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Why Black Widow Should Get Her Own Marvel Movie

'The Avengers' proved that Natasha is more than just a pretty face; here's why we think she deserves some more of the spotlight.

By now, most of you who are reading this have already had the pleasure of watching The Avengers; but if you haven't yet don't worry, you can still read this article without any major spoilers. Like many of you who live, breathe and love comics, I too felt that The Avengers was one of the best comic book, super hero movies I have ever watched. Better than all Marvel movies that came before it, and all FOX comic book movie adaptations. It even gave 'The Dark Knight' a run for it's money, in my opinion. But this isn't an article about how much I loved 'The Avengers,' it's about how happy I felt when I left the theater thinking that after just having watched that film, there's no reason why Marvel Studios couldn't make a Black Widow movie.

If you were to have asked me before, I would have told you that there was no way that Marvel Studios could pull off a Black Widow movie -- she just didn't hold enough clout. The character, who has been around since her first appearance in TALES OF SUSPENSE #52 could hardly ever maintain her own ongoing series. At best, they would get cancelled -- not because they weren't good (because they were often fantastic) but because she simply didn't garner support of enough readers. Her appearance in Iron Man 2 when she first met Tony Stark was sub-par. She was completely uninteresting and had no depth.

Before watching the movie I was convinced that Black Widow was the only really odd part of all of The Avengers movie posters and she didn't make sense to me in the trailers because Scarlet Johansson had delivered a less than stellar first performance in Iron Man 2. I wasn't expecting a whole heck of a lot out of her performance in 'The Avengers, and that may very well be the reason why I was so blown away by her character's presence on screen. When I left the theater after having seen The Avengers for the second time the only thing on my mind was, "what the hell happened in Budapest?" I was smitten.

If you get that reference, then you probably know where I am going with this. Even though Black Widow didn't have a tremendous amount of on-screen time, the moments where she made an appearance were compelling -- so much so that I left the theater with a whole new appreciation for her character. Hawkeye and Black Widow had obvious chemistry in the film, but it wasn't sexual; and the fact that Whedon strayed away from any romantic involvement between the two characters (something that frequently appeared in the comics) is what made it so interesting to see the pair working together (and at times against one another) on screen.

What Whedon didn't touch on (which I was completely comfortable with) was the fact that Natasha and Clint Barton were lovers at one time in the comics. At that time, Barton had been working with the Avengers when Natasha was still with the KGB when he fell in love with her and whisked her away. At least that's the romanticized version. In her early appearances, Natasha left the KJB for Barton and the Avengers, although their relationship fizzled. And while there is clearly chemistry between the two characters in Whedon's film, the fact that there is no on-screen romance is a plus. The possible romance would have been distracting, first of all, and it would have ultimately taken away from Natasha's ability to be seen as an equal by her peers (the other Avengers teammates), which I will get into later.

There are some great moments between them, however, that were virtually pulled straight from the comics. In the film, Natasha emphasizes the fact that she owed Clint Barton "a debt" and that is the reason why she was so dedicated to ensuring his safety. That debt is her life, and in turn she feels obligated to save his too, because he had been sent to kill her but instead chose to save her. He (Clint) understood her struggles and all she had endured, and there were diffinitive seeds that were purposely planted by Whedon in the film that will probably be expounded upon later -- hopefully in her own movie.

Black Widow is brainwashed

In the scene where she is coaxing Hawkeye -- who is restrained after being brainwashed by Loki -- she repeats (for a second time) that she "had been compromised." This time, in a more somber tone. She states again that she "has red on her ledger." Those who have read any Black Widow comics or know anything about her history know that she was used by the Russian KGB.

At one time, Black Widow thought herself to be a ballerina, but she later discovered that she had been brainwashed. The memories she thought she had had were not her own, and they were put there by the Russian KGB. She was never a ballerina. Her husband hadn't died as she had originally believed. She was used as a pawn when she was utilized as part of the "Red Room" experiment. During that time, she did a lot of terrible things to people; and the fact that Whedon alludes to this in his film makes me think he is preparing fans for a movie of her own; which she rightly deserves.

All too often when there is a prominent female character in a cast of mostly men, the woman is often the object of affection -- she's used as the romantic interest. We saw Natasha play that role in Iron Man 2 when she was first introduced to audiences. She was there mainly for eye candy, referenced specifically by Iron Man's character.

