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Venom and Sinister Six Movies Announced

Movie Spider-Man's life is about to get way more difficult. Good thing he has great power, right?

Sony's execs previously hinted they want to create spinoff films and today, they made it official: they're moving forward with at least two spinoff projects. The first has been teased a gazillion times now: the Sinister Six. Not only have they dropped the name before (one of Marc Webb's photos had it plastered on a wall), but they've been building Peter's rogue gallery and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is adding plenty of new characters. If you have a keen eye, then you know Venom also exists in this universe (Harry's display in the trailer said "Venom storage").

Drew Goddard, Alex Kurtzman, Robert Orci, Jeff Pinker, and Ed Solomon will "collaborate on overseeing the developing story over several films." They'll work with producers Matt Tolmach and Avi Arad and director Marc Webb. Kurtzman, Solomon and Orci are tasked with writing Venom's movie and Kurtzman will direct. Meanwhile, Goddard is confirmed to write the Sinister Six movie and maybe direct. The press release says the five writers, two producers and Webb have created a "franchise brain trust" to make sure the universe keeps a continuous tone as it expands.

Based on what we've seen in the cinematic universe so far, who would you want on the Sinister Six's roster and why? Seeing as Venom is at Oscorp, it could be inspired by the Ultimate version of the symbiote. Are you excited or what, Viners?

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Edited by Cavemold

i saw a whole document about this announcement yesterday . Flash as venom or is flash going be the punk bully still. i hope he's actually venom

Edited by StMichalofWilson

As Mr. Spock would say: Fascinating

Edited by ArturoCalaKayVee

This is where I'm torn. I've been vocal over how I thought ASM had decent writing and a good story but absolutely hate some of their (very important) casting. Excited for these character movies as I love Venom (both regular and Agent) as well as Sinister Six but I just don't have much faith in Sony after ASM.

Eh, what the hell…

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOO VENOM AND SINISTER SIX MOVIES!!! YES!!!!

Posted by Omega Ray Jay

Hmm, I'll be interested to see how they go about the Sinister Six movie.

Posted by AllStarSuperman

@jonny_anonymous said:

@captain13: girls don't just watch films for good looking actors you know

Yes, girls love comic book villains they have never heard of played by actors who they probably don't recognize. So let's throw a bunch of money at this, potentially hurting the industry.

And I'm not just talking about girls. Why was Shailene Woodly cut from ASM2 again? Whining fanboys who didn't think she was pretty enough.

Throw out whatever counter argument you want. I'm going to laugh when a $160 million - $200 million Sinister Six bombs on opening weekend.

that's sad

Posted by TheManInTheShoe

While I won't watch ASM 2 I will definitely watch Sinister Six.

Posted by danaandra

Seeing what they've done to the Green Goblin and Electro in the new movie, there's no reason to be excited for a Sinister Six movie. Green Goblin and Electro look totally different, and while the original costumes from the comics probably look hokey to the majority of mainstream movie goers, that's what they look like to any of us who have been reading the comics for years. Why bother using these characters if they're going to change them so drastically?

Posted by batshrine

I won't lie, the only other character I can imagine having a franchise is Batman, so I am kind of jealous that Spiderman gets one but not Batman.

Posted by DaltonMunnal

Seeing what they've done to the Green Goblin and Electro in the new movie, there's no reason to be excited for a Sinister Six movie. Green Goblin and Electro look totally different, and while the original costumes from the comics probably look hokey to the majority of mainstream movie goers, that's what they look like to any of us who have been reading the comics for years. Why bother using these characters if they're going to change them so drastically?

Because what they look like is the least important thing that defines a character. Who says they were changed drastically? All we know is that they originate from OsCorp. This is obviously accurate for Goblin, and Electro's origin frankly doesn't matter, so what exactly do we know about them that changes them drastically?

Edited by TazzMission

sinister 6 will be interesting but my concern with venom as a solo movie is how can it work with no hero?

at least with sinister 6 that can manage to build a story but venom i have no idea how that can work

Posted by TheCheeseStabber

Sinister Six Film Better be about The Superior Foes!

And Venom about Flash >:3

Posted by TazzMission

the sinister 6 should be a heist movie now that i think of it. that can also introduce the spider slayer program

Posted by butters911

@jonny_anonymous said:

@captain13: girls don't just watch films for good looking actors you know

Yes, girls love comic book villains they have never heard of played by actors who they probably don't recognize. So let's throw a bunch of money at this, potentially hurting the industry.

And I'm not just talking about girls. Why was Shailene Woodly cut from ASM2 again? Whining fanboys who didn't think she was pretty enough.

Throw out whatever counter argument you want. I'm going to laugh when a $160 million - $200 million Sinister Six bombs on opening weekend.

Yeah no girl has ever heard of Jamie Foxx or Paul Giamoti. Girls only watch movies with a shirtless Brad Pitt and with princesses. And your going to laugh if a movie bombs? You must have a sad life.

