Looks like Geoff is losing control.
Batman
Character » Batman appears in 23648 issues.
Bruce Wayne, who witnessed the murder of his billionaire parents as a child, swore to avenge their deaths. He trained extensively to achieve mental and physical perfection, mastering martial arts, detective skills, and criminal psychology. Costumed as a bat to prey on the fears of criminals, and utilizing a high-tech arsenal, he became the legendary Batman.
Batman can now stomp Superman
http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Special%20Prep/Battles/batmansupermanannual1-batmanclanvsupermanclan4.jpg.html
He already could
Good, Geoff can go back to making lesser known characters cool instead of making popular characters dolts.
As Jayc1324 already noted, he already could.
Good, Geoff can go back to making lesser known characters cool instead of making popular characters dolts.
Pretty much this. He is great at expanding characters, terrible at writing already well defined/popular ones.
@ultrastarkiller: Wouldn't be surprised if Johns has him screw up and get the suit destroyed or stolen or something like that. I mean, his yellow ring is gone and lex luthor stole his kryptonite ring. Why the heck does Johns like stealing his stuff? Lol
@jayc1324: I bet Batman trips and the suit falls apart or when Luthor turns evil again, Johns brilliantly writes a way for Luthor to STEAL the suit right from under Bruce. Haha
@black_arrow: @dagmar_merrill: Each member of the League contributed into building it. In DKR, Batman built his own suit.
@jwalser3: Lol how do you expect him to go to the sun.
@frozen: But we have no real idea on its capabilities.
@frozen: But we have no real idea on its capabilities.
Lol, look at the first scan posted.
@ultrastarkiller: Luthor stealing the ring from him was ridiculous, especially in his green suit with gigantic fingers. Can't lex make his own kryptonite?
@frozen: I read Batman and robin I read the scans before. I just don't see how this proves anything.
@frozen: But we have no real idea on its capabilities.
Lol, look at the first scan posted.
What about it? If it was Super Uber strong is still has 13 exposed points.
We don´t even have proof that the suit is capable of beating Superman.
How is this proof that he can beat Superman?
@jwalser3: @dagmar_merrill: That's each member of the Justice League forging a suit's part, each with their own powers --- Batman by himself has already designed less advanced suits to combat Superman, essentially, the suit in the OP is far more advanced.
The suit could take on any individual member. To deny this is to deny evidence, or simply wishful thinking.
@dagmar_merrill: We won't find out what it's truly capable of until October I believe. Regardless I expect a fight of epic proportions between Batman and Kalibak!
@black_arrow: @cameron83: @jwalser3: Oh, and Batman on Venom in the New-52 smacked Superman around, the suit in the OP is a plot-device armor.
@black_arrow: @cameron83: @jwalser3: Oh, and Batman on Venom in the New-52 smacked Superman around, the suit in the OP is a plot-device armor.
People acknowledge that as serious?
Anyway,doesn't matter. We have no idea what this one is capable of to definitively say so.
@black_arrow: @cameron83: @jwalser3: Oh, and Batman on Venom in the New-52 smacked Superman around, the suit in the OP is a plot-device armor.
LOL.
Whelped you just lost all credibility
Batman by himself has already designed less advanced suits to combat Superman,
When? In a canon universe, when?
@black_arrow: @cameron83: @jwalser3: Oh, and Batman on Venom in the New-52 smacked Superman around, the suit in the OP is a plot-device armor.
People acknowledge that as serious?
Anyway,doesn't matter. We have no idea what this one is capable of to definitively say so.
Wishful thinking ^
The Bat Armor was forged by each member of the Justice League, with Wonder Woman confirming it was to protect him on a physical level, the same armor he planned to take to Darkseid, forged similar to how Wonder Woman's Pre-New 52 gauntlets were.
But....each member of the Justice League building a suit for Batman...that alone should tell how powerful it is (six members). In addition to this, Batman has built his own less potent suits and still went toe-to-toe with Superman, it's not hard to imagine that the OP armor is team-busting if it was created by a team.
