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X-Men: First Class Review — Don't Call It A Reboot

The long-awaited and feared movie is now in theaters. How good or bad was it?

Let me begin by saying, X-Men: First Class will not be true to the comics. We know this. It's been made perfectly clear in all the trailers and TV spots. There is no reason to dwell on that. This is a meant to be a piece of entertainment based on or inspired by the comics. I can easily say that now but even I had to keep reminding myself during the movie.

With that in mind, I did enjoy it. One question that was heavily on my mind was would this movie have any ties or connections to the other X-films? Maybe it was watching it so late at night but I'm not sure I can fully answer that. Discounting the whole Emma Frost/Wolverine Origins debacle, I think it's safe to say this movie could, in fact, be in the same continuity of the other movies. But then, I haven't watched/tried to avoid the others.

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Even though there was that glorious Marvel logo at the beginning, this almost didn't feel like a Marvel or comic book movie. We do see Magneto's childhood story told once again and I wish I had re-watched the first X-Men movie to remind myself how the scenes played out. But we do get more of his childhood along with Xavier's (some of which we got a glimpse of in the trailers).

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The fact that the movie is set mainly in 1963 was an intriguing idea. When I first heard about it, I wondered why this decision was made. It does make sense so that we can have Magneto's unfortunate childhood take place in the 1940s and not have to worry about de-aging him as he was in the comics. You can almost say that this movie is as much about Magneto as it is about Xavier and the formation of the X-Men. Whether this is to make up for the canceled X-Men Origins: Magneto movie, it provided an interesting hook. Magneto can often be seen as a simple two-dimensional villain but his story here reminds us of the layers his character is comprised of.

That being said, Michael Fassbender does a great job as Magneto. We get to see a more vulnerable Magneto that is rarely portrayed. James McAvoy does well as Charles Xavier as well but I couldn't help but wonder why the decision was made for Xavier to still have hair. It's just a matter of reminding ourselves that the movie is different from the comics. There were some scenes where Charles was not acting like the Charles we know. Great to see though.

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I know I said it's a matter of accepting that things will be different but it was still difficult to accept some of the changes. Moira MacTaggert as a CIA Agent without a Scottish accent felt very weird. Sebastian Shaw had an interesting backstory but I'm still not quite sure how I felt about it. As the main villain, I never really bought into his motives. Emma Frost felt a little out of place. It could be that I'm used to seeing the headstrong Emma that won't take crap from anyone. There were some little touches that reminded us this was the 60s and women had a slightly different role back then. Shaw's henchmen never really had a motive either. I can see Riptide being a hired thug but depending on what Azazel's actual origin is, it felt weird seeing him obediently follow Shaw's orders.

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Can we talk about the Hellfire Club for a bit? Yes, it is part of Sebastian and Emma's story but I don't really see the need for it in the movie. The unfortunate result of the almost pointless Hellfire scenes is I will not be taking my seven year old daughter to see this movie, despite the strong desire she has to see it. I don't think the idea of the Club providing entertainment for men with women dressed in 60s style lingerie really added anything. That may have been how Emma got her start in the Hellfire Club but throughout the rest of the movie, it didn't seem like an important factor.

As for the time period. There were a few moments I simply marveled at the set designs. The movie is supposed to take place in the early 60s and the set designers did a great job. Sure, a couple times things might have looked a little modern but it was the little things that really sold it for me.

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What about the rest of the cast? It's a mixed bag of some characters having a strong resemblance to their comic book counterparts while others did not. Beast was well portrayed. Havok felt a little weird. His personality was great but didn't feel quite like Alex Summers (and I still have no idea if he's supposed to be Scott's brother). Darwin and Angel were interesting choices to include. They were well done but completely unnecessary. Banshee was a complete redesign. He was pretty much nothing like his comic book counterpart but nevertheless, a nice addition.

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What about Mystique? Again, we have some changes in her story. I have no problem accepting the tweaks made. I thought it was an odd choice in the direction they chose and I will definitely need to watch the other X-movies to see if it feels like the same character.

It was a good movie. Not a great one but Fox handled it nicely. Even though it has nothing to do with the other Marvel movies, there's bound to be comparisons to Thor. In some ways, Thor felt like it had a higher production but First Class definitely felt like a bigger movie. By bigger, I mean that there were more locations (even though a good chunk of Thor took place all the way in Asgard). With Thor, it was just Asgard and Mexico we mainly saw. In First Class, we're pretty much all over the world.