Posted by TazzMission

I don't understand. How is Sinister Six a spin-off? If they aren't fighting Spidey, which would make this simply another Amazing Spidey movie, and not a spin-off, then what the hell is happening here? Venom, I could see them doing Agent Venom as a spin-off, but they kind just spoiled Venom being in ASM3 (especially since we now know that neither ASM2 or 3 is actually a Sinister Six movie) by telling us this.

Damn, Sony, I would like a FEW secrets to be kept.

maybe ams 3 and 4 will bring in morbious, mysterio , tombstone, hydro, kraven?

Posted by Smoker_Harrow

Hopefully they cast someone who can play a good venom. Topher Graces Venom was terrible. The whole movie turn into battle of the emos.

Posted by novi_homines

Supervillain movie? HOLY SHIT!! This is SOOO AWESOME!!!!

Posted by Lvenger

This is novel but very risky. Branching out a Spider-Man universe with villain films is definitely a risk. Venom might be able to make back its costs but the same can't be said for lesser known villains. Furthermore, overcrowding ASM 2 with villains for these films could make it as flawed as Iron Man 2 was.

Edited by danaandra

@daltonmunnal: Take the radical re-design of The Creeper, example. Even if he was still Jack Ryder and worked for WHAM-TV, the new costume is simply horrible and makes it impossible for me to even TRY reading anything with him in it. The costume may not be the defining factor of a character, but in a visual medium like comics, there's a reason why one costume works better than another.

Posted by ThomasElliot

"Drew Goddard, Alex Kurtzman, Robert Orci"

Oh what? Those names just totally changed my opinion about everything Spider-man.

I had no idea Kurtzman and Orci were the screenwriters on Spider-Man 2.

I mean, not everything they do is gold, but their names are trustworthy enough to give Spider-man films a more serious look. Hmmm.....

Posted by Novemberx2

Remember a Venom movie was announced in 2007

Remember a Magento movie was announced in 2006

Remember a Silver Surfer Movie was announced in 2007

These announcements are made to generate market hype and test the water, take them with a pinch of salt, most of them are nonsense

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Remember a Venom movie was announced in 2007

Remember a Magento movie was announced in 2006

Remember a Silver Surfer Movie was announced in 2007

These announcements are made to generate market hype and test the water, take them with a pinch of salt, most of them are nonsense

None of them was officially announced

Posted by MrMazz

@thomaselliot: how does the names Ortiz and Kurtzman give you hope for a "serious" tone of Spider-man? They watch terrible blockbuster fluff centered around setpieces and workbackwards from there not coming at it from character to setpiece, so ya know we care about what's going on. They do't do serious they do pretintious blockbuster camp.

Drew Goddard gives me hope for Sinister Six though.

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Posted by nappystr8

Sony is really starting to worry me. Not only does a solo movie starring the Sinister Six make no sense (unless they go the superior foes route), but the idea that they are adding in non-plot important cameos of villains into the main Spider-Man movies just to advertise this offshoot really bothers me. Venom makes more sense in a solo film I guess, if they do the Flash Thompson version. But the bottom line here for me is, I really don't know if the Spider-Man universe is deep enough to justify a larger universe in of itself in the same way Avengers or the X-Men can.

I was disappointed with the trailer to Amazing 2, but I was very much still keeping an open mind. This peek into the heads of the people in charge has made me lose a lot of that tentative faith. I think I just officially jumped into the camp waiting on the rights to return to Marvel Studios.

Posted by OreoAssassin

Hope they dont f**k up Venom. Take the safe route and do Agent Venom. Eddie could barely hold his own series. Flash has been with us for two years and has been on multiple teams, story arcs, longest running series. Better origin story aswell.

Posted by Fallschirmjager

@jonny_anonymous said:

@captain13: girls don't just watch films for good looking actors you know

Yes, girls love comic book villains they have never heard of played by actors who they probably don't recognize. So let's throw a bunch of money at this, potentially hurting the industry.

And I'm not just talking about girls. Why was Shailene Woodly cut from ASM2 again? Whining fanboys who didn't think she was pretty enough.

Throw out whatever counter argument you want. I'm going to laugh when a $160 million - $200 million Sinister Six bombs on opening weekend.

Had nothing to do with that actually. Rumor is Gwen is going to die (she is wearing her famous green+purple outfit). They pushed Woodly out of the film because they didn't want to make light of that moment by having Peter go on another date with a chick so soon. Her scenes in the film was pretty much just that anyway.

Posted by kriminal

can I get Felicia hardy in a movie

Edited by RulerOfThisUniverse

Venom is in TASM2, too? It's getting WAY too crowded.

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Edited by dreamfall31

Is Oscorp really going to be the origin of ALL Spidey's villians in this movie series?

Posted by DatHomieSilverSurfer

Seeing what they've done to the Green Goblin and Electro in the new movie, there's no reason to be excited for a Sinister Six movie. Green Goblin and Electro look totally different, and while the original costumes from the comics probably look hokey to the majority of mainstream movie goers, that's what they look like to any of us who have been reading the comics for years. Why bother using these characters if they're going to change them so drastically?

