I was confused... did he die or not?
Bane
Character » Bane appears in 1056 issues.
Born sentenced to life in prison for the crimes of his father, the boy who would be come Bane learned that the strong survive, and the strongest become king. Forging himself into the pinnacle of physical and mental potential and becoming "king" of his prison, he learned of the Batman, "king" of Gotham City . Escaping and studying his quarry, Bane challenged and defeated Batman, becoming known as "The Man Who Broke the Bat".
Bane's fate at the end of TDR(major spoilers)
The ending was perfect.
By the time Catwoman shot Bane using the Batmobile's cannon, the villain of the film had shifted. He was revealed to be nothing more than a glorified bodyguard by that time, as such, a massive focus on his death given everything else that had to be tied up was unnecessary.
Nolan's also left the fate of every major villain open (R'as Al Ghul, Two-Face, Joker) so far in the trilogy. The only villain to apparently die on screen was Talia. Nolan likes to leave things to the viewer's interpretation.
@Gambler: i thought so to but can you see Bruce hanging up the cowl knowing that bane was still out there?
My biggest problem with the end was the "Hey look over here" approach to the Talia reveal, followed by her dying like 2 minutes later.
@moywar700 said:
Does anybody felt he death was handled poorly.Talk about deus ex-machina!Catwoman barraged in with her motorcyle and shoot bane, it happened way to fast.what are your thoughts?
How else was he supposed to die? Get crushed by a meteor? Maybe go with the cliche, his own bomb kills him? His death was good enough and it's not dues ex-machina.
Yeah, it really didn't make any sense for Bane not to see or hear Selena crash into the room with the Bat Pod.
I felt his death was handled masterfully, it wasn't perfect but within the confines of the established movie timeline it couldn't have gotten much better
they ruined bane's character at the end all so they could get a twist. besides none of the other villians died in a clear way
@John Valentine said:
The ending was perfect.
By the time Catwoman shot Bane using the Batmobile's cannon, the villain of the film had shifted. He was revealed to be nothing more than a glorified bodyguard by that time, as such, a massive focus on his death given everything else that had to be tied up was unnecessary.
Nolan's also left the fate of every major villain open (R'as Al Ghul, Two-Face, Joker) so far in the trilogy. The only villain to apparently die on screen was Talia. Nolan likes to leave things to the viewer's interpretation.
Huh? Ra's and Dent are dead.Nothing ambiguous about that.
@Blood1991 said:
The last 20 minutes of the movie disapointed me greatly.
I'd argue maybe even the last thirty. Bruce got back to Gotham with no ID, no money and no transport. His healing from a severe spinal injury and magically regrowing the cartilage in his knees? Complete crap.
Not to mention that the Talia reveals timing made no sense, I mean what had she gained from pretending to still be Miranda and hanging out with the resistance?
I think he's absolutely dead. Also, did anyone else find it odd that the cannons usually generate a large explosion, yet when fired next to Batman the blast radius is conveniently smaller?
Also, did anyone else notice it went from mid-day to late night during the 8 minutes the program was downloading? (the stock exchange heist) Furthermore, during the large battle, Batman used the cannons (from "the bat") to disable the turret on one of the tumblers, but what about the other two? At first I thought "maybe he used an EMP and disabled all of the vehicles?" but during the 2nd and 3rd viewing, it was clear he used the cannon to disable just that one before flying away. But then during a wide shot all three of the tumblers are smoking from damage, but I don't know how their cannons were disabled. Did anyone else catch this?
Not trying to bash the film (I've seen it 3 times now) and enjoyed it a good deal, but I do have a fair share of complaints. Also, I didn't see this being discussed anywhere else.
@k4tzm4n: Personally, I was wondering what happened to Scarecrow. He was the one villain that lived.
@k4tzm4n said:
I think he's absolutely dead. Also, did anyone else find it odd that the cannons usually generate a large explosion, yet when fired next to Batman the blast radius is conveniently smaller?
