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Updates on DC's Cinematic Future

Holy news, Batman! There's new info on everything from casting rumors to blurbs on the Justice League.

Jeez, I'm on vacation for three days and apparently I miss out on a huge chunk of fairly exciting news... anyway, better late than never, right? There's been so much unofficial banter about the DC films, so it's nice to see Jeff Robinov, the President of Warner Bros. Pictures Group, finally chat about the subject.

For months, we've wondered if Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy would be a part of the DC's cinematic future. Well, boys and girls, it looks like it isn't. Speaking to EW, Robinov said, “I think you’ll see that, going forward, anything can live in this world.” He then added, “[Nolan’s] Batman was deliberately and smartly positioned as a stand-alone. The world they lived in was very isolated without any knowledge of any other superheroes. What Zack and Chris have done with this film is allow you to really introduce other characters into the same world.”

To me, this is fantastic news. Sure, Nolan's films are great and all (okay, maybe I'm not the biggest fan of Rises), but to see that franchise's cast change to a more comic booky tone (super powers and all) would definitely be a bit jarring. Besides, I think this allows for a more "unrealistic" take on Batman and will (hopefully) provide a fresh take on the character. Now, just because they're rebooting him doesn't mean we need to see an origin story all over again. Hopefully they'll take a note from The Incredible Hulk or Punisher: War Zone and wrap up the origin story everyone already knows during the opening credits. This is of course assuming WB does indeed stand behind these franchises, and seeing how much money Batman generates, it's tough to believe they wouldn't.

Additionally, the WB exec says Man of Steel is just the beginning of what's to come from the DC movieverse. “It’s setting the tone for what the movies are going to be like going forward. In that, it’s definitely a first step." Now, does this mean there will be any kind of cameo or easter egg for the Justice League in the film? Only time will tell for that one, but it's good to see some reassurance instead of "we'll wait to see if Man of Steel does well before deciding to move forward!" There's also a big change to the new Superman story -- kryptonite isn't in it. Director Zack Snyder broke the news in an interview and it looks like Kal-El's powers are possibly something he had from birth -- making him unique even on his home planet.

Meanwhile in the world of casting news, it looks like the star of Sons of Anarchy may be able to outrace a motorcycle while on foot. This is still super early and absolutely not confirmation of any kind, but Chud is claiming actor Charlie Hunnam (Sons of Anarchy, Pacific Rim) could possibly be the man WB wants as the Flash. According to them, their source says the actor is being used in concept art of the character. Naturally, this isn't flat out saying he is the person WB wants, but it looks like it's a possibility.

Viners, how are you feeling about DC's cinematic future? Do you have faith in WB and think they'll create something that can contend with The Avengers or do you have big concerns? Go ahead and give the comments section a piece of your mind.

Source: EW, Chud, Yahoo! Movies

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Posted by CrashBang

I love Dc comics, but in my opinion Marel will always have better movies.

I agree. After the abomination that was the Green Lantern movie and how Marvel have been knocking them out of the park since Iron Man and the fact that they got Joss Whedon (my god) on board, there's no way DC can compare at this point.

It's a real shame because, where comics are concerned, I've always been more of a DC fan than a Marvel fan but Marvel know how to do movies.

Edited by Z3RO180

@smart_dork_dude nope he does fly in the movie I can't remember what trailer it is but he breaks the sound barrier and the goes fast so he is flying in the movie

Posted by dondave

Kryptonite would be a pointless feature to have

Edited by lilben42

I love when people put all the bad movies WB has done. I mean really those were in the past and I'm sure they have learned from their mistakes. I'm actually glad Green Lantern failed because I feel like that was a wake up call for them and don't think they will risk anything like that ever again.

Posted by lilben42

@iaconpoint: TBH Superman is still years above Iron Man in popularity but you shouldn't compare Iron Man with someone who hasn't had a movie in 7 years. You should probably compare Batman and Iron Man.

Posted by ComicKing7

@thejester: Well DC always managed to get the best animated movies

Posted by The Mighty Monarch

@thejester: Live action, maybe. DC will forever and always have far better animated movies.

