Avengers movie - Thor, Iron man

#1 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

and the nuke.

that's what I wanted to talk about. It's the only thing about the movie that bugged me.

Why is it that when Tony grabs the nuke, flies upwards and passes the portal, Thor doesn't do anything?

They all sit there watching it happening, Cap waits a few secs to see if Tony comes back and then he just says to close the portal. Why didnt he tell Thor to go pick Tony up? he could easily flown up and retrieve Tony.

He only tries to do that when Tony alredy came out of the portal, everyone thought he was probably doomed, dead or trapped on the otherside but Hulk gets to Tony first. We do see Thor moving Mjolnir in a away that shows he was going to fly but why didnt he do it sooner?

Maybe Im reading too much into this and it was just for shock and drama value, but Id like to hear other people's opinions on this, maybe I missed something

#2 Posted by DChero (136 posts) - - Show Bio

i guess its just for suspense. It is a movie after all you know. I guess they just wanted to put tony in a position in which he has to sacrifice himself for the team. you can see they were planning to do that when cap and him were butting heads and cap basically said tony isn't the type of guy to put his life on the line for others or something like that. They just wanted ironman to be the big hero. I felt nick should have told thor about the nuke rather than tony.

#3 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4742 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is a jerk. The end.

#4 Posted by TheAnnihilator (1056 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor can't breathe in space. And Tony chose to sacrifice himself, sending another man in on something that was already basically suicide would be a poor decision.

#5 Posted by joshmightbe (24908 posts) - - Show Bio

My only complaint was much smaller. Did no one in the entire cast or crew think it may be a good idea to have someone show the guy playing Hawkeye how to properly hold a Bow? I mean archery is basically his super power you'd think that would imply that he's held a bow before the opening credits at some point. When he's not using it he wears it like a necklace and when he does use it he holds it like he's never seen one before.

#6 Posted by thenerdal (24 posts) - - Show Bio

Just for suspense. Like how come Loki just layed there after Hulk smashed him. He could've left so that he wouldn't be captured. But then, I guess he knew he lost.

#7 Posted by Uncanny_Doom (475 posts) - - Show Bio

@thenerdal said:

Just for suspense. Like how come Loki just layed there after Hulk smashed him. He could've left so that he wouldn't be captured. But then, I guess he knew he lost.

One does not simply get up after being smashed by Hulk.

#8 Edited by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis: he was close to the Cap when Tony was passing through the portal. He just stared at the portal and waited like everyone else until Tony comes out of it. THEN he actually starts moving Mjolnir, trying to get momentum to fly off and save tony but Hulk gets there first

@joshmightbe said:

My only complaint was much smaller. Did no one in the entire cast or crew think it may be a good idea to have someone show the guy playing Hawkeye how to properly hold a Bow? I mean archery is basically his super power you'd think that would imply that he's held a bow before the opening credits at some point. When he's not using it he wears it like a necklace and when he does use it he holds it like he's never seen one before.

I didnt even noticed that. Good catch! but it wouldnt have bothered me either if I had noticed. I presume you are into archery?

@TheAnnihilator: Thor can't breathe in space? Also, that was kinda the point. It didnt need to be suicide if Thor, who can fly faster than IM, I assume, just went there with him, left the nuke and got him out in a zap

Conclusions so far: It was either for drama or shock value (As I already said in the OP) OR it could be assumed that they knew Tony had a nuke with him and they didnt know if he had escaped the explosion or not (since they couldnt see beyong the portal)

#9 Posted by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jorgevy: They did know Tony had the nuke with him. Cap tells Widow to close the portal earlier, but Tony says "keep it open I have a nuke coming impact in less than one minute and I know right where to put it" (or something like that). Cap says "you know thats a one way ticket."  
2 reasons. 1) So that Iron-Man could be the hero. Thor would of been a more logical choice, after all his brother is responsible for all this, but they wanted to make Tony's character develop into a hero (in his first two films he's basically cleaning up his own mess). Cap and Tony argue earlier on and Cap calls him out for not being the one to make the sacrifice when the game is on the line. and 2) Because "there's no coming back" (I believe Cap said that to Tony when he decided to fly a nuke in there. Sending Thor in after him would lose you Thor not gain you Tony.  
#10 Posted by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

@Yai_Inn: hmm, good answer. Even though I think Thor could have made it. Of course, maybe movie Thor is slower and also, Tony had to be the hero in the movie. Thanks :)

#11 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

He was recovering from Hulk's sucker punch.

#12 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

It was most likely due to Cap's retort that Tony merely thinks about himself and no one else. Tony wanted to prove that he's a hero not only to Cap, but to the world.

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#13 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAnnihilator said:

Thor can't breathe in space. And Tony chose to sacrifice himself, sending another man in on something that was already basically suicide would be a poor decision.

Movie Thor can't.

#14 Posted by TheAnnihilator (1056 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@TheAnnihilator said:

Thor can't breathe in space. And Tony chose to sacrifice himself, sending another man in on something that was already basically suicide would be a poor decision.

Movie Thor can't.

That's my point. I know comic Thor can. The first Beta Ray Bill stories are some of my favorite,

#15 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAnnihilator:

Got it.

m99

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