helped tie everything together for me. Great episode I think!

#5 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6935 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh I quit with this show. Waste of time.

#7 Edited by Dark_Guyver (2315 posts) - - Show Bio

Ravencroft got what she deserved! You should never betray the GD Batman.

#8 Posted by patrat18 (9794 posts) - - Show Bio

Great episode i really liked how Lady Shiva was more than a match for Batman and Katana.

#9 Edited by Paul3001 (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Just finished the episode. Great show, I must admit I had my doubts about this show but it turned up great. Love the continuity aspect of the episodes.

#10 Posted by MrShway88 (655 posts) - - Show Bio

I enjoyed it. Makes me optimistic about the future.

#11 Posted by dondave (37629 posts) - - Show Bio
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#12 Posted by Pokeysteve (8313 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked it but why is Lady Shiva English? One Asian woman per series or something?

#13 Edited by Lurkero (188 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been enjoying the show so far, especially since I can't recall any other time the League of Assassins was included in an animated storyline. Makes this show feel original.

I have been a little annoyed by the close-up actions scenes though. Zoom out people!

LADY FREAKING SHIVA BUSTS A MOVE! She's not as formidable as I had hoped, but to be fair, it was two against one and she still held her own pretty well.

One good thing about this show so far is that nobody is overpowered. Both the good guys and bad guys are even during fights. It's weird when Batman fights people with no martial arts training, but when he's fighting ninjas it's pretty balanced. Balanced action is always more interesting to me than one-sided action.

@pokeysteve said:

I liked it but why is Lady Shiva English? One Asian woman per series or something?

Perhaps the same reason why Bane was English in The Dark Knight Rises? I think giving her an English accent is weird too.

#14 Posted by Pokeysteve (8313 posts) - - Show Bio

@lurkero said:
@pokeysteve said:

I liked it but why is Lady Shiva English? One Asian woman per series or something?

Perhaps the same reason why Bane was English in The Dark Knight Rises? I think giving her an English accent is weird too.

I liked Bane's voice in Rises. One of the only things I liked about Rises. It just seemed pointless to change her ethnicity. I can't wait to see more of her.

#15 Posted by ectoborge (208 posts) - - Show Bio

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

this show is awesome!

#16 Posted by Mezmero (933 posts) - - Show Bio

I've really wanted to like this show but it's getting harder with each subsequent episode. The art and animation are okay but honestly the most impressive thing visually are the smoke effects. I'm also starting to think that the script is not very good. All the Bruce Wayne lines are well done but everyone else including Batman have to wrap their lips around such cringe inducing cheesy dialogue. That is a bizarre thing for a comic book fan to complain about since that's the bread and butter of comics. I just find it hard to take this show as seriously as it seems to take itself. My biggest problem with this show is that I'm not afraid of this version of Batman. I feel like even I could get away with crime in Gotham since Batman's really bad at chasing people. I'm seriously thinking about dropping this show after this episode. I've been unimpressed since the start.

#17 Posted by The Stegman (24485 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, I'm on the fence about this show.

#18 Posted by Wonder Princess (138 posts) - - Show Bio

I really liked this episode. It was a nice little wrap up to the first story arc. I can not wait to see more of Lady Shiva!!! :)

#19 Posted by TenEyedMen (212 posts) - - Show Bio

Excellent episode and a good kick in the pants to the show's story arcs.

Glad to see Katana finally joining Batman.

#20 Posted by uberathlete (25 posts) - - Show Bio

Enjoyed the episode.

#22 Edited by SupBatz (1737 posts) - - Show Bio

Decent episode. I liked that everything was tied together in the end. But my big issue with every episode of BtB so far has been that none of the episodes are truly memorable. Did I enjoy this while I watched? Sure. But it lacked the "Wow" factor that would make me want to rewatch someday.

#23 Posted by MasterDetective (835 posts) - - Show Bio

all those cheezy lines...

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#24 Posted by Chewblocka (28 posts) - - Show Bio

How is this show so far ? Havent watched a single episode yet and haven't heard anything crazy about it to make me want to...

#25 Posted by Nighthound (16 posts) - - Show Bio

Foot clan, is that you?