Posted by blkson

I love DC, but Marvel clearly knows how to better market their characters. Who'd have though Iron Man would rival Superman in terms of popularity 6 years ago?

nobody! it sounds weird just reading that lmao

Posted by Akindoodle

@fartvader: Yeah, well Barry's not the youngest anymore. It's a tie between Diana and Victor. It's weird to think that the Flash is older than Aquaman and WW, previously two of the League's oldest and most mature, right?

Posted by ravisher

" Kal-El's powers are possibly something he had from birth -- making him unique even on his home planet."

dont mess with it if its not broken hollywood

Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

Yawn. Wake me up when there is some worthy news.

Posted by mattwing87

DC is trying to rush their movies. Only good DC movies are the first 2 Superman movies with Christopher Reeves and The Dark Knight (Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises were ok but not as good as most Marvel movies). I don't know what Marvel does but they do it right!

Edited by doordoor123

Hunnam would be a better Green Arrow.

I also don't really like the idea of changing his origin too much. Powers from birth? That is taking away a HUGE element of Superman -- the SUN.

Posted by Zeeguy91

@lilben42 said:

I love when people put all the bad movies WB has done. I mean really those were in the past and I'm sure they have learned from their mistakes. I'm actually glad Green Lantern failed because I feel like that was a wake up call for them and don't think they will risk anything like that ever again.

Are you saying they shouldn't invest in a good Green Lantern movie?

Edited by SmashBrawler

@melodet said:

Wait, has it been confirmed that he has his powers on his planet? I thought all we knew was that he was somehow unique on his own planet. I assumed that he would be a child born out of love on a planet where children are scientifically created.

I was under the same impression.

Posted by stefan_wizel

@thejester: You are joking right, DC have better movies, Marvel just have more movies, from Marvel studios directly we have just 2 great movies, 7 good movie, 4 acceptable movies and 13 bad movies since 1998 (2 great, 1 good, 1 acceptable 2 bad directly fomr Marvel), DC have 6 great movies, 1 acceptable movie and 4 bad movies since 1989, so DC have 6 good movies for 11 and while Marvel just 9 good from 23 (3 Marvel) so DC have better porcentage of good movies agianst Marvel, of course it is my point of view, if you believe thet Thor and Captian America were at least decent movies you could complain but fomr me they were bad, Captain America the worst, Loki saved Thor a bit from being terrible.

Posted by spinningbirdcake

I'm excited for this movie and movies to come sure. I do, however, think it's somewhat telling that DC is having troubles getting anything besides Batman and Superman together while Marvel is getting ready to sell us a movie with a green lady, a talking raccoon, and a living, moving, badoon punching tree without even batting an eyelash.

Edited by monkeyonurback_

a lot of if not all faith in this movie / "universe" just dropped....

superman's now a mutant from krypton?

and they really couldn't find an intelligent way of fitting in all the work done on the batman movies without rebooting the series (guaranteed they WILL reboot the series)

they are so far behind marvel they will never make up for what they've lost so everything (guaranteed) will have a painfully rushed look about it (marvel can take their time, they're already 6 steps ahead of DC and soon to be 7 or from another angle, a whole 5 years ahead of them)

DC will crash and burn because of how bad they've handled everything over the years. Green Lantern was an insult to everybody who ever bought a comicbook. Come to think of it, i don't think anyone who even worked on that movie has even read a green lantern comic.

Honestly, and upsettingly, all of this news is bad in my opinion. i have been more excited for man of steel but after reading this article, pfft... useless... superman needs a weakness. everybody has a weakness. all we're ever going to see is lois in danger because that's the only other way to hurt superman.

maybe we pool our power, we can all just fly around the world fast enough to kickstart the justice league easter eggs in 2004's batman begins?

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@monkeyonurback_ said:

Honestly, and upsettingly, all of this news is bad in my opinion. i have been more excited for man of steel but after reading this article, pfft... useless... superman needs a weakness. everybody has a weakness. all we're ever going to see is lois in danger because that's the only other way to hurt superman.

Oh yeah, because superman totally needs kryptonite to get hurt, he has no other weaknesses

I mean, zod managing to actually hurt superman?

