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What Are The Ingredients For A Good Wonder Woman Television Series?

We look at previous adaptations of the character for the small screen to identify what works, and what didn't.

Wonder Woman is sort of an elusive character. Who she is and what attributes define her are sometimes difficult to explain, which is one of the reasons why she is so difficult to write well, and may be one reason why film and television executives have stayed away from adaptations of her character. She is a super powered woman who stands for very specific principles but her heritage and her background are so unique that it is nearly impossible to make audiences relate to her. She is an Amazon warrior woman and also a compassionate character but if tested and pushed to her limits, she is ruthless. She has grace, beauty, charm and charisma; and if she sounds a little like a perfect woman, that right there may be one of her biggest flaws.

For the last several years we have heard rumors of a Wonder Woman movie or television series. We even saw the pilot to a Wonder Woman TV show written by David E. Kelley (Ally McBeal) that (thankfully) never got off the ground. More recently, following the success of Arrow for the CW, the network has looked to Diana for their next potential superhero inspired television series. Yet, unlike Arrow, Wonder Woman isn't exactly black and white. She's far less grounded than Oliver Queen and a whole heck of a lot more complicated. Beyond that, there have also been a lot of different versions of her character. So how do you make a good Wonder Woman television series? What are the ingredients to make something like this work? To answer this question, we looked at what is wrong with the character and what we feel would not translate well onto the small screen.

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The Wonder Woman Origin

In her comic book origin, Diana is sculpted out of clay by her Mother with the blessings of the Olympian Goddesses. She is raised as a great warrior on a peaceful island made up only of women. This entire idea, while interesting, is impossible for the average person to relate to. Take for example a character like Superman; he may have been an alien who crash landed in Smallville, but he was raised by a warm and loving Mid-Western family. The fact that he also has estranged parents sort of helps his character be more relatable to audiences. It humanizes him in a way because although he is so strong and essentially "super human," he has average problems that a regular person could relate to. The made of clay origin and the being raised on an island of women doesn't exactly work because it is difficult explain in a real world environment. If that origin is kept, the fact that she comes from a completely different place needs to be meshed into the story. How do you explain her origin but set her story in the real world?

In the current Wonder Woman comic book series, Diana's origin story was changed. In it, Hippolyta falls in love with Zeus and they conceive a child -- Diana. She grows up not knowing her father and thinking she had no male figure in her life. This creates a very interesting dynamic and one that grounds her character. It demonstrates that she has "regular people problems," not just "I have to save the world," problems and I think that is important. Whatever origin this next show chooses to use, in order to make it feel grounded and to appeal to a mass audience, Diana will have to feel relatable on an emotional level.

The Costume

None of Wonder Woman's costumes have been very good. Her original costume with the skirt, while cute, was impractical. The red, white and blue strapless leotard with red knee high boots; while iconic, ridiculous to actually fight in. The pants and strapless top worn by actress Adrianne Palicki on the most recent attempt at an adaptation for a Wonder Woman television series may have been better than the previous two mentioned, but it still does not really work. The texture was shiny and looked cheap, and as good as Palicki's acting was in the pilot episode of that show, even she could not make that costume look better.

Regardless, the character definitely needs a costume redesign both for her current comic book series as well as in the CW television show. We recently saw an incredible redesign of her costume that went viral illustrated by artist Rahzahh. The best thing about this costume design is the fact that it takes many of the elements of her costume (the eagle emblem and the red, white and blue stars and stripes) and incorporates them into a new costume that not only covers her entire body and looks practical, but it is more fitting for a warrior than a skimpy bathing suit. She looks cool and looks believable, like she could kick major butt, and I think that's important.

Tone

If it's going to air on the CW, then it's likely to target a very specific, teenage demographic. Although I will be the first to say that there are a lot of elements of Arrow that I find cheesy, overall I think it does a relatively good job walking the line between the unbelievable and grounded in reality. In order for this show to work the tone needs to make the story feel grounded. Mind you, grounded does not necessarily mean dark, but it does mean more serious. If you focus on relating the character to audiences on an emotional level, chances are you will have more luck with the show. It also needs to be well written and consistent. It needs to focus on her flaws and imperfections as well as her battles.

