Bane 101 (Mandatory for Bane n00bs)

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#1 Edited by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

There seems to be a lot of confusion surrounding the popular DC Comics villain Bane. Some seem to believe he's this large brute who can throw down with heavy hitters like Thing or Superman, while others believe he's a total idiot with no skill. Thankfully, he's neither. The following are key points about (pre-New 52) Bane that everyone should know:

-Intellect-He does indeed have genius level intellect and a photographic memory. This doesn't mean he can read moves like Taskmaster, but he has memorized complete pages of of text from a dead language. He's smart, not an idiot like many forms of media have passed off.

-Skill-He is indeed skilled. How skilled? He's not as good as Batman, but he's by no means far behind, either. Bane has given Batman numerous good fights, as well as held his own against the likes of Jean Paul Valley and swiftly defeated Dick Grayson twice. He's good, but he's not a top 5 kind of guy by any measure.

-Venom-His best feats are off venom. Off venom, it can be disputed Bane physically falls under the peak human-enhanced human range. Bane was literally only on venom during the Knightfall saga and more recently, twice during Gail Simone's Secret Six. The Knightfall levels of venom increase his muscle mass, therefore granting low level superhuman strength (speculated at the 2 ton range max), increased pain tolerance, and with large muscle mass naturally comes a slightly improved durability level.

-Speed-He's not slow and/or clumsy. He's reacted before police could pull the trigger, dodged numerous batarangs, blocked arrows, etc. He has no feats on par with the likes of Daredevil (blocking/cutting bullets), but he has plenty that place him in the peak human range in that regard.

-"Broke the Bat!-Saying "he broke the Bat" holds no actual weight in a debate. It's not difficult to understand what went down in Knightfall, but somehow the mass majority skew it out of proportion. It's simple, Bane wanted to fully defeat Batman, both body and mind. By forcing Batman to face a virtually endless gauntlet, it forced Batman to an all-time low point in terms of physical condition and the mental toll of the event had its own weight, too. When he knew Batman was at his weakest, Bane stepped in to end it. He didn't believe he couldn't beat Batman otherwise, but it was to add insult to injury. His end game plan, if you will. So, please remember that unless Bane has prep and access to his opponents rogue's gallery, the phrase means nothing.

-For Forum Use-For matches, please realize Bane is not going to beat characters like Wolverine, even if he's on venom. Bane is a solid street level combatant, but he's not close to being one of the biggest threats in that roster. Off venom, he can have amazing fights with Batman, but ultimately it's one he isn't going to take a majority. On venom, it could be disputed otherwise. Please keep that in mind when making matches for him.

New 52 Bane

  • Retains his hatred for Batman.
  • Appears to be stronger than before (increase in size, sends Batman flying with strikes, able to overhead throw a large boulder)
  • Durrability/pain tolerance is still impressive, was able to quickly recover from an electric attack by Batman.
  • Appears to still be smart (broad use of vocabular, not speaking like a brute)
  • And here's the catch, this new venom/toxin/formula makes him smarter.
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#2 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
Cool  thread. A lot of people don't really understand the character.
#3 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

I plan on making one of these for all of my favorite characters. I tried my best to make it accessible for everyone. Only a few key bullet points with things I believe are mandatory regarding the character. Hopefully it helps.

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#4 Posted by entropy_aegis (14114 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL

#5 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

It's sad that this thread is necessary. But great job, nonetheless.

#6 Posted by Mercy_ (92257 posts) - - Show Bio

Thank you

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#7 Posted by Billy Batson (57704 posts) - - Show Bio

How high would you rank him in fighting skills?
BB

#8 Posted by ragdollpurps (15571 posts) - - Show Bio

K4tz's Baner hard at work.

#9 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

How high would you rank him in fighting skills?
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If we're going by the Marvel handbook system, I'd give him a 6/7.

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#10 Edited by entropy_aegis (14114 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

How high would you rank him in fighting skills?
BB

K4tz's website ranked Bane a high 6 in h2h combat(there were 7 levels in total with levels 4-7 having 3 sublevels each).

Others on the same range as Bane were Black Canary,Daredevil,Connor Hawke and Captain America etc.

Note this is strictly h2h,no weapons of ANY sort whatsoever.

#11 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel like this should be sticky'd in the battles thread, lol.

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#12 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@ragdollpurps said:

K4tz's Baner hard at work.

LOL.
 
 
Good work, K4tz.
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#13 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

Thank you.

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#14 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I'll do the same for a few other characters. Any requests?

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#15 Posted by _slim_ (13050 posts) - - Show Bio

Rhino & Shocker.

#16 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_ said:

Rhino & Shocker.

Sure.

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#17 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

I think I'll do the same for a few other characters. Any requests?

Venom and all symbiote weaknesses in general. People always think that all it takes is a tuning fork and a lighter....

#18 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: Props. Congratulations. Thank you.

