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Why Gwen Stacy Was Peter Parker's Greatest Love

Gwen Stacy may not have been Peter's first girlfriend, but she was his very first love -- and possibly, his greatest.

Sometimes the first love isn't the greatest love; but the most memorable. Many people consider Gwen Stacy to be Peter Parker's very first love, but she wasn't. That honor goes to Betty Brant, who dated Peter Parker long before he met Gwen. But maybe fans remember Gwen as the first because she was so important in the very beginning; perhaps that's why so many fans look at Parker's relationship with Gwen Stacy with fondness, and as the characters first -- because it may not have been Parker's first relationship, but it was definitely Parker's first "true love."

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Yet you can't bring up Gwen Stacy as Spider-Man's great love and not mention Mary Jane Watson. So, how does Gwen stack up to MJ? Both of these women have had a tremendous impact on Peter's life and on the man he is today, but which of these women is the love of his life? Personally, I think Gwen takes the cake; and in honor of her upcoming on-screen film appearance as Peter Parker's love interest, I'll delve into exactly why I believe Gwen Stacy was the greatest love of Peter Parker's life.

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When we think of MJ, we think back to the moment when Peter Parker first opened his front door and set eyes on her; when he had just "hit the jackpot." He was smitten -- then again, who wouldn't be? At first glance Mary Jane Watson was something to behold. She is stunning. That's not to say that Peter didn't feel a little bit of what he felt with MJ, when he first met Gwen Stacy, though. Sure, Gwen was beautiful; but with Gwen, it was a relationship that went beyond the physical.

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It was something that existed on a mental level; they connected in a very different way. Peter Parker was always considered something of a bookworm, and Gwen was where he met his match. I think that's what makes her relationship with Peter a little bit different. It's a romance that seems almost deeper because they have that in common. They are both two very intelligent characters, and could get along because of that.

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Theirs was a love so deep that, I think, if Gwen hadn't died at the hands of the Green Goblin, Peter Parker would have married her rather than MJ. If you think back to the first few pages of SPIDER-MAN: BLUE, Parker hints at that very notion. Gwen was so important to Parker that he was "going to spend the rest of his life with her." That's a pretty big deal. You don't just choose any random person to spend the rest of your life with. And that's something that Mary Jane recognizes, too. On more than one occasion MJ has pointed out that she believes Peter loved Gwen Stacy, "maybe even more" than he loved her [MJ]. In the scene where Mary Jane is about to reveal Gwen Stacy's secret to Peter in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #512, she has tears in her eyes when she says that she didn't want to "destroy the memory of the one person you [Peter Parker] loved almost as much as me…Maybe more." I think Mary Jane knows and realizes that if Gwen hadn't died, she and Peter may not have gotten together after all. More importantly, Mary Jane may not have changed.

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Characters die so often in comic books that readers often find themselves immune to their deaths. It's hard to feel something that's supposed to be so powerful when death is constantly being used as a plot device in some of our favorite books. Yet, when Gwen Stacy died, so did the Silver Age of comics. Hers was the first real, raw, unexpected death in comic books that made readers feel as if some of these characters are merely mortals. That they may be ageless, but they can die. And like death, it can come at the most unexpected moment. See, so much died with Gwen Stacy, and so much changed. Her death caused a ripple effect in the Marvel universe that not only changed the status-quot, but changed Spider-Man as a character. It wasn't just Peter, either. Gwen's murder changed Mary Jane. MJ was no longer the happy-go-lucky party girl that she had been; she learned from Gwen's death and realized that life is fleeting; she won't live forever, and our actions have repercussions. If Gwen hadn't died, MJ wouldn't have changed and she probably never would have married Peter.

Peter will always look fondly on the memory of Gwen Stacy as one of his first loves, but is she his greatest love of all? If Gwen hadn't died, would Peter have still married Mary Jane? What do you think? Who do you believe is the greatest love of Spider-Man's life, and why? Be sure to check out Tony's argument for why he believes Mary Jane is Spidey's greatest love, and let us know what you think in the comments below.

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And she isn't as smart as him...

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Why are all the examples from recent books? The original stories that featured Gwen Stacy are way better, and prove the point that she's the best Spider-Man Girlfriend better as well.

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Great write up Sara, but I still say it's MJ.

