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Precise said:
"Vance Astro said:
"So what? It's poor character designing.You think when people design a character they go "Oh I can just through this in,who will care? It's not real anyway!" I like my comics made as close to real life as it can get."
That where we disagree, i read comics for the fantasy world they create. If i want real life i'll watch a movie or go out into the world. "
We disagree because you don't get what i'm saying.I'm not saying Comics should be 100% realistic.Almost none of the ways anyone in any comic got their powers is logical or could have happened,the way people easily construct costumes although they may be broke or don't know sh#t about sewing,people moving planets and lifting mountains,it's all fantasy....however I would like comics to keep a certain level of realism or the comic would just be stupid.There are boundaries and even in comics.When it becomes too unrealistic,what's the point of reading it?
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I meant it more for the examples that i showed, where personality would make it ridiculous for them not to wear. And 2 out of 3 of them fly, so walking/running is not a problem. And emma is distance anyway. "
M and Moonstone have no business wearing heels.
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Why not?"
There's no point.Why make them wear heels? They're costumes are fine.
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Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
I meant it more for the examples that i showed, where personality would make it ridiculous for them not to wear. And 2 out of 3 of them fly, so walking/running is not a problem. And emma is distance anyway. "
M and Moonstone have no business wearing heels.
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Why not?"
There's no point.Why make them wear heels? They're costumes are fine.
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Because their personalities are such that them not wearing heels is ridiculous.
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Vance Astro said:
"We disagree because you don't get what i'm saying.I'm not saying Comics should be 100% realistic.Almost none of the ways anyone in any comic got their powers is logical or could have happened,the way people easily construct costumes although they may be broke or don't know sh#t about sewing,people moving planets and lifting mountains,it's all fantasy....however I would like comics to keep a certain level of realism or the comic would just be stupid.There are boundaries and even in comics.When it becomes too unrealistic,what's the point of reading it?"
I do get what you're saying. But does it really make a difference if they're on high heels or wearing nikes when they shoots laserblasts from their hands?...
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pixelized said:
Because their personalities are such that them not wearing heels is ridiculous."
That doesn't make any sense.Nobody sacrifices and their mobility to be fashionable.
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"So was I :)"

btw on the vid i thought it was nicely done on your part
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Precise said:
"Vance Astro said:
"We disagree because you don't get what i'm saying.I'm not saying Comics should be 100% realistic.Almost none of the ways anyone in any comic got their powers is logical or could have happened,the way people easily construct costumes although they may be broke or don't know sh#t about sewing,people moving planets and lifting mountains,it's all fantasy....however I would like comics to keep a certain level of realism or the comic would just be stupid.There are boundaries and even in comics.When it becomes too unrealistic,what's the point of reading it?"
I do get what you're saying. But does it really make a difference if they're on high heels or wearing nikes when they shoots laserblasts from their hands?..."
That's a ridiculous comparison.
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Vance Astro said:
"That's a ridiculous comparison."
And why?
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"pixelized said:
Because their personalities are such that them not wearing heels is ridiculous."
That doesn't make any sense.Nobody sacrifices and their mobility to be fashionable.
"
Emma didn't seem to mind when she got her boobs larger than life and those shoes she wore during the first volume of new x-men. Monet, again, Choosing to keep her gucci outfit clean instead of saving a girl that was about to explode, same for Karla. SO them wearing heels is not that absurd when you think about it.
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"Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
Because their personalities are such that them not wearing heels is ridiculous."
That doesn't make any sense.Nobody sacrifices and their mobility to be fashionable.
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Emma didn't seem to mind when she got her boobs larger than life. Monet, again, Choosing to keep her gucci outfit clean instead of saving a girl that was about to explode, same for Karla. SO them wearing heels is not that absurd when you think about it."
Emma's boobs are fake and not only are they held down by her corset but because they're fake they barely bounce.Wearing heels is absurd when I think about it.Heels cause a lack of mobility.You are not as mobile in heels as you are in boots.Yes Monet can fly and so can Moonstone but at some point they are going to need to run or dodge and heels don't work in that situation.


