What the hell is this? has DC lost it's mind?screw the reboot.

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#1 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

They took the most horrible Bane design and brought it in to the world of comics.Batman:The Dark Knight is trash.How about making Bane look like an actual person instead of some retarded version of Hulk?not only that but they killed his complexity.No smart person would ever wear that moronic device on their back,and Bane never used his normal venom tubes after Knightfall since he considered them a weakness.God they've already screwed many batcharacters in this book(Damian,Harvey,Penguin,Joker,Bruce etc).The plot of the first arc was just a BTAS episode ripoff(the one where Penguin dated Veronica Vreeland),one of the next issues featurning Scarecrow seems like a Never Fear episode rioff.The designs of Croc and Penguin here were completly contradictory to their actual/consistent designs.It's like they are'nt even trying to be subtle.

Oh and Finch,draw something orignal.We don't need to see another cover where Bane breaks Bruce's back.Dan Luvisi had a MUCH better take on that a few months ago.Gimme some Bane by Simone,or Dixon or maybe someone like David Hine,Snyder or even Tomasi with Gleason or Graham Nolan on art duties.Not his CRAP.

#3 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

#4 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Adnan said:

@entropy_aegis: I didn't get to the end of Secret Six, something pretty drastic may very well have happened to him that I'm not aware of, but...what happened to all the characterization he got in that title? This sounds like they're turning him back into a street thug for Batman to beat up....

He was never a guy who used to get beat up by Bat's which is EXACTLY why i hate this so i disagree with using the word "back".His redemption happened in batbooks and so did him overcoming venom addiction(he only used venom for maybe 15 issues of his career).

Nothing that drastic happened in SS,Finch/Jenkins suck that's what is happening.

#5 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

LOL.

#6 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

The whole reboot sucks, not sure why you're surprised they'd ruin Bane too, mate. 

#7 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

The whole reboot sucks, not sure why you're surprised they'd ruin Bane too, mate.

I wanna murder someone.

#8 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Pretty poor choice stylistically, and venom is an overused plot-point. But given how well the book sells, I guess DC's plan in order to popularize the character, or, at the very least, familiarize a broader audience with him, could very well work.
 
I'm really hoping Bane won't simply be a dumb brute, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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#9 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: LOL, seriously i thought arkham city's design was bad but this is awful

#10 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Adnan said:

@entropy_aegis: I could've sworn he was no better than a street thug in some stories...maybe I'm mixing him up with someone else...

I think in every cartoon appearance the guy has had, he wears those tubes on his back, and Batman defeats him in the same way each time - by slicing the tubes. Maybe this book is supposed to appeal to those who have only watched the cartoons? Not an excuse for the story being so lame, but still...

Ignoring his appearences from the IC era ofcourse(where he was just guy in the background mostly).But otherwise no,Vengeance of Bane oneshots,Bane of the Demon,Legacy,Knightfall,JSA Classified,Angel and the Bane from Azreal,NML,Tabula rasa,Veritas Liberat etc were great Bane stories,SS continues his characterization from Veritas Liberat.

#11 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Pretty poor choice stylistically, and venom is an overused plot-point. But given how well the book sells, I guess DC's plan in order to popularize the character, or, at the very least, familiarize a broader audience with him, could very well work.

I'm really hoping Bane won't simply be a dumb brute, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

I don't think he'll be a brute,but he'll most certainly be slow/unskilled brick.That same month sees the release of Justice League:Doom and the Batman vs Bane TPB,hopefully it's just Finch screwing around and we'll get some decent Bane later.

The Deathstroke solicit was badass though.

#12 Posted by Dernman (15128 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like that type of Bane but I'm not surprised. They have used that type of bane several times in other forms like cartoons movies and such. 
I actually like a lot of the reboot even if there is a few thing that I don't. Are we sure that is going to be cannon? Maybe it's a misleading cover.

#13 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

I don't think he'll be a brute,but he'll most certainly be slow/unskilled brick.That same month sees the release of Justice League:Doom and the Batman vs Bane TPB,hopefully it's just Finch screwing around and we'll get some decent Bane later.

The Deathstroke solicit was badass though.

I'm more so buffled because they clearly acknowledge Knightfall, which means a series of things must have happened, at least in some capacity (which kinda makes me wonder about JPV, but I doubt it's their concern).
 
