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Why Diversity in Comics is Much More Important Than You Think

It's not just about us. It's about future generations as well.

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The comic book industry has changed a lot with the past generation. Whether it's the comic book movies bringing fans to the theaters in droves, the animated series captivating kids, or the toys in every store screaming to be played with, this industry is growing in a much different way. People from all walks of life are jumping onto comic books. According to our analytics, 45% of the folks that visit Comic Vine are female. Moreso, people from different cultures and races are also coming into comics at a larger rate. The stereotype of only white, nerdy males read comics is slowly fading away because comic book heroes and villains have invaded American culture, along with the rest of the world.

However, characters within comics aren't changing as quickly. There's a plethora of reasons why the change in comics isn't happening as fast as the readership is, but what people need to realize is that having more diverse characters within comic books is much more important than reflecting those who read the books.

I was in a comic book store, over the weekend. There was a kid (let's call him "Ted") about the age of 10 looking for comics and needed some suggestions. The guy behind the counter asked me to help out, and I showed "Ted" some various books. He said he liked Spider-Man, but trade-wise, all the store had was SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN, which, in my opinion, is way too heavy for someone that age, so I showed him ULTIMATE COMICS SPIDER-MAN. I told him it was a really cool book because Peter Parker was no longer Spider-Man and this new Spider-Man was really close to his age. He flipped through and saw Spider-Man, in a black suit, kicking some bad guy butt, and he told me it looked really cool. He then flipped to a page where he saw Miles Morales and started laughing. I asked him why he was laughing and he said "he's black."

Now, "Ted" is a good kid. I know his mother, who is incredibly nice, caring and completely normal, but it seems like he's been in an environment, at some point, where some closed-minded folks have put thoughts in his head. He's young and impressionable, so I told him about how cool I thought Miles Morales is and that I actually like him more than Peter Parker, which is all true. Then, another customer chimed in and said he thought Miles was a really cool character and skin color doesn't matter. The guy behind the counter did as well. All-in-all, it turned into a cool moment, and "Ted" ended up excited and bought the book.

People aren't born with prejudice. A baby's first words aren't words of hate. They're usually just words they are familiar with because their parents or someone else around them said them. Hate is taught, and I'm pretty sure almost everyone reading this will agree. There's no better way to stop hate than to educate a whole new generation of readers. How do you do this? By showing people from different walks of life. It's the whole idea of showing readers that people from different cultures and races may seem different from them, but at the end of the day, we're all pretty much the same. That seems silly, but it's a lesson that could be important for the upcoming generation.

From G. Willow Wilson & Adrian Alphona's MS. MARVEL
From G. Willow Wilson & Adrian Alphona's MS. MARVEL

Within comics, there are books doing this. At Marvel, MILES MORALES: THE ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN, YOUNG AVENGERS, and MS. MARVEL are leading the way. MILES MORALES does a fantastic job at giving readers someone to relate to, even if their skin color is different. YOUNG AVENGERS shows readers that it doesn't matter if you love the same sex or the opposite sex. MS. MARVEL does an amazing job at giving readers insight into what home-life is like in an Islamic family. DC does a fine job at providing strong, well-written female characters like Wonder Woman, Batwoman, and Batgirl, among others. They also have a long list of characters from different cultures that could easily drive their own books, such as Blue Beetle, Cyborg, and Steel.

The point of all of this isn't to make diverse characters for the sake of diverse characters. It's about never having a kid laugh or judge a character in a book because that character isn't the default, which is a white, heterosexual male. Sure, it's true that the majority of readers are white males, but as an industry, making baby steps away from that could be a start.

With any large problem, there is no easy answer though. It's not as simple as editorial shouting "we need more diverse characters" and everything magically falling into place. However, it feels like both Marvel and DC are in a transitional phase to move closer to much more diverse worlds. This is a good start, but another part of this problem is will fans accept this?