Consider The Budget and Cameo Appearances

Obviously you can't expect that every single member of the Justice League is going to show up for her television show, and although seeing many familiar faces on the CW's Arrow series has been fun a lot of the time, the majority of these characters are street level at best. Wonder Woman is super powered, and if you can't show her doing crazy stunts, then don't even try.

It is also important to look at the character's identity and consider what other characters are important and supplemental to her story. Artemis, Hippolyta and Ares, for example, are vital to the Wonder Woman mythos and are a group of characters that should absolutely be featured on the show.

If it were up to me, I would personally focus on her youth and younger years, much like the CW did for Smallville. It is impossible to really relay all of Superman's feats as an adult hero without spending a whole lot of money, and it's easier and more cost effective to tell the story of his youth. The same can be said for Wonder Woman. The show could easily focus on Diana's youth and her years on Paradise Island and still remain cost effective. It would also explore her character and identity in ways we haven't yet seen which would definitely add to her story.

What do you think, though? What do you think that the CW's upcoming Amazon should be like? Should it be set in present day, or on Paradise Island? How much of Wonder Woman's mythology should be kept? What should the show's focus be on? What characters would you like to see and should her costume be changed? Let us know in the comments below.

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Posted by darkman61288

@GodDamnIronMan:

colonyofcells' idea is how WW would been if she was created in today's world. She was created in the 1940's when Superman was DC's most popular character so she was inspired by him. Had she been created today she would have been inspired by Batman.

Posted by fables87

@darkman61288 said:

@GodDamnIronMan:

colonyofcells' idea is how WW would been if she was created in today's world. She was created in the 1940's when Superman was DC's most popular character so she was inspired by him. Had she been created today she would have been inspired by Batman.

That's essentially Batwoman isn't it?

Posted by ArmeisV

Everyone is talking about her costume, but nobody ask her about it

Posted by jphulk26

@fables87 said:

@jphulk26 said:

@fables87 said:

I think if they make a Wonder Woman TV show or movie they should base it off the new series right now. It's the Justice League cartoon that made me read the comics and now it's the new series that's making me love her character more. Like as much as Lynda Carter made Wonder Woman, that show can get kinda cheesy. I feel like WW should be taken more seriously if they want anything of hers to work. Unfortunately, there are fans of WW out there that just want her going back to the time with bad writing.

@fables87: I don´t really get what you mean. You know there are more interpretations of Wonder Woman than just the LC TV show, and the current series. No WW fan wants them to go back to LC show as inspiration. I think the animated film would be good inspiration as well as Rucka and Simones run on the character. They would mesh well. I also think they can take some of the horror elements from the current series, but not Azzerrelo´s pathetic retcon of her origin. Otherwise I certainly won´t be watching.

I would watch his creation in a heart beat. I think a lot more people would watch it if the made her like a real Amazon. Not the peace and loving crap. Amazons kill, have sex, and cut off breast in the real myths. Plus what sells on TV right now are the shows you see on HBO, Showtime, and FX. They are dark, violent, and sexy. All of those elements are in Azzarello's run.

I agree, what an unfortunate society we live in. ;) But on a serious note, I like that as well. I have no problem with it being dark, violent and sexy. I think her comic has been in past and as I´ve said a million times, and I don´t mean to be repetitive, but its been like that in a more interesting, action packed and humorous way. Even the animated feture was quite dark, violent and sexy and that was an adaptation of Perez. Why can´t they use that as a template, just make it a bit darker and add Azzerrelo´s horror elements to it? I think that could work really well.

Posted by fables87

@jphulk26 said:

@fables87 said:

@jphulk26 said:

@fables87 said:

I think if they make a Wonder Woman TV show or movie they should base it off the new series right now. It's the Justice League cartoon that made me read the comics and now it's the new series that's making me love her character more. Like as much as Lynda Carter made Wonder Woman, that show can get kinda cheesy. I feel like WW should be taken more seriously if they want anything of hers to work. Unfortunately, there are fans of WW out there that just want her going back to the time with bad writing.