Pfft, absurd. Thats never gonna happen...

Posted by Mr_Colossus

@akindoodle: I agree with you, Hunnam does look like a better fit for Aquaman.

When his name was mentioned in an earlier article as a possible casting option for a member of the Justice League movie my first choice would have been Aquaman. I really like him as an actor and think he could pull off the role and maybe make a great cinematic adaptation of Aquaman.

Edited by HeraldofGanthet

@night_thrasher: It's obvious that Marvel had a plan for Avengers and executed that plan marvelously, but DC needs to be different or they'll be the GoBots to Marvel's Transformers.

LOL, i'd forgotten about the Go-Bots:)

Posted by monkeyonurback_

@stormbox:

thank you for pointing that out. i never would have realised if you hadn't said it actually!

like, how can zod hurt him? i mean why would zod be able to even touch him if even on krypton he would have had superpowers? that means zod is just a regular dude on earth....unless he got superpowers and superman just had them anyways but wouldn't that just mean that superman's powers would be gone when he'd come to earth? if it works backwards anyways. maybe zod will turn out to be his dad. that would be a plot twist!

plus zod is not a weakness. he's a guy who can hurt him. he doesn't get weak just because zod is around. superman needs to have something that can hurt him or let him be hurt. hopefully it will be brought in in the second movie...

Edited by RussT

The second you said Charlie Hunnam as the Flash, I immediately thought: no way, he has to play John Constantine. Glad I read the article source. Which Flash would he fit as? I just can't see it. I could see him as Green Arrow or Arsenal too, but I think that's just a bias from seeing him on SoA.

Posted by knightofthechronicle

Not sure how I feel about Superman always having his powers, but you know I still think that the movie will be great. And also, thank the Lord, the Nolan trilogy won't be apart of the movieverse! I'm sorry, but they really needed to be a stand alone franchise.

Posted by BlueLantern1995

No Kryptonite! YAY!!!! Pretty big rumors on Flash? YAHOO!!!

Posted by lilben42

@zeeguy91: No I was saying they will probably check their movies more and take less risks.

Posted by Stormbox

@monkeyonurback_: First of all, the born with powers thing is just a rumor. Some people here have read very different stuff in other sites

Second, superman is supposed to take huge beating from the kryptonians, hell theres even a short scene in the second trailer where he falls to his knees and seems to be puking frickin blood

And third, what? Superman does not need kryptonite. Superman can be hurt by very strong characters (ZOD, doomsday, mongul, darkseid, etc) or hurt by very powerful weapons and hes also vulnerable to magic. If you think kryptonite is his only weakness you clearly know nothing about him

Posted by Awesomecris88

You need to take a step back.... EVERY Marvel studios movie has bees excellent and Avengers is the best super hero movie anyone is gonna see until Avengers 2 comes out. That being said, even with these changes to superman this movie should still be good..... I hope

Edited by pkebker

This is how I'd want my DC Movieverse...

Phase 1

2013 - Man of Steel (With a tease about Wonder Woman)

2014 - Wonder Woman

2015 - Flash and Green Lantern

2016 - Batman and Justice League

Phase 2

2017 - Man of Steel 2

and so on...

Posted by monkeyonurback_

@stormbox: not as much a rumor anymore is it tho....

inferiority complexes are really annoying on geek sites / the internet in general but yea i do know a lot about superman. whatever... there's only so many times you can watch him fight darkseid or some super powerful being. same for iron man...iron man 2 had basically the same villain (well, a bunch of robots as opposed to one mega robot). the third one they started needing to be creative. but say that is what they do. he fights zod in this one and say, for arguments sake, brainiac in the next one. what about the third? darkseid? if he can keep fighting these absolute earth destroying monsters off (because i doubt they'll be doing a death of superman movie), then what's the point of a justice league movie?

Edited by Raw_Material

I'm hoping Zack Snyder and and Jeff Robinov produces a very top-notch Justice League movie and tops Marvel's The Avengers movie.

Finger's crossed!

Posted by Jonny_Rogers

Don't get me wrong - I love DC as much as any fan does... What I hate is the negativity.