New 52 Wally West
New 52 Wally West

In recent months, there's been quite a lot of controversy over characters changing over at DC. Since it's the New 52 and this is a whole new world, creators and editors can take liberties with some characters because they've never been introduced before. The biggest one, in recent, was changing Wally West from white to black. Wally West fans are outraged because it wasn't the character they knew and loved pre-New 52. In addition, there were some personality changes as well, but it's still really early to say the character was ruined or anything over-dramatic like that. This is a subject we've talked to death on the Comic Vine podcast in recent weeks, and most discussions end with me not understanding why fans are upset. Without getting heavily into this whole debate, over changing characters versus creating new ones, it's important to remember that as long as the characters are written well and are compelling on the page, then we should all just enjoy what's presented, and if we don't, then don't buy it.

Creating a more diverse world for comic book characters to live in is not just important because the growing market contains more than just white, heterosexual males reading and these new fans may want characters that reflect them. It's important to educate a whole new generation of readers to show them that it doesn't matter where you're from, what you look like, or who you love, every different type of person on this planet is still a person. In essence, we're all the same. We're all comic book readers and comic books are and should be for everyone.

Mat "Inferiorego" Elfring writes and podcasts on Comic Vine, tweets about comics and wrestling, and sings "What's Up" by 4 Non-Blondes way too much for a man in his 30s.

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Yeah, diversity is good. What do you want to do about it? They always need to give us more diverse characters, but who is "they?" Well, "they" are writers and when you talk about them as a collective whole it sounds fine to say that some portion of them should be writing about black people or asian people or gay people or quadriplegic people. But writers are not an automated assembly line where you can change the agenda and say that we're going to start manufacturing some SUVs as well as sedans. They're creative individuals with particular stories they want to tell. Are we going to demand that Marvel or DC have a diversity-comptroller who's going to kick down Scott Snyder or Warren Ellis's door and say "You! Your protagonist is now [insert minority of choice]! Deal with it or you're fired!"

Diversity is well and good but it has to stem from the creative side to be worth a damn. If it's shoe-horned or affirmative-action box-checked it'll be just another shallow waste of time and resources that'll make it six issues and get cancelled because no one cared. There is no "they." There is only the writer and the reader.

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@smart_dork_dude: Well to be fair, having a different skin color can mean that certain colors don't work with you anymore. I think the new outfit looks great, but I can also understand missing the old one.

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Well put. :) This little story seems appropriate to add:

"This Wednesday, Marvel comics released All New Marvel Now #1 which featured the first super hero appearance of Kamala Khan, the new Ms Marvel who will be getting her own series next month. She is the first female Muslim character to receive her own series from either of the big companies, and because of this some people are saying this is all a stunt, that this is just something Marvel is doing to get attention. And you can say that all you want, but today two Muslim women who had never come into my store before came in and asked for the new book with Ms Marvel in it. We gave it to them and they started flipping through it and they both had the biggest smiles you could imagine on their faces. In fact I would describe both of them as being “giddy” even. So you can say its a stunt all you want, but end of the day thanks to the new Ms Marvel, those two ladies now have a super hero that they’re excited about, and that’s pretty awesome."

Now, Ms. Marvel is the best selling female solo title at Marvel, beating Black Widow, Elektra, She-Hulk and Captain Marvel. Considering she doesn't have an established fanbase, being a new character, it makes me kind of wonder if a whole load of people have been introduced to comic books because of her.

If companies can introduce characters that people can relate to, and make them feel welcome as readers, I think that's a great thing to do. :)

#KamalaKorps

This really made me smile, thanks for sharing this :)

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This is a great article and I agree 100% besides the homosexuality part, but wally west does suck now.

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@jayc1324 said:

This is a great article and I agree 100% besides the homosexuality part, but wally west does suck now.

What homosexuality part?

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@smashbrawler: the part where he mentioned homosexuality. I don't consider that part of diversity.

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@jayc1324 said:

@smashbrawler: the part where he mentioned homosexuality. I don't consider that part of diversity.

Are you serious? How is that not diversity?