There was none of that here. In Whedon's film Black Widow was able to play with the boys, and the fact that they never once questioned her capabilities and consistently treated her as an equal was probably the most compelling thing about her portrayal. It's so much so that you forget that Scarlett Johansson is sexy. It's never in your face. The blatant joke in the beginning of the film by Georgi Luchkov during the interrogation where he claims that Natasha is "nothing more than a pretty face" is an obvious affront to an age old cliche; that she wouldn't have such prowess without her striking good looks. This is something that both Whedon and Scarlett Johannson successfully disprove.

Black Widow naturally has an interesting (albeit, complicated) history in Marvel Comics. Born in 1928 in a small town in Russia, she is said to be the last of the Romanov's. She became a spy for the KGB, was brainwashed, and at one time she even took a dose of super soldier serum -- which explains why she still looks good after all these years. She is smart, savvy and of course, beautiful; making her deadly. In her performance in The Avengers, Scarlett Johansson and Joss Whedon proved that Black Widow can be conveyed as an interesting and compelling character.

After seeing The Avengers there is no doubt in my mind that Marvel Studios can't make a great superhero/spy movie featuring both Black Widow and Hawkeye. She has a complicated history, (and so does he) and certainly both characters have their share of demons; but that's what makes them human and easy to relate to. Hopefully we'll get to see what happened in Budapest in Black Widow's very own feature film, or at the very least find out where all that "red on her ledger" came from.

What do you think? Do you want to see a Black Widow/Hawkeye spin-off movie? Do you think that kind of a film would be successful?

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Posted by darkrider

of course she should have her own movie and it could be a spy action movie with connection to bucky

Posted by Bestostero

Black Widow, yes. Scarlet Johansson, no.

Posted by The Lobster

Alone, Black Widow and Hawkeye aren't strong enough characters to carry their own film. 
 
Together, it could definitely work. I'd love to see a S.H.E.I.L.D. movie done in the style of Mission Impossible with Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Nick Fury in the leading roles. The big question would be....who would be the main bad guy they're sent after? Hydra? Taskmaster? Both?

Posted by The Stegman

If she gets a movie before Wonder Woman, I'mma choke someone.

Posted by Judge_Dredd

Personally I'd love to see a Black Widow movie, that or a movie focusing on her with Hawkeye and Nick Fury etc would als be great. My fav part of the Avengers.

And dare I say, super sexy. We need more sexy today.

Posted by Mr. Kamikaze

I think it'd be neat if she showed up in Captain America 2, connecting her with Bucky and the Russians who revived him and what not. That'd be neat.

But yeah, I think she should get a movie centered around her, but not necessarily her own movie. A little spy action thriller with Hawkeye would be neat, either spinning off from Avengers or set before Iron Man 2, even.

Or even a more SHIELD focused movie, with a mroe in depth look at Widow, Hawkeye, Maria Hill, Fury, and possibly Coulson, depending on the time frame of the movie.

I just have trouble picturing Black Widow leading her own movie, but if someone can convince me otherwise, I am totally open to it.

Posted by windcaster

I think they should do a S.H.E.I.L.D movie with her, Hawkeye, and Fury. I'm not sure about a solo movie, but I might change my mind in the future. 

Posted by Mercy_

Kevin Feige has done everything BUT confirm it. After the success of Avengers, I don't see why on Earth they wouldn't.

@Mr. Kamikaze said:

Or even a more SHIELD focused movie, with a mroe in depth look at Widow, Hawkeye, Maria Hill, Fury, and possibly Coulson, depending on the time frame of the movie.

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE this.

I also love having her show up in the second Cap movie. Bucky x Natasha foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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Posted by TheMess1428

She should have her own movie and end up on the side of HYDRA at the end but secretly still working for Nick Fury like in the cartoon.

Posted by Mister_Sensational

@The Stegman said:

If she gets a movie before Wonder Woman, I'mma choke someone.

Well that person should be someone from DC and/or Warner Bros. because you surely can't blame Marvel for introducing Black Widow in the films and making her such a compelling character, meanwhile DC still refuses to even entertain the idea of a Wonder Woman movie despite her long standing status as one of the best (if not the greatest) female superhero and us fans constantly asking for one.

Posted by hyperman

@The Stegman: Totally Agree!!!!

Posted by Mercy_

@TheMess1428: I seriously dislike the villainous depictions of Natasha.

@The Stegman said:

If she gets a movie before Wonder Woman, I'mma choke someone.

Well, that sucks for you :(

Hollywood doesn't really seem invested in/capable of adapting WW for the masses, whether TV (the failed pilot) or big screen. They actually had Joss on board a few years(?) ago to write a script for her.

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Posted by moywar700

black widow can get her own movie?

but she can't get an on-going that lasts for along time?

anybody see something wrong with that picture?

