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Who Are The NEW Dark & Mighty Avengers?

The Avengers teams are getting their rosters mixed up.

There's already been talk and speculation about the new Avengers teams.  Marvel's released tiny bits of info along with the creative teams involved. 

Dark Avengers #1, on sale 1/21/09
Let's start with the Dark Avengers.
Who is the Iron Patriot? And just why has he assembled the Dark Avengers? Enter Dark Avengers #1, kicking off an explosive new era for Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, from acclaimed scribe Brian Bendis and superstar artist Mike Deodato!  This star studded creative team presents an all new ongoing series spinning out of Dark Reign, but just who are the Dark Avengers?  Featuring Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hawkeye, Ms Marvel and more like you’ve never seen them before, this is the series that’ll have everyone buzzing in 2009! This issue features variant covers by the red-hot Adi Granov and Marko Djurdjevic, one of the acclaimed Young Guns ‘09 artists! Plus, don’t miss the Blank Cover Variant that you can take to events all year for your favorite writers, artists, or even editors, to illustrate!

This is an interesting line up. Spider-Man, Hawkeye and Wolverine together makes sense.  But Ms. Marvel with them?  They've had some harsh words in the New Avengers/Mighty Avengers showdowns.  Also why is Spidey in the black suit (please, please, please let it be Ben Reilly!)?  I've tried avoiding the talk about this but I guess it's time I step in.  I thought the Dark Avengers would be part of Norman's schemes since he has possession of the Avengers Tower (we have it listed as Stark Tower, should it be changed?).  But Wolverine and Hawkeye working for him?  As I said, I've tried avoiding the interview discussions about this.  I'm sure Bendis has some twisted ideas up his sleave.  Having Mike Deodato on board is the icing on the cake.

Mighty Avengers #21, on sale 1/14/09
What about the all new Mighty Avengers?
As dark times lie ahead for the Marvel U, a new age of all out Avengers action begins this December in the giant-sized Mighty Avengers #21!  Join the superstar creative team of Dan Slott and Khoi Pham for the next exciting chapter in the lives of Earth’s mightiest heroes!  After the events of Secret Invasion, the landscape of the Marvel U has forever changed – and with that, so comes a new team of Avengers!  And one of the most popular Avengers of all time, makes her long awaited return! Get ready for all of the chaos and action you can handle in this special giant-sized issue! Guest starring: the New Avengers, Dark Avengers, Young Avengers and Classic Avengers!

So where do the Mighty Avengers stand? Which side will they be on?  As for the long awaited return of a female Avengers, they're talking about Jocasta, right?  I'm kidding.  I'm sure they're talking about Scarlet Witch.  Hopefully she's not cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs anymore.  Wonder what she'll think about Mockingbird being back since she and Clint hooked up in New Avengers #26

Wow.  Remember when the Avengers were just mediocre?
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Posted by Meteorite

Dark Avengers sound cool.

Posted by The_Martian

I'll leave spoilers for another thread:P But I'm really excited about all the Avengers titles.

Posted by Mr. Wilson

I think its the T-Bolts for Dark Avengers with Daken and Marvel Boy and Sentry.

Posted by Shaper
RRN! (Resurrection Right Now)
Posted by Mr. Wilson

lol

It might work but I don't think Norman would want a clone of Spidey on his team...

Posted by Divine_Monkey

They've already released art that shows that "Wolverine" is Daken. And also that Marvel Boy will be part of the line-up. Add to that the name "Dark Avengers" and the "Accept change" line, and it's probably a safe bet that this is Norman Osborns new crew (based on his old Thunderbolts). It could very well be him in the Iron Patriot armor; he has the tech and it would be a great insult to Stark. Next up "Spider-Man"; look at the body type and pose. If that's not Venom, I'll eat my own socks. My guess for Hawkeye would be Bullseye. He's got good aim. That would leave Moonstone for Ms.Marvel.

Posted by Irving Forbush

That is SO Venom!

And it being Bullseye standing in for Hawkeye would fit seamlessly with Bullseye's reaction to/not killing Moonstone in TBolts 127.  

Cannot tell from the teaser poster if it's Daken, but i would not put it past that evil genius Bendis

Posted by danhimself

i just want them to reveal who they are already...i am getting really sick and tired of all the guessing of identities that's been going on with marvel lately first it was the skrulls now it's the dark avengers and who's the chick black panther....can't we just get used to one thing for awhile without them having to "shake things up".......i for one really liked the original new avengers line up and would've like to have had some more time with them but then civil war happened and cap was dead and then the mighty avengers come along and just when you start to get used to those 2 line ups now we have 3 avengers teams to get to know....am i the only one that thinks this is just getting ridiculous