@fables87: I don´t really get what you mean. You know there are more interpretations of Wonder Woman than just the LC TV show, and the current series. No WW fan wants them to go back to LC show as inspiration. I think the animated film would be good inspiration as well as Rucka and Simones run on the character. They would mesh well. I also think they can take some of the horror elements from the current series, but not Azzerrelo´s pathetic retcon of her origin. Otherwise I certainly won´t be watching.

I would watch his creation in a heart beat. I think a lot more people would watch it if the made her like a real Amazon. Not the peace and loving crap. Amazons kill, have sex, and cut off breast in the real myths. Plus what sells on TV right now are the shows you see on HBO, Showtime, and FX. They are dark, violent, and sexy. All of those elements are in Azzarello's run.

I agree, what an unfortunate society we live in. ;) But on a serious note, I like that as well. I have no problem with it being dark, violent and sexy. I think her comic has been in past and as I´ve said a million times, and I don´t mean to be repetitive, but its been like that in a more interesting, action packed and humorous way. Even the animated feture was quite dark, violent and sexy and that was an adaptation of Perez. Why can´t they use that as a template, just make it a bit darker and add Azzerrelo´s horror elements to it? I think that could work really well.

I'm getting confused what you opinion is. First you say Azzerello's run is "pathetic" and now you want the horror elements. Am I talking with the same person? Do you read the new comic or not?

Edited by Mutant God

I think the closest thing to a live action Wonder Woman is Xena

Posted by darkman61288

@fables87: Batwoman was trained by secret group of women ninjas?

Posted by hyperman

@Mbecks14 said:

@liquid3601 said:

Feels like I'm the last person on earth that WANTS cheese in their superhero shows/movies. They're based on COMIC BOOKS. If anybody is going to try and convince me that comic books aren't silly and cheesy they can get out of town. Marvel has embraced the bombast of comic books in their adaptations but DC seems to be hiding all their properties behind a veil of "realism" and making them dark and gritty and it's just nonsense. I'm not saying everything has to be silver age Batman like the 60s TV show and I know budget can be a major issue, but give me WW in full costume fighting fricken MYTHOLOGICAL MONSTERS. Showcase her crazy ass family like Azzarello is doing now. Hell just make it a fricken Xena reboot. There are a bunch of ways they could adapt the character and make an excellent show but as long as everybody wants every DC show/movie to be a rip off of Nolan's Batman movies it's always going to fail.

Oh my god yes! Everything here! Superheroes don't have to be dark, gritty, and broody to be cool!

Why does it seem that every superhero deserves a movie, but wonder woman doesn't?? Her story is epic , classic! she is the one who really deserves her own film. She has proved to be popular in shows like Superfriends and Justice league, and she didn't have to change her origin, her power or her costume. Moreover, stop messing with her costume!! she is an amazon, a demi-goddess, it's all about fantasy, she can still kick asses and look hot with her costume because that's what people want to see!

Posted by Daffodil

Everyone is saying how the show needs to be so rooted with Paradise Island, but everyone should remember... it would air on the CW. Shows aren't given exactly the highest budget to film with, and Paradise Island would need to be either filmed in New Zealand or completely CGI. The whole point is to make a drama/action with a young Wonder Woman in the US. A fish out of water story. And Artemis, Hippolyta, and Ares aren't anymore vital in my opinion than Etta Candy, Steve Trevor, or Cheetah.

As for the origin, I do agree the Zeus origin is interesting and fresh. But relatable? No way. Sure, she has a father now... but he's king of the gods.

Posted by SCORPIO_CASSADINE

@Mutant God said:

I think the closest thing to a live action Wonder Woman is Xena

NO IT'S NOT! It amazes me that all these people that ARE NOT fans of Wonder Woman want to tell everyone how she should be done.

1. If you don't like the traditional Wonder Woman costume you are not a fan.

2. If you think she's too campy, you are not a fan.

3. If you think she should be more like Xena you are not a fan, (plus you're trying to make me hurl).

Tweeking the original to be more like the knock-off is asinine. Wonder Woman works best as a contemporary superheroine that fights gods, monsters, supervillains and misconceptions about women, it's as simple as that. There's no reason her show can't take place in modern America with side trips to Themyscira to battle Hydra, or to the underworld to battle demons. The key is to make the actress that plays her believable and relatable and that will ground the more fantastic elements of the character.