LOL.
Whelped you just lost all credibility
I'm afraid not. It's about as credible as Supergirl, Wonder Woman or Shazam knocking back Superman. For Batman to be lesser is illogical, especially considering Aquaman said Batman would handle Shazam (who smacked away Superman).
When? In a canon universe, when?
In DKR canon, moreso the animated film version, we see an old, rusty Batman (who is less intelligent than canon Batman) build an armored suit.
@black_arrow: @cameron83: @jwalser3: Oh, and Batman on Venom in the New-52 smacked Superman around, the suit in the OP is a plot-device armor.
People acknowledge that as serious?
Anyway,doesn't matter. We have no idea what this one is capable of to definitively say so.
Wishful thinking ^
The Bat Armor was forged by each member of the Justice League, with Wonder Woman confirming it was to protect him on a physical level, the same armor he planned to take to Darkseid, forged similar to how Wonder Woman's Pre-New 52 gauntlets were.
But....each member of the Justice League building a suit for Batman...that alone should tell how powerful it is (six members). In addition to this, Batman has built his own less potent suits and still went toe-to-toe with Superman, it's not hard to imagine that the OP armor is team-busting if it was created by a team.
Wow,someone is extremely quick to jump to conclusions.
I'm just saying,that just because this suit was created by six members of the league doesn't exactly mean that he'll fight Superman and now "stomp" him. But when has he stomped him in the past? Because I've rarely seen fights in which Batman has beat Superman in canon,especially with a suit,without it being explained that Superman let him win....
....But now I feel that 50 vicious Batfans are going to jump all over me....
@cameron83: It's not jumping to conclusions. Read the comic. Look at the scans. The conclusion is there. The Justice League have created a suit, each member all contributing which will allow him to combat Gods. What you're essentially arguing is akin to saying Amazo with the JLA's power is not powerful.
@cameron83: It's not jumping to conclusions. Read the comic. Look at the scans. The conclusion is there. The Justice League have created a suit, each member all contributing which will allow him to combat Gods. What you're essentially arguing is akin to saying Amazo with the JLA's power is not powerful.
Oh,so he has actually fought Superman and has humiliated him in a fight enough for us to say that he can "stomp" him in a fight?
We have a vague understanding of his capabilities.
@frozen: Yeah and Superman was literally holding back in that fight. Bruce keeps on saying how Clark just keeps on trying to talk him out of it. And didn't Batman's suit get even more #rekted in the animated film?
As for your scan, what is that supposed to even mean?
I'm just speaking in general,but if Superman were to literally say "hit me" in the previous panel,that would count to many Batfans as a win. Which is why many of them bring in non canon panels to justify their stance,as well.
It's kinda sad.
Just in general,though.
@cameron83: Nah most of us are cool I think. Speaking for myself, as long as you're civil I'm okay with whatever you have to say, even if our opinions vary.
Yeah and Superman was literally holding back in that fight. Bruce keeps on saying how Clark just keeps on trying to talk him out of it. And didn't Batman's suit get even more #rekted in the animated film?
His armored suit was intact and Superman's suspect comments of ''holding back'' are put into question considering he ended up losing.
As for your scan, what is that supposed to even mean?
Shazam wanted to fight Batman, Arthur told him he'd lose, this is after Batman stomped Cyborg.
^ See above? That's the real Batman.
Batman is written better without Johns.
@cameron83: Nah most of us are cool I think. Speaking for myself, as long as you're civil I'm okay with whatever you have to say, even if our opinions vary.
I know not all. I just think that there are a lot of ridiculously zealous ones that let wishful thinking speak for them.
And since Batman is the most popular superhero/comic character,it only makes sense that he would have the most zealous fans that correlate with his popularity imo
Not that it's impossible for Batman to beat Superman,but for some arguments,they resort to out-of-context panels or Batman just punching him for many to declare that as a "win".