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X-Men fans should be happy with the results here. Just remind yourself this will not be true to the comics. New fans should be able to jump right in and not worry why we're getting random mutants from different points in continuity thrown in. It is a form of entertainment. The story might have had a couple plotholes but overall tells the story of Magneto and the X-Men. Will we get a sequel? There has been talk of one. Would I like to see a sequel? Heck yeah. I liked what they did in creating this 1960s X-Men universe and would not mind seeing more of it, along with more mutants. Giving it a rating, it's a very very solid 4 out of 5.

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@fesak: Also, Charles is not wheel chair bound in his cameo at the end of Wolverine Origins.
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I'm surprised by people who said they like this movie with few source material woes yet people hated X3 for those same reasons. Agree to disagree but I think this movie was about as bad (or good?) as X3. In X3's defense, it actually had fewer annoying characters and better action scenes. Still both movies were stuck in the civil rights allegories Bryan Singer covered much better. Audiences shouldn't have to sit through a few movies of blandness for it to "finally get good." 

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@Ferro Vida said:

@fesak: Also, Charles is not wheel chair bound in his cameo at the end of Wolverine Origins.

Lol, do you know how many times he's been crippled and regained functionality of his legs in the comics?

Do you think the events of these five movies is all that has ever happened to these characters?

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I really wanna watch it now

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@fesak: Do you think I would care if I wasn't an X-men fan?  
 
Are you also one of the people that thinks the giant squid should have been kept in the Watchmen movie? Some things don't translate to the big screen.
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@Ferro Vida said:
@fesak: Do you think I would care if I wasn't an X-men fan?   Are you also one of the people that thinks the giant squid should have been kept in the Watchmen movie? Some things don't translate to the big screen.
 
You mean Xavier couldn't have regained use of his legs then gotten crippled again in the movie universe despite this having happened in the comics?
And this compares to giant squid in what way? Implying Xavier lost/regained legs makes use of established comics continuity while removing Giant Squid scene does the opposite.
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@fesak: Considering that it was established in First Class that the base of his spine was shattered, I think the chances are awfully slim of him regaining the ability to walk. You are arguing that something that happened in the comics could happen in the movie because it has happened in the comics; it is possible, yes, but it is highly unlikely. None of the movies follow the plots of any X-men story arcs that I can think of. Implying that a movie is making use of established comic continuity when it has not done so for the majority of the franchise seems unlikely. Which is good, IMO, because that would just make things confusing and convoluted for a lot of people who haven't read the comics.
 
Also, going back to a previous point, would it be possible for you to provide a link or scans to the story where Emma Frost was cloned? I don't actually recall that happening to her. 
 
You seem violently opposed to the idea that this movie just isn't related to the other four. Why is that? Is it just because I'm the one who is suggesting it? I know you are a smart guy. Which is why it strikes me as odd that you are making some arguments that, quite frankly, are grasping at straws; like Moira MacTaggart naming her daughter Moira MacTaggart, which would require her to retire from the CIA, move to Scotland, get knocked up, name the baby after herself, and all within a few years in order for the age of the second Moira to fit.
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@Ferro Vida said:
@fesak: Considering that it was established in First Class that the base of his spine was shattered, I think the chances are awfully slim of him regaining the ability to walk. You are arguing that something that happened in the comics could happen in the movie because it has happened in the comics; it is possible, yes, but it is highly unlikely. None of the movies follow the plots of any X-men story arcs that I can think of. Implying that a movie is making use of established comic continuity when it has not done so for the majority of the franchise seems unlikely. Which is good, IMO, because that would just make things confusing and convoluted for a lot of people who haven't read the comics. Also, going back to a previous point, would it be possible for you to provide a link or scans to the story where Emma Frost was cloned? I don't actually recall that happening to her.  You seem violently opposed to the idea that this movie just isn't related to the other four. Why is that? Is it just because I'm the one who is suggesting it? I know you are a smart guy. Which is why it strikes me as odd that you are making some arguments that, quite frankly, are grasping at straws; like Moira MacTaggart naming her daughter Moira MacTaggart, which would require her to retire from the CIA, move to Scotland, get knocked up, name the baby after herself, and all within a few years in order for the age of the second Moira to fit.
 
The Stepford Cuckoos are clones of Emma, there were a thousand clones, but most of them were killed. see X-Men Warsong

I'm not opposed to anything, i'm just arguing that it seems more likely that the movies are set in the same universe.
Why else use the exact same intro scene as the one in X1? and why use a completely random cast of characters instead of the actual first class if it is indeed a reboot?
Anyway my point is that any discrepancies can easily be explained using comic book logic, but actually... it doesn't matter if it's the same universe or not, it's a silly thing to argue about, and i'm feeling a bit stupid for getting into fanboy mode right now. Well I enjoyed the movie more than i thought i would.
Sorry if you took it personal, i don't remember everyone i argue with so i have no idea if we've had disagreements before. Though admitting that may be somewhat offensive :p
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Potential spoilers....tried to use spoilers link, but I couldn't get them to work right.  
 
