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Will Darkseid be the big bad in the Justice League movie?

It looks like we might see the ruler of Apokolips hit DC's heroes with some omega beams on the silver screen.

Not a whole lot of information has leaked about the potential Justice League movie, but tonight Latino Review posted a veeeeeeeeeery interesting exclusive.  According to the site, Darkseid will serve as the Justice League's threat in the first movie.     

 "KNEEL BEFORE DARKSEID," says Warner Bros. to Marvel Studios.
Naturally, this is a move that's going to stir up some Marvel vs DC movies controversy. For one, do I need to even draw Thanos comparisons? Yes, yes... Darkseid appeared in the comics before Thanos (1970 vs 1973), but I'm willing to bet a rather huge percentage of general moviegoers don't know that.  
 
I can understand how this is a logical choice for the studio, though. Darkseid served as the foe in The New 52's first JUSTICE LEAGUE story and, as expected, the title didn't do too shabby with sales.  The six issue arc also showcased how the characters joined forces. To me, it seems like a safe bet the film will be inspired by Geoff Johns' story. You know, assuming this reveal actually pans out.
 
Viners, what do you think about this? Are you happy with the selection or would you rather see a different villain picked for the big screen?  

Source: Latino Review
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Posted by sethysquare

@longbowhunter said:

Brainiac or Amazo. Jumping right into Darkseid...He's the ultimate threat. Where do you go from there?

Theres always the secret society, vandal savage, starro and brainiac.

Posted by Green ankh

I was hoping for another lame version of Lex

Edited by entropy_aegis

@bloggerboy said:

@Pokeysteve said:

They could always go Despero or even Amazo. I think Amazo would be awesome. He just keeps copying their abilities over the course of the movie.

This.

The movie could even have OMAC(s) in it. The OMAC Project ones that is.

I think Darkseid deserves a whole trilogy with the New Genesis/Apokolips set up, characters, etc.

This,the New Gods are waaaaaay too vast.The more I hear about this movie the more it sounds like Johns mediocre JL.

Posted by Eyz

I still think they should focus away from the cosmic stuff in these movies. The public is already having a hard time following alternate realms or creatures and whatnot...

Posted by cameron83

@InnerVenom123 said:

So it'll be pretty much the exact same plot as Avengers.

Surely this won't backfire.

Surely.

Also Marvel has thanos tightly wrapped in their movie universe.We're even (based on what I hear) seeing him in guardians of the galaxy.I didn't think DC would go through with this,because it seems like the lazy,and foolish thing to do.WOW.

Doesn't the league have some other villains or something like that?

It's always darkseid darkseid darekised,blah blah.The guy was cool in the 90's,but stopped being cool recently.

Posted by Jazon

@sethysquare said:

@Jazon said:

Methinks whoever the villain in the nest Superman movie is should be the villain in the JLA movie plus his cohorts. That way, the villain will have a background story and not someone who came out of nowhere.

and why do you need a villain with a back story? Can't it be told in the film?

it can be, but recall that there are also other team members of the JLA to be introduced. so in my opinion the villain should established in a movie prior so that the story of the JLA movie can focus on the other League members the audience may not be familiar with or because they haven't been seen in big screen before.

Edited by OutlawRenegade

I'm very happy with this news, and this is what I expected. Only Darkseid, Brainiac, Hades, or an Atlantean Invasion could live up to my expectations. I'd be really happy if this were based on the Justice League: Origin story by Geoff Johns and Jim Lee instead of an exact copy. The first 4/6 parts of that story were great, but the last two issues sucked. It just didn't end well. Darkseid would need way more of an introduction than there was in that story. Cyborg would have to be older (to be the same age as everyone else), and the cast would have to be smaller to give everyone more screen time. Save Aquaman for a movie about Atlantis invading the surface world--a la Throne of Atlantis.

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Posted by cc1738

As long as it's done correctly I'll like it.

Posted by Grishnakh

I didn't even realize we were at the stage yet where we took this Justice League movie thing seriously, I mean doesn't DC's track record mean anything?

Darkseid seems like a poor choice, they just did that in Smallville, that was what they did in Justice League Unlimited (the animated series), he's a Superman villain. Also, there's nowhere to go from there. Go for a Justice League villain like Fernus or something.

Posted by CBninja

As far as everyone saying there is no villian to go from here, look at transformers. Megaton is I all three movies as the main bad guy.

Posted by Mbecks14

Unsurprising. I'm not sure how I feel about this, it's hard to give the rumor too much credit but I think we were all expecting Darkseid anyway.