@frozen: Yeah and Superman was literally holding back in that fight. Bruce keeps on saying how Clark just keeps on trying to talk him out of it. And didn't Batman's suit get even more #rekted in the animated film?
As for your scan, what is that supposed to even mean?
I'm just speaking in general,but if Superman were to literally say "hit me" in the previous panel,that would count to many Batfans as a win. Which is why many of them bring in non canon panels to justify their stance,as well.
It's kinda sad.
Just in general,though.
DKR is non-canon, correct, but the Batman in DKR is also far below mainstream Batman.
@cameron83: It's not really ''impossible'' for him to beat him, he has beaten him in outside canon.
@frozen: Yeah and Superman was literally holding back in that fight. Bruce keeps on saying how Clark just keeps on trying to talk him out of it. And didn't Batman's suit get even more #rekted in the animated film?
As for your scan, what is that supposed to even mean?
I'm just speaking in general,but if Superman were to literally say "hit me" in the previous panel,that would count to many Batfans as a win. Which is why many of them bring in non canon panels to justify their stance,as well.
It's kinda sad.
Just in general,though.
DKR is non-canon, correct, but the Batman in DKR is also far below mainstream Batman.
Well he can sure do what mainstream can't do....
lol kidding.
Anyway,I think Superman was still holding back in that fight,but I have to go back and look. Not that it matters,since,you know....still non canon.
@cameron83: It's not really ''impossible'' for him to beat him, he has beaten him in outside canon.
I said that it wasn't impossible.....
@cameron83: I never said Batman can beat him with his own prep/tech, what I am saying however is that the overt reveal of a suit forged by every member of the League (not Batman) clearly indicates it's above individual members of the League.
@cameron83: I never said Batman can beat him with his own prep/tech, what I am saying however is that the overt reveal of a suit forged by every member of the League (not Batman) clearly indicates it's above individual members of the League.
Again,I don't think that there's enough evidence to support that notion yet. Just speculation.
Well this took off quickly. Basically, batman can beat superman and has in canon and can build advanced crap on his own and has in canon, but be obviously could not go to to be sun or do what hal flash cyborg and Diana could do. Problem solved?
Well this took off quickly. Basically,
batman can beat superman and has in canon He has? I mean,with context,in a fair fight?
and can build advanced crap on his own and has in canon true
but be obviously could not go to to be sun or do what hal flash cyborg and Diana could do. Problem solver?
@cameron83: I never said Batman can beat him with his own prep/tech, what I am saying however is that the overt reveal of a suit forged by every member of the League (not Batman) clearly indicates it's above individual members of the League.
Again,I don't think that there's enough evidence to support that notion yet. Just speculation.
It's not speculation if the comic shows you each member specifically using their power to create a battle suit.
It's like arguing if a bunch of Skyfathers all made Wonder Woman's bracelets together, they're not powerful, or Destroyer armor isn't powerful.
So other than Cyborg people with limited to no experience in building advanced technology suddenly became master armorers just because they have Superpowers? Just asking people to assume the members of the Justice League would have any idea what they were doing is kind of a stretch. Maybe if WW had Hephaestus make her portion and Aquaman had Atlantian armorers do his part and GL getting some tech help from Oa itd be easier to accept. I've never once seen Hal Jordan show any kind of proficiency in weapons manufacturing, Aquaman and Wonder Woman are warriors who don't appear to have any technical training, and since when is Superman a qualified blacksmith?
@cameron83: http://s289.photobucket.com/user/darknight2k/media/Special%20Prep/Battles/batmansupermanannual1-batmanclanvsupermanclan4.jpg.html
From batman/Superman annual 1
Before the fight began superman said that Batman had already hugely tipped the fight in his favor because of the kryptonite. This is weird, because superman already beay kryptonite man and wasn't really weakened, but a small amount from Batman weakened him enough to admit he probably couldn't win, and then he lost. So it was a little odd, but technically was a fair fight and batman won.
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