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@smashbrawler: Basically you mean you like diversity, just not the diversity you don't like. :/ That's backwards thinking!

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The argument I despise most is "it's just diversity for diversity sake". It's a stupid statement.

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@jayc1324 said:

@smashbrawler: Its an entirely different thing than race.

That doesn't matter at all. There's a reason we're using the term diversity, not racial diversity. As long as we're talking about different races, ethnicities, sexual orientations or religious beliefs, among many other factors, it's still a matter of diversity.

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@jayc1324: Why? Why would it not be important? What does it hurt to have less straight characters? There's room in comic books to have diverse characters of all kinds.

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@jayc1324: Considering the fact that several people, including people who just so happen to be part of the LGBT community, use comic books as escapism (hence the "relatable" argument), I disagree.

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"YOUNG AVENGERS shows readers that it doesn't matter if you love the same sex or the opposite sex."

although i understand the point of the article and agree with most of it, and on the internet i will most likely get blasted for saying something like this, homosexuality is not something that is seen as uninamiously acceptable by any means. it's not necessarily seen as a "good thing" to show that homosexuality is okay for the general public.

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I think what Mat was trying to convey in the article was the fact that we are lacking in the diversity department in comics. I can 100% jump on the train that that needs to change and I think a majority of us can agree on that. However, the point in which the road forks in where you get into the territory on exactly HOW you go about doing that. Do you create a new character, like Kamala? Or do you re-invent an old character, like Wally? With the former, you run the risk that the character won't catch on and will be a comic book bomb (i.e. Simon Baz). With the latter, you also run the risk of alienating existing fans of an established character (i.e. Any character changes in the New 52). It's a treacherous line to walk, as the pendulum could swing either way. Another tricky part of this would be the fact that not everyone identifies with race, sexual orentation or religion. I sometimes identify with those of the same religion, but I know that not everyone else does. Same way for those who identify with ethnicity, some do and some don't. You can't force someone to care about something they couldn't give a gosh darn about ("it would have been something different for Comic Vine After Dark ;D").

Okay, now it's time for my personal opinion on the subject… so batten down the hatches. I'm personally on the create a new character side, however, I can see where there are those who wouldn't mind a change like Wally. As long as the ethnicity doesn't define that character, I'm okay with that. But I jumped ship once they changed one of my favorite characters; Helena Bertinelli. She was the daughter of full-blood Italian Mobsters (long lost granddaughter of Vito Corleone, perhaps?), and I found that truly fascinating that we got an inside look at the mafia from a heroes perspective. But what's this!? In the new 52, she's no longer Italian, nor is she formally in the mafia, nay, she is a spy and she's African-American. Talk about an arrow to my heart. I tried not to get upset, because it's just a comic book, but someone I had become attached to, suddenly took a 180 degree angle and was redefined. That hurt. To me, her nationality defined her. Just like the nationality of Thor or Black Panther shouldn't change, this was on those grounds for me. And I swear, if they say she was adopted by the mafia, it will signal to me, it was change for change sake. And I don't want that. I want an organic change, and that's why creating someone like Miles Morales, was the best thing to happen to Marvel's Ultimate Universe. You look back on that and you can't deny the "amazing"-ness of his character and what he did to the Ultimate Spider-Man Universe. In conclusion, this is my opinion, I know others don't share it but that's okay. But with all this change that has been happening at the Big Two, you have to ask the question. Does race matter? Does sex matter? What defines a person? These are questions that won't warrant a single answer. Because, no matter how hard we try, we are not the same. Everyone is different, we will all have our, sometimes overreacting, opinions. But hey, that's what makes us human. So let's try to lay this puppy to rest and call it a day. Because this could go on aaaaaalllllllllllll day, trust me… me and my friend tried -_- it was a fruitless and pointless endeavor, still slightly fun, not going to lie, civil conflict can be good… but hey, that's another short essay for another day.