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"Vance Astro said:
"That's a ridiculous comparison."
And why? "
A characters attire and their powers as far as fantasy and realism go aren't on the same level.It's impossible to compare the lack of realism in what someone wears to what powers they have.
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Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
Because their personalities are such that them not wearing heels is ridiculous."
That doesn't make any sense.Nobody sacrifices and their mobility to be fashionable.
"
Emma didn't seem to mind when she got her boobs larger than life. Monet, again, Choosing to keep her gucci outfit clean instead of saving a girl that was about to explode, same for Karla. SO them wearing heels is not that absurd when you think about it."
Emma's boobs are fake and not only are they held down by her corset but because they're fake they barely bounce.Wearing heels is absurd when I think about it.Heels cause a lack of mobility.You are not as mobile in heels as you are in boots.Yes Monet can fly and so can Moonstone but at some point they are going to need to run or dodge and heels don't work in that situation
i'd agree if they were new to walking in them but they've had them on since they were like 14. Monet with Generation X and Karla in her origins. Emma also wore them in the first volume in new x-men and had zero problems.
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i'd agree if they were new to walking in them but they've had them on since they were like 14. Monet with Generation X and Karla in her origins. Emma also wore them in the first volume in new x-men and had zero problems."
Doesn't mean it's ok.
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Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
i'd agree if they were new to walking in them but they've had them on since they were like 14. Monet with Generation X and Karla in her origins. Emma also wore them in the first volume in new x-men and had zero problems."
Doesn't mean it's ok.
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lol alright.
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Vance Astro said:
"A characters attire and their powers as far as fantasy and realism go aren't on the same level.It's impossible to compare the lack of realism in what someone wears to what powers they have."
It's a comic book. If a costume looks better in heels i'd say draw her that way. I couldn't care less about if she would run slower yes or no. I'm not thinking about that when i'm reading a comic book. And if you do, that's fine. That's why i said in the beginning we defer in opinion.
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Precise said:
"Vance Astro said:
"A characters attire and their powers as far as fantasy and realism go aren't on the same level.It's impossible to compare the lack of realism in what someone wears to what powers they have."
It's a comic book. If a costume looks better in heels i'd say draw her that way. I couldn't care less about if she would run slower yes or no. I'm not thinking about that when i'm reading a comic book. And if you do, that's fine. That's why i said in the beginning we defer in opinion. "
Right it's a comic book so if Wonder Woman killed half the Justice League for no reason it's ok because it's not real..it's just a comic.
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Vance Astro said:
"Right it's a comic book so if Wonder Woman killed half the Justice League for no reason it's ok because it's not real..it's just a comic."
And you said i made a ridiculous comparison...
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Precise said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Right it's a comic book so if Wonder Woman killed half the Justice League for no reason it's ok because it's not real..it's just a comic."
And you said i made a ridiculous comparison..."
No no..my comparison is perfect.You said you read comics for the fantasy world,not for them to be realistic.Wonder Woman randomly killing half the Justice League is unrealistic so why is that not ok to you? Your comparison was ridiculous because there are different reasons why shooting lasers out your hands is ridiculous as opposed to fighting crime in heels.
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Heeled boots are hot. You MAKE them work.

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Vance Astro said:
"Precise said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Right it's a comic book so if Wonder Woman killed half the Justice League for no reason it's ok because it's not real..it's just a comic."
And you said i made a ridiculous comparison..."
No no..my comparison is perfect.You said you read comics for the fantasy world,not for them to be realistic.Wonder Woman randomly killing half the Justice League is unrealistic so why is that not ok to you?
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And i was talking about costumes, i don't care if they wear heels or nikes if it suits better with their costumes and you compare it to wonderwoman killing half the justice league.. i don't see the logic in that. Anyway we're going off topic... you have your ideas on this, i have mine. Let's keep it to that.
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Boots are sexy?