And in defense of the new costumes in AS2, the film universe draws about as much from the Ultimate Universe as it is to the 616. Actually, this Electro looks pretty spot on the the Electro from USMs first Kingpin arc. And even though I love electros goofy, OG lightning bolt mask, there is no way that was going to end up in a film. He doesn't even wear the mask in the mainstream universe anymore. And we still don't know if Green Goblin is going to get a mask yet. And like another poster said, it's not just their costumes that make the characters.

Posted by Protoflash

I think the only way they could make a good venom movie would be if either A: It would be about agent venom, which is highly unlikely as he is currently more popular as a villain, or B: Spider-Man was in it and was about the 40% focus of the movie. Otherwise I'd say this is relatively good news, but it seems to me that they're writing a whole bunch of checks that they have currently have no idea how to cash, seeing as the amazing spider-man 2 trailer looked very generic and overall, not very good if you ask me. I don't care if they're setting the characters up for their own movies, overstuffed is overstuffed, and a bad movie is a bad movie.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

Is Oscorp really going to be the origin of ALL Spidey's villians in this movie series?

He is in the comic as well

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@cheesesticks said:

@mr_athrilla: Do you wanna talk about the Green Lantern movie?

not really. The fans did right by Green Lantern. They felt that It was an awful movie with a weak interpretation of Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps. Because they voiced their opinions, we never got a sequel. The X-men trilogy has the same problems as the GL.(terrible incarnations of their comic book counterparts (except for Magneto, Proff X and Wolverine)) but for some reason it's regarded as a masterpiece.

Personally I think If GL was released 10 years ago, before or along side the first X-men movie it wouldn't have nearly as much haters. Because back then they were no other superhero movies to compare it to.

Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse

@jonny_anonymous: it says right there in the article:

"If you have a keen eye, then you know Venom also exists in this universe (Harry's display in the trailer said "Venom storage")."

Posted by TazzMission

i just thought of something. what if the venom movie is agent venom? after all he was just included in the guardians of the galaxy and they have a movie for them next year

Posted by LyraFay

So wait people are complaining that ASM2 will have too many characters just like Superman vs Batman yet The Avengers: Age of Ultron has got more characters than both of those? What an illogical world we live in.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

@jonny_anonymous: it says right there in the article:

"If you have a keen eye, then you know Venom also exists in this universe (Harry's display in the trailer said "Venom storage")."

Yea and it also has the Vultures wings and Doc Ocks arms, dosn't mean there actually in the film tho.

Edited by fACEmelter88

Pretty much the best part of this new Amazing Spider-Man franchise is Andrew Garfield so not sure if not including him is smart. Would the Sinister 6 movie have them targeting Spider-Man or what? Really having trouble seeing how a movie based on the Sinister 6 would work. Venom...great idea but how to make it work, introduce in this new series of Spidey movies, make a Spider-Man rip-off franchise so no big names need paid I just love comic book movies and have a feeling they've bitten off more than they can chew and they haven't even gotten to the dinner table.

Edited by TazzMission

@facemelter88 said:

Pretty much the best part of this new Amazing Spider-Man franchise is Andrew Garfield so not sure if not including him is smart. Would the Sinister 6 movie have them targeting Spider-Man or what? Really having trouble seeing how a movie based on the Sinister 6 would work. Venom...great idea but how to make it work, introduce in this new series of Spidey movies, make a Spider-Man rip-off franchise so no big names need paid I just love comic book movies and have a feeling they've bitten off more than they can chew and they haven't even gotten to the dinner table.

garfield is only contracted for ams 1 - 3. he gave an interview saying he wasnt signed for 4

Posted by GraniteSoldier

Considering Flash Thompson's portrayals in ASM 1, I see an Agent Venom movie in the future.

I endorse this idea.

Posted by Geonettazombie
Edited by MadeinBangladesh

Damn Marvel, Sony, and Fox are bringin' it

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Posted by Jimmie_Hudson_

i can't wait for the venom movie. i dont care if it's brock or thompson.

Edited by TheMantisShrimp

I would love an agent venom movie but I would think they would have to wait a while or age Flash so that he has graduated High School and moved onto the military. Personally, I think Flash should have at least a few years of military experience. I doubt Agent Venom will happen before Eddie Brock Venom, but I would not be surprised if it does.

Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse

@jonny_anonymous: If they hint at them that much in the first trailer, they're probably going to have some kind of role. Rhino, Electro, and Green Goblin are already more than enough for a sequel, but if Doc Ock, Vulture, and Venom are added, it's going to be more disorienting than Spider-Man 3.

Posted by Stefano
@sammo21 said:

They are banking a lot of value on a film that severely underperformed at the box office. Sony is going to end up running spider-man into the ground if they are not careful.

Marvel did the same with the first Iron Man movie and WB/DC is also banked a lot of vale on Man of Steel. Both of these movies grossed less at the world wide box office then The Amazing Spider-man.

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