Well i happen to collide on this image and I find it awesome. I'm not black but I think they should make one for at least 12 issues. What do you think guys and gals? Who would you want to be the leader and could they work together well? and perhap you want to add another black character or more to the team?

@jhazzroucher: it could, but it depends on what kind of story really an what kind of team as well are they a street level team or fight big villians like the main avengers or both( like new avengers)

leader would be hard cause most these a characters have lead some team, but i do see photon leading oh another charcter to add would be war machine

They'd get overpowered in a matter of days.

@Vincent92 said:

@jhazzroucher: it could, but it depends on what kind of story really an what kind of team as well are they a street level team or fight big villians like the main avengers or both( like new avengers)

leader would be hard cause most these a characters have lead some team, but i do see photon leading oh another charcter to add would be war machine

Indeed. it would still also depend on how the writers will write them.

Yeah! War Machine is super cool.

Then let's add Blue Marvel just in case there'd be Avengers vs Black Avengers.

First the whole gay movement, now this? Ughhh..

@Redberry said:

@royale_with_cheese said:

First the whole gay movement, now this? Ughhh..

I don't see what's wrong with having a gay or black character. Why are you against it?

First of, the LGBT movement within the comic book industry is a marketing ploy aimed at appealing to mainstream media. I having nothing against the gays. Secondly, what possible reason could make this band of black superheroes want to form a team? To fight a super powered KKK member? Whoever created that image didn't even give it much thought; Photon is in the team, but Sam Wilson (The Falcon) ins't?

@jhazzroucher: that would be cool fight as long as they don't overpower the blue marvel like they did sentry, i would say as writer my choices are geof johns or joss wheadon would be cool

@Vincent92 said:

@jhazzroucher: that would be cool fight as long as they don't overpower the blue marvel like they did sentry, i would say as writer my choices are geof johns or joss wheadon would be cool

geoff johns yeah!

@royale_with_cheese: well thats why i said you would need a good writer to make up a goood story for them to come together

@jhazzroucher: plus it would be nice for the writers to learn from past titles to leanr what can work works and dosen't: for example the the Crew: http://www.comicvine.com/crew/65-41420/

also i would love to see storm and black panther work out there issues

@royale_with_cheese said:

@Redberry said:

@royale_with_cheese said:

First the whole gay movement, now this? Ughhh..

I don't see what's wrong with having a gay or black character. Why are you against it?

First of, the LGBT movement within the comic book industry is a marketing ploy aimed at appealing to mainstream media. I having nothing against the gays. Secondly, what possible reason could make this band of black superheroes want to form a team? To fight a super powered KKK member? Whoever created that image didn't even give it much thought; Photon is in the team, but Sam Wilson (The Falcon) ins't?

I loled at the Super powered KKK part. He does make a valid point though. Why would the team be exclusively black other than just having them be exclusively black? The only way I can see it happening is if somehow these characters were transported back in time to an oppressive segregated state where all the none black characters are either bigots or unpowered. Also you might get away with a villain some how turning all the none black heroes into bigots (again possibly through time travel). Eh, neither one of these options sounds that great to me. You'd need a REALLY strong author to pull off the story. Maybe Grant. He's my go to guy for making stuff that doesn't make sense make sense : P

Wasn't there a rather recent mini which had this same basic premise, an all black superhero team?

Also, wtf at cloak without dagger....

Super powered KKK

@jhazzroucher: don't mind as long as they originate from different backgrounds, I mean like black avengers from outside of american soil.

.......Apparently Blue Marvel still can't be an Avenger...

@Redberry said:

Marketing or not, gay readers are now have someone they can relate to, so I think it's a good thing in my opinion.

As for black superheroes, it's not necessary, but if you don't question an all-white superheroes team (Which are everywhere) then why would you question an all-black superheroes team? The writers could choose to do it because it could provide an interesting spin on the usual all-white team.

A character doesn't have to have a certain sexual orientation for the reader to be able to identify with him/her (this goes for both gay and straight readers). Especially those that have preexisting histories (i.e. Alan Scott). There are more facets to life that resonate with the reader, than simply being gay or straight.

Why do I question the validity of an all black superhero team? Simple; all the heroes on this aforementioned black super hero team have history of their own, that do not tie with each other (unless Marvel wants to write them in, in the same manner they did to the Sentry). It's not a matter of race, rather, whether or not this would make any sense. Why would Marvel want to publish a racially exclusive team, unless the problem is racially exclusive?

@Redberry said:

@royale_with_cheese said:

@Redberry said:

@royale_with_cheese said:

First the whole gay movement, now this? Ughhh..

I don't see what's wrong with having a gay or black character. Why are you against it?

First of, the LGBT movement within the comic book industry is a marketing ploy aimed at appealing to mainstream media. I having nothing against the gays. Secondly, what possible reason could make this band of black superheroes want to form a team? To fight a super powered KKK member? Whoever created that image didn't even give it much thought; Photon is in the team, but Sam Wilson (The Falcon) ins't?

Marketing or not, gay readers are now have someone they can relate to, so I think it's a good thing in my opinion.

