Batman overrated?

#301 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio

I heard he carries a few trojans, a grappling hook, lots of nades,  a extra cowl , a batpod lol man I can go all day! go batman!

#302 Posted by Windgrace (88 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not even going to read much of anything anyone has really responded with here and just say hell no he is not overrated. What makes Batman so unique and spectacular for a "regular" human is that his mind is among the keenest and most shrewd around. He's not particularly a GENIUS, but he has a spectacular attention to detail and a knack for finding a solution where others were dumbfounded. When it comes to him facing super powered beings he knows he's small potatoes by comparison and approaches it in such a manner working from the shadows with smoke and mirrors  and the like that he befuddles them into making a wrong move that he exploits to their greatest chagrin. He's not a powerhouse by any physical means but he's got one hell of a head on those shoulders.

#303 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"I think people believe Batman has more in that belt than he actually does."
Cable is carrying the rest of Batman's stuff in his access pockets.
#304 Posted by Vance Astro (91235 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I think people believe Batman has more in that belt than he actually does."
Cable is carrying the rest of Batman's stuff in his access pockets."
LOL.
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#305 Posted by Firestormnuclerman (2097 posts) - - Show Bio

I doubt Batman could come up with a plan to beat Superman Prime (One Million).

#306 Posted by Secret Turchin Man (1852 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman IS overrated, but he is still pretty fk'n cool.

#307 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"I think people believe Batman has more in that belt than he actually does."
Apparently Batman's belt always has an infinite amount of whatever he needs to win inside it.  Exploding batarangs, acid, sonics, cryo-weapons, gas pellets...he can pack all that crap into one small belt I guess.  After all...HE'S THE GODDAMN BATMAN!!!!
#308 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio
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#309 Posted by Vance Astro (91235 posts) - - Show Bio
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#310 Posted by Ayatola (146 posts) - - Show Bio

everything is overrated

air is overrated

my left testicle is underrated though

#311 Posted by Vance Astro (91235 posts) - - Show Bio
Ayatola said:
"everything is overrated

air is overrated

my left testicle is underrated though"
.............
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#312 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio
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#313 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
#314 Posted by Vance Astro (91235 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"http://www.comicvine.com/utility-belt/18-46369/"
How long ago was this made?"
last edit - 01/26/2009"
Oh ok.I always thought Batman hat different types of Batarangs..like some that explode or freeze things....Maybe not though.
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#315 Edited by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"http://www.comicvine.com/utility-belt/18-46369/"
How long ago was this made?"
last edit - 01/26/2009"
Oh ok.I always thought Batman hat different types of Batarangs..like some that explode or freeze things....Maybe not though."
He does indeed.  Behold! 


























Most of them are specialist equipment though.  He won't be carrying the heavy-duty stuff on an average patrol night.


Edit: That image should be larger.  Readable version here.
#316 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"http://www.comicvine.com/utility-belt/18-46369/"
How long ago was this made?"
last edit - 01/26/2009"
Oh ok.I always thought Batman hat different types of Batarangs..like some that explode or freeze things....Maybe not though."
Well that's just the last time the page here on the Vine was edited.
I think the Batman Encyclopedia showed more gadgets.
#317 Posted by Vance Astro (91235 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Vance Astro said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"http://www.comicvine.com/utility-belt/18-46369/"
How long ago was this made?"
last edit - 01/26/2009"
Oh ok.I always thought Batman hat different types of Batarangs..like some that explode or freeze things....Maybe not though."
Well that's just the last time the page here on the Vine was edited.
I think the Batman Encyclopedia showed more gadgets."
Oh ok.
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#318 Posted by Darkerman (516 posts) - - Show Bio

No, he is a prep master and with enough prep he would beat several superpowered beings with ease.

#319 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio
@Secret Turchin Man said:


                    Batman IS overrated, but he is still pretty fk'n cool.

                   

               

unquestionably.
#320 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2039 posts) - - Show Bio

 Batman is the most complete street level character.  I can't think of a single person that can match him in both fighting skill and intellect. 

#321 Posted by Darkerman (516 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Wolverine, X-Men, Spider-Man, and the likes a more overrated than Bats.

#322 Posted by cosmo111687 (1489 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman's "power" is scalable according to the threats that he faces. If he must, he WILL find a way to defeat his opponents - whither it be a street mugger or a supreme alien overlord.

#323 Posted by Picard (999 posts) - - Show Bio
@ScoodleDaddle said:

He's severely overrated, and Frank Miller's allegations that he can beat anyone with some planning is just plain stupid.