P.S. I agree with @inferiorego, we need more Martians in comics!! I mean, what we have like two?! Talk about a minority ;)

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It's to long I'll read it later, but all I have to say is MORE COOL ASIAN AMERICAN SUPEHEROS!!!

THIS TIMES A MILLION!!!

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@zombietag: And that's more than a little homophobic...

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And Wally West Pre-New 52 was married to a Korean woman and had Ginger/Korean children but according to Mat Pre-New 52 wasn't a diverse character and according to Mat apparently Gingers aren't a race. Mat in your attempt to sound racially tolerant you have racially offended me!

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@captain13: The Milestone Universe was merged with the DC Universe when Final Crisis happened. DC could use the Milestone characters if they wanted to. The thing is they only wanted to develop Static and not the other characters like Icon, Hardware, Xombi, Blood Syndicate, and Shadow Cabinet. If DC utilized the Milestone stuff they could have a lot more diversity without having to resort to race-swapping. I also agree that they should promote more of their own established characters like John Stewart.

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@manneffest: Not sure I understand where you're coming from with Helena Bertinelli... yet. Who says she's not Italian? Lots of Sicilians are dark-skinned. Or her mother could be African-American and her father Italian-American. If her story is revealed and she's no longer the daughter of a Mafia don (who, by the way, already appeared in Justice League), then fair enough. But it's not right to presume to know Tim Seeley's story before he even gets to tell it.

As for all those fans who think Wally West has changed personalities, I should point you toward his appearances in the late 1970s/early 1980s. He was an angry kid. Really. You can hardly compare what his personality was like as a married adult father of two to what he is like as a 12 year old.

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I think what Mat was trying to convey in the article was the fact that we are lacking in the diversity department in comics. I can 100% jump on the train that that needs to change and I think a majority of us can agree on that. However, the point in which the road forks in where you get into the territory on exactly HOW you go about doing that. Do you create a new character, like Kamala? Or do you re-invent an old character, like Wally? With the former, you run the risk that the character won't catch on and will be a comic book bomb (i.e. Simon Baz). With the latter, you also run the risk of alienating existing fans of an established character (i.e. Any character changes in the New 52). It's a treacherous line to walk, as the pendulum could swing either way. Another tricky part of this would be the fact that not everyone identifies with race, sexual orentation or religion. I sometimes identify with those of the same religion, but I know that not everyone else does. Same way for those who identify with ethnicity, some do and some don't. You can't force someone to care about something they couldn't give a gosh darn about ("it would have been something different for Comic Vine After Dark ;D").

Okay, now it's time for my personal opinion on the subject… so batten down the hatches. I'm personally on the create a new character side, however, I can see where there are those who wouldn't mind a change like Wally. As long as the ethnicity doesn't define that character, I'm okay with that. But I jumped ship once they changed one of my favorite characters; Helena Bertinelli. She was the daughter of full-blood Italian Mobsters (long lost granddaughter of Vito Corleone, perhaps?), and I found that truly fascinating that we got an inside look at the mafia from a heroes perspective. But what's this!? In the new 52, she's no longer Italian, nor is she formally in the mafia, nay, she is a spy and she's African-American. Talk about an arrow to my heart. I tried not to get upset, because it's just a comic book, but someone I had become attached to, suddenly took a 180 degree angle and was redefined. That hurt. To me, her nationality defined her. Just like the nationality of Thor or Black Panther shouldn't change, this was on those grounds for me. And I swear, if they say she was adopted by the mafia, it will signal to me, it was change for change sake. And I don't want that. I want an organic change, and that's why creating someone like Miles Morales, was the best thing to happen to Marvel's Ultimate Universe. You look back on that and you can't deny the "amazing"-ness of his character and what he did to the Ultimate Spider-Man Universe. In conclusion, this is my opinion, I know others don't share it but that's okay. But with all this change that has been happening at the Big Two, you have to ask the question. Does race matter? Does sex matter? What defines a person? These are questions that won't warrant a single answer. Because, no matter how hard we try, we are not the same. Everyone is different, we will all have our, sometimes overreacting, opinions. But hey, that's what makes us human. So let's try to lay this puppy to rest and call it a day. Because this could go on aaaaaalllllllllllll day, trust me… me and my friend tried -_- it was a fruitless and pointless endeavor, still slightly fun, not going to lie, civil conflict can be good… but hey, that's another short essay for another day.