I think a Darkseid movie could definitely be cool if they did him justice as a character, but I'm nervous that he'll be flattened and boring like he was in JL: Origins. I don't think the New 52 would be a good source material pool to drink from for the movie. The title has not been what it could be, nobody feels like who they're supposed to be, and it isn't very exciting.

Plus I think Marvel really beat them to this character archetype with Thanos.

Posted by OutlawRenegade

@BoyWander said:

All I really care about is, if they do a Batman movie after, they do Court of Owls.

I agree with this 100%. It would establish Batman as not too real--like Nolans without being too weird/fake like Burton's.

Superman's movie would be Superman: Brainiac

Wonder Woman's movie could be based on a combination of her origin and the Azzarello run.

Green Lantern-- Let's hold off on Sinestro by setting him up in a War of the Red Lanterns movie

The Flash-- I'd like to see something like Gorilla Warfare or the Captain Cold Story in Flash 6 and 7 by Manapul and Buccellato.

Cyborg--???????

Posted by DarthShap

I thought it was way too soon in Johns' comics and I think the exact same thing here.

@Grishnakh said:

Darkseid seems like a poor choice, they just did that in Smallville, that was what they did in Justice League Unlimited (the animated series), he's a Superman villain. Also, there's nowhere to go from there. Go for a Justice League villain like Fernus or something.

He is no more a Superman villain than he is a Justice League villain. He is actually a New Gods/Fourth World villain.

@sethysquare said:

@longbowhunter said:

Brainiac or Amazo. Jumping right into Darkseid...He's the ultimate threat. Where do you go from there?

Theres always the secret society, vandal savage, starro and brainiac.

But none of them are ruler of APOKOLIPS, responsible for the FINAL Crisis and wielder of the OMEGA force.

Everything about Darkseid makes him the ultimate threat.

Posted by sethysquare

@DarthShap said:

I thought it was way too soon in Johns' comics and I think the exact same thing here.

@Grishnakh said:

Darkseid seems like a poor choice, they just did that in Smallville, that was what they did in Justice League Unlimited (the animated series), he's a Superman villain. Also, there's nowhere to go from there. Go for a Justice League villain like Fernus or something.

He is no more a Superman villain than he is a Justice League villain. He is actually a New Gods/Fourth World villain.

@sethysquare said:

@longbowhunter said:

Brainiac or Amazo. Jumping right into Darkseid...He's the ultimate threat. Where do you go from there?

Theres always the secret society, vandal savage, starro and brainiac.

But none of them are ruler of APOKOLIPS, responsible for the FINAL Crisis and wielder of the OMEGA force.

Everything about Darkseid makes him the ultimate threat.

so he should not be a villain in the first movie because he is the ultimate threat?

Posted by OutlawRenegade

Why do people think that if DC uses Darkseid first, then they won't have any villains to use later?

They could do an Atlantean Invasion story. They could do a story with a secret and shadowy version of the LoD/Injustice League/The Light like in Young Justice. They could use Hades. They could even make Felix Faust a servant and worshiper of the inter-dimensional god Starro (just make him a Lovecraftian as possible). It's not hard coming up with threats. Just read Grant Morrison's run for other ideas.

Posted by sethysquare

@Jazon said:

@sethysquare said:

@Jazon said:

Methinks whoever the villain in the nest Superman movie is should be the villain in the JLA movie plus his cohorts. That way, the villain will have a background story and not someone who came out of nowhere.

and why do you need a villain with a back story? Can't it be told in the film?

it can be, but recall that there are also other team members of the JLA to be introduced. so in my opinion the villain should established in a movie prior so that the story of the JLA movie can focus on the other League members the audience may not be familiar with or because they haven't been seen in big screen before.

and harry potter was able to introduce a big cast of characters and the big bad in the first movie. didn't stop it from making it awesome. majority of the audience watched the first movie before they ever started reading the book.

Posted by ceruleanlantern

I think Eclipso would be a good villian, not only are they fighting him but eclipsed citizens and possibly each other

Posted by mk111

Darkseid is awesome, so that cool.

But its funny. For years, I was hoping that he would show up in a live-action Superman film. That would have helped made them less boring.

Edited by Reignmaker

"So...what can you do?"

Please god, no. Keep Geoff Johns away from this movie.

Posted by Mbecks14

@DarthShap said:

@sethysquare said:

@longbowhunter said:

Brainiac or Amazo. Jumping right into Darkseid...He's the ultimate threat. Where do you go from there?

Theres always the secret society, vandal savage, starro and brainiac.

But none of them are ruler of APOKOLIPS, responsible for the FINAL Crisis and wielder of the OMEGA force.

