Vote For The New Marvel Universe Figure

I have several from this line of figures and I have to say-- they're fairly disappointing. The detail isn't nearly what it should be for what they charge, mostly due to scale. I wish they'd release more Diamond Select. They're great display pieces and for the price of two of the little guys that often have very awkward articulation and messy paint jobs, relatively worth it.

NORMON!!!!!!!!

voted for Karla.

I'm going to sound fanboy rantish, I don't care! This line should have never killed Marvel Legends. It's been said a million times, but it's such a downgrade from Legends. In fact, I just miss Toybiz on the line to begin with. They were infinitely better in all aspects: character choices, costume choices, lower price, more articulation, better scale, and more accessories. I mean, one of these nearly costs the same as an old Toybiz Legend that’s twice the size, twice as details, and includes twice the amount you’re getting here! These are such rip-offs. Not a single one of these character choices screams “I have to have!” and I hate Hasbro’s focus on modern outfits.   

I would want Stilt-Man though…    but as a Marvel Legend! I don't want to get suckered into buying lower-quality smaller versions of characters I already have as Legends. I sound so miserable, but so many of us collectors hate this line. Getting much needed characters like (comic) Ultron, Enchantress, the Wrecking Crew, and 90's Jean Grey  as Universe figures and not Legends is a kick in the face.
 
Oh! The 00's X-Men Classics (ML spin-off line) Archangel was released, I own it.

" @MysterioMaximus:  this line didnt kill Legends. the sculptures that made Legends great in the first place wouldnt jump ship when they changed companies. then  theyre new sculptures quit as well. the Toy Biz sculpture Dig still does them, theyve just changed to the Marvel Select line, which alots him more time and resources to do the figures. Legends werent canned in favor of, they already had sunk and  this Universe line was the saving grace. "

Yaaaah...no! Hasbro sunk Legends with noticeably poor quality figures, at least in comparison to Toybiz’s prior releases, and in turn instead of killing off their newly acquired Marvel license, they decided instead to opt to create and focus on this new line. Universe absolutely had a part to play in the destruction of Marvel Legends. Instead of focusing on re-building and improving their Legends, something that really shouldn't have changed from the Toybiz formula to begin with, they decided "Oh *(&% it, we'll just make another line". They forced something into the faces of Legends collectors, something we’d been dreading for quite some time. And while it’s true that Legends isn’t entirely dead, considering this year we’re supposed to get…what? Six figures, three two-packs, I’d say that’s life-support.     
 
As for Selects, they're neither a spin-off of the Legends line, nor Hasbro, but it's own line so...what do they have anything to do with much of anything here? Besides, they're more McFarlane style figures, not remotely like even Hasbro's Legends. They're more statues.

Despite Bendis' slaughtering of Karla, she gets my vote.

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" @MysterioMaximus:  this line didnt kill Legends. the sculptures that made Legends great in the first place wouldnt jump ship when they changed companies. then  theyre new sculptures quit as well. the Toy Biz sculpture Dig still does them, theyve just changed to the Marvel Select line, which alots him more time and resources to do the figures. Legends werent canned in favor of, they already had sunk and  this Universe line was the saving grace. "

Yaaaah...no! Hasbro sunk Legends with noticeably poor quality figures, at least in comparison to Toybiz’s prior releases, and in turn instead of killing off their newly acquired Marvel license,

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 and in turn instead of killing off their newly acquired Marvel license, they decided instead to opt to create and focus on this new line. 

Universe absolutely had a part to play in the destruction of Marvel Legends. 

 They forced something into the faces of Legends collectors, something we’d been dreading for quite some time. And while it’s true that Legends isn’t entirely dead, considering this year we’re supposed to get…what? Six figures, three two-packs, I’d say that’s life-support.    

 As for Selects, they're neither a spin-off of the Legends line, nor Hasbro, but it's own line so...what do they have anything to do with much of anything here? Besides, they're more McFarlane style figures, not remotely like even Hasbro's Legends. They're more statues

" @MysterioMaximus said:

" @CATMANEXE said:

" @MysterioMaximus:  this line didnt kill Legends. the sculptures that made Legends great in the first place wouldnt jump ship when they changed companies. then  theyre new sculptures quit as well. the Toy Biz sculpture Dig still does them, theyve just changed to the Marvel Select line, which alots him more time and resources to do the figures. Legends werent canned in favor of, they already had sunk and  this Universe line was the saving grace. "

Yaaaah...no! Hasbro sunk Legends with noticeably poor quality figures, at least in comparison to Toybiz’s prior releases, and in turn instead of killing off their newly acquired Marvel license,

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how is that no. you just repeated what i just said. Hasbro lost quality due to the fact that they lost quality sculptures. 
 

 and in turn instead of killing off their newly acquired Marvel license, they decided instead to opt to create and focus on this new line. 

no, not actually. they had several lines of Marvel Legends under Hasbro before they switched over.
they switched over because they werent selling. they were cluttering clearance aisles and being repacked by toy stores and sent back to the company for credit. believe it or not despite your own love for the Toy Biz ones they also crashed and burned. the fact was they were geared towards collectors, and that market doesnt hold water to young kids. the MU line was more appropriate for kids however, as well allows them to do playsets and vehicles now. that and theyre compatible with other figures like Star Wars and GIJOE.
 

Universe absolutely had a part to play in the destruction of Marvel Legends. 

 
Universe came after Legends already sunk, that was kind of the point. im saying this as fact. i 
managed a Toys R Us at the time and dealt with it first hand. i taped up, boxed and shipped those full sized Legends figures back personally.
 