Posted by Chibi-Iroh

@Daffodil: People respond well to Hercules, Perseus, and any other story where the main character is the child of Zeus. I mean look at Percy Jackson that series is filled with characters who are the offspring of gods and yet its popular and people relate to the characters. People can't relate to Thor yet he is a popular character.

Posted by Chibi-Iroh

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: Don't tell me I'm not a fan because I believe that Diana's costume is outdated and extremely impractical for her character. Don't tell me that because I can see similarities in Diana and Xena that I am not a fan.

Posted by Doctor!!!!!

I think I should make a Wonder Woman series, cause I know the formula, and I can do it!

Posted by Mutant God

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Mutant God said:

I think the closest thing to a live action Wonder Woman is Xena

NO IT'S NOT! It amazes me that all these people that ARE NOT fans of Wonder Woman want to tell everyone how she should be done.

1. If you don't like the traditional Wonder Woman costume you are not a fan.

2. If you think she's too campy, you are not a fan.

3. If you think she should be more like Xena you are not a fan, (plus you're trying to make me hurl).

Tweeking the original to be more like the knock-off is asinine. Wonder Woman works best as a contemporary superheroine that fights gods, monsters, supervillains and misconceptions about women, it's as simple as that. There's no reason her show can't take place in modern America with side trips to Themyscira to battle Hydra, or to the underworld to battle demons. The key is to make the actress that plays her believable and relatable and that will ground the more fantastic elements of the character.

I didn't say she should be Xena I'm just saying there are similar: warrior women who encounters gods and monsters in her travels

Posted by SCORPIO_CASSADINE

@Mutant God:

That's because Xena is an imitation of Wonder Woman. That's also why Wonder Woman shouldn't copy her.

Posted by SCORPIO_CASSADINE

@Chibi-Iroh said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: Don't tell me I'm not a fan because I believe that Diana's costume is outdated and extremely impractical for her character. Don't tell me that because I can see similarities in Diana and Xena that I am not a fan.

Too late.

Posted by queenfrost_

That costume design is good...For an older Diana. If they were to re-design her costume I think they should modernise it even further and keep it rather simplistic (but not skimpy).

Posted by No_Name_

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Chibi-Iroh said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: Don't tell me I'm not a fan because I believe that Diana's costume is outdated and extremely impractical for her character. Don't tell me that because I can see similarities in Diana and Xena that I am not a fan.

Too late.

Why are you being rude?

Posted by edge0076

@Cosmic Sentinel said:

If the Marvel films have taught us anything, it's that being "realistic" isn't as important as bringing the essence of the character out. Thor is probably the closest to Wonder Woman and that was loaded with fantasy elements. The drama really should be about her trying to fit into our world, which is something most people can relate too. But that should be balanced with her beating up minotaurs, real minotaurs, not some guy in a silly outfit who calls himself the Minotaur. I'd personally prefer it to be a film than a TV show so they have the budget to do it well, but if they can do it on TV then awesome.

Also, the Marvel films show that audiences are okay with heroes from very different backgrounds coming together. Feel free to have her guest star in Arrow, or Oliver show up in her show.

This. Exactly this. In fact, I think my favorite parts about Thor were him trying to assimilate. IMHO, you can take a similar approach with WW except maker her less arrogant about it.

Posted by edge0076

@ArmeisV said:

Everyone is talking about her costume, but nobody ask her about it

I love Frank Cho. :)

Posted by TheCannon

Here's how a Wonder Woman TV Show should be done:

Cancel it, make a good movie.

Posted by SCORPIO_CASSADINE

@Babs said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Chibi-Iroh said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: Don't tell me I'm not a fan because I believe that Diana's costume is outdated and extremely impractical for her character. Don't tell me that because I can see similarities in Diana and Xena that I am not a fan.

Too late.

Why are you being rude?

I'm not being rude, I'm being honest. Saying you're a fan while proposing fundamental changes makes no sense to me. It's like saying you're a fan of Picasso, but you want his work to be photo realistic. Or saying you like McDonald's but only if they change the fries to baked potatoes, and the Quarter Pounders into steaks. If that's the case you should have been eating at Ruth Chris from the beginning and left McDonald's for the people that genuinely like it.