Everything about Darkseid makes him the ultimate threat.

That's exactly what he said. Darkseid is the ultimate threat, and it's hard to follow up after him.

Posted by DarthShap

@sethysquare said:

@DarthShap said:

I thought it was way too soon in Johns' comics and I think the exact same thing here.

@Grishnakh said:

Darkseid seems like a poor choice, they just did that in Smallville, that was what they did in Justice League Unlimited (the animated series), he's a Superman villain. Also, there's nowhere to go from there. Go for a Justice League villain like Fernus or something.

He is no more a Superman villain than he is a Justice League villain. He is actually a New Gods/Fourth World villain.

@sethysquare said:

@longbowhunter said:

Brainiac or Amazo. Jumping right into Darkseid...He's the ultimate threat. Where do you go from there?

Theres always the secret society, vandal savage, starro and brainiac.

But none of them are ruler of APOKOLIPS, responsible for the FINAL Crisis and wielder of the OMEGA force.

Everything about Darkseid makes him the ultimate threat.

so he should not be a villain in the first movie because he is the ultimate threat?

What is so hard to understand about the word "ultimate"? ^^

Posted by OutlawRenegade

Why do people think that if DC uses Darkseid first, then they won't have any villains to use later?

They could do an Atlantean Invasion story. They could do a story with a secret and shadowy version of the LoD/Injustice League/The Light like in Young Justice. They could use Hades. They could even make Felix Faust a servant and worshiper of the inter-dimensional god Starro (just make him as Lovecraftian as possible). It's not hard coming up with threats. Just read Grant Morrison's run for other ideas.

You can do any story as long as you tell the story well. Make it feel like a deeper film--like Star Trek or Dark Knight. That will set your tone apart from a popcorn movie like the Avengers. Also, it wouldn't hurt if you release your movie first--the same way Iron Man beat the Dark Knight to theaters. People didn't have to compare Iron Man to the Dark Knight when it came out at first.

Also, if anyone has seen Rise of the Guardians, then you know that you don't really need lead-in films for iconic characters--even if the general public doesn't know who all the characters are or what their origins are.

And 2015 is still a ways away. X-Men: First Class was made in far less time.

Posted by DarthShap

@OutlawRenegade said:

Why do people think that if DC uses Darkseid first, then they won't have any villains to use later?

They could do an Atlantean Invasion story. They could do a story with a secret and shadowy version of the LoD/Injustice League/The Light like in Young Justice. They could use Hades. They could even make Felix Faust a servant and worshiper of the inter-dimensional god Starro (just make him a Lovecraftian as possible). It's not hard coming up with threats. Just read Grant Morrison's run for other ideas.

It is not that somehow there will not be any villain to use, it is just that you cannot top Darkseid, the ultimate threat. If Justice League is to become a franchise, that is going to be huge problem.

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@DarthShap said:

@sethysquare said:

@DarthShap said:

I thought it was way too soon in Johns' comics and I think the exact same thing here.

@Grishnakh said:

Darkseid seems like a poor choice, they just did that in Smallville, that was what they did in Justice League Unlimited (the animated series), he's a Superman villain. Also, there's nowhere to go from there. Go for a Justice League villain like Fernus or something.

He is no more a Superman villain than he is a Justice League villain. He is actually a New Gods/Fourth World villain.

@sethysquare said:

@longbowhunter said:

Brainiac or Amazo. Jumping right into Darkseid...He's the ultimate threat. Where do you go from there?

Theres always the secret society, vandal savage, starro and brainiac.

But none of them are ruler of APOKOLIPS, responsible for the FINAL Crisis and wielder of the OMEGA force.

Everything about Darkseid makes him the ultimate threat.

so he should not be a villain in the first movie because he is the ultimate threat?

What is so hard to understand about the word "ultimate"? ^^

Joker was the ultimate threat for batman and he was not present in the final film.

Lex Luthor has always been the ultimate threat for Superman, not matter how many alien superthreats comes along, lex luthor has always been the only that would defeat superman, mentally and strategically. Yet lex was in the first movie for Superman the movie.

I just don't buy the idea that just cos Darkseid is the ultimate threat he should be in the last film. Even if he is in the second film, people would say the same thing again, where do we go from here.

Besides, Darkseid isn't really a JL villain, but a New Gods villain. Starro and Secret Society has always been more associated with JL.

IMO

Posted by DarthShap

@sethysquare said:

@DarthShap said:

@sethysquare said:

@DarthShap said:

I thought it was way too soon in Johns' comics and I think the exact same thing here.