I liked it a lot, too.
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#14 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

I like this design and the one from the Arkham games as well... Don't kill me? Though I haven't read any of the batbooks since the reboot. Hell I haven't even read any batbook since the return of Bruce Wayne. Not to mention I haven't read any Bane issues post Knightfall. I may just have some naive view on things or something.

#15 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dernman said:

I don't like that type of Bane but I'm not surprised. They have used that type of bane several times in other forms like cartoons movies and such. I actually like a lot of the reboot even if there is a few thing that I don't. Are we sure that is going to be cannon? Maybe it's a misleading cover.

This book is bad,plain bad.So no i have no doubt that what we're seeing here is real.@Morpheus_ said:

@entropy_aegis said:

I don't think he'll be a brute,but he'll most certainly be slow/unskilled brick.That same month sees the release of Justice League:Doom and the Batman vs Bane TPB,hopefully it's just Finch screwing around and we'll get some decent Bane later.

The Deathstroke solicit was badass though.

I'm more so buffled because they clearly acknowledge Knightfall, which means a series of things must have happened, at least in some capacity (which kinda makes me wonder about JPV, but I doubt it's their concern).

I liked it a lot, too.

Maybe it's an effect of fear toxin,or maybe some moron hired by the real Bane.Yes i may have found a loophole.(Pray's Finch reads this).

#16 Posted by Afro_Warrior (1120 posts) - - Show Bio

This is what you get when you let David Finch write DC!!!

#17 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

I like this design and the one from the Arkham games as well... Don't kill me? Though I haven't read any of the batbooks since the reboot. Hell I haven't even read any batbook since the return of Bruce Wayne. Not to mention I haven't read any Bane issues post Knightfall. I may just have some naive view on things or something.

KILL YOU.

#18 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: I like the design from Dark Knight Rises. Does that spare me? Nyehehehehe!

#19 Posted by PowerHerc (84035 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: You're right. Bane does look like a retarded version of the Hulk now.

#20 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

@entropy_aegis: I like the design from Dark Knight Rises. Does that spare me? Nyehehehehe!

SPARE YOU.

#21 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

Responses on CBR and DC boards have been negative too,if Finch and Jenkins have half a brain among themselves then they're gonna reconsider.

#22 Posted by The_Tree (7491 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: If DC had half a brain, they wouldn't put this on shelves.

Batman: The Dark Knight sucks.

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#23 Edited by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

There might be some hope,if you'd all look at Bane's gauntlets then you'd notice it say's Finch with respect to Kelley Jones.Now Jones was the cover artist of the batbooks back in the late 80's,early 90's.His covers were rather atrocious,since he too exagerrated his characters.

Hopefully this is just a tribute.

#24 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1672 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Sorry, I'm a little bit confused here. Knightfall happened or not in this universe? And you took this picture from where exactly? Sorry...

#25 Posted by cattlebattle (12790 posts) - - Show Bio

HAHA

#26 Posted by War Killer (20223 posts) - - Show Bio

Am I the only one who actually likes this redesign?

#27 Posted by Mayo88m (246 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys may not like this design, but it's a safe bet for DC. It's the closest look that everyone is familiar with. When the regular person thinks of Bane, they think of that picture (if they even know who Bane is.) Besides, I don't think the design is that bad really. It's actually pretty cool looking, and who says just because he looks like that he can't be just as brilliant and cunning as ever. Give it a chance.

#28 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay guys lets calm down don't judge a book by it's cover

#29 Posted by 218Comics (191 posts) - - Show Bio

I am quite confused why this was brought into the New 52, especially as a reboot idea.

#30 Posted by CATPANEXE (9368 posts) - - Show Bio

I just see a cover and one that's designed clearly as a hat tip to another infamous one in Banes history.

Generally speaking I haven't had many experience's with DCnU where the cover art played out as drastically

in the books interior and story. We'll see then. Personally if they retain his character development I don't think

I'll mind the look.

#31 Posted by daredevil21134 (11860 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Sorry Bro

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#32 Posted by vandinejd_1991 (298 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I don't care if you guys will want to slit my throat after this comment I'll say it anyway. I like the picture

#33 Posted by The Stegman (24480 posts) - - Show Bio
#34 Posted by jrock85 (2874 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: I'll reserve judgement for now because covers can be misleading. I'm just glad Bane's not in limbo.

#35 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Phaedrusgr said:

@entropy_aegis: Sorry, I'm a little bit confused here. Knightfall happened or not in this universe? And you took this picture from where exactly? Sorry...