There's a hero for every sensibility, if Wonder Woman doesn't fit yours you should move on to one that does.

Edited by blackair9

Excellent Point point by @ssejllenrad I second this. Wonder woman is a greek type. Her costume should be designed by the costumers from the movie Troy. All leather and bronze.

Storywise smallville worked because there was precedent for telling Superboy stories in the mythose. lets no muddle with Wonder Woman background just for the sake of TV (see how well that worked for BOP). They should take a page from Arrow and tell her story like she starts "the fish out of water" they would have a lot of opportunity to tell thought pervoking stories about gender, politics and attitude that way. trying to make it 90210 or ally mcbeal ish is will die quickly. it needs are Nikita, Alias or Continum feel that gets both genders invovled in the characters.

Posted by Chibi-Iroh

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: So because I'd like her costume to actually reflect who she is I'm not a fan? Dude I dont know who you think you are, but you can take that crap somewhere else. Wonder Woman's costume has been outdated for decades now just like Superman's was until they removed those hideous red underwear. Like I said don't tell me I'm not a fan of something just because as I fan I have suggestions on how to make one of my favorite character better.

Posted by SCORPIO_CASSADINE

@blackair9 said:

@ssejllenrad: Excellent Point. I second this. Wonder woman is a greek type. Her costume should be designed by the costumers from the movie Troy. All leather and bronze.

We've seen all that before, in Troy, in Spartacus, in 300, in Gladiator, in Hercules, in Xena, in Percy Jackson, in Clash of the Titans, etc.

It's not often you see a woman in a patriotic star spangled swimsuit fighting crime and throwing trucks. That's one of the beautiful things about Wonder Woman.

Posted by No_Name_

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Babs said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Chibi-Iroh said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: Don't tell me I'm not a fan because I believe that Diana's costume is outdated and extremely impractical for her character. Don't tell me that because I can see similarities in Diana and Xena that I am not a fan.

Too late.

Why are you being rude?

I'm not being rude, I'm being honest. Saying you're a fan while proposing fundamental changes makes no sense to me. It's like saying you're a fan of Picasso, but you want his work to be photo realistic. Or saying you like McDonald's but only if they change the fries to baked potatoes, and the Quarter Pounders into steaks. If that's the case you should have been eating at Ruth Chris from the beginning and left McDonald's for the people that genuinely like it.

There's a hero for every sensibility, if Wonder Woman doesn't fit yours you should move on to one that does.

This person made a mention of the costume. I love Wonder Woman but I think she needs a better costume. I don't see what the problem with that is. The costume does not define her character.

Posted by 00 Raiser

To be honest I like that Armored Costume picture of Wonder Woman with the fiery backdrop above. Take that and mix it with a little Xena Warrior princess and place her somewhere modern and you have a winner.

Posted by kid Apollo

instead of looking for way to get the audience to relate to her origin they should approach it from a different angle. try and relate her and viewers to the fact that she wouldnt know her place in society. make it a show about finding yourself, and staying strong on your beliefs vs givin in to the ease of modern society

shes a fish out of water while shes in the big cities, play that up.

Edited by SCORPIO_CASSADINE

@Babs said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Babs said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Chibi-Iroh said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: Don't tell me I'm not a fan because I believe that Diana's costume is outdated and extremely impractical for her character. Don't tell me that because I can see similarities in Diana and Xena that I am not a fan.

Too late.

Why are you being rude?

I'm not being rude, I'm being honest. Saying you're a fan while proposing fundamental changes makes no sense to me. It's like saying you're a fan of Picasso, but you want his work to be photo realistic. Or saying you like McDonald's but only if they change the fries to baked potatoes, and the Quarter Pounders into steaks. If that's the case you should have been eating at Ruth Chris from the beginning and left McDonald's for the people that genuinely like it.

There's a hero for every sensibility, if Wonder Woman doesn't fit yours you should move on to one that does.

This person made a mention of the costume. I love Wonder Woman but I think she needs a better costume. I don't see what the problem with that is. The costume does not define her character.