Yes he is overrated. There is plenty of people in comics that are equaly smart if not smarter than Bruce - Reed Richards, Tony Stark - and in this same time they are far more powerful than he is. There is also plenty of people that can kick Batman ass in h2h combat - and they did - Prometheus, Deathstroke, Azrael, Bronze Tiger... I don't hate Batman - quite contrery, he is fascinating character when he is written properly, but this: "Ooo, Batman can defeat anyone - only because he is insanely popular and people want to read about him - is getting ridiculous. 
And Batman is overused - DC make movie about some other hero, not only about Batman and Superman, OK?
#324 Posted by WaveMotionGun (71 posts) - - Show Bio

I love the Bat but he's defintely overrated.

#325 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10267 posts) - - Show Bio

Not as much anymore.

#326 Posted by HellionVulcan (3781 posts) - - Show Bio

Plot device is batman's best friend .

#327 Posted by GTG12 (1575 posts) - - Show Bio

 
Popular people win battles lol.

#328 Edited by Ramtha07 (1291 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is so overrated it is now popular trend to have him underrated. 
Batman is comic's greatest human level hero and that's a fact. He has got some spectacular feats that are in no way plot induced and these should always take the fore in my opinion. 
Batman is an awesome kickass character who has earned and deserves a spot among the top of the street level elite.
#329 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4732 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ramtha07: Pretty much. The difference between him and most other street brawlers is that he can take a beating, show fatigue, and yet still devise a plan to one-up his foes.
#330 Posted by mark5 (1213 posts) - - Show Bio
@GTG12 said:
 Popular people win battles lol.
so it seems.  
 
Really he just has the writers  on his side all the time> Read Tower of Babel? He took down the entire justice league. :|
#331 Posted by Ramtha07 (1291 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:


                    @GTG12 said:


                     Popular people win battles lol.

                   

               
so it seems.   Really he just has the writers  on his side all the time> Read Tower of Babel? He took down the entire justice league. :|

                   

               

I think the audience needs to realize that Batman is not a mere human. He has a superpower. Bonafide. And it's his mind. Tis a powerful tool indeed.
#332 Posted by departed402 (549 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think he is overrated, but I don't like him. Also, I think "prep" is a dumb thing to include in battles because it means different things to different people. To some people prep for Darth Vader is meditation, where others think prep for Vader means whipping up an Imperial fleet. Honestly 5 minutes should be max prep, and it should be basic preparations. If whatever they need isn't on their person or readily available then it's out. 
The writers have made him one of the top minds in the comic world, and he has limitless money which is retarded. Where is the IRS to audit Wayne Enterprises?! You'd think a Justice League Watch Tower space station would make it obvious that someone over at Wayne Enterprises was cooking the books.
#333 Posted by Wyldsong (5581 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valkaad said:

There seems to be a lot of people who think Batman is unbeatable. I have heard people say that he could even beat someone as powerful as Darkseid. I like Batman, I think he is really an awesome character and has one of the most tactically brillaint minds in all of comics. HOWEVER...he is only a MAN! No superstrength, no superspeed, he doesn't even possess superhuman intelligence! If Batman got into a battle with any superhuman above a D rate villain he would be mopped up quickly and efficiently! The only reason you will never see it is because he sells too many comics!!

I know...responding to a necro thread...but I for some reason find a lot of humor in the bolded, underlined portion of a 4 year old post...
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#334 Posted by entropy_aegis (15319 posts) - - Show Bio
@Picard said:
@ScoodleDaddle said:

He's severely overrated, and Frank Miller's allegations that he can beat anyone with some planning is just plain stupid.

Yes he is overrated. There is plenty of people in comics that are equaly smart if not smarter than Bruce - Reed Richards, Tony Stark - and in this same time they are far more powerful than he is. There is also plenty of people that can kick Batman ass in h2h combat - and they did - Prometheus, Deathstroke, Azrael, Bronze Tiger... I don't hate Batman - quite contrery, he is fascinating character when he is written properly, but this: "Ooo, Batman can defeat anyone - only because he is insanely popular and people want to read about him - is getting ridiculous.  And Batman is overused - DC make movie about some other hero, not only about Batman and Superman, OK?

Bronze Tiger was a fluke.The others are beyond his physical ability,especially Azrael at his peak,Slade only won barely. 
What the hell is this doing in the battle forums though? He is overrated,just as much as any other character who's gone mainstream.
#335 Posted by God_Spawn (37898 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis:  Did i just hear you say Bruce is overrated O_o????
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#336 Posted by entropy_aegis (15319 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn said:
@entropy_aegis:  Did i just hear you say Bruce is overrated O_o????