Posted by GamerGeek360

I think the only way this works is having both Black Widow and Hawkeye in the movie. I love both characters and, after seeing it hinted at in Avengers, would love to delve deeper into their relationship.

Posted by JonesDeini

I'm all for this more chances to watch ScarJo do her thing. Also Natalia is my favorite female character.

Posted by Illuminatus

Black Widow will never get a solo film. Mark my words.

Posted by ThanoStomp

@Bestostero said:

Black Widow, yes. Scarlet Johansson, no.

Agreed.

Posted by GuruOfFunk

I agree with some of the other comments where she shouldnt get her own movie but should instead be in a SHEILD movie. I would love a Nick Fury/Hawkeye/Black Widow spy movie. I would be different from the other marvel movies, I'd be super into that.

Posted by Mercy_

@Illuminatus said:

Black Widow will never get a solo film. Mark my words.

I'm going to troll you relentlessly if she does.

@moywar700 said:

black widow can get her own movie?

but she can't get an on-going that lasts for along time?

anybody see something wrong with that picture?

Movie goers =/= comic book readers.

How many people saw The Avengers?

How many of them were comic book fans? Probably not even a quarter.

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Posted by TheHeat

A SHIELD movie involving Black Widow, Hawkeye, Fury, and the soon to be Vision, Coulson would be sweet.

Edited by revbucky

@The Lobster said:

Alone, Black Widow and Hawkeye aren't strong enough characters to carry their own film. Together, it could definitely work. I'd love to see a S.H.E.I.L.D. movie done in the style of Mission Impossible with Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Nick Fury in the leading roles. The big question would be....who would be the main bad guy they're sent after? Hydra? Taskmaster? Both?

I absolutely agree. I felt that they were a little weak in the Avengers movie. But highlighted together as a SHIELD movie, throw in HYDRA, and you've got action and intrigue.

Posted by Video_Martian

TWO WORDS: SHIELD. MOVIE.

Posted by EddieTheHead666

Meh.

Posted by Mercy_

@TheHeat: I know something happens with Coulson in the Avengers, I don't know what it is. So can you please keep spoilers out of the thread?

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Posted by The_Tree

@The Lobster said:

Alone, Black Widow and Hawkeye aren't strong enough characters to carry their own film. Together, it could definitely work. I'd love to see a S.H.E.I.L.D. movie done in the style of Mission Impossible with Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Nick Fury in the leading roles. The big question would be....who would be the main bad guy they're sent after? Hydra? Taskmaster? Both?

I'd love this! Add in Maria Hill, and Baron von Strucker leading Hydra, and I'd be entirely sold.

Posted by AlKusanagi

A black Widow movie would have to be an origin/prequel, and I think at this point Marvel should just go forward at full speed rather than back.

Posted by Mercy_

@AlKusanagi said:

A black Widow movie would have to be an origin/prequel, and I think at this point Marvel should just go forward at full speed rather than back.

Scarlett Johansson has spoken out, saying she'd love to do an origin story taking place in Russia.

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"I love her origin story. I think it's just such a riveting one...," she said during a recent interview to promote "Avengers". She added, "It's just steeped in history and the richness to shoot in Russia, perhaps... I hope that the fans' voice is loud enough and they want to see a Widow origin story, I know Marvel would be happy to entertain that. We've spoken a lot about it."
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Posted by Mjdemon

she should get her own movie not because i wanna see more of her even though she's been awesome but because i would want to see more Hawkeye. And hopefully in the sequel they do what they did with her in the Ultimate universe. she is a spy after all

Posted by jmood88
@The Stegman
If she gets a movie before Wonder Woman, I'mma choke someone.
Blame the people at DC who made such a stupid and sexist character.
Posted by jmood88
@AlKusanagi

A black Widow movie would have to be an origin/prequel, and I think at this point Marvel should just go forward at full speed rather than back.

Why would it have to be a prequel?
Posted by The Stegman
@jmood88: ' 
 

@The Stegman

If she gets a movie before Wonder Woman, I'mma choke someone.
Blame the people at DC who made such a stupid and sexist character.
There's nothing stupid nor sexiest about her.
Posted by Illuminatus
@Mercy_ said:

@Illuminatus said:

Black Widow will never get a solo film. Mark my words.

I'm going to troll you relentlessly if she does.

Why would she? Out of all the characters Marvel has talked about creating a film/franchise for, why would they make an espionage movie about a supporting character from two previous films? A SHIELD movie wont likely work either, but a Black Widow solo film definitely wont. Even if they managed to get Joss to write and direct it, it still wouldn't happen.  
 