@Grishnakh said:

Darkseid seems like a poor choice, they just did that in Smallville, that was what they did in Justice League Unlimited (the animated series), he's a Superman villain. Also, there's nowhere to go from there. Go for a Justice League villain like Fernus or something.

He is no more a Superman villain than he is a Justice League villain. He is actually a New Gods/Fourth World villain.

@sethysquare said:

@longbowhunter said:

Brainiac or Amazo. Jumping right into Darkseid...He's the ultimate threat. Where do you go from there?

Theres always the secret society, vandal savage, starro and brainiac.

But none of them are ruler of APOKOLIPS, responsible for the FINAL Crisis and wielder of the OMEGA force.

Everything about Darkseid makes him the ultimate threat.

so he should not be a villain in the first movie because he is the ultimate threat?

What is so hard to understand about the word "ultimate"? ^^

Joker was the ultimate threat for batman and he was not present in the final film.

Lex Luthor has always been the ultimate threat for Superman, not matter how many alien superthreats comes along, lex luthor has always been the only that would defeat superman, mentally and strategically. Yet lex was in the first movie for Superman the movie.

I just don't buy the idea that just cos Darkseid is the ultimate threat he should be in the last film. Even if he is in the second film, people would say the same thing again, where do we go from here.

Besides, Darkseid isn't really a JL villain, but a New Gods villain. Starro and Secret Society has always been more associated with JL.

IMO

There is nothing "ultimate" about the Joker (although I do think that the third film suffers from its reveal that the last villain was...Talia) or Lex Luthor (who, because he was introduced this early was used way too much in the sequels IMO). To Darkseid however, it is inherent to his character and to his entire mythos.

Edited by darkwingdan

I'm not at all surprised by this news. And considering that Justice League comics have been published regularly for decades, we shouldn't be worried about WB blowing it's load in the first Justice League movie.

On another, somewhat-related note, I understand the skepticism about WB's approach to these movies. We've all seen what Marvel did, and it worked. And we all saw what happened with Green Lantern. However, I'm of the mindset where a) this movie could turn out really good and b) we haven't seen any production photos, designs, etc. People are using terms like "rushed" to describe this, even though we only have a writer, release date (which is still 3 years out) and [now] a villain announced. We really don't have a reason to hate this movie other than they aren't doing what Marvel is, and what we do know seems to be copying. Because there has never been copying of any type in either comic books or other media.

I know this is the internet, so irrationality and skepticism are status quo, but how about we try to be optimistic about how this turns out? Good work from both studios [Marvel & WB] leads to a little healthy competition, which ultimately benefits us fans.

Posted by sora_thekey

The JL don't have a lot of villains do they...

Avengers sort of share their villains with one another so it's easier to chose who will be the team's threat vs the solo movie's villain.

Too bad the team can't go with the Martian invasion route like int Justice League Animated Series. That might seem too much like the first Avengers movie. Problem now is that this Darkseid's appearance might be too much like Thanos' in Avengers 2.

Either way, JL/DC/WB will look like they are copying Marvel/Disney.

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Posted by The Stegman

...Oh geez...

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Posted by slade_wilson

Here's what they do: Go ahead with using Darkseid as the primary movie villain. That will draw in a ton of old fans and some new ones to see what DC may have over Marvel. Then subtly introduce Vandal Savage in some form. Maybe he was collaborating with Darkseid or he starts some new threat at the end setting up a sequel. In the sequel, we see the Legion of Doom with Savage as their leader or the Light from Young Justice as the villains. Heck, maybe I can show up in the sequel.

Posted by n25philly

If they aren't going to take time to introduce all the characters in their own movies then I think one big bad like this is a bad idea. I would start the movie off by having a short scene of each character fighting one of their most well known villains and defeating them giving the audience a taste for each of the characters personalities right off the bat. Then have the same villains be tired of losing on the own and decide to team up and take each of the individual heroes out at a time. After figuring out what is happening the heroes need to team up and learn how to work together to defeat the villains and at the end of the film decide to continue working together. There are so many characters to introduce, it would be difficult to get them all enough screen time to become familiar otherwise. You can always bring up the really big villains in the sequels

Posted by Crash_Recovery

I hope not. There's not a lot of fun for me in seeing a group of super folks (on film) fight one big guy, whether that be Darkseid or Thanos.

I'd rather see the League square off against a counter-group of villains.

Posted by Zeeguy91

@sora_thekey: The Justice League's rogues gallery isn't as limited as you think. Darkseid may be their most threatening villain, but there's also Despero, Amazo, Solomon Grundy (although he's on Earth 2 now), T.O. Morrow, the Legion of Doom, Vandal Savage, Prometheus, Queen Bee, and Starro.

