To many members

#1 Posted by masmason92 (24 posts) - - Show Bio

does anyone else think Hickmans avengers roster is way to big?

#2 Edited by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, but I guess it's kinda the point of his run? To go bigger.

#3 Edited by ArturoCalaKayVee (11581 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous how oversized it was especially since everyone used to complain that Bendis was adding too many people to the roster, Hickman decided to overstaff it as well.

To me, having an oversized roster makes it less special to be Earths Mightiest Hero.

#4 Edited by cameron83 (7296 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

To me,there are FAR less members than there used to be (which is good).

The way it is in the cartoons/movies where there are only like 6 members is inaccurate.

And it makes no sense to me whatsoever for Earth's mightiest heroes to only have a roster of less than 7 people.When there is a worldwide threat,let's see how they alone solve it....

#5 Posted by The Stegman (24372 posts) - - Show Bio

I just don't like Captain Universe being on the team...

#6 Posted by tigerkaya (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: For me its Hyperion, he's gotta go. Its only a matter of time before he turns evil or brainwashed.

#7 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

does anyone else think Hickmans avengers roster is way to big?

I don't.

That is, I don't think that's the problem so much as that none of the characters are really getting any focus. Back in the 90's there were like 15 members of the X-men and it never felt like too many. And the Marvel Superheroes Secret War in the 80's had 20 superheroes and they all got a chance to shine in the span of 12 issues.

The current Avengers book isn't suffering from too many characters, it's suffering from not focusing on any of them.

#8 Posted by masmason92 (24 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: i totally agree. I am reading secret wars right now and everyone get the right amount of the lime light. Thats why i am reading Uncanny avengers, I think its more of an old school avengers comic which i like.

#9 Edited by DH69 (4258 posts) - - Show Bio

did you miss the part where they stress the whole "go bigger" idea

#10 Edited by guttridgeb (4832 posts) - - Show Bio

I disagree, I like the idea of the Avengers being a massive thing and I think it works really well under Hickman. I'm looking forward to finding out who fills those extra spaces.

#11 Posted by desmond006 (596 posts) - - Show Bio

I think its too big but like previously stated that's the point. Earths mightiest heroes? their letting anybody in.

#12 Posted by cameron83 (7296 posts) - - Show Bio

@dh69 said:

did you miss the part where they stress the whole "go bigger" idea

I disagree, I like the idea of the Avengers being a massive thing and I think it works really well under Hickman. I'm looking forward to finding out who fills those extra spaces.

I completely agree.I especially hate the idea that earth's mightiest heroes would just be comprised of less than 10 members.It's like an Army being comprised of only 10 people and then saying "World Army".It would make no sense and just seem stupid,impractical (and even arrogant).

#13 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: i totally agree. I am reading secret wars right now and everyone get the right amount of the lime light. Thats why i am reading Uncanny avengers, I think its more of an old school avengers comic which i like.

wow. I don't think I've ever convinced an OP with just one post before.. hahaha!

but, yeah, I think Uncanny Avengers is my favorite right now. The first arc started a bit slow, but I think it's striking a really good balance between big, epic threats and great character interactions, and that's what I really like to read the Avengers for. Definitely a real classic Avengers feel.

Hickman's New Avengers is a close second, but to me it's more of an Illuminati story.

That's a really good point, and I think it's one of the best arguments I've heard for why the Avengers should be recruiting as many members as they have.

And I'm totally gonna use this argument next time I hear someone complaining about X-men characters being on the Avengers, because surely any of the mutant members they've enlisted should count as among Earth's mightiest heroes as well.

#14 Posted by Oscars94 (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

This book is about Avengers World! They needed them. Cap and Tony chose a load of powerhouses too. Since Mars, they've stepped up their game. With Thanos coming in Infinity,its gonna be big, I mean let's do a checklist of powerhouses on the good side. Blue Marvel, Hulk, Thor, Hyperion,Captain Universe, Captain Marvel, Smasher etc.

#15 Posted by cameron83 (7296 posts) - - Show Bio

@masmason92 said:

@oldnightcrawler: i totally agree. I am reading secret wars right now and everyone get the right amount of the lime light. Thats why i am reading Uncanny avengers, I think its more of an old school avengers comic which i like.

wow. I don't think I've ever convinced an OP with just one post before.. hahaha!

but, yeah, I think Uncanny Avengers is my favorite right now. The first arc started a bit slow, but I think it's striking a really good balance between big, epic threats and great character interactions, and that's what I really like to read the Avengers for. Definitely a real classic Avengers feel.

Hickman's New Avengers is a close second, but to me it's more of an Illuminati story.

That's a really good point, and I think it's one of the best arguments I've heard for why the Avengers should be recruiting as many members as they have.

And I'm totally gonna use this argument next time I hear someone complaining about X-men characters being on the Avengers, because surely any of the mutant members they've enlisted should count as among Earth's mightiest heroes as well.

really?

Aw shucks.....I feel so special now :D

#16 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4562 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by PowerHerc (83464 posts) - - Show Bio

As long as the members are the right members and the writing is good there aren't too many Avengers.

#18 Edited by New_World_Order (13187 posts) - - Show Bio

It's the whole point.

#19 Posted by masmason92 (24 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been going back and reading some of the issues and its starting to make more sense. It kinda reminds me of guardians of the globe where you have different squads for different situations.

#20 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@masmason92 said:

I have been going back and reading some of the issues and its starting to make more sense. It kinda reminds me of guardians of the globe where you have different squads for different situations.

I like that idea in theory, I just don't feel like most of the squads we've seen have really shown enough character interaction to be very engaging.

Though, I did rather like the team dynamic in 12 and 13 (Thor, Ironman, Hyperion, Spiderman, Spiderwoman, Hawkeye, and Captain Universe) a lot more than I would've thought. Though, that was one of the first arcs to really get into that very much.

#21 Edited by Captainamerica119 (200 posts) - - Show Bio

Just Have Cap, Iron Man, Wasp, Hulk, Ant-Man (Pym), Wolverine, Thor, Spidey (Parker) and Halkeye. Maybe Black Widow, Vision. 2 many X-Men as well.

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