P.S. I agree with @inferiorego, we need more Martians in comics!! I mean, what we have like two?! Talk about a minority ;)

Preach!

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If children are that dependent on seeing someone else that looks like them to validate their own existence, their parents need to have their a$$3$ wooped. Then again, when you have grown people insecure enough to write on their tumblr about how they feel proud to see another fattie as a movie heroine that's even bigger then them, we have a problem.

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There's a difference between CREATING a diverse character, and CHANGING a character to make them diverse. I think that is the main reason people are annoyed with Wally West's change. Include in his change in attitude, it seems distant from the character of Wally West aside from name, which makes one wonder why they just didn't create a diverse Flash instead of changing one to be?

I got into comics through my uncle and reading Green Lantern. Loved the stories and the diversity of the aliens. My favorite hero was Spider-man, but he wasn't relatable to me, not really. Then Spider-man 2099 came out and I was excited! Being Hispanic myself, I saw a VERSION of a character I enjoyed that was made relateable. Throw in the fact that he also had the same first name as me, and I was sold.

Had they done this to Peter Parker, I don't think I would have enjoyed it.

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Nice article! Like a majority of people here, I'm all for diversity, but I do find it kind of cheap when they change the status-quo of already existing characters. To an extent, I can forgive them doing it in movies since it's an adaptation and the characters are often new to the audience anyway (like they did with nick fury) but with preexisting characters in comic books that have decades of history, it kind of rubs me the wrong way.

I'm really happy to see Marvel taking steps to introduce more diversity in their comics. As a gay man, I must admit that I never felt as comfortable reading a comic book then I did reading the latest Young Avengers series. There was such a wide spectrum of sexual orientations that I could easily relate to without it being all preachy.

Even if some people don't want it to change, they have to face the fact that the industry is changing anyway. I for one am looking very much to the future of comic books.

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@fotocub: Oh… I've never met a dark-skinned Italian, only those of lighter complexion. Well, now I feel like a complete idiot o_o*… oops lol And you're right, it is unfair for me to rush to conclusions. However, they aren't off to a promising start.

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@kal_smahboi:

Ah, so race helps define the way people think. Good to know.

@matthewparker:

You believe in diversity for diversity's sake? So if you married a white woman, she died, and you wanted to remarry, would you intentionally look for a minority race to marry next time or would you simply look for the person who best fits you regardless of race? One option is judging people on the color of their skin and the other is judging them on the content of their character. I vote for the latter in marriage, comics and everything else.

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@bsaa said:

If children are that dependent on seeing someone else that looks like them to validate their own existence, their parents need to have their a$$3$ wooped. Then again, when you have grown people insecure enough to write on their tumblr about how they feel proud to see another fattie as a movie heroine that's even bigger then them, we have a problem.

Okay, I get the first sentence, whatever, but why did you include the bit about Tumblr? That's not really even pertinent.

Also learn to spell.

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Great to see that Comic vine is full of open minded people. And the stories in this discussion are great

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I'm all for diversity in comics. (At least racial diversity, I do find sex changes disgusting and don't want to read about that in a medium I come to for enjoyment.)