 They forced something into the faces of Legends collectors, something we’d been dreading for quite some time. And while it’s true that Legends isn’t entirely dead, considering this year we’re supposed to get…what? Six figures, three two-packs, I’d say that’s life-support.    

 
thats because again the collectors cant sustain a toy companies needed profits. kids do. collectors
are over-ruled. compound this with the fact that Disney upon taking over considered pulling the license from Hasbro in favor of the company they own, Mattel. this put Hasbro in a position where they really have to look at quantity, something that was always present though, and make certain numbers every year. not easy in a market that only turns a real profit during the holiday season, and in a world where Toys R Us is going bankrupt. and the majority of collectors outside of yourself actually like the universe figures, check this site even, and my Image Galeries. your speaking for a mass that doesnt actually agree with you.
 

 As for Selects, they're neither a spin-off of the Legends line, nor Hasbro, but it's own line so...what do they have anything to do with much of anything here? Besides, they're more McFarlane style figures, not remotely like even Hasbro's Legends. They're more statues

having your own opinion is one thing and fine by me, but your just making things up again in this case just to argue. Select is a direct continuation of the Toy Biz Legends line, sculpted by Dig, the exact same sculpture that did those. it was moved to the collectors market specifically becuase it couldnt meet the units required to sustain a kids toyline, and renamed so as to avoid any difficulty with Toy Biz. "

Nice novel! Yawn!   

I'm stating no in reference to the Universe line not effecting the death of the Legends line.  I don't think anyone would argue that Hasbro dropped the ball as compared to Toybiz offerings.  

You're right, Universe is geared toward children...and it shows. These sculpts are often subpar, there's a heavy focus on modern costumes and characters, include little to no accessories, and they're overpriced! Hence why many collectors don't care much for this line! It's been controversial with the comic collector community from the get go considering few wanted Legends to fall to the wayside. If you like this line, more power to you, but that doesn’t change the fact that many (if not the majority of) other collectors don’t. I can point you to three or four Marvel collectors forums that are in constant bashing Universe mode, if you like, just to prove that I don’t “speak for a mass that doesn’t agree with me”.  

Want to talk about facts? I’ll show you them. Fact: Three Waves of Marvel Legends, one wave of three two-packs, SDCC KaZar and Shanna exclusive, and a few other exclusives were released in 2008. One wave on Marvel Legends and one series of three two-packs was released in 2009. Marvel Universe Series 1 was officially release in March of 2009 and in conception stages in mid to late 2008. Now read that slowly and look for a pattern. If “Marvel Legends was already sunk by the time Universe was released,” …well…what do you call all these Legends figures then? And notice the significant drop in production of Legends once Universe was in concept, then an even larger drop in production once Universe was in circulation. Now I don’t doubt that the late Legends series sales were poor, but there’s a difference between lousy sales and a dead line. Legends could have been salvaged. Arguably the only reason it began to crash was because, for some bizarre reason, Hasbro decided to tamper with a winning figure formula. To deny that Universe had something to do with the demise of Marvel Legend is…well…to be in denial. Hasbro chose to let the Legends line die in favor of pushing out this new line.   

As for Marvel Select, what exactly am I lying about? Firstly the Select line has ALWAYS been aimed at nothing but collectors. Secondly, because Select now has sculptors that prior worked on Legends for Toybiz DOESN'T make Select and Legends the same line, hence different names to begin with. That's like saying Schindlers List must be in the same universe as Indiana Jones because Spielburg worked on them both. Um...no! Select  was a very complementary line with Legends, but they weren't actually of the same.

I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, you're fanboyishly defending plastic toys. And congrats on working at Toys R Us, mommy must be proud.

" @MysterioMaximus:  whats your point again? you liked Marve Legends more. thats understood. i did too. but bashing Marvel Universe and making false claims that it destroyed a toyline you didnt when in fact that one wasnt selling is ridiculous. Legends werent selling, yes even the ones your bringing to light, especially that Kazar pack. they made it. thats true. but no one bought them. what do i call them? sculpted and made, but released late and they wanted to try and make their cash back, which is exactly what the case was with those figures. they ended up shipped back and in clearance aisles. in fact why bash me for it as well? pointing out 4 people that dont like the Universe line, especially when you say  theyre collectors doesnt prove anything. 4 people? the fact is Universe figures are selling. units have to be moved or there is no toy line. what were you cobbling up about the Seelct line. when you said it wasnt related to the Legends line thats what. it was a direct continuation of the line, geared specifically towards availablity for collectors, like yourself, who were dissapointed about the new direction of the figures, but done in a relevant quantiy so as not to have tons of overstock. and again your just arguing to argue, but your dead wrong in this case and making things up and grasping at straws. lol, your getting worse than me. why perpetuate it? "

You’re hopeless! Your inability to grasp proper grammar and capitalization aside, the blatant illiteracy is…staggering. You might want to attempt to read my post before you talk. There’s a novel idea! I’ve addressed everything your latest broken record asked.    

" @MysterioMaximus:  third time, point? your wrong. you made it up. you were proven as much. you addressed anything with stuff you made up. if you chose to be upset about that thats kind of on you. "

If it makes you feel better to think I've made things up, well then congrats, your ego isn't brused.  
 
http://www.thefwoosh.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=96     
http://forums.marvelousnews.com/

http://forums.toynewsi.com/index.php?showforum=5    

http://comicfigs.net/Line/MarvelLegends.htm     
 
Please! Feel free, read around! Read FACTS! Because you don't agree, doesn't destroy its validity. Sure you'll see adult folks that like Universe, I don't hate all Universe either, but you'll also see...I'm not speaking for myself. Not even close! Also check the dates on ML's and Universe figures. More so, what's your point? And were is this proof you're claiming to have? I've now backed my argument, have you?

Armor, Cable, Ares, Hope, senile future Doom, Nova prime, Star-Lord, Groot, Captain America (bucky)

what about thanos

an x-force archangel would be bad-a$$. he got my vote