One aspect of the casting of Ben Affleck that I have not heard addressed is concern about whether he will politicize Batman. One of many things I respected about Nolan is that in a time when people were shoehorning anti-bush stuff into their movies I could never get a read on what Nolans' politics were. I hope they stay as apolitical as possible. Will it be tempting for Affleck in 2015 to say that "Batman would endorse hillary clinton" or his new batman movie will be about universal healthcare or something as avatar-esque cringe-worthy as that. What do you think, comrades?

@cuddlebear: Are you kidding? TDKR was more right-leaning than the original DRK story, which says a lot.

Also, if you've seen Affleck's other films, you'd see his politics are left out. Even in Gone, Baby, Gone, the libby PI looks like a dummy in the end.

Plus, these are studio films, so creators get little say anyway.

Seems like you're trying to get upset tbh.

What is DRK?

explain and be definitive

well first i am not trying to get upset. it is just a question i thought should be asked. james cameron gets plenty of say in what happens in avatar. also i don't think afflecks work had any political agenda except maybe slightly in Argo. I just wonder if the temptation will be there when he has a franchise this big instead of his little artsy movies.

are these the only topics you are going to shut down, you little fascist?

nice way to lawyer your way into selective encforcement. i am not offended by your post. i am as pro-choice as it gets, pro-gay as it gets, secular as it gets, and an anti-theist. most of my universal healthcare posts have been mocking people defending it, as a opposed to complaining me about it. but universal healthcare has nothing to do with what i said, my subject was politicizing batman. affleck is a very political guy they talked about him running for something even. artists telling me to vote democrat annoys me... if any one them told me to vote republican it would annoy me too still waiting on that day though.

I may be missing the point, but how is this an Affleck problem and not a Goyer/Snyder problem? Affleck's not writing or directing, he's just portraying.

@aeron_glyndwr: *tackles*

How was Dark Knight or the Dark Knight Rises even remotely subtle about their political implications? Dark Knight - Batman illegally extradites a criminal from a foreign country, tortures criminals/"terrorists", uses people's cellphones to search for terrorists, come on, the last one wasn't even a subtle metaphor for the patriot act.

Dark Knight Rises, Bane literally attacks the stock exchange in an "occupy wallstreet" move, and turns Gotham into a straight communist state.

Apolitical? I think these movies are fine movies, but don't make me laugh.

@joygirl: Rawrrrrrrr

@Aeron_Glyndwr: Mwaaaaahahaha *snugglebite*

This is new :o

he is going to direct the batman franchise

good tackle! you have earned the right to dance with me, congratulations

you can interpret them as political but its not in your face telling you like avatar. you forgot the whole green energy is dangerous angle from TDKR also ;)

@aeron_glyndwr: Not that new. :o Maybe you don't know me on this account. ^_^

Keep ham-fisted politics out of my superhero chowder. I don't want another V for Vendetta smacking me in the face with the film makers oh-so clever 'political allegory'.

@cuddlebear: Ahhhh, I thought this was in reference specifically to Bats/Supes.

Is there any verified source for that btw? It's what I assumed, I just hadn't seemed it confirmed anywhere

@joygirl: I meant new to me....not dissuading you from it, though :D

@aeron_glyndwr: I know your true name!!! O.O

you get me rdlcip. you can actually spot an anti-bush protest sign in that movie. also that movie needs a reboot.

@joygirl: We we all know I'm so good at hiding my true identity :P

Y'all m***********s best be leaving V for Vendetta right alone. That movie was a masterpiece and it was SUPPOSED to be political.

pretty sure its part of his deal. also @joygirl and @aeron_glyndwr put on your red shoes and dance the blues

@Aeron_Glyndwr: And hence you cannot hide from my snuggles, even in this form! :3

@cuddlebear: That's what I thought, too....I just wasn't sober enough to apply that logic to your OP :P

@joygirl: But would I ever want to, is the question

@cuddlebear: But I don't have any red shoes. :(

natalie portman, my girl of joy, natalie portman. the rest of the cast i love but let me be that guy and say that the book was much better snear snear. also alan moore didn't predict bushs election in the 80's he could have but he chose not to.

@Aeron_Glyndwr: You wouldn't. ^-^ I give good spoon.

all those damn angels wana wear my red shoes :(

@cuddlebear: That's because (wait for it) Alan Moore is a hack and that comic was mediocre. It took putting Hugo Weaving behind the mask to make it a masterpiece.

thank you ma'am, may i have another?

