One Problem With the Avengers

#1 Posted by Hef (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Where the hell was spiderman? Look I know he's not part of the avengers, at least he doesn't work with them originally, but they're in new york. They're in modern day new york. I just watched a trailer for a spider man reboot right before the movie which also takes place in modern day. Also no stark tower in any spider man movie. Honestly it wasn't really a huge deal, just something I noticed.

#2 Posted by Final Arrow (24359 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hef: the Spiderman movie rights are held by a different company and thats why there is no cross over.

#3 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh. fed up of these stupid "where was this one specific hero in the Avengers film".

#4 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

^ That.

I think I'm just going to make a thread specifically on who's rights are where.

#5 Posted by Hef (3 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35: @Gambit1024: My apologies for not following which movie companies own which properties. All I know is I've read comic books where spider man is part of the avengers and I was just curious. Didn't realise this was going to be so hard on you guys.

#6 Posted by inferiorego (21213 posts) - - Show Bio

Where were Ant-Man and Wasp?

(I really just wanted to say that because I love my old school Avengers)

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#7 Posted by Delphic (1461 posts) - - Show Bio

Well it's like what James Robinson said in the last podcast. Green Lantern bombed in the box office, but if they had put a Daily Planet in the film or mention Clark Kent's name fan's would have loved it, but DC said that would be too distracting. Which is utter bull.

In the case of the Avengers they have been doing character mentions and cameos for years now.

If Spider-man or any other Marvel avenger had made a cameo it wouldn't really have as much an effect. Avengers is full of action and character plot, a cameo mention of Spider-man would probably have been mostly overshadowed.

#8 Posted by Rusty_Irons (627 posts) - - Show Bio

He's right. Avengers would not have been any better with a cameo.

#9 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie rights.

Learn about them.

#10 Posted by Pokeysteve (8018 posts) - - Show Bio

My problem with the Avengers was:

No Avengers assemble. WTF

#11 Posted by DEGRAAF (7869 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

^ That.

I think I'm just going to make a thread specifically on who's rights are where.

While i know where most right are with what people i think this would be greatly appreciated

#12 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35 said:

Ugh. fed up of these stupid "where was this one specific hero in the Avengers film".

Half these people only make these threads for pure attention.

Spider-Man is one of my all time favorite characters...with that said...He did not belong in this film at all. Not as a cameo. Possibly a mention of a "spider-man" roaming around new york would have been ok...but not necessary at all.

It wasn't a huge deal but you just had to make your title like that? Ok.

#13 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio
#14 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14587 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

My problem with the Avengers was:

No Avengers assemble. WTF

Same. I was almost positive Cap was gonna say it.

#16 Posted by Pokeysteve (8018 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: I thought it'd be Fury calling them back. Avengers 2 hopefully.

#17 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective: Your spoiler didn't work.

As for that, when Whedon's involved, you had to expect a casualty. Besides, the Avengers needed something to... Avenge. There's a lot of talk about him being brought back as Vision or the body being an LMD. Either way, I had no problem with it, as cool as he was.

#18 Posted by Hef (3 posts) - - Show Bio

All I'm saying is spider man is in the same universe. There was a giant fucking alien invasion right in his home base. It just felt weird to me that he wouldn't show up, you know?

#19 Posted by Nudeviking (479 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

My problem with the Avengers was:

No Avengers assemble. WTF

There were a couple different points where I thought it was going to be bellowed, but then nothing...and then end credits. :\

#20 Posted by ThomasElliot (360 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35:

I wish upvoting existed in forums. I would give you 1,000+

"uhhhnn... how come iceman and g'nort were no in avengers? uhhhnnn. me need diaper change"

#21 Posted by Pokeysteve (8018 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nudeviking said:

@Pokeysteve said:

My problem with the Avengers was:

No Avengers assemble. WTF

There were a couple different points where I thought it was going to be bellowed, but then nothing...and then end credits. :\

Me too. Kept scootin to the end of my seat only to be disappointed. Great movie though.

#22 Posted by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman and Wolverine aside I would have enjoyed a War Machine cameo. 

#23 Posted by L1FTD (2 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hef said:

All I'm saying is spider man is in the same universe. There was a giant fucking alien invasion right in his home base. It just felt weird to me that he wouldn't show up, you know?

This precisely! I understand that Spiderman is held by Sony until whenever, but with the money to be made there will certainly be a an agreement made between Sony and Disney for a collaboration in future Avenger titles and then it's going to just a be a huge gaping plot hole that will bother me to no end. If they weren't going to even mention let alone include Spiderman in the movie they shouldn't of had Loki attack NYC! The movie would have been just as good in downtown LA or Chicago. I mean all they had to do was have Tony ask Fury wheres the Spider? or something like that. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!

#24 Posted by cloudzackvincent (1026 posts) - - Show Bio

@L1FTD said:

@Hef said:

All I'm saying is spider man is in the same universe. There was a giant fucking alien invasion right in his home base. It just felt weird to me that he wouldn't show up, you know?

This precisely! I understand that Spiderman is held by Sony until whenever, but with the money to be made there will certainly be a an agreement made between Sony and Disney for a collaboration in future Avenger titles and then it's going to just a be a huge gaping plot hole that will bother me to no end. If they weren't going to even mention let alone include Spiderman in the movie they shouldn't of had Loki attack NYC! The movie would have been just as good in downtown LA or Chicago. I mean all they had to do was have Tony ask Fury wheres the Spider? or something like that. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!

i would say as of now...spiderman doesn't exist in the "Marvel Cinematic Universe"... maybe Peter Parker is around...but hasn't been bitten by the spider yet.... besides this is a movie...even in the comics..all the heroes don't show up everytime new york is attacked...although most of them are based in new york...

if we go by ur logic then....

-where were spiderman, daredevil etc when Magneto was pulling that act on top of the statue of liberty in X men

-where were spiderman, the x men, daredevil, punisher when galactus arrived in fantastic four 2

-where were the fantastic four, the x men and daredevil when venom and the sandman was beating the crap out of spiderman on live television in spiderman 3

-where were all the heroes when magneto and phoenix invaded with the mutant army in X 3

the examples can go on....simply put...movies and even comics to some extent doesn't work like that

#25 Posted by TheCannon (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-man is owned by Columbia Pictures. The Avengers are owned by Marvel. Marven CAN'T have him in a movie. And if it's the Andrew Garfield Spider-man, I hope they never use him.

#26 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@inferiorego said:

Where were Ant-Man and Wasp?

(I really just wanted to say that because I love my old school Avengers)

#27 Posted by tg1982 (2715 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@inferiorego said:

Where were Ant-Man and Wasp?

(I really just wanted to say that because I love my old school Avengers)

#28 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (12489 posts) - - Show Bio

Stark Tower didn't even exist until Halfway through the Spider-man trilogy....

#29 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7686 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone even my friends at school are complaining he got left out.

He's a single hero.

#30 Posted by Skyfire (706 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd rather have the Avengers mentioned in ASM.

#31 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35 said:

Ugh. fed up of these stupid "where was this one specific hero in the Avengers film".

ME TOO.

#32 Posted by Enosisik (1153 posts) - - Show Bio

Why wasn't Howard the Duck there ? He's an alien too!!! Ugh give me a break, obviously there wasn't enough screen time for the cast they did have since so much had to be cut. Adding random characters just for the sake of showing that they exist is waaaaaaay too much! You could ask the same about Dr.Strange and about a hundred others and why wouldn't the other villains come to help either side? See it's just too much. ugh

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