It's cover art for Batman:The Dark Knight #6(late February 2012)

@Mayo88m said:

You guys may not like this design, but it's a safe bet for DC. It's the closest look that everyone is familiar with. When the regular person thinks of Bane, they think of that picture (if they even know who Bane is.) Besides, I don't think the design is that bad really. It's actually pretty cool looking, and who says just because he looks like that he can't be just as brilliant and cunning as ever. Give it a chance.

What about Hardy?his look is a bazillion times better than this crap and he's gonna make the character more famous than ever,that very month sees the release of Justice League :Doom and the Batman vs Bane TPB(collects Bane of the Demon and the Bane oneshot).Tell me what smart or sane person would wear those things(for lack of a better term).Regardless he can be the new Metron and it would still suck.Making him a generic criminal mastermind who pulls the strings from behind means squat,it's lame and overused.Bane is a guy who trained his mind and body to perfection,he's not a smart Hulk.He's a twisted Batman or Cap America type figure.

@BlackArmor said:

Okay guys lets calm down don't judge a book by it's cover

Nope i can safely state that whatever we see in the cover will also be seen in the interiors,take a look at this books history.It's CRAP,the only 2 way's Finch might change his mind are as follows:

1)DC stops him.

2)He sees this thread.

Both are highly unlikely,this book is Finch's personal fantasy.Why do you think DC gave it to him?

@218Comics said:

I am quite confused why this was brought into the New 52, especially as a reboot idea.

Secret Six was cancelled thanks to the reboot.@jrock85 said:

@entropy_aegis: I'll reserve judgement for now because covers can be misleading. I'm just glad Bane's not in limbo.

Character assasination> Limbo.

#36 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

Either way if DC does turn Bane in to lame Hulk wannabe then the Bane character is gonna lose a long time fan.I'll prolly start investing more in Deathstroke,Punisher and Wolverine.

This is what Batman thinks.

#37 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33486 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mayo88m said:

You guys may not like this design, but it's a safe bet for DC. It's the closest look that everyone is familiar with. When the regular person thinks of Bane, they think of that picture (if they even know who Bane is.) Besides, I don't think the design is that bad really. It's actually pretty cool looking, and who says just because he looks like that he can't be just as brilliant and cunning as ever. Give it a chance.

yea people are blowing this way out of proportion 
#38 Edited by KingofMadCows (345 posts) - - Show Bio

More than 2 million copies of Arkham City have been sold. More than 4 million copies of Arkham Asylum were sold. This is what Bane looks like in those games:

Is the change really that surprising?

#39 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@KingofMadCows said:

More than 2 million copies of Arkham City have been sold. More than 4 million copies of Arkham Asylum were sold. This is what Bane looks like in those games:

Is the change really that surprising?

Sadly i think you might me right,it's disappointing nonetheless.DC thinks short term spike in sales equals success.They'll be back to where they were at this time next year with even more disgruntled fans.

By the way most good video games would sell that much anyway,it's not fair to compare comics with movies,games etc,while i would'nt be surprised if someone in DC actually compares the figures across the various mediums but it's still a stupid comparision.

#40 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87 said:

@Mayo88m said:

You guys may not like this design, but it's a safe bet for DC. It's the closest look that everyone is familiar with. When the regular person thinks of Bane, they think of that picture (if they even know who Bane is.) Besides, I don't think the design is that bad really. It's actually pretty cool looking, and who says just because he looks like that he can't be just as brilliant and cunning as ever. Give it a chance.

yea people are blowing this way out of proportion

If Bruce starts fighting crime wearing his underwear what do you think people are gonna say?Fans of the character like myself,Morpheus,K4tz etc know there is something wrong with this design,but others who have most likely never read Bane outside of Knightfall,maybe SS or maybe NML are ofcourse gonna think it's all lovely.

#41 Posted by Billy Batson (58031 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh no.

BB

#42 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33486 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@Mayo88m said:

You guys may not like this design, but it's a safe bet for DC. It's the closest look that everyone is familiar with. When the regular person thinks of Bane, they think of that picture (if they even know who Bane is.) Besides, I don't think the design is that bad really. It's actually pretty cool looking, and who says just because he looks like that he can't be just as brilliant and cunning as ever. Give it a chance.

yea people are blowing this way out of proportion

If Bruce starts fighting crime wearing his underwear what do you think people are gonna say?Fans of the character like myself,Morpheus,K4tz etc know there is something wrong with this design,but others who have most likely never read Bane outside of Knightfall,maybe SS or maybe NML are ofcourse gonna think it's all lovely.