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mj all day... gwen f*cked osborn... f*ckin b*tch

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Dozens of examples on why Mary Jane is and always will be Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-man's greatest love.

http://www.comicvine.com/mary-jane/29-13380/favorite-mjpeterspidey-moments/92-575530/#83

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I think Gwen's was the possibility that was never explored, but MJ was his greatest and true love. Putting Gwen up on this pedestal does her no favours. She was an intelligent, sweet girl. But there was one thing that seriously makes me hates her for cheating on Peter.

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Hell, marvel hasn't even bothered to retcon it.

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Your first true love is your first true love and nothing can change that. Sometimes you lose those feelings by just trying to survive without them. Whatever the deal, everyone comes with baggage. I think Mary Jane is undoubtedly the person Pete is ultimately meant to be with, but I dont think he could have gotten to her without having first met Gwen. Mary Jane was the one he was gonna have a little girl with. Now thats ruined.

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Both Mary Jane and Gwen Stacy are great characters and both really complement Peter, but I am on the side of Gwen Stacy in the long run. There was just something that clicked between the two of them and it just felt better. Not that I have anything against MJ (not at all), just that Gwen (at least in the main Marvel Universe) had a better connection to Peter.

If we get started on the Ultimate Universe, then it's Kitty and Peter all the way XD

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No. MJ is his greatest love. With MJ it was real unconditional love.

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Man I really don't know....... the first Spidey real contact I ever had was "Spectacular Spiderman" cartoon, and till I knew all that stuff of she dead and MJ and blah blah, I became to like more Gwen...... but hell, MJ is AWESOME too.........

Arrrrrrg Why u so contrary CV?!? I know there's different people and not always can have same opinions...... but you're staring to make mess my head :S

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Props to Sara for the dissention. <3 Gwen Stacy :D

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Don't even have to read all of the article to agree that Gwen was indeed Peter's best and true love.

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Are they having Gwen's neck snap in the film?

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Gwen Stacy is hardly his greatest love. The only reason she's held in such high regard is because she died before she had a chance to find her way off the pedestal he'd placed her on. Had she survived, their relationship would have gotten past the honeymoon stage, and Peter would have found something about her that annoyed him. Maybe she'd fart in her sleep, or she would chew really loudly (and while it wouldn't bother him at first, it wound start to grate after a while), or something equally petty. Perhaps their relationship would have imploded spectacularly before long, anyway, because they wanted different things, or she was screwing Flash, Harry, and Jonah.

Either way, her abrupt death has rendered her sacrosanct.

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@Hareil0079 said:

This would almost sell me to start reading SM comics... almost

Exactly!

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@TheTimShow said:

Are they having Gwen's neck snap in the film?

They've basically confirmed it for the second movie in interviews.

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Gwen even though she isn't as popular as Mary Jane she still impacted him more

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Sorry, MJ takes the cake for me. I knew about MJ and even Betty before I knew who Gwen was. MJ has always been to Spiderman what Lois is to Superman.

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@oraclefyre said:

I think Gwen's was the possibility that was never explored, but MJ was his greatest and true love. Putting Gwen up on this pedestal does her no favours. She was an intelligent, sweet girl. But there was one thing that seriously makes me hates her for cheating on Peter.

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Hell, marvel hasn't even bothered to retcon it.

Come on, that retcon doesn't count. You are talking about seriously stupid rewrite that a hack writer did in the last few years. The whole Gwen/Norman back from the died thing was probably one of the lamest and most offensive things Marvel has done in a long time.

Gwen over MJ any day. MJ was nothing but trouble until they revamped her character in the 90's made her the girl for Peter.

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@VercingetorixTheGreat said:

If Gwen hadn't hadn't done the deed with Norman I think she would be the best. But she did sleep with him and that makes MJ better

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@Luthorcrow said:

@oraclefyre said:

I think Gwen's was the possibility that was never explored, but MJ was his greatest and true love. Putting Gwen up on this pedestal does her no favours. She was an intelligent, sweet girl. But there was one thing that seriously makes me hates her for cheating on Peter.

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Hell, marvel hasn't even bothered to retcon it.

Come on, that retcon doesn't count. You are talking about seriously stupid rewrite that a hack writer did in the last few years. The whole Gwen/Norman back from the died thing was probably one of the lamest and most offensive things Marvel has done in a long time.

Gwen over MJ any day. MJ was nothing but trouble until they revamped her character in the 90's made her the girl for Peter.