@cuddlebear: You may. The Killing Joke was overrated. A League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was atrociously bad. And Watchmen is stupid.

eggy in a basket is my safe word

A masterpiece of terribleness? I hate Bush as much as the next guy, but that movie just took a Michael Moore doctmentary and shoved it up a sci-fi story's ass. Political allegory can be done well, but if it as over the top as V was, it should be a comedic satire. The one and only time I saw that movie, I was laughing from how ham fisted and on the nose it was.

I'm gonna pretend you didn't call V for Vendetta terrible. My body count is too high already this week.

@joygirl: No, I said masterpiece of terribleness much worse than standard terrible.

This was one of the most glorious things I've ever read on the Vine.

@comicstooge said:

Agreed, it was very well crafted.

People often confuse Batman with Green Arrow.

Batman is obviously not a left wing character, he obviously see the fails of left wing and just decide to keep himself in the middle.

Batman wasnt spying people for no reason, The Joker said he was going to kill a bunch of people, after the problem is solve Batman destroy the machine and stop at spying people, Obama spy everybody and people keeps saying he is not a criminal.

Obama said in the modern world, you cant have 100% freedom or 100% security, you have to decide to give your freedom to the goverment so they give you protection, thie when it was found the NSA was spying on everybody.

I remember that whn the mexican goverment ask for explanations for this, the Obama Administration justify their point and say if you have nothig to hide, you wouldnt have problems with they spying on you.

Batman saves Gotham, not the Goverment and does everything to change the society, not to keep it the same.

The main problem with Nolan Batman is that he dont belive in liberal bullshit and liberal double standards.

So it make him look like the reopublican party for democratic people and liberals.

But Batman is not spying on people all the time, he is not telling to give to him their freedom for protection or using their data for his own gain.

In TDK is shown Batman spied the goverment and saved people from the goverment that were going to kill them.

In Rises he had to sace the city after the goverment quit and let Catwoman to keep being a criminal, without any problem since she stole to people that deserve it.

I thought that was what the Republicans said when the Bush spying program got revealed.

A perfect example of IOKIYAR.

Thats was to the americans during Bush administration, this was to mexicans, when it was found that the Obama administrations keep this and decide to spy mexican citizens without telling the mexican goverment.

The Mexican Goverment ask for explenation and pretty much that what they said to them.

@aeron_glyndwr: @cuddlebear: It's an option in his contract to direct a movie outside of Justice League as seen in this post. Credibility of the content aside, here's the link.

http://www.comicvine.com/batman/4005-1699/forums/ben-affleck-batsuit-description-for-batman-vs-supe-1517017/

and sooooo edgy

@cuddlebear said:

Sure, and I'd say witty and satirical as well.

I especially liked the part about the Liberal Wave replacing the God Wave - does that mean The Source will be replaced by The Richard Dawkings and the New Gods will now be known as the New Vegan Atheist Tree Huggers? Will Darkseid now be pursing the Anti-Gay Equation on Apokolips, which is now a giant gay-to-straight therapy program deconversation centre? Orion will now be The Dog of Hippy Pacifism now? Instead of the Source Wall having powerful space cosmic beings and dead ancient gods pinned and impaled on its walls it now has Fox news journalists pinned to and stuck on Darwinist literature and Bill Nye Science books? Well potentially… who knows what those crazy liberal Hollywood A-List actors are up to right? I bet a lot of people have probably addressed this huge problem but the liberally biased media are suppressing them!

Beautiful right down to the punctuation

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Suppressed them and then took away their splendid healthcare plans in favor of the aforementioned death panels run by Arkham inmates that ended in any number of bloody tragedies, unwanted pregnancies, or the odd combination of both. This of course leads to The Spectre now bereft of power because of the now widely believed "One Nation Under God-Doesn't Exist" amendment taken from the Revised Gettysburg Address and now adopted into all formal governing matters. And with his dying breath, death rattle revealing the secrets of the universe, this inadvertently supplies Darkseid with the equation he seeks. I for one don't want to see a movie were the villain wins. Does anyone really want to see a movie where Darkseid wins?

Well I'm a conservative so if I feel like they are trying to push an agenda on me then I won't be watching it at all.