Truthfully, I think having Darkseid as the first one is jumping the gun a bit. Although, if Darkseid's up to bat first, I definitely like to see Amazo and Prof. Ivo as the next movie's villains.

Posted by EvanTheMexiJew

I would've preferred they used the White Martians, like in Morison's run. Darkseid does seem a little too big to be the main villain in the first movie, but maybe DC still has some tricks up its sleeve. They could still use the Injustice League,Ra's Al Ghul, the White Martians or maybe even the Anti-Monitor.

Posted by theTimeStreamer

@sethysquare said:

@theTimeStreamer said:

this idea is stupid. we dont know jack about their universe. we dont know what is normal or not. and they just throw dc's biggest baddie at us and expect us to be cool with it. give us some backstory, something to go on. the universe is 100% NOT like the comic one.

Huh? What backstory do you want? Don't you think you're being a little ridiculous?

You didn't need any back story for green goblin in spiderman 1.

you also didnt need any back story for scarecrow in batman 1.

neither did you need any back story for loki in thor.

there also wouldn't be any back story for thanos in avengers 2.

So whats the difference? You want some back story? try wikipedia

you got backstory for loki and green goblin. batman was a mess. they are throwing way too many characters at the screen and expect them to stick. all of the leaguers. who are they? do they have family alive? do they have existent villains? not to mention what are the heroes secret identities. batman and superman are easy but the rest are not known to the public. they wont have alot of time for backstories and it will be messy. now you can continue to be the dick ive seen you to be when dc is involved or see reason. up to you.

Posted by StMichalofWilson

I think the character should be played by some big guy who can really act cause the person I was thinking of is already gone(RIP Michael Duncan).

Also, you know who should voice the character?

Michael Ironside.

Edited by MP_SimonWilliams

Wow, they just can't do DARKSEID in this movie.....Darkseid and his parademons will seem like a direct ripoff of Thanos and the Chitauri invasion. Even though we who are into comic books know better, you have to remember that 75% of the ticket buying audience will be unfamiliar with the comic books at any level. So it will come across as a total ripoff. Darkseid's one of my favorites, but they can't do it.

I would go a super-villain team route and do a Legion of Doom type of thing --- using General Zod, the baddie from Superman, as a launch point. Have Luthor be the main organizer ----- and have the villains attacking various things separately before Batman pieces it all together as one, coordinated society of villains. Besides, the villain team thing hasn't really been done yet.....at least not done well. (Not counting the X-men movies.)

Go all in and use a devastating team of cool bad-guys as the Legion. The main thing is to have a role for each JLA member to play......Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern, Flash, etc.....can't just be there in the background. They need to have a reason to be in the fight. It would take good writing, but they can pull it together. Darkseid can come later.

Posted by Vitality

Bad Idea. He should be in a sequel...to top the big bad of the first one.

Posted by The Stegman
@MP_SimonWilliams: I think the Legion of Doom route would be a bad road to go down for this movie. Since there are no prequel tie ins, it would mean that the movie would not only have to introduce every member of the JL but also the villains in the Legion as well, and why they hate their hero counterpart, that would make the movie really, really long (or at least, it should be or else it would be rushed. ) I say the Legion is a great choice, AFTER we see the villains face off with their heroes in solo movies, Mirror Master or Grodd in a Flash movie, Circe or Cheetah in a Wonder Woman Movie, Sinestro in Green Lantern Sequel, but for the first movie, I would want to have to introduce TWO teams of people. 
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Posted by SHAZAM117

Personally I could really care less if he's in the movie at this point. It'd be cool to see him on the big screen, tho I'm still skeptical this movie is even going to get made. This movie just screams "train-wreck" and has been nothing but rumors and speculation...Nothing exsist about it other than heresay and a supposed script written by Will Beall?!

Posted by pxiao

Is Warner Brothers trying to directly compete with Marvel, it feels like they are. Which is a stupid idea, Avengers was the highest grossing movie of the year, and 3rd of all time, with nearly everyone saying it is awesome. Even if Justice League has Batman and Superman, the idea of the Justice League will seem to be a rip off of the Avengers. I mean in the same year as Avengers 2, and a villain similar to Avengers 2's and the fact they restarted production after hearing of the Avengers success. It feels like DC is trying to piggyback off of Marvel's success without trying to make a quality product. DC take your time, you have learned from Marvel before do it again. I mean lets look at Arrow, everyone thought he was a rip off of Hawkeye.