Prolationanks. I don't know what came over me :P

#19 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1662 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks for posting this thread. It was necessary...my eyes had started feeling pain from the recent Bane battles.

#20 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123 said:

and a lighter....

Don't force my hand.
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#21 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

and a lighter....

Don't force my hand.

ONE TIME, MORPH.

ONE. TIME.

And then that same writer made him laugh off a fire trap.

#22 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123 said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

and a lighter....

Don't force my hand.

ONE TIME, MORPH.

ONE. TIME.

And then that same writer made him laugh off a fire trap.

Don't forget Electro's blast. 
 
Mackie's Venom is unstoppable until he meets Spider-Man.
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#23 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

and a lighter....

Don't force my hand.

ONE TIME, MORPH.

ONE. TIME.

And then that same writer made him laugh off a fire trap.

Don't forget Electro's blast.

Mackie's Venom is unstoppable until he meets Spider-Man.

It wasn't just a blast, it was Electro in dire fear, fighting for his life.

Exactly.

#24 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Morpheus_ said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

and a lighter....

Don't force my hand.

ONE TIME, MORPH.

ONE. TIME.

And then that same writer made him laugh off a fire trap.

Don't forget Electro's blast.

Mackie's Venom is unstoppable until he meets Spider-Man.

The lighter and newspaper is cringe worthy, but the rooftop performance vs Spider-Man was awesome. Until...ya know, Carnage gave him an upset stomach and what not...lol

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#25 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio
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#26 Posted by Afro_Warrior (1120 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n:

If you could do one on Deadshot as well, that would be great.

Sometimes people assume he's just your standard B-list Bat villain with a gun. So it'd be nice to correct those views, when they pop up.

#27 Edited by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:


K4tz's website ranked Bane a high 6 in h2h combat(there were 7 levels in total with levels 4-7 having 3 sublevels each).

Others on the same range as Bane were Black Canary,Daredevil,Connor Hawke and Captain America etc.

Note this is strictly h2h,no weapons of ANY sort whatsoever.

What is this website you speak of? I'm interested.
#28 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@Afro_Warrior said:

@k4tzm4n:

If you could do one on Deadshot as well, that would be great.

Sometimes people assume he's just your standard B-list Bat villain with a gun. So it'd be nice to correct those views, when they pop up.

Honestly, I think there's only a rare few that don't respect/understand Floyd.

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#29 Posted by moviegeek17 (1474 posts) - - Show Bio

Great points man and a great thread

#30 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@moviegeek17: Thank you.

@RainEffect: It's a forum I made awhile ago on proboards. It's less flashy and there's far less users (therefore it hits slow points a lot), but on the plus side, it's troll free. I won't post a link here, but I'll PM you one if you want.

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#31 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

It's possible I'll make one for Floyd. I'll gladly take other requests and make them if I think I'm qualified for the character.

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#32 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3443 posts) - - Show Bio

A thread like this should be made for many other characters.

#33 Posted by SexualLobster (995 posts) - - Show Bio

Thank you, I saw Juggernaut vs. Bane once and vomited into my clown shoes.

#34 Posted by Hit_Monkey (858 posts) - - Show Bio

@Afro_Warrior said:

@k4tzm4n:

If you could do one on Deadshot as well, that would be great.

Sometimes people assume he's just your standard B-list Bat villain with a gun. So it'd be nice to correct those views, when they pop up.

Exactly

#35 Edited by TheRedRobin96 (334 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow, I would do it but I am to lazy. I do understand the character better than most but I think you would do a better job than me at actually writing it all out.

#36 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio
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#37 Posted by joshmightbe (24439 posts) - - Show Bio

I did a joke Bane thread a while back that back fired on me because of the sheer amount of people without enough knowledge on Bane to realize it was a joke

#38 Posted by Watcherg6 (263 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea thank you for this Thread, and mostly thank you for explaining it in knightfall better, it explains why there are almost no good cartoons with Bane, I still hope Bruse timm will make a knightfall movie, but it'll probly take a while.

#39 Posted by AmazingFantasy15 (259 posts) - - Show Bio

I blame the skewed perception of bane on the Batman and Robin film (damn you Joel Schumacher (director) Akiva Goldsman (Writer) and Robert Swenson (played bane)!).

#40 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@Watcherg6: You're very welcome.

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#41 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: A Gorgon / Deathstroke one?

#42 Posted by TheWatchMan (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Very well said!

#43 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@k4tzm4n: A Gorgon / Deathstroke one?

Morph is the man for either of those!

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#44 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheWatchMan: Thank you.

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#45 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (17498 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: This awesome and helps people who dont understand the character much,well understand him,have you done any more of these?

#46 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio
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#47 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said: 
Good work, K4tz.
#48 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio

You made one for Crossbones? And it disappeared!?

sadface.jpg.

#49 Posted by k4tzm4n (36115 posts) - - Show Bio

@Silver2467: Thanks.

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#50 Posted by laflux (13689 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: please please do one on spider-man. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

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