#26 Posted by MasterDetective (835 posts) - - Show Bio

How is this show so far ? Havent watched a single episode yet and haven't heard anything crazy about it to make me want to...

Bruce goes out with an ugly gal, Katana is cross eyed, Alfred is bald and more useful than the hero, Batman only has corny one-liners, every villain escape at the end, Gotham City is a ghost town

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#27 Posted by Mezmero (933 posts) - - Show Bio

@chewblocka said:

How is this show so far ? Havent watched a single episode yet and haven't heard anything crazy about it to make me want to...

Bruce goes out with an ugly gal, Katana is cross eyed, Alfred is bald and more useful than the hero, Batman only has corny one-liners, every villain escape at the end, Gotham City is a ghost town

Nailed it.

#28 Edited by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

The show is actually a lot better than I thought it would be. Great action, good animation, interesting plot development.

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#29 Posted by blastaar (110 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool episode. I like the show it's getting better. Lady Shiva kicks ass, and when is the Joker showing up?

#30 Posted by TenEyedMen (212 posts) - - Show Bio

How is this show so far ? Havent watched a single episode yet and haven't heard anything crazy about it to make me want to...

It's pretty good. Starts out a bit slow but gets increasingly better. Only dud is episode three.

#32 Posted by Chronicjihad (23 posts) - - Show Bio

Really, I have to say that it was the best episode so far. Animation is definitely getting better as well.

The team behind this show has a ton of talent and I hope they keep it up.

#33 Posted by Perfect 10 (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

lady shiva looking like barda lol but in pink. im fine with it only because her design looks so cool though that is not my shiva, also didnt like that she wasnt the fierce martial artist that she is suppose to be but.. even though katana got a lick in shiva just laughed it off showing hints of her holding back during that fight. hope to see more of her. it took awhile but ever since metamorpho the show has found its footing

#35 Posted by Canderia718 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

The animation is not very good. They only animate the story characters and a few buildings. They cant even be bothered to make the world feel like its inhabited. Its like an animated version of playing with your action figures in a sandbox. Also the stories haven't really blown me away. Mostly D list villains.

#36 Posted by War Killer (20223 posts) - - Show Bio

I enjoyed this episode. The show is far from perfect and some episodes feel too standalone at times (this one excluded, of course), but I feel that with another season this series could become an a amazing show.

Still not sure how I feel about Katana being Batman's first partner, before even Robin, but I like that they're trying to do something new and different so I'll roll it.

#37 Posted by jwalser3 (5042 posts) - - Show Bio

First episode I saw and I gotta say...wow. Pretty good!

#38 Posted by RustyRoy (12772 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the show, its different.

#39 Posted by soumya (149 posts) - - Show Bio

@chewblocka said:

How is this show so far ? Havent watched a single episode yet and haven't heard anything crazy about it to make me want to...

Bruce goes out with an ugly gal, Katana is cross eyed, Alfred is bald and more useful than the hero, Batman only has corny one-liners, every villain escape at the end, Gotham City is a ghost town

probably the best comment in the bunch...Anyway the show is actually shaping up to be good and the last episode had some good moments IMHO.

#41 Edited by danaandra (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Glad to see I'm not the only person who thought this was an awesome episode. I've been enjoying the series overall, but this one really hit a home run IMO.

#42 Posted by gator4eva (396 posts) - - Show Bio

I've liked the series so far but this episode was by far the best one in my opinion. Got to see Katana and Batman in action together and it looks like more of that in the future.

#43 Edited by Goober_and_Cindy (3 posts) - - Show Bio

MagPie is still my favorite episode. She remindsme of Catwoman. But if they had shown more of Lady Shiva this might have been the best one.

#45 Posted by ogg927 (135 posts) - - Show Bio

This show is awesome! Silver Monkey, Magpie, Professor Pyg, Metamorpho, Katana, and Lady Shiva. I'm glad that they are using lesser known characters than the usual Joker, Catwoman and Riddler.

#46 Posted by Jack Donaghy (1030 posts) - - Show Bio

This episode was my favorite of the season so far I can't wait to see the future interactions of Bruce and Katana now that she knows he is Batman.

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