Posted by Thunderscream

Considering Thanos is supposed to be the villain in the Avengers sequel, I think it would behoove DC to avoid using Darkseid since he and Thanos are so similar (at least they are to me)

Posted by Miss_Garrick

Half of me is thinking: "Thanos copycats!", but the other half is thinking: "Well it's not like there IS any other epic villian for DC to use."

Posted by DEGRAAF

Villains for Justice League Movies:

Any being from Darkseid's Elite leading up to the introduction of Darkseid

Cheetah (if she is as fearsome and powerful as they are now making her to be in the New 52)

Mongul - The son preferably, possibly with a lantern ring would be a nice touch and nod to the Lantern universe

Zod and team of Kryptonian soldiers

The Olympians

Invasion from Thanagar

The hyper Clan would be interesting also

I wouldnt mind them changing the Blackest Night story a little bit starting with a JL movie that has the Sinestro Corps invading Earth to find an ancient power more powerful then any corps known in the universe Rumored to Sinestro by Abin Sur as the power that will save the universe. So of course Sinestro is looking for it as the ultimate weapon to destroy anything in its path as well as trying to prepare for the Darkest night (while he doesnt know what that actually has in store)

Edited by k4tzm4n

Fascinating.  I had no idea so many people have come back from the future just to tell us Darkseid is a terrible choice and the movie is bad.  Since you've clearly already seen it, mind telling us who directed it and who was in the main roster? 
 
Sarcasm aside, my point is too many people jump to strong conclusions without all of the facts. First and foremost, this isn't 100% confirmed. And, if it does follow through, we have no idea how it'll be handled in the final product (unless you've somehow read the final script, know who's directing, etc... which is impossible at this point).  Concern over choices is a perfectly reasonable thing, but there's a huge difference between expressing concern over a choice and jumping to conclusions without even half the facts. It's just silly to me. Yes, they're not  following the same formula as Marvel Studios (team movie before most), but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing.  In the right hands, we can get a good taste of each character and, in turn, that'll hugely increase public interest in the lesser known characters and massively boost the odds of solo movies for them.  Without giving the public something to like first, I imagine an Aquaman movie might look like too big of a risk in their minds. 
 
Anyway, this is something I see far too frequently among fans when it comes to comic book movies (*cough* Heath Ledger for example*cough*).  Now, like I said, skepticism in a reasonable manner is totally valid. Warner Bros. doesn't have a great track record when it comes to hero movies and this could indeed be very tough to pull off. But, let's wait and see if the success of Marvel's The Avengers has opened their eyes and made them realize they need to do this movie... for a lack of better words... justice. Personally, I'm most interesting in seeing who they'll pick to direct.

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Posted by DarkShadows

Darkseid is perhaps an excellent choice for the movie (though I would rather see him in a sequel if the movie is ever successful), but the bad thing is that a lot of people who's going to watch the movie are the people who doesn't read the comics. They're going to say that Darkseid is a copycat of Thanos blah, blah, blah, even though Darkseid came first.

Posted by ComicMan24

Darkseid would be a reasonable choice for the big Bad. And hopefully if he is the one, they won't change him a lot like they did in Smallville. And yeah sure there might a lot who are going to say that they are ripping off Marvel and the Avengers movie with this, especially among non comic book readers but if you think about it, Thanos barely appeared in nthe movie, being only in one after-credits scene while I would like to believe that Darkseid is going to be in the entire movie lol And it is highly possible to think that the first arc of new Justice League book might be used for them to adapt even though if you ask me, it was rather meh.

Posted by evilvegeta74

Thanos may have appeared after Darkseid, but this looks like a copycat game from DC. You have Marvel using Thanos as ther big bad in the next Avengers movie, now Dc wants to put Darkseid in the Justice League movie. Two simlar characters,with similar looks to confuse audiences. Come on DC, didn't Starro, originally cause the League to form, I can't remember.I like the idea of Darkseid but it's just too close to the release of the second Avengers movie with Thanos, talk about confusion. Darkseid should be in the Superman movie as a villian, not just popping out of the blue sounds, like the movie will be mashed together.

Posted by AlexMarks

Well I think that the White Martians would be cool. Also, I think General Zod could be DC's Loki if they wanted to connect the Man of Steel movie with the other movies. I think Darkseid will be a cool baddie! Also, if the movie is successful they have to do a Tower of Babel movie, in my opinion.

Posted by xxxddd

The Avengers has managed to kicked off the summer with a bang, making a billion dollars like it was nothing.

AVENGERS

While The Dark Knight Rises will certainly offer some fierce competition for The Avengers later this summer, on the whole DC's recent movie efforts have been surprisingly weak. Green Lantern debuted to a tepid reception last summer, while other characters like Wonder Woman and Flash seem locked in development hell. As for a Justice League team-up movie? Who knows when we'll ever see that materialize.