 
I don't know. I admit that potentially I could have really loved this movie, but the defection of Angel and the subsequent death of Darwin really ruined the movie for me.   Perhaps because I'm a minority I can't help but feel the impact of that particular moment more keenly.  I'd even go so far as to say that they killed Darwin was a way of taking a jab at minorities.  That's why I prefer the Thor movie. It atleast made the attempt to show alittle sensitivity towards how it could be interpreted. 
 
Doesn't anyone find it alittle odd how the movie that is supposed to be about civil rights succeeds in incorporating sexist scenes that objectifies women and incorporates the potentially prejudicial  "the black guy is the first one to die"  cliché. I'm surprised that didn't manage to incorporate the homosexual stereotype of the  promiscuous and flamboyantly feminine man. Maybe there waiting to put that in the 70's version of the movie. 

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@War Killer said:
@The Mast said:
I feel that with Marvel Studios making movies that are different, yet respectful to the source, there's no excuse to make movies this far removed anymore.  I do believe that it's possible to make comic movies exact to the source
This.
Disagreed. What's the point of making it a movie if they aren't going to tell a different story? That's kind of like saying that every time a new writer takes over a series they need to remain true to their predecessor's work. Then the characters don't grow, and eventually become stagnant; then you have the fantastic four. 
 
Quite frankly, I don't care if they follow the comics or not, as long as the movie is good and they make the characters familiar. If directors stuck strictly to the source material then we never would have had Christopher Nolan's take on Batman. Making something follow the source material isn't necessarily a good thing. Look a Punisher Warzone. My brother is a huge Frank Castle fan and he constantly praises the film for getting his backstory right. That doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty movie. Just my opinion.
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@xybernauts said:
Potential spoilers....tried to use spoilers link, but I couldn't get them to work right.  
 
 
I don't know. I admit that potentially I could have really loved this movie, but the defection of Angel and the subsequent death of Darwin really ruined the movie for me.   Perhaps because I'm a minority I can't help but feel the impact of that particular moment more keenly.  I'd even go so far as to say that they killed Darwin was a way of taking a jab at minorities.  That's why I prefer the Thor movie. It atleast made the attempt to show alittle sensitivity towards how it could be interpreted. 
 
Doesn't anyone find it alittle odd how the movie that is supposed to be about civil rights succeeds in incorporating sexist scenes that objectifies women and incorporates the potentially prejudicial  "the black guy is the first one to die"  cliché. I'm surprised that didn't manage to incorporate the homosexual stereotype of the  promiscuous and flamboyantly feminine man. Maybe there waiting to put that in the 70's version of the movie. 
... 
 
Darwin died in the comics in one of his first appearances. They stated in the film that they didn't even have a body to bury. I think it's safe to say he's going to make an appearance in a future film. Darwin doesn't died, he adapts to survive. 
 
The Hellfire Club was originally a strip club in the comics. The movie was not objectifying women, it was displaying a time and place where women were objectified. You can take offense to that if you desire, but such places still exist today, whether you look at them or not.
 
Look at it this way: Angel did what she thought was right. She worked as a stripper. Shaw promised her a better future, right after slaughtering humans who had been taunting her only a few minutes before. That seems like an awfully tempting offer. Darwin then "died" a hero trying to stop Shaw. 
 
No offense, but it sounds to me like you are reading too much into things. But then again, it is how you interpreted it. 
 
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@Ferro Vida said:
@fesak: Considering that it was established in First Class that the base of his spine was shattered, I think the chances are awfully slim of him regaining the ability to walk. You are arguing that something that happened in the comics could happen in the movie because it has happened in the comics; it is possible, yes, but it is highly unlikely. None of the movies follow the plots of any X-men story arcs that I can think of. Implying that a movie is making use of established comic continuity when it has not done so for the majority of the franchise seems unlikely. Which is good, IMO, because that would just make things confusing and convoluted for a lot of people who haven't read the comics. Also, going back to a previous point, would it be possible for you to provide a link or scans to the story where Emma Frost was cloned? I don't actually recall that happening to her.  You seem violently opposed to the idea that this movie just isn't related to the other four. Why is that? Is it just because I'm the one who is suggesting it? I know you are a smart guy. Which is why it strikes me as odd that you are making some arguments that, quite frankly, are grasping at straws; like Moira MacTaggart naming her daughter Moira MacTaggart, which would require her to retire from the CIA, move to Scotland, get knocked up, name the baby after herself, and all within a few years in order for the age of the second Moira to fit.
 