You've seen one cover art thats a homage to a past one and from that your acting like Bane's had a complete make over to a mindless thug, how can you tell all this from one cover? It doesn't describe his personalty and it doesn't necessarily mean that's what Bane will actually look like.
#43 Edited by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87 said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@Mayo88m said:

You guys may not like this design, but it's a safe bet for DC. It's the closest look that everyone is familiar with. When the regular person thinks of Bane, they think of that picture (if they even know who Bane is.) Besides, I don't think the design is that bad really. It's actually pretty cool looking, and who says just because he looks like that he can't be just as brilliant and cunning as ever. Give it a chance.

yea people are blowing this way out of proportion

If Bruce starts fighting crime wearing his underwear what do you think people are gonna say?Fans of the character like myself,Morpheus,K4tz etc know there is something wrong with this design,but others who have most likely never read Bane outside of Knightfall,maybe SS or maybe NML are ofcourse gonna think it's all lovely.

You've seen one cover art thats a homage to a past one and from that your acting like Bane's had a complete make over to a mindless thug, how can you tell all this from one cover? It doesn't describe his personalty and it doesn't necessarily mean that's what Bane will actually look like.

No i have read this book,i know what it's like.Two-face was a retarded monster called Oneface,Killer Croc visual appearence was reverted his classic look without any explanation(before the reboot),Penguin had the Danny Devito look.Joker was an abomination.The previous volume(which lasted only 5 issues before getting renumbered HAHA) took elements from a BTAS episode,one of the next few issues seems to be doing the same.This new arc looks like like it's Arkham Asulum/city brought in to the comicworld.Retardd Bane,check,huge monsters check,etc.All this boo has done is flatout recycle Batman stories from the games,movies(Dawn Golden/Rachel Dawes anyone?),toons etc.

My rants are perfectly justified.

That Knightfall cover was made by Joe Kelley,how about posting the interior by Jim Aparo which was vastly different?

This cover was made by David Finch,that IS his design since he's gonna be doing the interiors as well.

#44 Posted by Saren (25685 posts) - - Show Bio

*facepalm*

This is....just.....no. NO.

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#45 Posted by Yumulu (762 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see what the fuss is all about it is a homage cover minus a T-Rex.

#46 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33486 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@Mayo88m said:

You guys may not like this design, but it's a safe bet for DC. It's the closest look that everyone is familiar with. When the regular person thinks of Bane, they think of that picture (if they even know who Bane is.) Besides, I don't think the design is that bad really. It's actually pretty cool looking, and who says just because he looks like that he can't be just as brilliant and cunning as ever. Give it a chance.

yea people are blowing this way out of proportion

If Bruce starts fighting crime wearing his underwear what do you think people are gonna say?Fans of the character like myself,Morpheus,K4tz etc know there is something wrong with this design,but others who have most likely never read Bane outside of Knightfall,maybe SS or maybe NML are ofcourse gonna think it's all lovely.

You've seen one cover art thats a homage to a past one and from that your acting like Bane's had a complete make over to a mindless thug, how can you tell all this from one cover? It doesn't describe his personalty and it doesn't necessarily mean that's what Bane will actually look like.

No i have read this book,i know what it's like.Two-face was a retarded monster called Oneface,Killer Croc visual appearence was reverted his classic look without any explanation(before the reboot),Penguin had the Danny Devito look.Joker was an abomination.The previous volume(which lasted only 5 issues before getting renumbered HAHA) took elements from a BTAS episode,one of the next few issues seems to be doing the same.This new arc looks like like it's Arkham Asulum/city brought in to the comicworld.Retardd Bane,check,huge monsters check,etc.All this boo has done is flatout recycle Batman stories from the games,movies(Dawn Golden/Rachel Dawes anyone?),toons etc.

My rants are perfectly justified.

That Knightfall cover was made by Joe Kelley,how about posting the interior by Jim Aparo which was vastly different?

This cover was made by David Finch,that IS his design since he's gonna be doing the interiors as well.

Even if that is so he's only going to be in the book for an arc or so then he'll get left alone and one of the other bat books will feature him and he'll be written properly 
#47 Posted by KingofMadCows (345 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

Sadly i think you might me right,it's disappointing nonetheless.DC thinks short term spike in sales equals success.They'll be back to where they were at this time next year with even more disgruntled fans.

