@The Stegman said:
It seems that Gail basically turned New 52 Babs into Steph if you ask me.
steph didnt whine that much
I think Babs is a better character than Stephanie, but I like all of the Batgirls.
DC should bring them all back as:
Babs = Oracle
Cass = Batgirl
Steph = Spoiler
None of them need to be exactly like they were Pre New 52, but they all had established roles and worked well together, making Babs Batgirl again and tossing the rest in limbo is not an improvement. If they want to have Babs active again give her a dual identity with a different name in the field.
All 3 characters have a fanbase to support a Batgirl title, not using two of them while DC cancels dead weight over and over is bad business
I prefer Barbara as a character to Stephanie as a character. But I prefer Stephanie as Batgirl to Barbara as Batgirl.
Regardless, I wish DC would put her back in action. Spoiler, Robin, Batgirl, I don't care which. But it's been far too long since we last saw her.
I liked Steph alot. She was not very fit for the role, but it was a process of growth and she was really getting the hang of it before they rebooted. I really enjoyed her run in Batgirl, and the crossover into Red Robin as well. To be honest, as much as I like Barbara as Batgirl, she needs to get shot in the spine again. We need Oracle back.
Cassandra Cain, Stephanie Brown and Oracle are my favourite characters in comics. But lets face it. None of them has appeared since the reboot. This new batgirl isn't the Barbara Gordon we've all come to love. She's to insecure in herself not to mention bland and broken. All in all she's just a horrible copy of Stephanie but without the charm and homour. Hopefully we'll one day see the three ladies fighting alongside each other again but somehow I doubt it, and that makes me really sad indeed.
This and this. Well said.
For one, she sells more so I have backing up!! :D And she's always been the one true Batgirl IMO! Not that there's anything wrong with her sucessors at all. They're cool! I just don't understand why people act as if Oracle and Batgirl Babs are different. They're not. It's not a step backwards at all. This isn't like Nightwing going back to being Robin. She was Oracle cause she was paralyzed and still wanted to be a hero in a way, not because she outgrew the role. Nightwing/Robin is so different from Oracle/Batgirl! Besides, being Batgirl doesn't stop the fact she was Oracle. Screw whatever the reboot does. Every character isn't as connected as before, anyway! She still was the best goddarn parapeligic hero evar! And now she's overcome it and kicking butt again! She can still be connected to every hero and be that brilliant and analytical woman that she is! But now, she can run to us and kick all of our A**** now! And get in on the real actions! To me, it's not all that different! It's like Nightwing =Robin = Dick Grayson. No matter what alias Barbra is, she's still herself! She can be Batman and I still think Barbara when I read her as such! >:D Nothing cannot convince me otherwise.
I love both. Both are in my top five favorite female characters. Pre new 52 I liked steph better as batgirl, and better overall. She had her own series that was pretty awesome, and simply did way more than Barbara. Barbara just giving batman info got boring sometimes. I prefer Barbara as batgirl than oracle, like in new 52. I don't know if Stephanie will be bat girl ever in new 52 but its too early to judge who is better. Also, new 52 Barbara is way better than her previous version, so that's a good start.
Barbara IS Batgirl...it's just that simple. It's not a mantle so much as an identity for her. You can see that in the way that the series shows her interactions with other characters. She's not being compared to someone, she's respected by her allies and enemies and she is definitely fierce in a fight. Batgirl isn't a role for her it's an identity she forged.
Stephanie is my favorite character....period. But she needed Batgirl, she needed that role of an partially independent hero to help her grow into a more independent person. Steph wasn't Batgirl she was A Batgirl. So when i think Batgirl my thought doesn't automatically go to her. it goes to Babs and what she makes the role out to be.
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