However I am against the new Wally West. The issue with him isn't really his race though. It's that the previous version of the character was deleted. If they had a new Wally West who looked exactly the same as he did pre-Flashpoint, but he was still a twelve-year-old kid, and therefore essentially a new character, I would still be just as outraged. I have no issues with the new Wally as a character, I'm sure he'll be a great character. It's just that they are saying that this is Wally West now. It's the same thing they did with Superboy and the rest of the Young Justice / Teen Titans Volume 3 characters. These characters looked pretty much the same as they did pre-Flashpoint, but did not have any of that history. That is what offends me. And honestly I think much of the hate Lobdell gets her on ComicVine is because he was forced to write new origins for these characters. If they wanted to create a black character they could have had Wally lend some of his speed (as he has been shown to do) to his black friend who happened to have a metagene that enabled him to duplicate Wally's speed power or something. And to those of you who are saying that creating new characters isn't successful must realize that what they did to Wally isn't successful either. He isn't going to pull in new readers to Barry's book. Many fans dropped the book because they couldn't cope with the change. And those who are staying are staying for Barry.

I did support Simon Baz and the new Vibe as much as possible and if they came back would continue to do so. They were both great characters with great stories. But it's not that people didn't like Katana, it's that people don't like Nocenti, no matter what she attempts to write.

Anyway, to address the point made in the article about not buying comics if we don't enjoy them - I really hate the entire concept of the New 52. It effed up so much of my precious continuity. And so any time I'm reminded the reboot happened, I become enraged. I try to enjoy my comics and for the most part do, but that always gets me. The thing is, I would have jumped ship from DC Comics in September of 2011 if I could have, but the fact is I'm addicted to them so no matter what they do to them, I'm stuck.

One last point I'd like to disagree with and I know all the people who want to be politically correct are gonna have a field day with this. But I disagree that all people are "people." There are several groups of people that I don't believe qualify as people but I'm going to use on as an example. Let me first say, I believe there is a difference between being a human and being a person. One can be one and not the other. One can be both or neither. Anyway, what I believe makes someone a person, whether human or not, is for lack of a better term, having a soul. I don't believe that people with conditions such as down syndrome, cerebral palsy, or severe low-functioning autism have souls. Don't get me wrong, I'm on the spectrum myself, which means I have been exposed to these people a lot more than many and that is much of what has formed my opinion. Believe what you will, but I cannot imagaine these people having souls. They seem more to me like inanimate objects. Anyway, that is all I have to say.

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I haven't been reading Flash, but I just have to ask. Is new Wally angsty? Please tell me he's angsty like 95% of DC characters right now. Oooo I hope he's filled with angst!

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@squares: Because it was funny?

And nothing that I wrote was misspelled, just censored. Learn to read.

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Great article.

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I'm all for creating new characters instead of changing old ones. It seems that the DC only pallette swaps black for white. What about other ethnicities? As a black man, I'm not in favor of Wally and Helena's (weird how no one is mentioning her) change. I'm not against it either. Just apathetic. It's great that Ms. Marvel is getting a good following. DC and Marvel are in the same boat when it comes to diversity. They have higher overhead so lower threshold to try out new characters in solo books. DC just throws out books like Vibe, and Katana with no lead time for people to get accustomed to these C-listers. I think that Baz and Bunker could do well if pushed correctly. Seems that Johns has ownership over Baz. I like that Bunker will be present in the Teen Titans relaunch.

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Couldn't agree more Mat, great article.

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I'll say this. Diversity by destroying an existing character is bull.

Wally is not the Wally West of old. Why not create a new Flash if that is what DC wants to do? You have the new 52 as the perfect point to build from the ground floor. Why bother alienating fans of Wally when you could name this new speedster Craig, or John, Or Mike? I can see why people are pissed.

As for Miles, it is great that Marvel is pushing a non white hero, but to kill Peter Parker (a character I had followed for 160 plus issues) to make room for Miles to squeeze into the role is Bull $%. I don't feel like dropping 160 issues of development just to play do over.

What Marvel, DC and anybody else needs to do is make a diverse set of characters, but not at the expense of existing characters or the fan base of those characters.

Comics has to compete with video games, movies, sports and tons of other hobbies fans pour money into. Marvel, DC and the rest shouldn't bitch if they don't have the numbers of readers they want if they decide to alienate their readers into spending money on the other guys comics, or simply to give up the hobby. Sure, grabbing new readers should be important, but brand loyalty shouldn't be tossed under the bus.

