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    Character » Barbara Gordon appears in 4183 issues.

    Barbara Gordon was the first modern age Batgirl until she was brutally shot by the Joker, rendering her paralyzed from the waist down. Barbara reinvented herself as Oracle, providing intelligence to the DCU heroes and leading the Birds of Prey. She has recently become Batgirl once again to protect Gotham City.

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    #1  Edited By BaronVonDredd

    I don't know how far back in years Barbara Gordon was shot by the Joker, rendering her paralyzed from the waste down, but shouldn't the muscles in her legs be severely deteriorated by now?
     

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    #2  Edited By LT1085
    @BaronVonDredd: Lazy artist.
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    #3  Edited By The_Ghostshell

    Better question is with all the tech in the DCU (and the Bat-Verse), how have they not come up with a way for her to walk again?

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    #4  Edited By karrob
    @Gambler said:
    " Better question is with all the tech in the DCU (and the Bat-Verse), how have they not come up with a way for her to walk again? "
    Agreed! Wouldnt the lazarus pits work on her legs? Or is there a DC healer. Smh
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    #5  Edited By Nova`Prime`

    Well if you have the funds you can use electrical stimulation to work the leg muscles. But I'll go the way of Gambler and ask why the hell hasn't Batman fixed her. I mean doesn't he have like an anti-paralyzing spray in his utility belt?

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    #6  Edited By DEGRAAF

    he came back from a broken back and learned how to walk again. Damien even recently had his spine replaced so he would no longer be paralyzed. During Blackest Night Deadman took control of her body and even stated that she has great muscle memory and got her body to walk, run, and do aerobatics. I think it is her willingness to accept her situation as well as her fear of getting back out there in the thick of it. she is willing to fight and defend when the villain comes to her but she seems unwilling to go out and fight for the innoscent

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    #7  Edited By AtPhantom
    Don't we already have, like, dozens of "What the hell, DC?" threads dedicated to Barbara's disability?
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    #8  Edited By BaronVonDredd
    @AtPhantom: 
    This isn't one of those threads, man. I just want to know how she maintains the muscles in her legs despite having not used them for so long.
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    #9  Edited By Nova`Prime`
    @AtPhantom said:
    " Don't we already have, like, dozens of "What the hell, DC?" threads dedicated to Barbara's disability? "
    Probably.
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    #10  Edited By AtPhantom
    @BaronVonDredd said:
    " @AtPhantom:  This isn't one of those threads, man. I just want to know how she maintains the muscles in her legs despite having not used them for so long. "
    I know it isn't, but they've turned it into one.
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    #11  Edited By Crom-Cruach

    I'd would suggest reading the Batman story titled "the Chalice" from a few years back. In this story Bruce acquires the Holy Grail and finds out it does have the legendary healing properties ascribe to legend. He offers to Barbara to use the Grail to restore her legs. She refuses, saying it has something to do with her beliefs, thought she never says what those beliefs are that would stop her from wanting to be healed by the Holy Grail.

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    #12  Edited By warlock360

    You can still keep your legs somewhat in tact by sending nerval impulses towards them or with shock therapy.

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    @Gambler said:
    " Better question is with all the tech in the DCU (and the Bat-Verse), how have they not come up with a way for her to walk again? "
    they did did they not? she was offered the chance to walk but refused it, I did not read that but was told about it. 
      
     
     
    @Voidheart said:
    " You can still keep your legs somewhat in tact by sending nerval impulses towards them or with shock therapy. "
    and what he said.
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    #14  Edited By EnSabahNurX
    @Gambler:  They should just do what they did in the Birds of Prey TV series, put on a belt that taps into her spine to allow her to walk for certain periods of time
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    #15  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @Crom-Cruach said:
    " I'd would suggest reading the Batman story titled "the Chalice" from a few years back. In this story Bruce acquires the Holy Grail and finds out it does have the legendary healing properties ascribe to legend. He offers to Barbara to use the Grail to restore her legs. She refuses, saying it has something to do with her beliefs, thought she never says what those beliefs are that would stop her from wanting to be healed by the Holy Grail. "
    Using a "holy" relic is different then using modern day advances in technology and medical treatments. It doesn't necessarily mean she does not want to, or is not open to, walking again. That's more about the way in which it is done (in my opinion).
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    #16  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @.Mistress Redhead.:  I dont know. Not up on my Barbra history :P
     
    @EnSabahNurX: Dude, that's exactly what I was thinking before posting in here. I only watched one episode and it was when she used it to fight Shiva.
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    #17  Edited By Crom-Cruach
    @Gambler said:

    " Using a "holy" relic is different then using modern day advances in technology and medical treatments. It doesn't necessarily mean she does not want to, or is not open to, walking again. That's more about the way in which it is done (in my opinion). "

    Possible... I was just pointing out a specific instance when she could have walked again but refused and the reason why given in that story. Explanations are few in the comics to why this situation persists.
     
    Considering the world she lives in, the only thing actually stopping her is author fiat and a vague in-universe explanation about her refusing for unspecified reasons. I mean considering who she hangs out with. She could likely not only walk but be taken to a level of physical power beyond anything she ever had.
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    @Gambler: I cant find the scan, but i am certain i have seen somewhere that she was offered a cure.. hmm
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    #19  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @Crom-Cruach said:
    " @Gambler said:
    " Using a "holy" relic is different then using modern day advances in technology and medical treatments. It doesn't necessarily mean she does not want to, or is not open to, walking again. That's more about the way in which it is done (in my opinion). "
    Possible... I was just pointing out a specific instance when she could have walked again and the reason why given in that story. Explanations are few in the comics to why this situation persists.  Considering the world she lives in, the only thing actually stopping her is author fiat and a vague in-universe explanation about her refusing for unspecified reasons. I mean considering who she hangs out with. She could likely not only walk but be taken to a level of physical power beyond anything she ever had. "
    Agreed.
     
