batman catwoman vs batman talia.

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#1 Posted by LoganRogue24 (1187 posts) - - Show Bio

which pairing do you guys like and which woman suits batman the most. i personaly am a catwoman batman fan. but i can see why some like talia batman a little more then batman catwoman. i think selina and bruce have more in common then with talia. what do you guys think give me your ideas and thoughts.

#2 Posted by War Killer (20206 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Talia.

#3 Posted by comkid100 (244 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I prefer catwoman/batman mainly because they've been on & off for roughly 70 years

#4 Posted by doroty (101 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman catwoman. They can understand each other, they have a lot in common... personaly I don't like Talia at all.

#5 Posted by Dr. Jonathan Crane (11 posts) - - Show Bio

The Bat and the Cat.

Talia has proven time and time again where her loyalties really lie ... with her power-mad genocidal father. Besides, I just don't like the character of Talia. She's always seemed .. subservient to me. I mean, she's fine bossing around goons, but when good ol' Ra's or even Batman enter into the picture, she fades into the background. She's completely overshadowed by her father and by her ex-lover. Her character doesn't seem to matter on its own ... it's never "Talia al Ghul" but "Ra's daughter" or "Batman's lover". She's completely defined by her relationship to other characters. Plus, I just can't stand the way she always calls Batman "Beloved". And she just says it so much, like the end of every sentence has to be, "... beloved". Now I know Talia has probably had her share of good stories, and I'm sure she could be a strong, interesting character. But personally? I don't like her. I even tend to avoid any storyline that features her as an important character. I still can't decide which is worse ... Talia or that little monster Damian?

Now, Catwoman on the other hand ... there's no denying she's a criminal, but somehow that doesn't seem to matter. She's fiercely independent and she has style that Talia just doesn't have. She's sarcastic (which I always love). Heck, she's even has her own independent series (multiple, in fact). Can you really imagine an ongoing title featuring Talia? Not really. Catwoman goes beyond her relationship to Batman. She works as a character on her own, which is great. She's not defined by others.

So, yeah. Go Catwoman!

#6 Posted by sinestro_GL (3158 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dr. Jonathan Crane: My thoughts exactly. She seems like a tool at times.

...and besides, Batman always seems to be more interested in Selina.

#7 Posted by LoganRogue24 (1187 posts) - - Show Bio

i think all talia has going for her is her looks were selina has looks and personality shes sexy sassy sarcastic.

#8 Posted by Billy Batson (58026 posts) - - Show Bio

ef talia. Selina ftw.
BB

#9 Posted by htb106 (1641 posts) - - Show Bio

talia and bruce are more connected because of damian.

#10 Posted by LoganRogue24 (1187 posts) - - Show Bio

dose anyone know if bruce wanted damian i thought i heard talia forced him or tricked him or something.

#11 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

Talia ftw, I absolutely hate Catwoman

#12 Posted by xerozeven (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Bats and Cats for me. In the cartoon series, the relationship between Batman and Talia seemed so... forced, e.g., as like a storyline convenience. She's portrayed as some exotic lover with some evil family heritage. Sounds like something you'd see in a cliche action movie.

Catwoman is more of a continuing presence in Batman's life. Their relationship feels a lot less gimmicky than the Talia/Batman pairing. I like Talia as a character though (sometimes), just not when she's vying for Batman's affection.

#13 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Talia who?
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#14 Posted by KenTheProfile (412 posts) - - Show Bio

@LoganRogue24: it's not even close. catwoman and the batman. talia is a murdering psychopath like her father and only love batman because he daddy toold her to. catwoman is good a heart. also batman was date raped by talia ending in there son.

#15 Posted by ragdollpurps (15572 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by jayskee (1905 posts) - - Show Bio

talia

#17 Edited by Jimay94 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman & Catwoman for me. They have alot in common and really understand eachother since they both lead similar lives. talia....well i never really liked her much, i mean yea she's shown to save bruce's life but she always seem abit to pshyco for my liking. but hey thats just my opinion. plus i think bob kane wanted batman and catwoman to be together

#18 Posted by chipsnopotatoes (328 posts) - - Show Bio

Catwoman. Morrison's revealed that Talia is really a succubus.

#19 Posted by CatwomanFan38 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

So why her? Why not Zatanna or Talia al Ghul? Because:

#20 Edited by DB150 (53 posts) - - Show Bio

Talia and batman all the way

Batman

1 Batman has proven at one point that he is deeply in love with talia

2 Not only that but he was also willing to give up his life for her

3 he was also great full that he and talia had a son together ( well I guess he was happy to have Damian in his life if you don't revolve around batman inc)

Talia

1 in batman inc it was presumed talia wanted a family with Bruce

2 They share the same passion of justice

3 She was heart broken when she found out Bruce used her to investigate her father

In many comic books it shown that if either one changed their ways they could have been a happy couple

#21 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman. Trolololol.

#22 Posted by lifeofvibe (3487 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10827 posts) - - Show Bio

After Rises Catwoman had to punish Batman for the fact he had sex with Talia.