As for black superheroes, it's not necessary, but if you don't question an all-white superheroes team (Which are everywhere) then why would you question an all-black superheroes team? The writers could choose to do it because it could provide an interesting spin on the usual all-white team.

So because I'm gay I can't relate to Superman and need my own specially tailored gay characters? You're gross.

@HotSauceCommittee said:

So because I'm gay I can't relate to Superman and need my own specially tailored gay characters? You're gross.

What? That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying. My point is: if you're gay, you don't need a gay character to relate to just so you can read a comic book (and vice versa).

Edit: My bad. You were addressing the other user.

@Redberry said:

When it comes to relationship, a gay person can't relate to a straight person's relationship with the opposite gender because they don't feel that way about the opposite gender. A lot of superheroes comics have relationship in it, and a lot of them are very iconic like Superman/Lois and Spiderman/Mary Jane. Gay people may be able to enjoy the superheroes saving the world and such, but they can't relate to them on a personal level. Gay people experiences life differently from straight. Society treats both groups differently. Having diversity meaning that gay kids can also aspire to be superheroes and leaders of the world. I don't think a straight person can understand the experience of a gay person growing up with no one they can identify with while being constantly condemn to Hell by people close to them.

Now you're treating the gays as if their sexual orientation defines them.....I don't think any person who picks up a comic book has the preconceived notion that they won't eventually be emotionally invested into it, so whether or not a character is in a gay/straight relationship is rather trivial.

@royale_with_cheese said:

@Redberry said:

When it comes to relationship, a gay person can't relate to a straight person's relationship with the opposite gender because they don't feel that way about the opposite gender. A lot of superheroes comics have relationship in it, and a lot of them are very iconic like Superman/Lois and Spiderman/Mary Jane. Gay people may be able to enjoy the superheroes saving the world and such, but they can't relate to them on a personal level. Gay people experiences life differently from straight. Society treats both groups differently. Having diversity meaning that gay kids can also aspire to be superheroes and leaders of the world. I don't think a straight person can understand the experience of a gay person growing up with no one they can identify with while being constantly condemn to Hell by people close to them.

Now you're treating the gays as if their sexual orientation defines them.....I don't think any person who picks up a comic book has the preconceived notion that they won't eventually be emotionally invested into it, so whether or not a character is in a gay/straight relationship is rather trivial.

I think what Redberry is saying may not be applicable to you but to other people. Or it's kinda different when aside from being able to relate to a comic character because of the same experiences like no parents (Batman, Storm) or not looking good (Nightcrawler, Anole), intelligent (Beast), etc, you can also relate to the character according to your sexual preference.

@Redberry: I haven't put words into your mouth, rather, you've taken my posts out of context (and possibly to heart). The point is that they are putting gay characters in comics for no reasons. The greatest example of this is what D.C has decided to do with Alan Scott's history.

@royale_with_cheese said:

@Redberry: I haven't put words into your mouth, rather, you've taken my posts out of context (and possibly to heart). The point is that they are putting gay characters in comics for no reasons. The greatest example of this is what D.C has decided to do with Alan Scott's history.

and they also said that it was gonna be an iconic character. Alan scott is not iconic. But maybe they're referring to the "green lantern" title which is iconic. I know what you mean. just like the Storm and BP marriage in which there wasn't really a good foundation why they got married. I agree with you. DC rushed the story of making Alan gay. Unlike Northstar who has been gay for a while.

@TheThe said:

This could work, but in this order they better change the name of team, because the title "black avengers" is racially charged. There are a lot of "all white" teams, but those teams dont have names refering specifically to their ethnicity. Starting from that, i believe everybody should be able to relate to any kind of team or any kind of member(black, latino, gay, female, white, Extraterrial) as soon as the story is good . Sexual orientation, "race" or gender mean nothing when the writer is skilled.

Good point. so what should be the name of the team then?

on if the Asian Avengers get the same treatment

I think that having an all black team just adds fuel to the fire of segregation. I don't think we need another us verse them kind of team built on race. Again how would they come together that a team of all black members from the marvel universe would come together and someone like Captain America or Iron Man would just sit on the sidelines? Do they not care of the issue at hand or is it just a race related thing? I don't see a story being strong enough to give us that kind separation. Seems like a major step backwards in the wrong direction. They should fight together, not separate.

@Nighthunter: true, cloak does need dagger to live so i guess she can show up as guest appearences, but i take the story as more of a fun fanservice than 'positive' racial SEGREGATION, there are people who would read the book simply for the idea and there have been plenty of movies that had worked that are domanted by mainly one race ex: the avengers had mainly all white cast but on the actually team had all white characters and nick fury dosen't count since he just put them together.

For a interesting story i would say something like some rebels from afica had gotten hold of some advanced technolgy and started a war against wakanda, black panther dosen't know who is behind the rebels and calls in a few favrs from the avengers, the reason they have black members cause they need less iconic or recongizeable avengers so africa dose not need to feel that america is going to war against them. it is a thought that could use some more editing but it is a start

It would have to be a What If book, like What If the Civil Rights Movement Never Happened? That would probably be pretty good. Other than that, it would take a pretty big coincidence to have an event that draws heroes together that all happen to be black.

I think it's kind of stupid when comics make choices with the sole reasoning of what race or religion a person is.