Also, did anyone else notice it went from mid-day to late night during the 8 minutes the program was downloading? (the stock exchange heist) Furthermore, during the large battle, Batman used the cannons (from "the bat") to disable the turret on one of the tumblers, but what about the other two? At first I thought "maybe he used an EMP and disabled all of the vehicles?" but during the 2nd and 3rd viewing, it was clear he used the cannon to disable just that one before flying away. But then during a wide shot all three of the tumblers are smoking from damage, but I don't know how their cannons were disabled. Did anyone else catch this?
Not trying to bash the film (I've seen it 3 times now) and enjoyed it a good deal, but I do have a fair share of complaints. Also, I didn't see this being discussed anywhere else.
idk but nice insights.
@Pwok21 said:
@Blood1991 said:
The last 20 minutes of the movie disapointed me greatly.
I'd argue maybe even the last thirty. Bruce got back to Gotham with no ID, no money and no transport. His healing from a severe spinal injury and magically regrowing the cartilage in his knees? Complete crap.
Not to mention that the Talia reveals timing made no sense, I mean what had she gained from pretending to still be Miranda and hanging out with the resistance?
I thought she was trying to keep an eye on them, but that could have been a little better handled too, and yes Batman coming back magically all healed bugged me greatly.
@k4tzm4n said:
I think he's absolutely dead. Also, did anyone else find it odd that the cannons usually generate a large explosion, yet when fired next to Batman the blast radius is conveniently smaller?
Also, did anyone else notice it went from mid-day to late night during the 8 minutes the program was downloading? (the stock exchange heist) Furthermore, during the large battle, Batman used the cannons (from "the bat") to disable the turret on one of the tumblers, but what about the other two? At first I thought "maybe he used an EMP and disabled all of the vehicles?" but during the 2nd and 3rd viewing, it was clear he used the cannon to disable just that one before flying away. But then during a wide shot all three of the tumblers are smoking from damage, but I don't know how their cannons were disabled. Did anyone else catch this?
Not trying to bash the film (I've seen it 3 times now) and enjoyed it a good deal, but I do have a fair share of complaints. Also, I didn't see this being discussed anywhere else.
Yeah I thought all that was a little weird to, also the first night Blake goes out in bat gear he is going to get slaughtered.
@Pwok21 said:
Not to mention that the Talia reveals timing made no sense, I mean what had she gained from pretending to still be Miranda and hanging out with the resistance?
I think it made pretty good sense. Bane had revealed that the bomb's detonator was in the hands of a civilian (still playing with the concept of giving the people of Gotham a little bit of hope knowing that it will inevitably be crushed). If Miranda revealed herself to be Talia earlier it would've been made obvious that she, being the mastermind, held the detonator. Furthermore, how could she get a good stab in Batman had she revealed her identity sooner?
As for Bane's death; it probably could've been handled better but it wasn't horrible. We got to see Batman take him down earlier.
@entropy_aegis said:
@John Valentine said:
The ending was perfect.
By the time Catwoman shot Bane using the Batmobile's cannon, the villain of the film had shifted. He was revealed to be nothing more than a glorified bodyguard by that time, as such, a massive focus on his death given everything else that had to be tied up was unnecessary.
Nolan's also left the fate of every major villain open (R'as Al Ghul, Two-Face, Joker) so far in the trilogy. The only villain to apparently die on screen was Talia. Nolan likes to leave things to the viewer's interpretation.
Huh? Ra's and Dent are dead.Nothing ambiguous about that.
As in, their deaths were confirmed in the sequels.
@SupBatz said:
@Pwok21 said:
Not to mention that the Talia reveals timing made no sense, I mean what had she gained from pretending to still be Miranda and hanging out with the resistance?
I think it made pretty good sense. Bane had revealed that the bomb's detonator was in the hands of a civilian (still playing with the concept of giving the people of Gotham a little bit of hope knowing that it will inevitably be crushed). If Miranda revealed herself to be Talia earlier it would've been made obvious that she, being the mastermind, held the detonator. Furthermore, how could she get a good stab in Batman had she revealed her identity sooner?