#24 Posted by bosshobo1 (34 posts) - - Show Bio

batman and catwoman

#25 Edited by DB150 (53 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathpoolthet1000: Kinky Where did this happen and in what comicbook

P.S is Catwoman really jealous of Talia Cause I never imagined she would be jealous of anyone

#26 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10827 posts) - - Show Bio

@db150: I dont know, i cant remember.

But it looks they do this even after having kids.

#27 Posted by Black_Arrow (3137 posts) - - Show Bio

Talia and Batman for me. seriously if Batman wanted he could be with Catwoman.

#28 Posted by sule_e_akbulut (1 posts) - - Show Bio

for me it would have to be Talia and batman

#29 Edited by DB150 (53 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't explain it but it seems like Talia and batman are meant to be for some reason I don't know if it's because of Damian or if they have some kind of chemistry but seems right anyone get where I'm coming from

#30 Posted by RustyRoy (12718 posts) - - Show Bio

Still Batman and Talia.

#31 Posted by RDClip (1129 posts) - - Show Bio

Bat and Cat, ever since I saw Batman Returns as a kid.

#32 Edited by cameron83 (7303 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I prefer catwoman/batman mainly because they've been on & off for roughly 70 years

#33 Edited by Amaryllis (73 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: So have a lot of different diseases. No need to keep them around either. Especially the New 52 version of this weird klepto kitty who can't work a zipper.

#34 Posted by cameron83 (7303 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: So have a lot of different diseases. No need to keep them around either. Especially the New 52 version of this weird klepto kitty who can't work a zipper.

LMFAO

I actually didn't really mean the new 52,when I read this I read this with Batman: Hush in mind :)

Everything about this universe,save for some of the designs,sucks

#35 Posted by MrOmegaLevel (9 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman catwoman ftw

#36 Posted by Amaryllis (73 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: I only truly know the new 52 so that's what I think of. But I cannot stand Catwoman.

#37 Posted by cameron83 (7303 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: I only truly know the new 52 so that's what I think of. But I cannot stand Catwoman.

I hate her in the new 52

#38 Posted by spinningbirdcake (1430 posts) - - Show Bio

In her defense I don't believe she's a single capable writer handling her as a character at all since the reboot has she?

That being said I prefer Catwoman.

#39 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1648 posts) - - Show Bio

After Batman Inc, Catwoman.

#41 Posted by DB150 (53 posts) - - Show Bio

So why is Selina jealous of Talia

#42 Posted by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

One beeyitch got their son killed and decided to help by killing their mutated clone

selina by lightyears

#43 Posted by RamiaQuizzlinger (35 posts) - - Show Bio

Catwoman for me (though my fave's Harley). I guess I'm just old school.

#44 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10827 posts) - - Show Bio

#45 Posted by Marionettegeist (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

Catwoman for me (though my fave's Harley). I guess I'm just old school.

Harley and Batman?

#46 Edited by RustyRoy (12718 posts) - - Show Bio

@nathaniel_christopher said:

After Batman Inc, Catwoman.

I love Morrison, but I didn't like what he did to Talia and also the fact that he killed off Damian.

#47 Posted by Azrael_Online (186 posts) - - Show Bio

The Bat and the Cat.

Talia has proven time and time again where her loyalties really lie ... with her power-mad genocidal father. Besides, I just don't like the character of Talia. She's always seemed .. subservient to me. I mean, she's fine bossing around goons, but when good ol' Ra's or even Batman enter into the picture, she fades into the background. She's completely overshadowed by her father and by her ex-lover. Her character doesn't seem to matter on its own ... it's never "Talia al Ghul" but "Ra's daughter" or "Batman's lover". She's completely defined by her relationship to other characters. Plus, I just can't stand the way she always calls Batman "Beloved". And she just says it so much, like the end of every sentence has to be, "... beloved". Now I know Talia has probably had her share of good stories, and I'm sure she could be a strong, interesting character. But personally? I don't like her. I even tend to avoid any storyline that features her as an important character. I still can't decide which is worse ... Talia or that little monster Damian?

Now, Catwoman on the other hand ... there's no denying she's a criminal, but somehow that doesn't seem to matter. She's fiercely independent and she has style that Talia just doesn't have. She's sarcastic (which I always love). Heck, she's even has her own independent series (multiple, in fact). Can you really imagine an ongoing title featuring Talia? Not really. Catwoman goes beyond her relationship to Batman. She works as a character on her own, which is great. She's not defined by others.

So, yeah. Go Catwoman!

In aggreeance, like 100%. If you didn't post that I probably would have had a similar analization of her. Right down to the the 'beloved' and disliking Damian part. Even in Hush Bats is annoyed by her calling him that.

#48 Edited by Marionettegeist (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

@nathaniel_christopher said:

After Batman Inc, Catwoman.

I love Morrison, but I didn't like what he did to Talia and also the fact that he killed off Damian.

On one hand I respect the fact that he went forward with the story he wanted to tell, on the other hand why can't Batman just have a living son, and be at least a little happy?

#49 Posted by RustyRoy (12718 posts) - - Show Bio

@dctv3363 said:

On one hand I respect the fact that he went forward with the story he wanted to tell, on the other hand why can't Batman just have a living son, and be at least a little happy?

Because he's Batman ;(

#50 Posted by Marionettegeist (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy: His parents died, Robin died, his son died. If they just kill off Alfred his misery will be complete.

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