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Precise said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Precise said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Right it's a comic book so if Wonder Woman killed half the Justice League for no reason it's ok because it's not real..it's just a comic."
And you said i made a ridiculous comparison..."
No no..my comparison is perfect.You said you read comics for the fantasy world,not for them to be realistic.Wonder Woman randomly killing half the Justice League is unrealistic so why is that not ok to you?
"
And i was talking about costumes, i don't care if they wear heels or nikes if it suits better with their costumes and you compare it to wonderwoman killing half the justice league.. i don't see the logic in that. Anyway we're going off topic... you have your ideas on this, i have mine. Let's keep it to that."
Funny you should use the word logic when you were basically making the case that realism doesn't matter.There is no logic in having female superheroes wear heels.If the heels or whatever shoes they want to wear fit with their costume I have no problem with it.If all the female characters or most of them just wear boots and it fits with their costume and also makes more sense to wear boots because they have to be mobile..I don't see the point and making comics more unrealistic by just now making female characters wear heels.
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Vance Astro said:
"Funny you should use the word logic when you were basically making the case that realism doesn't matter.There is no logic in having female superheroes wear heels.If the heels or whatever shoes they want to wear fit with their costume I have no problem with it.If all the female characters or most of them just wear boots and it fits with their costume and also makes more sense to wear boots because they have to be mobile..I don't see the point and making comics more unrealistic by just now making female characters wear heels."
Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm talking about their costumes and I value the fantasy world they create in comics, and if characters look better in heels, yes then draw them that way. If characters all look better in jeans then draw them that way, if it fits their personality then draw them that way. If a character wears heels and they need to run really fast i honestly don't care if they run the same as if they were wearing nikes.

Edit: Anyway i'm off, good discussion, but i don't agree with you ;)
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Precise said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Funny you should use the word logic when you were basically making the case that realism doesn't matter.There is no logic in having female superheroes wear heels.If the heels or whatever shoes they want to wear fit with their costume I have no problem with it.If all the female characters or most of them just wear boots and it fits with their costume and also makes more sense to wear boots because they have to be mobile..I don't see the point and making comics more unrealistic by just now making female characters wear heels."
Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm talking about their costumes and I value the fantasy world they create in comics, and if characters look better in heels, yes then draw them that way. If characters all look better in jeans then draw them that way, if it fits their personality then draw them that way. If a character wears heels and they need to run really fast i honestly don't care if they run the same as if they were wearing nikes. Edit: Anyway i'm off, good discussion, but i don't agree with you ;)"
I didn't put words in your mouth.I didn't quote you on anything.I didn't say you said anything;however you did say "It's comics,not real life" That to me,means that the writers can do whatever they want because they don't have to worry about what they do being realistic or making sense.
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I always liked that She-Hulk wore sneakers.

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Slinger said:
"I always liked that She-Hulk wore sneakers."
Is this a joke or are you serious?
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Vance Astro said:
"Slinger said:
"I always liked that She-Hulk wore sneakers."
Is this a joke or are you serious?
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Yes.
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Slinger said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Slinger said:
"I always liked that She-Hulk wore sneakers."
Is this a joke or are you serious?
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Yes."
Yes it's a joke or Yes you're serious?
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Boots keep the snow out. You never know when an ancient god is going to summon a freak snowstorm heralding it's second coming...

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"Boots keep the snow out. You never know when an ancient god is going to summon a freak snowstorm heralding it's second coming..."
LOL.
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Because majority of comics are geared towards men, and heeled boots elongate the leg and body creating more sexual appeal? 

It's kinda like why do female characters wear these tiny little outfits?  Not just in comics... but in video games and other medias.  Because it creates more appeal for the majority customer.
Even I have gotten a lot of criticism on my 3D female models, because I model them with smaller breasts (A-B cup), and all of my friends and instructors say the same thing.  It's nice to see more realism in my models and some over all variety, but in the games industry, the girls need some more "kadonk-a-donk".