As for Bane's death; it probably could've been handled better but it wasn't horrible. We got to see Batman take him down earlier.
Or there could have been no detonator and it would be strictly on timer as a complete red herring. So Batman attempts to get to her and she reveals that by the time he's got to her to stop the remote detonation it is too late to stop the bomb. I would have liked that more, and Batman's handling of Bane seemed kind of dumb, like the mask was implemented just to give Batman an edge on an opponent that he couldn't otherwise beat.
@Omega Ray Jay said:
@k4tzm4n said:
I think he's absolutely dead. Also, did anyone else find it odd that the cannons usually generate a large explosion, yet when fired next to Batman the blast radius is conveniently smaller?
Also, did anyone else notice it went from mid-day to late night during the 8 minutes the program was downloading? (the stock exchange heist) Furthermore, during the large battle, Batman used the cannons (from "the bat") to disable the turret on one of the tumblers, but what about the other two? At first I thought "maybe he used an EMP and disabled all of the vehicles?" but during the 2nd and 3rd viewing, it was clear he used the cannon to disable just that one before flying away. But then during a wide shot all three of the tumblers are smoking from damage, but I don't know how their cannons were disabled. Did anyone else catch this?
Not trying to bash the film (I've seen it 3 times now) and enjoyed it a good deal, but I do have a fair share of complaints. Also, I didn't see this being discussed anywhere else.
Yeah I thought all that was a little weird to, also the first night Blake goes out in bat gear he is going to get slaughtered.
Agreed. I get why Nolan had that ending, but Bruce leaving "Robin" behind with all of that gear at his disposal is completely irresponsible. Blake lacks the training and experience Wayne had to go through and even then, Wayne struggled greatly through the films. Regardless, Blake's motiviation in combination with that gear makes it obvious he's going to take up the mantle one way or another... and unfortunately for him, I sincerely doubt he has the talent to survive. One could speculate that Wayne would come back to train him, but, in the end, it's really nothing more than just that: speculation. Personally, I felt as though Wayne and Kyle left Gotham for good and... you know, lived happily ever after.
"WHERe'S THE TRIGGER! WHERE'S THE TRIGGER! WHERE'S THE TRIGGER!"
In all seriousness, his brief and unceremonious death really undermined everything he did prior to that moment. Bane was clearly Batman's intellectual equal and obviously physically superior. The only reason Batman was able to conquer him at the end was because he had been training for what seemed like months in that pit. They had built him up to be what Batman would have been had he adopted the opposite moral code.
I was fine with Bane being Talia's protector. He's a cool villain but there had to be another mastermind behind something that big. But protector, lackey, whatever you want to call him, he deserved a better end than that. This guy was literally unstoppable for 90% of the film and then he gets taken out in 1 milisecond by a rocket. If that was Bane's weakness, WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST SHOOT HIM WHEN THEY ESCAPED ON "THE BAT" IN THE BEGINNING OF THE FILM?
I'm going to watch it again when it comes out on home release and just watch all of his scenes over again because he really made the film for me.
I personally don't think he died - it's not like you saw his body or any other irrefutable proof that he was killed. Sure he got shot with a cannon but he's a walking tank! I think it was left open ended and if there are any spin off movies, he would be able to make another appearance.
@k4tzm4n said:
@TDK_1997 said:
Bane's fate wasn't good and so was Talia's but the ending was great and I loved it.
It's just too bad the acting for her death was laughable...
I just lol'd when she finally shuts her eyes.
@k4tzm4n: Well in this case there is one thing about the sequel we know for sure, its going to be a short ;)
@entropy_aegis said:
@k4tzm4n said:
@TDK_1997 said:
Bane's fate wasn't good and so was Talia's but the ending was great and I loved it.
It's just too bad the acting for her death was laughable...
I just lol'd when she finally shuts her eyes.
The death of Talia was indeed funny and was more like parody but it still didn't manage to ruin the movie for me.
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