How the Hulk Saved the Avengers

#1 Posted by joshmightbe (24908 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't need any emotional baggage to enjoy the movie, why does every thing have to be a serious emotional story for critics to like it. Yes its good to have some good emotional depth to movies some times but anyone who went into the Avengers expecting that was delusional, the movie clearly showed that it fully intended to be a big fun action movie with super heroes and that's exactly what it delivered. Everyone I've heard talking bad about the movie so far seems to have been expecting something that the movie never once made any claim to. I didn't need a 10 minute scene of characters crying over Coulson, this wasn't the movie for that, you want to see pathos go watch Batman.

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#2 Posted by Oscars94 (2562 posts) - - Show Bio

It was an excellent movie and I loved how Whedon juggled all of the characters. I only expected Loki to control the Hulk but he managed to fit an alien invasion into the movie! JOSS IS BOSS. 10/10

#3 Posted by DarkDay (634 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I think the author of the article simply misses the point and quite often of the very scenes he's nitpicking about emotionally. The fact that he brings up something being a ruse, and thus in his mind at least, this invalidates all the emotions previously displayed is strange to me. After all authors write what they know, actors act what they know, fiction while fiction is not created in a vacuum and does invariably pull upon something of truth and reality even if it's distorted, idealized, or gentrified. Almost every ruse that he brought up has other scenes to validate that even if it was ruse their is some deeper underlying truth. Widow's scene with Loki - Widow's scenes with Hawkeye, their fight, the aftermath, and the banter exchanged between them.

Coulson's death and Fury's ruse - Fury's belief in The Avengers, his actions toward his superiors/their orders, and his closing statement of the film.

Thor's relationship with Loki - Thor's actions toward Loki for the entire film (he even allows him to stab him and Thor was clearly capable of retaliating) if you have any idea what its like to have a sibling you can relate because though your parents will always try for equal, there is no such thing.

Loki seeming childish - Loki and Thor's entire movie relationship can be summed up as sibling rivalry spurred by what they feel is a disapproving father. Disapproving father is literally the plot of the Thor movie... >_>

To me it seems like the author likes the Hulk and thus he focuses on the Hulk. If you're looking right, you're bound to miss the little things happening on the left. Don't get me wrong, The Avengers is a summer action blockbuster and it delivers, but honestly I think it has quite a bit of subtlety thrown into it's writing and some of it is quite emotional while other bits aren't. That's not to say you aren't going to catch in tropes, but that's to say that some of the film is blink and you miss it with regards to character development and interpersonal connections, this is an action movie, it's not made of introspection and pathos though I'd argue it actually gives both in small doses.

#4 Posted by UltraBiel (328 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

I didn't need any emotional baggage to enjoy the movie, why does every thing have to be a serious emotional story for critics to like it. Yes its good to have some good emotional depth to movies some times but anyone who went into the Avengers expecting that was delusional, the movie clearly showed that it fully intended to be a big fun action movie with super heroes and that's exactly what it delivered. Everyone I've heard talking bad about the movie so far seems to have been expecting something that the movie never once made any claim to. I didn't need a 10 minute scene of characters crying over Coulson, this wasn't the movie for that, you want to see pathos go watch Batman.

This. Just look to all the TV series nowadays. If they don't have a big bottle of drama people just see then as inferior. Even if they are action oriented. This sux sometimes...

#5 Posted by joshmightbe (24908 posts) - - Show Bio

@UltraBiel: Some times we just need a break from the drama all the damn time. I loved Avengers specifically for the fact that it was a break. And it was one of those rare movies that actually delivered everything the trailer promised.

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#6 Posted by HulkSlayerT1000 (1066 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk had alot of help in the movies.

#7 Posted by Superguy0009e (2265 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@UltraBiel: Some times we just need a break from the drama all the damn time. I loved Avengers specifically for the fact that it was a break. And it was one of those rare movies that actually delivered everything the trailer promised.

Agreed. I loved Avengers because it is the type of Hollywood Blockbusters that I love. Great action, great characters, great chemistry and great closing without having to get overly dramatic or dark.

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