The Flash's Infinite Mass Punch and its feasibility
" @SC: Not going to happen? "
Sounds cool, and easy enough relatively for the characters, in extreme situations, with some scientific logic behind it, and probably therefore rather relaxed application of use in comics, but if actually accurately depicted as one would expect... the build up, the effect and the consequences would or should be a lot different from what we actually get. Like I said though... sounds cool, so would probably read cool. lol
The Flash idea, realistically not possible. With the help of the Speed Force, which reality doesn't have, and if it does some one please, point me in the right direction. :D
Well, supposedly when the Flash approaches light speed, his mass increases. Which, as mentioned, would probably tear the planet apart. It would be like a black hole suddenly appearing on the surface of the Earth. Of course, time would also slow down for him. But I thought the whole point of making a "speed force" was so he wouldn't be subject to realistic effects of moving at super speeds, if they're going to make this happen, why not make his body burn up from the friction of the air?
I believe technically, Flash could actually Infinity Mass Spit at people too. He should carry around small metal ball bearings, load up his mouth and go around killing well, all bad guys. Infinite Mass Spit would be unstoppable. Speed Force would prevent break up and maintain cohesion of the infinite mass of spit coated ball, and anything thats infinite mass, going that fast, will do some absolute dead damage to anyone doesn't have huge holes in their body or head, but I mean, no character like that would ever be made.
" I believe technically, Flash could actually Infinity Mass Spit at people too. He should carry around small metal ball bearings, load up his mouth and go around killing well, all bad guys. Infinite Mass Spit would be unstoppable. Speed Force would prevent break up and maintain cohesion of the infinite mass of spit coated ball, and anything thats infinite mass, going that fast, will do some absolute dead damage to anyone doesn't have huge holes in their body or head, but I mean, no character like that would ever be made. "If you were writing Flash comics, I would actually read them.
i would say no. I'm guessing here but wouldnt it be a simple (simple to some, not to me) math problem? The mass of the projectile (his fist and body) multiplied by the speed at which it is moving (near or at the speed of light) equals the amount of force or something like that? So while i think he can get a large (and i mean very very very large) amount of force behind his punch, i dont htink he would ever reach the infinity mark. Just imagine something that i would guess weighs roughly 5 pounds moving at the speed of light exactly at your face. It would cleanly take your head off with out you even feeling it most likely.
I've just been looking up information about the mathmatics and all i can say is im glad im not in school anymore. Instead here is a
wiki-link to give you an idea.
The second part is trying to moving around objects because turning at light speed would e impossible its like a car going going 100 miles per hour and turning suddenly.
IMP is a bad way to call it Its more of a Infinite Kinetic Energy Punch.
The formula for Energy is:
E (energy) = γ(next equation called the Lorentz factor) * m(mass) * c(speed of light) ^ 2
γ = 1 / square root( 1 - v(speed)^2/c^2 )
As v aproaches c γ gers closer to infinity
1 assume c=3 and v=2.9 then γ=3.905667
2 assume c=3 and v=2.99 then γ=12.25767
3 assume c=3 and v=2.999 then γ=38.73306
4 assume c=3 and v=2.9999 then γ=122.4755
5 assume c=3 and v=3 then γ=infinity
therefore making the kinetic energy infinity
It seems as though the mass hitting you is infinite but its just the energy.
It's just a name he doesn't actually reach the "" mass mark it just seems like it is infinite mass because he builds enough momentum to augment his punch enough to knock the target a continent away. velocity=intensity more speed=more force, his only problem is his body is put under high levels of stress and if he moves fast enough he will eventually start to burn he just can't reach that speed without killing himself anyway
@sup3rhulk: Untrue. DCU is not very consistent. It is shown at one point that he is able to vastly exceed the speed of light (which enables him to move freely between universes and dimensions. The Speed Force allows him the ability to run at such speeds anywhere without damaging neither him nor the environment like he realistically should. It acts like a force shield, containing the force he creates within him. As for the Infinite Mass Punch, it allows him to gain the mass of a white dwarf star, one of the most dense objects in the universe. By the laws of Physics, yes, he should not be able to move that fast nor gain that much mass or hit someone and they or the area survive. But since he can move fast enough to travel inter-dimensionally, it is safe to assume the laws of Quantum Mechanics has some part in his abilities. If you know a little about Quantum Mechanics, than you should know the theories don't always correlate with Reality; which justifies his abilities, since Much of DCU's logic is based on both principles of Magic, theories of Quantum, and beliefs of Theology. Very inconsistent.
It is a very simple concept. Relativity.
First, we realize in order to accelerate an object, we need to overcome it's inertia (mass) If it is not overcome, the object will not accelerate. Inertia is directly proportional to mass. Thus, as inertia increases, mass increases.
Second, we must establish the rule that nothing can exceed the speed of light. So this means that as you approach the speed of light - or match it - You can try to accelerate as much as you want but you will not because the inertia is not being overcome as it is exponentially increasing. Thus so is your mass.
This is seen through the equation (Momentum/Mass = Velocity) where velocity is constant.
This leads to a possibility to achieve Infinite Mass. And if all that mass at such a velocity is all shot at one place, that is a lot of force.
There is also relative mass, but that involves more special relativity, which is fun, but not when writing it down.
Here is your brief and simple explanation.
How do I know? Well, I take physics. If I am wrong in anyway, Hit me.
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