I like Natasha as a character, and I think she should definitely show up around the various franchises, particularly the Cap films. Put her in the next Avengers film. Just don't spend a hundred million+ dollars on a character that isn't particularly unique. There are other heroines they could focus on.
Posted by Crimsonlord53

@Bestostero said:

Black Widow, yes. Scarlet Johansson, no.

Yuup.

Posted by NlGHTCRAWLER

Not going to happen and if it does we won't see it for another 5-10 years. By then Scar Jo (:P) won't be as... compelling.

Posted by AlKusanagi

@jmood88: It would obviously be an origin, and her origin is largely about her childhood if they're following the comics, so if not a prequel, then it would have a whole lot of flashbacks, but I think that's the format they're going with for Cap 2, with part of it in WW2 and part in the modern day.

If they really want to use the character, they're probably better off with an "Agents of SHIELD" movie that could expand on her, Hawkeye, Nick, Maria Hill, and possibly more Coulson.

Posted by jmood88
@AlKusanagi

@jmood88: It would obviously be an origin, and her origin is largely about her childhood if they're following the comics, so if not a prequel, then it would have a whole lot of flashbacks, but I think that's the format they're going with for Cap 2, with part of it in WW2 and part in the modern day.

If they really want to use the character, they're probably better off with an "Agents of SHIELD" movie that could expand on her, Hawkeye, Nick, Maria Hill, and possibly more Coulson.

Again, why does it need to be an origin? They can continue with whatever SHIELD is doing after The Avengers.
Posted by mewmdude77

I want a Black WidowXWinter Soldier plot movie, where they both are working for the Russian gov't, and have a secret relationship, but then Natasha gets brain washed, and sent to America to take down Iron man, and then meets Hawkeye, and he turns her to the side of good.

Posted by Mercy_

@Illuminatus said:

@Mercy_ said:

@Illuminatus said:

Black Widow will never get a solo film. Mark my words.

I'm going to troll you relentlessly if she does.

Why would she? Out of all the characters Marvel has talked about creating a film/franchise for, why would they make an espionage movie about a supporting character from two previous films? A SHIELD movie wont likely work either, but a Black Widow solo film definitely wont. Even if they managed to get Joss to write and direct it, it still wouldn't happen. I like Natasha as a character, and I think she should definitely show up around the various franchises, particularly the Cap films. Put her in the next Avengers film. Just don't spend a hundred million+ dollars on a character that isn't particularly unique. There are other heroines they could focus on.

Why wouldn't they? It's a character whose origin and previous relationships and connections are steeped in mystery. There's obviously interest from the fans and it's another way for them to capitalize on the success of Avengers. If they think it would be profitable to them (which they obviously do), then they're going to do it, which they've already said they will.

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Posted by Illuminatus
@Mercy_ said:

@Illuminatus said:

@Mercy_ said:

@Illuminatus said:

Black Widow will never get a solo film. Mark my words.

I'm going to troll you relentlessly if she does.

Why would she? Out of all the characters Marvel has talked about creating a film/franchise for, why would they make an espionage movie about a supporting character from two previous films? A SHIELD movie wont likely work either, but a Black Widow solo film definitely wont. Even if they managed to get Joss to write and direct it, it still wouldn't happen. I like Natasha as a character, and I think she should definitely show up around the various franchises, particularly the Cap films. Put her in the next Avengers film. Just don't spend a hundred million+ dollars on a character that isn't particularly unique. There are other heroines they could focus on.

Why wouldn't they? It's a character whose origin and previous relationships and connections are steeped in mystery. There's obviously interest from the fans and it's another way for them to capitalize on the success of Avengers. If they think it would be profitable to them (which they obviously do), then they're going to do it, which they've already said they will.

Bah. They really should just focus on Dr. Strange and Ant-Man, amongst other vehicles. If they're only going to put a Black Widow film into production because it would be a relatively safe investment, I'll be disheartened by the lack of ingenuity coming out of Marvel. 
Posted by Mercy_

@Illuminatus said:

@Mercy_ said:

@Illuminatus said:

@Mercy_ said:

@Illuminatus said:

Black Widow will never get a solo film. Mark my words.

I'm going to troll you relentlessly if she does.

Why would she? Out of all the characters Marvel has talked about creating a film/franchise for, why would they make an espionage movie about a supporting character from two previous films? A SHIELD movie wont likely work either, but a Black Widow solo film definitely wont. Even if they managed to get Joss to write and direct it, it still wouldn't happen. I like Natasha as a character, and I think she should definitely show up around the various franchises, particularly the Cap films. Put her in the next Avengers film. Just don't spend a hundred million+ dollars on a character that isn't particularly unique. There are other heroines they could focus on.