"Revamped"? I prefer character development. She's been with Peter through thick and thin. Hell, Pete and MJ are considered the Lois and Clark of Marvel.

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None of them should have the Phoenix force.

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@oraclefyre said:

@Luthorcrow said:

@oraclefyre said:

I think Gwen's was the possibility that was never explored, but MJ was his greatest and true love. Putting Gwen up on this pedestal does her no favours. She was an intelligent, sweet girl. But there was one thing that seriously makes me hates her for cheating on Peter.

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Hell, marvel hasn't even bothered to retcon it.

Come on, that retcon doesn't count. You are talking about seriously stupid rewrite that a hack writer did in the last few years. The whole Gwen/Norman back from the died thing was probably one of the lamest and most offensive things Marvel has done in a long time.

Gwen over MJ any day. MJ was nothing but trouble until they revamped her character in the 90's made her the girl for Peter.

"Revamped"? I prefer character development. She's been with Peter through thick and thin. Hell, Pete and MJ are considered the Lois and Clark of Marvel.

Look, I understand you prefer MJ that is cool but comparing MJ and Peter to Louis and Clark is silly. Louis has the been the girl in Superman's life since the character was created. I mean she was in Issue #1 of Action Comics. MJ was never the main love in his life for the first 22 years of the comic. She was at best an on again and off again heartache until they changed her character in the 90s. Prior to that MJ was the epitome of unreliable. On top of that her character didn't appear until Amazing Spiderman #25 a full three years after Spiderman was introduced. MJ and Peter do not start a lasting relationship until The Amazing Spider-Man #259 a full 22 years after Spiderman first appears in comics.

We can debate whether Gwen or MJ is the girl but Peter has never had the same level of fidelity or lasting pairing that is Clark/Louise. It is just not in the same league.

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@Luthorcrow said:

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@oraclefyre said:

@Luthorcrow said:

@oraclefyre said:

I think Gwen's was the possibility that was never explored, but MJ was his greatest and true love. Putting Gwen up on this pedestal does her no favours. She was an intelligent, sweet girl. But there was one thing that seriously makes me hates her for cheating on Peter.

Hell, marvel hasn't even bothered to retcon it.

Come on, that retcon doesn't count. You are talking about seriously stupid rewrite that a hack writer did in the last few years. The whole Gwen/Norman back from the died thing was probably one of the lamest and most offensive things Marvel has done in a long time.

Gwen over MJ any day. MJ was nothing but trouble until they revamped her character in the 90's made her the girl for Peter.

"Revamped"? I prefer character development. She's been with Peter through thick and thin. Hell, Pete and MJ are considered the Lois and Clark of Marvel.

Look, I understand you prefer MJ that is cool but comparing MJ and Peter to Louis and Clark is silly. Louis has the been the girl in Superman's life since the character was created. I mean she was in Issue #1 of Action Comics. MJ was never the main love in his life for the first 22 years of the comic. She was at best an on again and off again heartache until they changed her character in the 90s. Prior to that MJ was the epitome of unreliable. On top of that her character didn't appear until Amazing Spiderman #25 a full three years after Spiderman was introduced. MJ and Peter do not start a lasting relationship until The Amazing Spider-Man #259 a full 22 years after Spiderman first appears in comics.

We can debate whether Gwen or MJ is the girl but Peter has never had the same level of fidelity or lasting pairing that is Clark/Louise. It is just not in the same league.

Look, I'm saying they have the status of Lois and Clark. They're one of Marvel's "It" couples. Gwen represents a tragedy that happened long ago. And Peter's has moved on from his life. He hasn't forgotten her, he's just moved on from the tragedy. And to say a character's importance is determined by what issue they appeared in is rather silly to be honest. Gwen wasn't in the first issue.

And a relationship is between two people. MJ and Peter both caused each other pain, but both were able to get through because they loved each other. I don't recall her being the only one. If Peter never caused heartache to anyone and was perfect all the time, he would be a serious Mary Sue. And because he is so human and deals with heartache and tragedy is what makes the Spider-Man story so human, and not some shallow superhero story. And you're discrediting Peter is you believe he would love someone as you describe MJ. He's smarter than you think he is.

And Superman and Lois didn't get married until the mid-90s FYI. Time and statistics have nothing to do with emotions.

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@lrtaylor02: didnt gwen have twins???a boy and a girl???by osborn not spidey???or maybe they need a dna test?

