WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN Creative Team Discuss Future Of The Book

@darthfury78 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

Dang, looks like Mystique got an upgrade.

I long to see Mystique make her debut in Spider-Man's world more than anything else in this whole wide world.

What does that have to do with anything

I kind of fell of this book a while back, not because it was bad but mainly because i am collecting over 60 different comics a month. Im dropping 10 of the books and im definetly re-adding this to my pull list, i loved the various cross overs between Unanny X Force and this, even if it was just a couple of panels here and there, it made the world feel more cohesive. Im also really keen to see what happens with Genesis, he is fast becoming one of my favourite new charcters.

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NEW MUTANTS?! That was the whole point of Hope/Scott using the Phoenix.

If Wolverine's gonna stick with anyone, I'd rather it be Domino (even though I'm sure she's gonna jump back in with Cable since they're in the new X-Force together)

If Storm's gonna get with anyone, I really think she and Quicksilver could get along pretty well...or maybe she can rekindle things with Forge

but NOT Wolverine and Storm...just not keen on that union

also, i get that these 3 new students (are there more?) fit the artist's aesthetic, but they look silly to me....and crackly skinned & winged girl, a shark boy and a guy with eyeballs randomly all over his body...meh

The only future I would find interesting would be the loss of Wolverine in the title

Le sigh, I miss the days when I actually liked X books.

Always glad to see Storm, don't know about her and Logan but please KEEP her in the books.

I refuse to let spammers have threads too. TO HELL WITH THAT!

@Super_SoldierXII said:

@FoxxFireArt said:

@Super_SoldierXII:

I get that Wolverine's issue was about kids. I'm more talking about how he's still benefiting from having an X-Force team and hiding it from his school's staff. A staff that left with him becasue they didn't want a mutant hit squad, period.

How is he 'benefiting' from it? He's not benefiting at all ... he and his team go through hell doing what they do to prevent the very worst elements from mass murdering ever again and they gain nothing in so doing.

I'm sorry, but Sabretooth rapes, tortures and murders indiscriminately and without restraint. He has proven himself to be far beyond rehabilitation. He needs to be put down before he guts another innocent person (like the defenseless woman he disemboweled on a whim in a recent issue for instance). Who's going to take Creed out, local law enforcers? Shya right. I'm all for knowing there's a team out there putting rabid dogs like that in a six foot grave. The Skinless man is another perversion. Another serial killer who gets off on mutilation and murder ... The Shadow King rapes the minds and souls of his endless victims.

Yes X-Force, please, by all means, rid humanity of their disease I say.

We have to understand it's absolute blights on humanity that X-Force was devised to do away with. Apocalypse, the mutant who keeps being reborn to commit genocide (or at least attempt such) again, and again and again. Who kills people, men women and children, as though they were less than insects ... yes, please, by all means ... stop him by any means necessary X-Force! No?

Here's the kicker; why should he have do divulge everything he is doing to kids and comrades alike when he believes he's sacrificing for the greater good and in hiding from them the darker, sadder side of life like that, is protecting them from certain harsh realities they need not be a part of, realities he would keep them from, and save them from living as he had and has, by any means necessary? He believes the world needs people like him to prevent those he loves from having to become killers like him. He's not being a hypocrite, he's manning up.

@DATNIGGA said:

@Super_SoldierXII: the whole reason behind scott's x force was to protect mutants as well.

& even though it coincides with logan's philosophy that kids shouldnt be warriors.. hes fooling himself mutant children are going to have to learn how to be solders, because of how hated they are... the last school ended cause people kept killing off the students... if you cuddle the kids & Force them to be children your only weakening them for the dark future that lye's ahead

Wolverine & Scott aren't so different but wolverine is morally worse. Wolverine kills ALL the time hes a flat out murderer hes no different from sabertooth or Dakken. he will kill at moments notice... the only difference is he has a soft side for kids & hes wolverine so no one accepts his faults. X force is a necessary evil in order to deal with specific & dire threats but if scott should be condemned for that so should logan

I agree ... but there's a danger room in the freaken bathroom from crissakes. Safe to say Logan ain't the hand holding type. He takes them on field trips to intergalactic gambling dives. (One of their next field trips will be in the Savage Land). Wolverine is not coddling these kids. He's treating them like kids, letting them be kids, while not raising them to be weak, disillusioned brats who do not know how to handle themselves. They train hard in the intelligent use of their powers daily and learn how to defend themselves. This is still Wolverine we're talking about here.

When he took out Kid Gladiator with a pressure point, after the Strontian had taken out half the Avengers, he chided him whilst doing so that he shoulda stayed in school. There is indeed combat training to be had.

He simply thinks (and rightly so) the majority of their time should be in a school, not a battlefield and / or military training regimen for mutants. He feels Scott lost sight of that. And that just because they're different, and yes, that they may face imminent danger from those who fear them, they should not be robbed of their right to be kids. Prepared kids, but kids all the same.

Wolverine is extremely different from Sabretooth and Daken. See what I wrote above to delineate the differences for starters. The fact you say he isn't tells me you don't know the character at all. Wolverine will kill soldiers trying to kill him. He will kill those that are evil and those that commit evil and those who he feels beyond redemption. So yes, he will play judge jury and executioner ... but Creed rapes, guts and murders without discretion men, women and children. Daken's morals are growing even less scrupulous of late.

Wolverine is nothing like Sabretooth and Daken in many, many ways. C'mon now.

This so far, is the best comment

@TheCowman: Argh. Marvel just doesn't care about making rules that last anymore. "Secondary Mutation", what a load of *blank*!

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@darthfury78 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

Dang, looks like Mystique got an upgrade.

I long to see Mystique make her debut in Spider-Man's world more than anything else in this whole wide world.

What does that have to do with anything

It would explain a lot. Especially given the fact that Mystique disguised herself as Felicia Hardy during the course if Spider-Man's relationship with her in the 1980's before Mary Jane returned. That might have explained her behavior and motives that led to their break-up in the first, courtesy of Raven Darkholm. The mutant responsible for Peter x Felicia's relationship to crash and burn. And, she could have pose as Kraven's lover Calypso and controlled the Lizard to kill Spider-Man. Raven's that clever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calypso_%28comics%29

@Darthfury78: I mean what does it have to do with my comment? Why did you need to reply to my original comment?

This book looks like it will have a good future.

@frochez:

no, she appeared in avx 12. the first new mutant they showed, they showed her mutation and all, but that would have been cool even though mystique did that already when she pretended to be Foxx

@FoxxFireArt: they did a one page discussion of it. they know about it and arent happy but accept it. basically he gets a pass because he's "wolverine" but cyclops, no, we hold him to a higher standard. that's the only thing i dont like about wolverine's squad, i can enjoy their books only if they dont bring up the whole cyclops thing cause they all sound like a bunch of judgemental hypocrites.