another tired batman pop psychology thread....here, enjoy

#1 Posted by VampireSelektor (746 posts) - - Show Bio

OK, I written a few posts arguing that Dick, Batman, and Joker exist in a trinity of morals: Dick represents ultimate good, Joker represents ultimate evil, and Batman operates in the middle as the righteous, flawed man. Other ComicViners have also related the other Robins to Batman thematically, so I'll give my two cents:

Jason Todd represents Batman's anger, fear, and resentment. Jason was the violent Robin who acted on his impulses and put himself above his prey - humans deserving of life. He was also the Robin who feared for his place in the world, the way Batman sought for identity in his formative years. Jason was Robin for four years post-Crisis, maybe a year in the comics before he died, but Batman internalized his essence so strongly that afterwards he nearly turned into the murderer of his origins; in a way, he never left.

Tim Drake represents Batman's logic, calculation. Tim was an equalizer, Dick approved, who helped restore balance to Batman. But as Tim got older, readers gained insight into a colder, clinical version of Bruce, a version where the finesse was replaced by an efficiency that could even factor homicide into a neat little strategy.

Thoughts?

#2 Posted by BatWatch (3015 posts) - - Show Bio

Good thoughts all around. Perhaps others have discussed this, but I have not heard of it.

I believe what you are talking about is more a personification of archetypes rather than psychology.

In this line of thought, where would Damian fit?

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#3 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

batman is one of those charecters that you can pull a whole lot of literary junk out of. thats why I like the charecter.

#4 Posted by VampireSelektor (746 posts) - - Show Bio

@PsychoKnights said:

Good thoughts all around. Perhaps others have discussed this, but I have not heard of it.

I believe what you are talking about is more a personification of archetypes rather than psychology.

In this line of thought, where would Damian fit?

You are correct.

Damian is the son of Batman - I'll contemplate this while typing - and Talia. Damian is the sort of child Bruce could have been had his parents never been murdered -spoiled, arrogant. Still, he's the spoiled, arrogant son of a genius detective-crimefighter-scientist and an conqueror-ecoterrorist. Batman has the intelligence and will to be the next Alexander the Great. Talia recognizes this since her father shares those same qualities, and seeks to cultivate their child into just that. Damian desires to be a worthy of the cowl, but does so while knowing of what he is capable of and could be. So, to wrap this yarn up, Damian personifies the marriage of a child Bruce who never lost his parents with the fighting prowess and intellect Batman gained through losing his parents. In a way, The Batman of "Batman" #666 is closer to the original Batman - he's a coldblooded killer.

#5 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

agreed, good looking into it..

#6 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

@FatihBATMAN said:

agreed, good looking into it..

#7 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

<3 ;D

#8 Posted by VampireSelektor (746 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP

#9 Posted by Rumble Man (11073 posts) - - Show Bio

@VampireSelektor: can ye do some on the batgirls later?

#10 Posted by VampireSelektor (746 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man: If something comes up, sure. Thanks.

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