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@mewmdude77 said:

@blazingwhale said:

doesnt anyone remember House of M? it gives everyone what they ever wanted...Peter had Gwen in this reality and when he came back you seen how he barely handled losing her again even though MJ was still there!

I always make this arguement!!! It's not that he wanted her to survive, he could have done that with her being alive but still married to MJ, but he was married to Gwen, and had children with her. Also, there was a what if Spider-Man where if Peter had saved Gwen, he would have asked her to marry him right after he saved her. That shows how much he loved her.

oh and in house of m......mj was a big shot actress and was dating iron man

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Next thing we know, Marvel will bring her back for the reboot. I wouldn't mind. They brought Barry Allen back for Final Crisis, after all.

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I think it was Gwen too. Heck, in House of M where everyone got their greatest desire, his was being married to Gwen.

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I don't think she is

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who is the man appeared in the end of the amzing spider man movie?

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I like Gwen better for Peter, always have.

Their connection just seemed so much stronger to me

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@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE:

It was retconned, but as I said, I refuse to accept that. I'm not saying it technically never happened, just that I'm not accepting it. Besides, I'm still in the 80s in my reading of Amazing Spider-man, so as of the point I'm at, it didn't :) Gwen still died simply because Norman was crazy, knew Spider-man's identity, and wanted to take away the woman he loved. Then end. As it should be.

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@lrtaylor02 said:

@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE:

It was retconned, but as I said, I refuse to accept that. I'm not saying it technically never happened, just that I'm not accepting it. Besides, I'm still in the 80s in my reading of Amazing Spider-man, so as of the point I'm at, it didn't :) Gwen still died simply because Norman was crazy, knew Spider-man's identity, and wanted to take away the woman he loved. Then end. As it should be.

This. For me it's the same because we ALL know (besides who you prefer) that Gwen would have never cheated on Peter. I didn't like it when I read Sins Past T_T

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I think it's the regret surrounding her that makes her a tragic character. MJ is his forever girl I think.

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MJ is peter's companion she is more than just a girl friend she is his best friend and is always looking out for him and there for him. Gwen was his girlfriend who he had strong feelings for yes, but life without her would be tolerable. Even though he is not dating MJ he needs her in his life for him to function.

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Gwen is like what jean grey is to scott summers......you know, what coulda, woulda should been......

(side note: emma frost is like MJ)

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Yeah, him and BC are true love.

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I think Gwen's was the possibility that was never explored, but MJ was his greatest and true love. Putting Gwen up on this pedestal does her no favours. She was an intelligent, sweet girl. But there was one thing that seriously makes me hates her for cheating on Peter.

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Hell, marvel hasn't even bothered to retcon it.

i thought we agreed to never talk about that ever again

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Honestly screw the both of them Spider-Man doesn't need them or a true love for that matter either

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As various other interpretations have shown us, MJ would have fallen for Peter if Gwen were around or not, so I disagree completly that she would not fall for Peter. I also agree with those that say that in this current comics climate where every major relationship has been broken up, that Marvel writers who did not like Gwen would have found a way to break them up eventually.

This revisionist history is getting sillier and sillier. Gwen is only well known because of her death, and her history catergorically shows why she was ill-suited for a long term relationship with Peter as she was quick to temper and hated Spider-Man. MJ, when written well, is Peter's true love because she supports Peter AND Spider-Man. She remains his wife and the mother of his children in other continuties too. I'm sorry, but having children is an act of unconditional love and Peter's greatest love is not, and should never be, a rotting ghost that reminds him of failiure, his greatest love is someone who encourages him each and every day, and that is his wife of twenty-seven years (yeah I consider the newspaper strip the real canon, sue me, in that continuity they have hardly ever argued about Peter being Spider-Man and their marraige is actually very stable)

House of M proves nothing too. That reality was'nt real, it was what Wanda perceived everyone wanted, and what better world to give Peter than one where he was less guilty about everything? He values MJ more and has said on several occasions she is the love of his life and loves her more than Gwen.

Plus...Sins Past. That says it all really.