Why wouldn't they? It's a character whose origin and previous relationships and connections are steeped in mystery. There's obviously interest from the fans and it's another way for them to capitalize on the success of Avengers. If they think it would be profitable to them (which they obviously do), then they're going to do it, which they've already said they will.

Bah. They really should just focus on Dr. Strange and Ant-Man, amongst other vehicles. If they're only going to put a Black Widow film into production because it would be a relatively safe investment, I'll be disheartened by the lack of ingenuity coming out of Marvel.

A. I WANT TO SEE THAT ANT-MAN MOVIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Dream cast is Fillion with Morena Baccarin as Janet.

B. I don't think that's they're ONLY reason, but it's definitely a driving one. Like I said, there's so much about Natasha that's unknown and that could differ from what they've done with Marvel movies so far (IE they could go the spy thriller route with her if they wanted). However, I'd enjoy the movie more and think it would be a more successful movie if, like suggested earlier, they made it a SHIELD movie and included at the very least, her history with Hawkeye.

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Posted by Super_SoldierXII

I have no interest in a Black Widow movie with or without Scarlet. Though she was admittedly a pleasant surprise in Avengers (she really did do a good job and pulled it off in ways I never would have given her credit for) I still don't really take to her particular curves, personality and style in the part.

I don't see the movie version placing her in a main role garnering enough interest. Though the Avengers was definitely a huge step in the right direction. Not enough 'super' in the heroine for my tastes. There are other female protagonists I'd rather see take center stage.

Posted by Illuminatus
@Mercy_ said: 

B. I don't think that's they're ONLY reason, but it's definitely a driving one. Like I said, there's so much about Natasha that's unknown and that could differ from what they've done with Marvel movies so far (IE they could go the spy thriller route with her if they wanted). However, I'd enjoy the movie more and think it would be a more successful movie if, like suggested earlier, they made it a SHIELD movie and included at the very least, her history with Hawkeye.

Or, you know, they could save us the history of two supporting characters and put it towards a Dr. Strange film. :p
Posted by cattlebattle

Scarlett Johanssen is beautiful, and she fits in some roles like her part in Ghost Town, Lost in Translation.....she does not fit the role of Black Widow what so ever IMO, her delivery is so monotone.....

Posted by Mercy_

@Illuminatus: Right, because that seems like it'd do soooooooo well ;p

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Posted by longbowhunter

I hated Scarlet Johansson as Black Widow in Iron Man 2, but in the Avengers she was one of the highlights of the whole movie. I'd totally be down for a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie.

Posted by benhoot

Anyone else falling in love with Mercy_??

I do feel the movie could work considering Marvel Studios has done a fantastic job with the cinematic universe but I do not feel they would realistically pursue a solo Black Widow film. My guess is that they would not trust a superhero movie with a female lead to do as well as their other recent ventures. I think they'd feel cautious when any exec brought up other female superhero movies like Elektra and Catwoman. (because those movies BOMBED)

Here's to hoping..

Real talk tho - She'll probably be a main focus for the Nick Fury Solo film

Posted by evilvegeta74

I admit she's a great character, but only a support type. i can't see her holding her own in an entire movie. I feel that there are more important female Avengers who deserve their there own movie before she is even considered, lets say Ms. Marvel if they wanna go with the secret agent thing, that would be an easy fit. Iwould have rather seen the wasp in the movie since she was an original Avenger and far more involved in Avenger story lines. The widow was cool in the movie, but support is better suited for her.Give us different female Avengers in the next movie and send her on some missdion somewhere with a action filled guest appearance.

Posted by Mercy_

@benhoot: Thanks :D

And don't even mention Catwoman as a superhero movie. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing it had in common with superheroes and comics was the unfortunate coincidence of sharing the same name as an amazing character that it had absolutely nothing to do about.

@evilvegeta74: To be fair, although this hasn't really been played up so much recently, Natasha was a staple of The Avengers since pretty much the beginning and lead the team for a good while, as well. I personally like her more in the intelligence aspect of things (working with Fury and Winter Soldier).

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Posted by NyxEquitis

You know what movie really needs to be made...AGENT COULSON PREQUEL SPINOFF!!!

Posted by Illuminatus
@Mercy_ said:

@Illuminatus: Right, because that seems like it'd do soooooooo well ;p

It would. If you make a dark Dr. Strange film, audiences will come. Put Marvel Studios on the banner and tease a connection to the rest of the continuity and it'll make $300 million easily, on top of the fact that it would be something new and innovative, instead of just another espionage/origin story.:p
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