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if you hate Wally West for sole reason of his race...by definition that's racist......just saying

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@micah: Yeah, that will be interesting. I may not like Tom Taylor's Earth 2, but his Injustice series is good. Maybe now that Sinestro has a book (an awesome book) they could actually find a way to give Baz a Yellow ring, and find a loophole for having him still work with the Green Lanterns, like Razor did in Green Lantern TAS.

Its weird because the Yellow Lanterns and the Red Lanterns have one book each. And the quality of their books are greater than the Green Lanterns who have several books. I never thought I'd see the day were the other Corps would have better books than the establishment LOL.

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@barkley said:

if you hate Wally West for sole reason of his race...by definition that's racist......just saying

What if we have New 52 Wally because he's Wally West in name only?

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@kal_smahboi:

You believe in diversity for diversity's sake? So if you married a white woman, she died, and you wanted to remarry, would you intentionally look for a minority race to marry next time or would you simply look for the person who best fits you regardless of race? One option is judging people on the color of their skin and the other is judging them on the content of their character. I vote for the latter in marriage, comics and everything else.

That's a pretty bad analogy. And you're acting as if looks are never a part of what someone looks for in a partner.

Diversity is a good thing, in and of itself, and so I believe in diversity for diversity's sake. Like I believe in goodness for goodness' sake. Goodness is good. So we strive for it. Get it?

And I agree completely with the last thing you said. People should withhold judgement on the nu Wally because most of what we've seen is that he's half-black, now. We have very little idea on the character that's being written.

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@risingbean: DC has tried to make new diverse characters, but every time they do, fans don't latch on. Changing race may be how they need to do diversity. Not like it was their choice though, it happened because Wally is going to be black in the new Flash TV series and the higher ups at WB made them do it.

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@idontlikebirds: It happened because Wally is going to be black in the new Flash TV series and the higher ups at WB made them do it.

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What was wrong with just creating a new flash? And that costume looks awful!

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MetH doesn't care for Nu52 Wally but tHat does not mean He Hates Him eitHer. MetH literally doesn't care. But, wHat does botHer me is tHat tHey made Nu52 Wally Black for tHe sake of diversity. Really? Instead of giving Cyborg a solo series He so deserves, instead of putting Static in tHe Teen Titans, instead of making Batman of a different etHnicity, tHey decide to make tHe cHaracter tHey claimed was not coming back different?

It sounds like a gimmick or a cruel joke. WHat Happened to Simon Baz? I feel like Nu52 Wally will end up being tHe next Simon Baz.

I Honestly tHink DC sucks at making diverse cHaracters because tHey end up becoming obscure cHaracters.

Look at Marvel. THey got Ultimate Spider, Nova (Sam), Young Avengers, Storm, Pryde, all tHe X-Men really, Luke Cage, and otHer diverse cHatacters tHat Haven't disappeared into obscurity.

-ABstract4$$#073-

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@micah: Yeah, Sinestro is my favorite Lantern book that's out right now.

@superior_prime_maybe: DC made Wally black because of the new Flash television series coming out.

@m3th: Wally can't fade into obscurity because he's a fan favorite character, the same with Huntress. Considering DC seems bad at making new diverse characters, changing them may be how they do diversity.

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Nice article.

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You know what I miss? Milestone Comics. Chock full of superbly written diversity characters. Sooooooo good.

Milestone was really amazing. It's a shame DC hasn't figured out a way to bring it back successfully. Maybe someday.

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@inferiorego: Thanks for this, Mat. Very well said.

It's sad that it even needs to be said at this point, but, ostensibly, it does.

I'm glad there are people out there who understand the importance of diversity in comicbooks - you wouldn't believe it sometimes by the comments on here. And I believe you're right that it's important that we educate people about that importance whenever possible. Stopping ignorance in its tracks - often by having others chime in and showing the person how silly it is to have a prejudicial point of view - goes a long way and, ultimately, is how I think this problem is solved.

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@bsaa: You censored fatty by spelling it fattie?