>Teir marriage was, mostly, a disaster with a lost child and many periods of estrangemente<

Hardly. Their marraige felt "real" and had it's share of ups and downs like everyone married into a dangerous occupation, but they still loved each other greatly, thier period of estrangements made them realize how much they valued and needed each other and they continued to evolve. The period before OMD indicated that the two would remain bonded forever. Mephisto said their love was unconditional and holy, meaning under normal circumstances they would never have broken up again. The only reason they are seperate now is because they sacrificed that love to save a life. I don't like that the happy go-lucky MJ is back, she moved on from tat in the REAL continuity years ago to be a better partner to Peter. Thankfully in the continiuities I prefer (like the newspaper strip) she's still a fun energetic spirit, but also a much stronger, tolerant woman who has made her marraige work and her career has thrived, she has found a happy medium. I wish those who remains slaves to 616 continuity would break it's chains and embrace those interpreations, it might do a lot to change their minds.

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Gwen is without a doubt Peter's first love, but Mary Jane is the greatest.

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There's a great blog I found a while back called "Hellyeahmrandmrspiderman", a Peter/MJ site that regularly manages to intellectually pick apart and destroy arguments put forward by Gwen Stacy fans as to why she's so "perfect" for Peter, and argues MJ was more real and deserving of Peter where as Gwen is really nothing more than untapped potential at best and an ice queen-turned-sickingly sweet emotional tent with daddy issues at worst. It's a perfect remedy for anyone intolerant of the revisionist "saint gwen" bullshit going on in the heads of hopeless romantics who don't truly value the comics or their true history.

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@animehunter said:

Although Gwen played a big part in Peters life as his first love and would have been his main love if she survived. I do not believe she would be the best person for him, she was more like a damsel in distress rather than someone who can support Peter when he needs it.

As for Mary Jane I believe she is definitely the right person for him, she is independent, strong willed and can take care of herself very easily, as well as be a very strong support for Peter.

for example - I doubt Gwen, compared to Mary Jane, would have be strong enough to cope with the events of the spider-Island incident, especially if she got spider powers.

THANK you.......

MJ is the perfect match for Peter AND Spider-Man....a dynamic strong woman,with a strong personality and moral code.....and that comes from a massive a Felicia fan....

Gwen was a whinny girl,and it's significant that she dies NOT knowing he's Spider-man......

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very few of these posts are worth reading, this was a good one

and yes, gwen is, has been and will always bee his greatest love

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Gwen Stacy was his first love. MJ quite possibly is his soul mate...but for me...this will always be the true passionate relationship that I would've preferred him to have:

you must hate her new role now

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@shadowpro said:

very few of these posts are worth reading, this was a good one

and yes, gwen is, has been and will always bee his greatest love

It's funny how you say most of the posts are not worth reading, then post a poorly spelt post that is complete bull and not remotely worth reading.

Mary Jane is Peter's greatest love. Anyone who says otherwise has never read the comic or truly values the characters. This is indisputable Fact.

Oh, and to really rub it in, Ultimate Gwen was way more badass and better developed as a character, and you know what happened? She dumped Peter even in that universe because she knew he loved MJ more.

>you must hate her new role now<

I don't even accept anything that happens in the Mephistoverse as canon and neither should anyone else as nobody acts in-character there at all. To me, the daily strips said all that needed to be said when they revealed that crap was all a dream in 2009 and that Peter and MJ were still married, and they are MUCH more stable and much, much happier.

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His first love had sex with is first enemy -__-

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okay not a bad argument but I'm going to disagree. My reasoning is that she only knew one side of Peter and hated the other after her father's death. MJ on the other hand supported both sides. I think that realistically her first reaction to finding out Peter was Spider-Man in 616 would be freaking out and dumping him. Could she have gotten over it?

Possibly but I severely doubt it. House of M was Peter wanting all the tragedies that happened too him to be reversed. Including his entire reason for being a superhero Uncle Ben's Death. I think what makes Peter most sad about her death is that in his mind he kept his secret from her to protect her and it ended up doing the opposite. My point is I think in order for someone to be your true love they have to love you enough to understand all sides of you both good and bad.

Gwen unfortunately for her never got that chance. As far as Sin's Past goes as much as I love JMS's run that's one of the cases where he dropped the ball. Though I think it can be easily fixed to salvage Gwen's character. All in all I don't think Gwen and Peter are all that compatible.

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And as Peter thought once before to himself (I think in "Web of Romance", but correct me if I'm mistaken) that Gwen would have never been able to handle him being Spider-Man, where as MJ (an in-character, pre-mephistoverse MJ anyway) could.

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Your greatest love doesn't f*ck with your nemesis.