Posted by Vance Astro
danhimself said:
"i just want them to reveal who they are already...i am getting really sick and tired of all the guessing of identities that's been going on with marvel lately first it was the skrulls now it's the dark avengers and who's the chick black panther....can't we just get used to one thing for awhile without them having to "shake things up".......i for one really liked the original new avengers line up and would've like to have had some more time with them but then civil war happened and cap was dead and then the mighty avengers come along and just when you start to get used to those 2 line ups now we have 3 avengers teams to get to know....am i the only one that thinks this is just getting ridiculous"
I agree.It's annoying now.
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Posted by Meteorite
Shaper said:
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RRN! (Resurrection Right Now)
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That is such a good picture of Ben that I'm saving it and using it as an avatar.
Posted by warlock360

Accept Change? hmmm I know who iron patiriot is, it's barrack obama! xD

Posted by Vance Astro
Voidheart said:
"Accept Change? hmmm I know who iron patiriot is, it's barrack obama! xD"
Actually the new solicits show...It's Michelle Obama.
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Posted by Slinger
G-Man said:
"Wow.  Remember when the Avengers were just mediocre?"
Yeah. Then they put Spider-Man and Wolverine on the team.
Posted by The Wind-Stalker

i agree with danhimself

Posted by The Minuteman
Vance Astro said:
"danhimself said:
"i just want them to reveal who they are already...i am getting really sick and tired of all the guessing of identities that's been going on with marvel lately first it was the skrulls now it's the dark avengers and who's the chick black panther....can't we just get used to one thing for awhile without them having to "shake things up".......i for one really liked the original new avengers line up and would've like to have had some more time with them but then civil war happened and cap was dead and then the mighty avengers come along and just when you start to get used to those 2 line ups now we have 3 avengers teams to get to know....am i the only one that thinks this is just getting ridiculous"
I agree.It's annoying now."
I have a feeling that Dark Reign will be a sort of spring board into a period of normalcy. Where badguys are badguys, and the lines aren't quite as blurred as they have been, but I could be wrong.
Posted by fesak
danhimself said:
"i just want them to reveal who they are already...i am getting really sick and tired of all the guessing of identities that's been going on with marvel lately first it was the skrulls now it's the dark avengers and who's the chick black panther....can't we just get used to one thing for awhile without them having to "shake things up".......i for one really liked the original new avengers line up and would've like to have had some more time with them but then civil war happened and cap was dead and then the mighty avengers come along and just when you start to get used to those 2 line ups now we have 3 avengers teams to get to know....am i the only one that thinks this is just getting ridiculous"

Thinking on it this has been going on a while. Who are the Young Avengers? Who are the New Warriors? Who is Mutant Zero? Who is baby mutant? Who is Red Hulk?
A mystery once in a while could be interesting, but when they use this plot device constantly people are bound to lose interest.
Does anyone even care who the new Black Panther is?
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Posted by Vance Astro
The Minuteman said:
"Vance Astro said:
"danhimself said:
"i just want them to reveal who they are already...i am getting really sick and tired of all the guessing of identities that's been going on with marvel lately first it was the skrulls now it's the dark avengers and who's the chick black panther....can't we just get used to one thing for awhile without them having to "shake things up".......i for one really liked the original new avengers line up and would've like to have had some more time with them but then civil war happened and cap was dead and then the mighty avengers come along and just when you start to get used to those 2 line ups now we have 3 avengers teams to get to know....am i the only one that thinks this is just getting ridiculous"
I agree.It's annoying now."
I have a feeling that Dark Reign will be a sort of spring board into a period of normalcy. Where badguys are badguys, and the lines aren't quite as blurred as they have been, but I could be wrong."
Actually it looks to me like the bad guys are the good guys.
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Posted by The Minuteman
Vance Astro said:
"Actually it looks to me like the bad guys are the good guys."
By spring board I meant the period after Dark Reign, not the reign itself.
Posted by Vance Astro
fesak said:
"danhimself said:
"i just want them to reveal who they are already...i am getting really sick and tired of all the guessing of identities that's been going on with marvel lately first it was the skrulls now it's the dark avengers and who's the chick black panther....can't we just get used to one thing for awhile without them having to "shake things up".......i for one really liked the original new avengers line up and would've like to have had some more time with them but then civil war happened and cap was dead and then the mighty avengers come along and just when you start to get used to those 2 line ups now we have 3 avengers teams to get to know....am i the only one that thinks this is just getting ridiculous"
Does anyone even care who the new Black Panther is?"
I kind of care...but if it isn't Echo I am almost positive I'm not going to care who it actually is..and honestly still even if it is Echo I might not like it because I don't want her written by Hudlin.He is the worst thing to happen to comics since Superman's crossover with the NesQuick Bunny.
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Posted by speedlgt

This is a major problem you cant just have cliff hangers all the time.....people get tired of that and at some point want a resolution! not just for one thing to lead to another mystery you can only milk that cow a few times!

Posted by Vance Astro
speedlgt said:
"This is a major problem you cant just have cliff hangers all the time.....people get tired of that and at some point want a resolution! not just for one thing to lead to another mystery you can only milk that cow a few times!"
Agreed.
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Posted by Overseer

OK seriously! What is Osborn up to!? Some over the top plot to kill Spidey (he is obsesed with that after all) and gain ultimate power? I don't trust most of his team as far as I can throw them! (Though I'd, love to throw them a long long way!)