By the way most good video games would sell that much anyway,it's not fair to compare comics with movies,games etc,while i would'nt be surprised if someone in DC actually compares the figures across the various mediums but it's still a stupid comparision.

But by next year Dark Knight Rises will be out and they'll probably make Bane much smaller to match the movie.

I'm actually surprised that they didn't make more changes earlier. Those millions of people who bought Arkham Asylum and went to see the Nolan films are all potential new customers for the comics. WB/DC could have done a lot more to get them into the comics. They could have done a free comic with the purchase of Arkham Asylum or discount on comics with Batman Begins/Dark Knight ticket stub.

#48 Posted by entropy_aegis (15329 posts) - - Show Bio

@KingofMadCows said:

@entropy_aegis said:

Sadly i think you might me right,it's disappointing nonetheless.DC thinks short term spike in sales equals success.They'll be back to where they were at this time next year with even more disgruntled fans.

By the way most good video games would sell that much anyway,it's not fair to compare comics with movies,games etc,while i would'nt be surprised if someone in DC actually compares the figures across the various mediums but it's still a stupid comparision.

But by next year Dark Knight Rises will be out and they'll probably make Bane much smaller to match the movie.

I'm actually surprised that they didn't make more changes earlier. Those millions of people who bought Arkham Asylum and went to see the Nolan films are all potential new customers for the comics. WB/DC could have done a lot more to get them into the comics. They could have done a free comic with the purchase of Arkham Asylum or discount on comics with Batman Begins/Dark Knight ticket stub.

Good thing,AA and AC were average when it comes to story and characterization IMO.

@Yumulu said:

I don't see what the fuss is all about it is a homage cover minus a T-Rex.

I guess you did'nt see the octopus on Bane's back or the straps on his torso or the stupid collar.

@spiderbat87 said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@spiderbat87 said:

@Mayo88m said:

You guys may not like this design, but it's a safe bet for DC. It's the closest look that everyone is familiar with. When the regular person thinks of Bane, they think of that picture (if they even know who Bane is.) Besides, I don't think the design is that bad really. It's actually pretty cool looking, and who says just because he looks like that he can't be just as brilliant and cunning as ever. Give it a chance.

yea people are blowing this way out of proportion

If Bruce starts fighting crime wearing his underwear what do you think people are gonna say?Fans of the character like myself,Morpheus,K4tz etc know there is something wrong with this design,but others who have most likely never read Bane outside of Knightfall,maybe SS or maybe NML are ofcourse gonna think it's all lovely.

You've seen one cover art thats a homage to a past one and from that your acting like Bane's had a complete make over to a mindless thug, how can you tell all this from one cover? It doesn't describe his personalty and it doesn't necessarily mean that's what Bane will actually look like.

No i have read this book,i know what it's like.Two-face was a retarded monster called Oneface,Killer Croc visual appearence was reverted his classic look without any explanation(before the reboot),Penguin had the Danny Devito look.Joker was an abomination.The previous volume(which lasted only 5 issues before getting renumbered HAHA) took elements from a BTAS episode,one of the next few issues seems to be doing the same.This new arc looks like like it's Arkham Asulum/city brought in to the comicworld.Retardd Bane,check,huge monsters check,etc.All this boo has done is flatout recycle Batman stories from the games,movies(Dawn Golden/Rachel Dawes anyone?),toons etc.

My rants are perfectly justified.

That Knightfall cover was made by Joe Kelley,how about posting the interior by Jim Aparo which was vastly different?

This cover was made by David Finch,that IS his design since he's gonna be doing the interiors as well.

Even if that is so he's only going to be in the book for an arc or so then he'll get left alone and one of the other bat books will feature him and he'll be written properly

Bad writing or mischaracterizaation should never be excused.I have been told that Jenkins has gone on record as to say that he's writing the characters based on perception,FAIL,even Judd Winick is better than that.

#49 Posted by Inga_TheLabAssistant (2 posts) - - Show Bio

@KingofMadCows said:

More than 2 million copies of Arkham City have been sold. More than 4 million copies of Arkham Asylum were sold. This is what Bane looks like in those games:

Is the change really that surprising?

He vould have an enormous schwanzstucker!

#50 Posted by ITS_FRONKENSTEEN (3 posts) - - Show Bio

@Inga: That goes without saying.

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