To you it might not, but it does to countless people. It's iconic, and the greatest thing about it is you can alter the details so it fits in every time period. The Dodson costume looks every bit as good as H.G. Peter's version from 1942 and they're both instantly recognizable as Wonder Woman.

The costume is colorful, sparkly and impractical and that's what people love about it. And it gets A LOT of love. I have pics of various celebrities wearing it, not for a role, but because they genuinely like it and what it represents.

Edited by jphulk26

@fables87 said:

@jphulk26 said:

I'm getting confused what you opinion is. First you say Azzerello's run is "pathetic" and now you want the horror elements. Am I talking with the same person? Do you read the new comic or not?

I have read the Azz´s run, and most elements of it I don´t like, but like anything it has some redeeming features. For instance as you´ve said with programmes like the Walking Dead being really in at the moment you could borrow the horror and monster tropes from the current series and incorporate that with the initial origin. I´m someone who firmly believes in not throwing the baby out with the bath water; for instance John Brynes run of WW should be almost completely forgotten, but he still had some interesting ideas that shouldn´t have been abandoned. For instance he was the first to give Wonder Woman her own city. That was a good idea, but because everyone hated and complained about that series, they got rid of the idea as well. Azz, has got a cool idea in adding horror and monster elements to WW, and giving her a bit of edge, and I´m all for that. However I still think his retcon of her origin doesn´t make much sense and is off putting to alot of people who´ve invested emotion in the character. Now I don´t want to get into an argument of why I think that, cause I´ve mentioned my reasons in other posts, which you can read and reply to if you wish. But your point that those horror elements would sell I think is quite right, and it would make the Wonder Woman story more contemporary. But there are many classical WW villains that could easily fit that bill. Cheetah is almost like a warewolf; Dr. Psycho is a sinister and quite scary villain; the Ares from her former runs had the power to raise the dead; in previous runs, within Paradise Island was the gateway to Tarturus or Hell, the Amazons were allowed to live in paradise by the gods as long as they guarded the doorway to hell, making sure no unwanted creatures escaped from it etc etc. These elements can all be incorporated into the horror themes, that you like and relate to. It doesn´t have to be one way or the other. There´s a middle ground.

"Don´t throw the baby out with the bath water." very good advice. I hope that explains what I mean.

Posted by fables87

@jphulk26 said:

@fables87 said:

@jphulk26 said:

I'm getting confused what you opinion is. First you say Azzerello's run is "pathetic" and now you want the horror elements. Am I talking with the same person? Do you read the new comic or not?

I have read the new comic, and most elements of it I don´t like, but like anything it has some redeeming features. For instance as you´ve said with programmes like the Walking Dead being really in at the moment you could borrow the horror and monster tropes from the current series and incorporate that with the initial origin. I´m someone who firmly believes in not throwing the baby out with the bath water; for instance John Brynes run of WW should be almost completely forgotten, but he still had some interesting ideas that shouldn´t have been abandoned. For instance he was the first to give Wonder Woman her own city. That was a good idea, but because everyone hated and complained about that series, they got rid of the idea as well. Azz, has got a cool idea in adding horror and monster elements to WW, and giving a bit of edge, and I´m all for that. However I still think his retcon of her origin doesn´t make much sense and off putting alot of people with invested emotion in the character. Now I don´t want to get into an argument of why I think that cause I´ve mentioned my reasons in other posts, which you can read and reply to if you wish. But your point that those horror elements would sell I think is quite right, and it would make the Wonder Woman story more contemporary. But there are many classical WW villains that could easily fit that bill. Cheetah is almost like a warewolf, Dr. Psycho is a sinister and quite scary villain, the Ares from her former comics has the power to raise the dead etc etc.

"Don´t throw the baby out with the bath water." very good advice. I hope that explains.

This make more sense then what you were saying before. some of her old villains should be in the show I agree. Others, hell no!

Posted by herrweis

i don't get the whole idea that we "need " to relate to her.superman is totally unrelatable.and so is batman and we still love them.she is a demi goddess who can move mountains,who needs to relate when you can be in awe!as for her costume make the top part more like a battle breastplate and the bottom a gladiator style battle skirt.how hard is that?she is from an culture that is from the ancient greco-roman time period.