With The Dark Knight Rises wrapping up Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy, it's clear DC and Warner Bros. need to refocus and work on building up their superhero stable in Hollywood. Marvel has set the stage for their franchises, so what about DC? Let me explain some things...

No Unnecessary Reboots

Ever since The Dark Knight made a billion dollars for Warner's, the word “reboot” has been tossed around Hollywood in conjunction with just about every dormant superhero franchise there is -- Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Superman, etc. Some studios seem to believe that the great lesson to take away from Christopher Nolan's Bat trilogy is that the surest path to success is to start over, make everything darker, grittier, and more realistic, and make sure the main character is ready to scream at you in a menacing growl.

While Superman and Spider-Man are getting the full-on reboot treatment, we're noticing a promising trend with many of these projects. Films like Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, Punisher: War Zone, and Incredible Hulk aren't necessarily sequels to the previous installments, but the filmmakers don't waste an inordinate amount of time rehashing the characters' respective origin stories either. More often than not, studios can assume that audiences either remember the character from past movies or are intelligent enough to pick up on the necessary details. It isn't rocket science their spouting, but hammers of

At this point, Warners has lost a lot of ground to Marvel Studios in the past five years. Marvel has successfully established an entire team of cinematic heroes, many of whom now qualify as franchises in their own right. Meanwhile, Warner has been coasting on the success of Nolan's Bat films, with only the... uhh...Green Lantern as an attempt to develop a new superhero franchise. They don't have that much time as they use to, they need to start now with a Justice League movie!

That said, there's no way the filmmakers can deliver a satisfying film if they're struggling to introduce and establish seven different heroes. Therefore, they'll need to assume viewers know who most of these characters are and don't need complicated origin stories. The new Superman will have already been established in next year's Man of Steel. Even if the movie offers a new take on Green Lantern, the previous film still laid out the basics of the character and his world. Everyone knows who Batman is. There's really no need to make viewers sit through half a dozen solo films just to get to the big team-up. Instead, let the JLA movie introduce the new Hollywood versions of Wonder Woman, Flash, etc. and then spin them out into solo franchises (or you could make another Green Lantern film... Just Sayin')

Pace the Story

We've seen plenty of solo superhero adventures on the big screen by now, but prior to The Avengers, the only real team-based movies on tap were the X-Men and Fantastic Four franchises. Studios and filmmakers are still wrestling with the challenges of juggling so many heroes in one film. The first three X-Men movies are infamous for prioritizing Wolverine over all the other X-Men.

The Avengers juggled its various major players well considering the large cast and limited amount of room to work with. This is a lesson Warners will need to take to heart. Assuming they move straight ahead with the JLA movie, their challenges will be even greater. The script will need to properly introduce each of the individual heroes and develop a working dynamic over the course of two or three hours.

Part of the strategy Joss Whedon employed in The Avengers was to emphasize certain Avengers over the others. At its core, the movie was more focused on Tony Stark and Bruce Banner's personal journeys than the rest. Meanwhile, Hawkeye's role was downplayed relative to the rest of the team. This approach may upset fans of specific characters, but at the end of the day there's only so much you can accomplish in one film. Better to focus on the characters with the deepest connection to the conflict than struggle to find equal screen time for all. Otherwise, why not just make a TV show? And as long as the JLA movie doesn't hinge too heavily on one character a la the X-Men movies, fans will be able to roll with the punches.

Don't Skimp on the Humor

Marvel Studios' decision to put Joss Whedon in control of The Avengers paid off handsomely. Whedon has always been renowned for his distinctive humor, witty banter, and focus on character dynamics. Many unfamiliar Whedon fans were surprised to discover just how funny The Avengers was (including me). Hulk's brief battle with Loki made me die of laughter!

There's a place for dark, intensely dramatic storytelling in superhero movies. But it doesn't belong in a JLA film any more than it did in Avengers. Warner's' movie needs to be fun, and in some places it needs to be funny. The script should exploit all of the distinct character dynamics comic readers have grown to love over the decades. Like Thor, we should see Wonder Woman being out of touch with the mortal world. Like Iron Man, Green Lantern should be the cocky, wisecracking jerk who knows how to push buttons. Batman's grim demeanor should be used for its own brand of comedy.

It's easy to keep viewers captivated during extended battle sequences when buildings are exploding and aliens are being smacked from one side of the city to the other. All that requires is money. It's the quieter moments in between the big battles that can make or break a superhero movie. Warner's will need to find their own Joss Whedon to bring out the fun. If JLA can't make viewers laugh and get them emotionally invested in the various characters, it doesn't stand a chance of competing on The Avengers' level.