Ofcourse he is...well maybe not here on the vine,but a lot of places elsewhere.
#337 Posted by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

batman overrated? Ya, and superman can fly.......... oh, he can.
#338 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman will make you eat those words and shove them up your ass!!!
#339 Posted by djotaku (441 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Voidwalker: OR......DC does a reboot where he's younger. q;o)
#340 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10845 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry guys but there is huge list of characters more overrated that Batman.
Spiderman (Most overrated character ever and i am a Spiderman fan)
Wolverine (Deathstroke beat him, like if he was a punk, that is evidence that how overrated he is)
Ironman (Not as smart as people belive)
Captain America (Sorry i just dont care)
Reed Richards (Cicil Wars show he was pretty stupid, sorry but you are not as smart as Doom)
I mean, do a list of how many character could be in all the levels as Batman, the interesting ones are not popular enough to have big storylines and the ones that are popular enough are really bidimensional characters and slaves of their own fame.
The problem this days is that Nolan films rape Marvel films and the Marvel fans cant live with that.

#341 Posted by david4shure (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Um well the problem with this post is that your in the batman forum lol.

#342 Posted by StarKiller809 (1238 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Batman. I think that he is a classic character and that is why he is so popular. That and the Billion dollar grossing movies.
#343 Posted by shawn87 (2095 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Batman more and more every time I read a new Batman comic. I don't feel he's overrated at all. 

#344 Posted by virgin4life (428 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Voidwalker said:

Aging > Batman. He has to die eventually.

you dumb, bro? comic book characters dont age
#345 Posted by SnickerSnack (101 posts) - - Show Bio
@virgin4life said:
@The Voidwalker said:

Aging > Batman. He has to die eventually.

you dumb, bro? comic book characters dont age
lol. you sure about that bud?
#346 Posted by GOREX (49 posts) - - Show Bio

To be honest if you think about it Batman was beaten a lot of times. Heck he always gets into traps and lets not forget how many people he puts in danger. Need I say how many have perished due to his inability? There actually was a nifty graphic novel called Batman Venom that was based on Batman's limitations and how he tried to cope with them.
 
Batman is by far one of the more vulnerable heroes due to lack of super-powers but the way he makes up for them and his will to stay alive and keep fighting is what makes him, even at his darkest hour, shine above the rest. Sure he may be over-rated but compared to any other hero both in DC and Marvel he's just one step above. Heck look at the recent movies and how he is in relation to the world around him. Sure he doesn't always live up to expectations or he may get a better or a worse writer from time to time but he's the <guess word> Batman!

#347 Posted by RScottH08 (249 posts) - - Show Bio

i didnt think he was overrated for awhile, then bane breaks his back really made me realize he is only human, but him coming back and seemingly beating everyone thereafter is what really made me feel like he was overrated

#348 Posted by iaconpoint (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman isn't overrated but he can't beat anyone and everyone. I don't think he could beat Captain America, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman or Thor. The think that makes him great is that without super powers he is still more feared than Superman or Wonder Woman in his universe and I think he'd be more feared than Hulk or Wolverine in the Marvel universe. Unbeatable? No. Overrated? Not in the slightest. 

#349 Posted by 84taskmaster84 (50 posts) - - Show Bio

I think some writter write Batman up and he is a bit overrated its why i stopped reading batman comics didnt he just kill darksied with his super cool new god killing gun lol in a comic batman wins hands down with any kind of prep i liked batman better when he was a street leveler not the JLA power house doesnt he have on file a way to kill all the JLA and how is batman so feared superman can high five me to death on accident i like bats more when he fought criminaly insane people and got busted up doing it.He has turned into Shang Chi mixed with Reed Richards brain to creat anything he wants and out class anyone its just a bit much for me
#350 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@84taskmaster84 said:
I think some writter write Batman up and he is a bit overrated its why i stopped reading batman comics didnt he just kill darksied with his super cool new god killing gun lol in a comic batman wins hands down with any kind of prep i liked batman better when he was a street leveler not the JLA power house doesnt he have on file a way to kill all the JLA and how is batman so feared superman can high five me to death on accident i like bats more when he fought criminaly insane people and got busted up doing it.He has turned into Shang Chi mixed with Reed Richards brain to creat anything he wants and out class anyone its just a bit much for me
It wasn't a super cool new god killing gun. It was a regular gun, firing a Radion bullet, that was developed by Apoliptian Scientists. Bruce had nothing to do with its creation.

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