Posted by colonyofcells

Even greek gods probably can change their fashion rather than stick to fashion from 4,000 years ago. For a young Diana Prince tv show on CW, there probably won't be a costume similar to Clark Kent having no costume for most of the seasons of Smallville. Later on, Clark just went around in a coat for a costume.

Posted by No_Name_

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Babs said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Babs said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE said:

@Chibi-Iroh said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: Don't tell me I'm not a fan because I believe that Diana's costume is outdated and extremely impractical for her character. Don't tell me that because I can see similarities in Diana and Xena that I am not a fan.

Too late.

Why are you being rude?

I'm not being rude, I'm being honest. Saying you're a fan while proposing fundamental changes makes no sense to me. It's like saying you're a fan of Picasso, but you want his work to be photo realistic. Or saying you like McDonald's but only if they change the fries to baked potatoes, and the Quarter Pounders into steaks. If that's the case you should have been eating at Ruth Chris from the beginning and left McDonald's for the people that genuinely like it.

There's a hero for every sensibility, if Wonder Woman doesn't fit yours you should move on to one that does.

This person made a mention of the costume. I love Wonder Woman but I think she needs a better costume. I don't see what the problem with that is. The costume does not define her character.

To you it might not, but it does to countless people. It's iconic, and the greatest thing about it is you can alter the details so it fits in every time period. The Dodson costume looks every bit as good as H.G. Peter's version from 1942 and they're both instantly recognizable as Wonder Woman.

The costume is colorful, sparkly and impractical and that's what people love about it. And it gets A LOT of love. I have pics of various celebrities wearing it, not for a role, but because they genuinely like it and what it represents.

Now I think you're just trolling and moving off topic.

Edited by colonyofcells

The traditional super hero costumes are quite well known so usually only small changes are made for the tv and movies. In the last Wonder Woman tv pilot, it was pretty much the same old traditional costume and the only change was the pants. For well known costumes like those of Bats, Supes and WW, only small incremental changes can be made over the years altho if you wait a few decades, the accumulation of small costume changes over the years can be a big change. For the comics WW costume, it took several decades to evolve from shorts to panties, eagle symbol to w symbol. So far, the comics costume has not changed much since the 1970s/1980s bronze age and the next change seems to be towards pants.

Posted by SCORPIO_CASSADINE

@Babs: @Babs said:

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@Chibi-Iroh said:

@SCORPIO_CASSADINE: Don't tell me I'm not a fan because I believe that Diana's costume is outdated and extremely impractical for her character. Don't tell me that because I can see similarities in Diana and Xena that I am not a fan.

Too late.

Why are you being rude?

I'm not being rude, I'm being honest. Saying you're a fan while proposing fundamental changes makes no sense to me. It's like saying you're a fan of Picasso, but you want his work to be photo realistic. Or saying you like McDonald's but only if they change the fries to baked potatoes, and the Quarter Pounders into steaks. If that's the case you should have been eating at Ruth Chris from the beginning and left McDonald's for the people that genuinely like it.

There's a hero for every sensibility, if Wonder Woman doesn't fit yours you should move on to one that does.

This person made a mention of the costume. I love Wonder Woman but I think she needs a better costume. I don't see what the problem with that is. The costume does not define her character.

To you it might not, but it does to countless people. It's iconic, and the greatest thing about it is you can alter the details so it fits in every time period. The Dodson costume looks every bit as good as H.G. Peter's version from 1942 and they're both instantly recognizable as Wonder Woman.

The costume is colorful, sparkly and impractical and that's what people love about it. And it gets A LOT of love. I have pics of various celebrities wearing it, not for a role, but because they genuinely like it and what it represents.

Now I think you're just trolling and moving off topic.

Why, because you disagree? How am I moving off topic, I thought the topic was Wonder Woman's costume? This illustrates my earlier point about it's timelessness.

Posted by Blackmoonrose13

@x_29: Xena isn't of the DC universe and it wouldn't make any since

Posted by Press Oblivion

Relatable schmatble the story just has to be good. If they just do a direct translation of Wonder Woman #1 from 1987 everyone will love it . . . end of discussion.