Anyways, back to the topic of boots...  it's all about sex sells.  That's my thought on it anyhow.

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Superheroes aren't regular people, that realism is suspended. Emma frost saving the day in heels is more "awe" inspiring than her doing it in her reeboks.

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pixelized said:
"Superheroes aren't regular people, that realism is suspended. Emma frost saving the day in heels is more "awe" inspiring than her doing it in her reeboks."
Emma can wear heels all she wants it's not like she's a h2h street leveler or anything.M and Moonstone..don't see the point.We know superheroes aren't regular people,doesn't mean people won't catch and dislike poor character designs.
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Crimson Orchid said:
"Because majority of comics are geared towards men, and heeled boots elongate the leg and body creating more sexual appeal?  It's kinda like why do female characters wear these tiny little outfits?  Not just in comics... but in video games and other medias.  Because it creates more appeal for the majority customer.Even I have gotten a lot of criticism on my 3D female models, because I model them with smaller breasts (A-B cup), and all of my friends and instructors say the same thing.  It's nice to see more realism in my models and some over all variety, but in the games industry, the girls need some more "kadonk-a-donk".Anyways, back to the topic of boots...  it's all about sex sells.  That's my thought on it anyhow."
No female superhero has visual traits that I generally look for on a real female yet I still find some of them visually appealing.
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Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"Superheroes aren't regular people, that realism is suspended. Emma frost saving the day in heels is more "awe" inspiring than her doing it in her reeboks."
Emma can wear heels all she wants it's not like she's a h2h street leveler or anything.M and Moonstone..don't see the point.We know superheroes aren't regular people,doesn't mean people won't catch and dislike poor character designs.
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what's the difference between doing it in heels and doing it in latex???
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pixelized said:
"Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"Superheroes aren't regular people, that realism is suspended. Emma frost saving the day in heels is more "awe" inspiring than her doing it in her reeboks."
Emma can wear heels all she wants it's not like she's a h2h street leveler or anything.M and Moonstone..don't see the point.We know superheroes aren't regular people,doesn't mean people won't catch and dislike poor character designs.
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what's the difference between doing it in heels and doing it in latex??? "
There is no difference..they're both ridiculous.Latex is the standard though..we've already gotten used to it.
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Heels, where the personality permits, will be next.

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pixelized said:
"Heels, where the personality permits, will be next."
Let's bet.
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Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"Heels, where the personality permits, will be next."
Let's bet.
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what are you willing to lose?
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pixelized said:
"Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"Heels, where the personality permits, will be next."
Let's bet.
"
what are you willing to lose?"
Whatever you're willing to take.
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Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"Vance Astro said:
"pixelized said:
"Heels, where the personality permits, will be next."
Let's bet.
"
what are you willing to lose?"
Whatever you're willing to take.
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V please
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pixelized said:
V please"
You want my card?
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I'm too grossed out to entertain that.

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"I'm too grossed out to entertain that."
LMFAO.Why are you grossed out?
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I can run fast in heels to but it just means i got good balance XDD

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Soldiers wear boots and the old heroes were cowboys or medieval knights, so I figure that's why everyone draw heroes with boots :D

Well, I might not know much about it but I know this: Flash and Quick silver must have blisters the size of pancakes at the end of their day XD

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I know a female character that doesn't wear boots: She-Hulk!

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Da Talking Beaver said:
I know a female character that doesn't wear boots: She-Hulk!
not as of late, but she has worn boots of sorts. But it doesn't matter, she so superhuman I'm sure she can take the discomfort.
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Was that you in the suit G Man?

Super Heroines  that have been shown not wearing boots.

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vance, pix, you're some weird guys.
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Isn't it obvious?

Superheroes wear boots to keep to keep the sh!t out they are kicking butt.