     @.Mistress Redhead. said:
    " @Gambler: I cant find the scan, but i am certain i have seen somewhere that she was offered a cure.. hmm "

    Besides the "Holy Grail" incident?
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    #20  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

    Ya Babs did get her legs back for a while and went to show Dick and he was with Starfire and she was just like what's the point and decided to go back in the chair in the Oracle persona if she can't have Dick

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    #21  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @Son_of_Magnus said:
    " Ya Babs did get her legs back for a while and went to show Dick and he was with Starfire and she was just like what's the point and decided to go back in the chair in the Oracle persona if she can't have Dick "
    Nice. Do you remember what issue/comic this took place in?
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    #22  Edited By warlock360
    @Son_of_Magnus said:
    " Ya Babs did get her legs back for a while and went to show Dick and he was with Starfire and she was just like what's the point and decided to go back in the chair in the Oracle persona if she can't have Dick "
    INNUENDO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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    #23  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
    @Gambler said:
    " @Son_of_Magnus said:
    " Ya Babs did get her legs back for a while and went to show Dick and he was with Starfire and she was just like what's the point and decided to go back in the chair in the Oracle persona if she can't have Dick "
    Nice. Do you remember what issue/comic this took place in? "
    You'll have to give me a minute to go scrummaging through my back issues but it was either BoP or Nightwing I'll keep you posted
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    #24  Edited By DEGRAAF
    @Son_of_Magnus said:
    " @Gambler said:
    " @Son_of_Magnus said:
    " Ya Babs did get her legs back for a while and went to show Dick and he was with Starfire and she was just like what's the point and decided to go back in the chair in the Oracle persona if she can't have Dick "
    Nice. Do you remember what issue/comic this took place in? "
    You'll have to give me a minute to go scrummaging through my back issues but it was either BoP or Nightwing I'll keep you posted "

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    #25  Edited By The_Ghostshell

    Cool scan (still trying to find what issue :P)

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    #26  Edited By DEGRAAF

    i didnt realize this was after she became paralyzed tho. from reading it it seems more like something that happened before the accident and they are talking about it afterwards

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    #27  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
    @DEGRAAF said:
    " i didnt realize this was after she became paralyzed tho "
    you know I think it may have been a flashback I am going to have to re read the issue when I find it but I do know she also was given some sort of cybernetic suit built by Ted Kord IIRC
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    #28  Edited By DEGRAAF
    @Son_of_Magnus: 
     
    Im thinking it was a flashback also
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    #29  Edited By EnSabahNurX

     

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    #30  Edited By Dracade102

    I Say she should get one of those Power-Suits that Batman Wore in Kingdom Come---When He Was crippled...
    I Can't Stand to see such a character with such bad luck...
     

     
     
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    #31  Edited By fACEmelter88

    A lot of good ideas her but her spinal cord injury could be incomplete or complete. Complete meaning that NO messages from her brain will pass the injury her looks to be maybe L-2 maybe even L-4 so thats pretty low meaning thats why she has such great balance. If her injury is incomplete who knows what she is capable of since the cord is not completely severed meaning neural (not nerval Voidheart) messages to her legs and that could be why Deadman during Blackest Night got her to move so well. I'm not sure about her history tho just know a bunch about spinal cord injuries. Though her leg muscles would atrophy or deteriorate they would still keep their mass (thats how it goes sometime). Soooo yea......

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    #32  Edited By geraldthesloth

    Because being in a wheel chair is some serious character development

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    #33  Edited By Crom-Cruach
    @geraldthesloth said:
    " Because being in a wheel chair is some serious character development "
    Only when it makes sense and it actually goes somewhere and doesn't stop character devellopment. The big problem is in the DC universe, especially with a member of the bat family. It doesn't. She could have gone through a whole arc to relearn to walk, fight, etc. But as a permanent state, there is absolutely no reason. 
    She knows people who could give her back her legs just by whispering a few words and twirling their fingers, she knows people who could literally rip on her broken spine and replace it with a superior cybernetic one that could make her as potent as Deathstroke in H2H. The only reason she is still in a wheel chair is because the writers want her in that chair.
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    #34  Edited By warlock360
    @fACEmelter88: what i meant ;p couldn't find the word LOL
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    #35  Edited By geraldthesloth
    @Crom-Cruach: It was sarcasm, I think barbra gordon is useless now anyways.
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    #36  Edited By warlock360
    @geraldthesloth: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
     
    wait for it you gonna get hauled ass for that one by somebody LOL
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    #37  Edited By geraldthesloth
    @Voidheart: Hauled ass?..by Gordon's tires? they should put rockets on the back of her wheel chair..that would make her interesting.
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    @Son_of_Magnus said:
    " Ya Babs did get her legs back for a while and went to show Dick and he was with Starfire and she was just like what's the point and decided to go back in the chair in the Oracle persona if she can't have Dick "
    really? what was that in? do you have the scan? 
     
    @Gambler: NO, I read that one, I am sure that I read that some agency offered her a cure... but it could be a dream unless SOM can show us the scan!
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    #39  Edited By lorex

    Of course the technology in the DCU exists the allow her the use of her legs. There are any number of technology or magic that could facilitate that. Its been shown with other characters. Its an editorial decision
    to keep her in the chair, plain and simple. I would be willing to bet if she was killed when the Joker shot her she would have already returned from the grave by now.

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    #40  Edited By Bestostero
    @lorex said:
    " I would be willing to bet if she was killed when the Joker shot her she would have already returned from the grave by now. "
    Very true, she needs to be able to walk again, its really over due...
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