Posted by Amathar

@ssejllenrad said:

Give her an "ancient" costume feel like what Marvel did with Thor.

Donna Troy's Wonder Woman costume would be effective methinks.

Right on.

Posted by jphulk26

@Babs: Hey forgot to say good article.

Posted by Danial79

If it's not set in the modern day, I feel it would end up like Xena, and I never could stand that show...

Posted by Perfect 10

am i the only person in the world who watched xena? they made that work for what six/seven seasons and you telling me people are afraid to even try with a wonder woman? come on, xena proved it could work. but with the current market of shows being all dark and gritty and about the "urban" life style (cant remember the last time i saw a show without ever going to a club once) i doubt they would ever do a paradise island story especially not cw with their young demographic. though i would love to see wonder woman on paradise island traveling and interacting with the gods and monsters of yore and they could work their way into her coming to man's world like they did with clark on smallville. if they do do it as her coming to man's world they need to SHOW us that story, also i may be in the minority with this but i have no problem either the costume adrienne wore or wonder woman's traditional costume (prefer the traditional). the show isnt "how does she fight in that" its called wonder woman, lets focus people

Posted by Perfect 10

@UltraBiel: words of wisdom

Posted by Danial79

I think they'd be better off just giving her an awesome movie...

Posted by ssejllenrad

Not a suggestion... Just for eye candy...

Posted by SCORPIO_CASSADINE

@ssejllenrad said:

Not a suggestion... Just for eye candy...

Yeah, but it also goes to show how great the Wonder Woman costume is. :)

Posted by x_29

@Blackmoonrose13 said:

@x_29: Xena isn't of the DC universe and it wouldn't make any since

I was joking.

Posted by Bad_People

I think when considering what she should wear we should look at Themyscira. True it's based on Greek culture but it's still around, it has had some limited contact with the outside world. It is run by people who are physically, mentally, and emotionally different from the ancient Greek people; therefore there would naturally be some deviations from the traditional as time progressed,

The land itself and the materials available will also be different. consider what the technological level is vs. the mood toward modern technology and Diana's personal feelings. There are many many variables and just as many opportunities for experimentation.

Posted by ltbrd

First, I don't think Wonder Woman should get a tv show. I'm sorry, but I think there are simply some characters that don't work for the small screen. Yes, we got a Superman show.......but we also got 10 years of whining, self-doubt, self-loathing, no flying, and no suit. Smallville started out great and truly defined the idea of Superman without a costume. It just kept going with that idea for two long. The same thing, I fear, would happen with Wonder Woman. First, I haven't read anything that doesn't make the new show sound like its trying to copy the Smallville model. That would be a huge mistake as it takes away from the great mythology present in her character and the magical aspect that defines her in DC's Trinity. Second, the production value to do a true Wonder Woman show justice would be ridiculous when you consider all the effects that would need to take place. You couldn't cheapen the experience by doing what previous shows, like Charmed, did by making all the magical creatures and monsters look human simply so the make-up and effects budget was under control because that would take away from the experience of a true Wonder Woman show. Green Arrow is working perfectly (not saying the show is perfect just the concept) because he's the type of character that can thrive on tv. Wonder Woman is not.

In the end DC should focus their Wonder Woman effects solely on movies and leave tv to cover less known and less money intense characters. Though I don't think the Marvel film sequence should be followed, it would be nice if a Wonder Woman movie could come out before Justice League. That way modern audiences can be familiar with her character and understand why, even before Justice League, she's so important and considered part of the Trinity. Going with just films also ensures her character is done the justice it deserves rather than trying to either a) give her something budget friendly for tv or b) force her to share the origin/first appearance spotlight with other characters in the same film.

As for her look......saw this earlier in the thread and though I don't agree with Wonder Woman's look in this, I do think Donna Troy's would be the better way to go. Though the shoulder pauldrons are not a part of WW's original costume, it makes sense that a warrior would have them and the overall look is for more in keeping with that of ancient greek warriors than the one shown for Diana in this picture.

Posted by AlKusanagi

You know, with a couple more years and about 20 pounds of muscle on her, Victoria Justice would make a pretty good Wonder Woman.

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