A Truly Epic Villain

As it reads in their mission statement, the Avengers were created “to fight the foes no single hero could withstand.” When you bring the team together, you can't have them fight just any old assortment of villains. A team-up between past Marvel villains (Red Skull, Abomination, etc) may have been a logical next step, but it wouldn't have brought the scale and sense of danger that pairing a fallen Asgardian god with an entire race of imperialistic aliens did. An ensemble superhero film needs a foe that really puts the full team to the test.

This is even more true for the JLA. In terms of powers and abilities, the core JLA cast far outranks the Avengers squad seen in the movie. Between the all-powerful Superman, warrior supreme Wonder Woman, the fearless and inventive Green Lantern, and the hyper-fast Flash, the JLA are almost like gods in the DC Universe. They need a foe that can provide a true challenge to all of that combined might.

Darkseid is a logical choice. This stony villain is a god in a more literal sense, ruling over the hellish planet of Apokolips for hundreds of thousands of years and searching endlessly for the elusive Anti-Life Equation. Darkseid even served as the foe that first battled the JLA in Geoff Johns and Jim Lee's recent, revamped origin tale.

Oh, and a spoilers... Since Thanos made his appearance, were are gonna need a big DC threat. That still leaves plenty of other options -- Amazo, Despero, the White Martians -- or even full teams of villains like the Secret Society of Supervillains or the Crime Syndicate. We just don't want to see some sort of tepid team-up between Lex Luthor and Joker driving the movie forward. The JLA are a team of incredibly powerful heroes, and they need a challenge that reflects that.

Don't be Afraid to Get Comic Book-y

With the rise of the Nolan Bat films,general viewers only think that they want realism in their superhero movies. These three movies have hand-picked the villains most suited to a more realistic and down-to-Earth version of the DCU. And that's why we'll never see teenaged sidekicks or Nolan's take on foes like Clayface or Killer Croc. Even at the beginning of the Marvel Studios movement, heroes and villains were steeped in science fiction rather than fantasy, and everything had a vaguely plausible aura about it.

Thor was Marvel's first attempt at dipping their toes into a larger, more colorful universe. Suddenly, viewers were seeing heroic conflicts steeped in fantasy and mythology rather than science fiction. The rainbow bridges and enchanted battle-suits of Thor paved the way for alien armies and cosmic cubes in The Avengers. By now, it's safe to say that audiences don't care if their superhero films are plausible and grounded in the real world.

The DC Universe is arguably even weirder and more crammed with eccentric characters and concepts than the Marvel Universe. This is a universe where Death is a happy-go-lucky goth chick, where an orphan boy can become the world's mightiest mortal by speaking a single word, and where the ability to eat anything is an actual super-power. There's no reason the JLA movie can't begin to take advantage of these elements. As long as the characters themselves are believable and true, the conflicts and settings can be as outlandish as the budget and effects technology will allow.

What Failed Before Can Still Work

The Avengers is frequently praised as being the greatest Hulk movie ever filmed. And it's true. Marvel's previous Hulk efforts were flawed at best, failing to achieve the popularity or box office success of franchises like Iron Man or Spider-Man. And until very recently, Marvel gave every indication that they were planning to skip a Hulk sequel during the next round of solo films. But thanks to Hulk's new found popularity in The Avengers and Mark Ruffalo's shiny new contract, that stance appears to be rapidly shifting.

Neither Green Lantern nor Superman Returns were the box office smashes Warner's was expecting them to be. But disappointing as they may have been, the studio shouldn't take that as a sign that viewers simply don't care about the characters. Superman Returns stumbled because it spent more time paying homage to the past than offering a fresh, exciting take on the character. Green Lantern fell flat because of a dull plot and characters who recalled too little of the depth and fun of the comics (being sandwiched between high-profile Marvel movies didn't help, either).

While I hope Man of Steel will have already done this for Superman, there's no reason a JLA movie can't revitalize these two characters every bit as capably as Avengers did for Hulk. These characters have remained vibrant in the comics all this time for a reason. The fact that DC's live-action adaptations have done a spotty job of adapting most of the JLA members doesn't mean these characters can't become as wildly successful as Iron Man and Captain America. It just requires a stronger, more focused effort.

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Although the gl should be John Stewart and not Hal Jordan.

Posted by JayJayCAW

if they do this.....MICHAEL IRONSIDE HAS TO VOICE DARKSEID!!!!!!! I dont care who the stand in actor is, the voice has to be Ironside lol

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