The Stepford Cuckoos are clones of Emma, there were a thousand clones, but most of them were killed. see X-Men Warsong
I'm not opposed to anything, i'm just arguing that it seems more likely that the movies are set in the same universe. Why else use the exact same intro scene as the one in X1? and why use a completely random cast of characters instead of the actual first class if it is indeed a reboot? Anyway my point is that any discrepancies can easily be explained using comic book logic, but actually... it doesn't matter if it's the same universe or not, it's a silly thing to argue about, and i'm feeling a bit stupid for getting into fanboy mode right now. Well I enjoyed the movie more than i thought i would. Sorry if you took it personal, i don't remember everyone i argue with so i have no idea if we've had disagreements before. Though admitting that may be somewhat offensive :p
Fair enough, I wasn't aware they were clones. That really doesn't explain how there are two Emma Frosts, though. I mean, the Stepford Cuckoos to Emma Frost are not the same thing as Ben Riley to Peter Parker. 
 
Again, that is fair; I clearly cannot change your mind and will respect your opinions. I still think that from a directorial point of view it would make more sense to have this separate from the other films, so that other liberties can be taken with potential sequels. 
 
My problem is that comic book logic does not always work for a general audience. 
 
I also enjoyed the movie very much, and I really don't think of myself as all that memorable to begin with :p No hard feelings on my end.
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@Ferro Vida: I see your point. I knew about Darwin's death and rebirth. I really do hope they bring back Darwin. I didn't know that the Hellfire Club was a strip club in the comics too.  
 
Even if my interpretation wasn't what they intended, they probably could have and did see that it could be interpreted that way. I mean why not wait until the end of the movie to kill Darwin.  
 
It's like what they did in the Thor movie. They could have easily filled the movie with Caucasian actors and actresses, but they decided to make the world of Thor more inclusive. In doing so they concretely dispelled any potential interpretation that Marvel Asgard is white supremacist heaven. And considering how the white supremacist's responded to the racially inclusive adaption to Thor, there are people who would have interpreted that way. I just wish that X-Men First Class took the time to show the same sensitivity. 
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i really like it. By far this is the best x movie. And im tottally ansious to see the complete trilogy and watch again the original trilogy

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@Ferro Vida said:
@War Killer said:
@The Mast said:
I feel that with Marvel Studios making movies that are different, yet respectful to the source, there's no excuse to make movies this far removed anymore.  I do believe that it's possible to make comic movies exact to the source
This.
Disagreed. What's the point of making it a movie if they aren't going to tell a different story? That's kind of like saying that every time a new writer takes over a series they need to remain true to their predecessor's work. Then the characters don't grow, and eventually become stagnant; then you have the fantastic four.  Quite frankly, I don't care if they follow the comics or not, as long as the movie is good and they make the characters familiar. If directors stuck strictly to the source material then we never would have had Christopher Nolan's take on Batman. Making something follow the source material isn't necessarily a good thing. Look a Punisher Warzone. My brother is a huge Frank Castle fan and he constantly praises the film for getting his backstory right. That doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty movie. Just my opinion.
With all due respect, maybe you ought to read my whole post. Not one where my sentence was cut short, thus taking things massively out of context.
 
I said that it's entirely possible to make movies exact to the source, like Sin City or 300. I then said that if that's the case, there's almost no point making them. With that said, I don't feel departures as grand as this are respectable, simply because it's not just story departure. I consider a lot of X-Men: First Class to be travesty of characters. Iron Man was not to the source, but it greatly drew from it.
 
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@The Mast: I couldn't find your original post, and I was responding to what War Killer had quoted because it was something I felt like responding to. Do you really think that I would just reply to that portion if that was not the only portion I was addressing? 
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One final point. At the beginning of the first X-men movie Xavier says that "he started with Cyclops and a few others". Not really the case.

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I must say Banshee stole the show for me in the movie, every scene he was in was either epic or F@CKING EPIC. 
 
Loved the actor who played him as well, very cool

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Color me surprised when I came out of the movie and realized that against every prediction...the movie is quite good. 
 
I don't know whose idea it was to have it placed during the cold war but that was pure genius. The X-men have always been about fear: fear of the unknown, fear of tomorrow, fear of progress, fear of extinction, etc. Which time period resembles it better than this one? 

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This truly was a great movie. As always, Marvel out did themselves.

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I LOVED this movie.