Being both British and a comic book fan, it's only natural to have a strong following for 2000ad as well, which has opened up a world of difference for me. If you look at all the rubbish that any fan of the Galaxy's Greatest Comic has to put up with, especially considering that it's greatest achievement in the film industry is Dredd (a film that received about 1/30th of what the Dark Knight Rises received at the box office), nothing is really that bad for DC fans. For the record, Dredd is BY FAR the best on-screen comic book adaptation ever (in terms of portraying characters correctly)... in my opinion. As proven by this film, quality really isn't enough.

I love DC films and comics, but I don't understand why people are complaining so much. I can understand that it's annoying that Marvel are (somehow) getting more films, but I think that DC films are far more worth waiting for... just because the viewers deserve to see something made. I used to be exactly the same as all the naysayers, but I realised that complaining isn't helping me enjoy what I have, as taking what I'm given (as I have learnt through Dredd) is really all that I can do... and I feel SO MUCH more satisfied for it.

Everything may seem to be going wrong about the Justice League film (according to the very limited and weak sources...), but kicking the project when it's down through the internet is really counterproductive, and is probably what's causing these problems. If you want a film, support it.

Besides, isn't the message of superhero and team films ultimately about how people help others? The reason why I'm slowly migrating away from American comics is because the industry is just too competitive and downright evil. I've never known a film about a team... let alone one that isn't even made yet... to divide so many people.

Superman is a brilliant character because he chooses to do good, despite all his problems. He's the last person from a distant race... forever cursed to save the world that he knows will never truly accept him, but he still tries.

I think that that is a message that the industry could learn from, but I guess that nothing really matters if Marvel have more films. Sorry... I forgot about that. I'll shut up and complain again.

Posted by Flaming_Weasel

Nolan's trilogy ends when John Blake finds the Batcave, showing the possibility of having a new Batman (or Nightwing). If they make (WHEN they make) a DC Cinematic Universe, I'd rather having Bruce Wayne as Batman (everybody would). In another point of view, they would have to make a new Batman movie (or more than one) and it would have to be better than Nolan's (obviously), so it would take time. Time that WB could use to make a Flash, an Aquaman or a Wonder Woman movie. If they use the alreadly existent Batman movies (they rule) they could spend time and make a Movie Universe. Of course, it's better to have a better DCU and wait longer than have John Blake as Batman.

Edited by Jonny_Rogers

Completely unrelated to my post below, something else that I've noticed is that they've chosen another Brit. I know he hasn't got the role of the Flash yet, but something can be said for the kind of place their looking at. It's probably a coincidence, but I wonder if there's something more to this... Hmmm

Posted by BlueLantern1995

I'm hoping Zack Snyder and and Jeff Robinov produces a very top-notch Justice League movie and tops Marvel's The Avengers movie.

Finger's crossed!

That sounds impossible. The Avengers was pretty amazing. No team movie with popular characters(who have there own series) has bested it. And I doubt that will change any time soon.

Posted by thenexusrebound

@reignmaker: They aren't saying that there is no kryptonite, they are just saying they aren't using it as a plot device this go around. I mean how easy would it be to take down Zod, Superman and the rest if you threw it out in the battle?

Edited by lilben42

@bluelantern1995: Not at all focus on the plot, action, and characters instead comedy And action then it could be better easily. Avengers is really corny and weird now.

Edited by Reignmaker

@reignmaker: They aren't saying that there is no kryptonite, they are just saying they aren't using it as a plot device this go around.

Yeah, I actually looked at it this way after thinking on it for a bit. In that case, it's not a bad thing.

Posted by Stormbox

@monkeyonurback_: True, but kryptonite has been way more overused in superman movies than powerful villains

Posted by Darman456

No Cinematic Universe will reach the level of the MCU! Especially if the Amazing Spider-Man is officially brought into it. But, I'm hoping for the Batman reboot to stay true to the character, get inside his head a little more and start off as a detective, murder mystery leading him to Black Mask or some other assassin. It will also tie back to Ras al Ghul to be the big villain of the trilogy. But no origin story, just an Incredible Hulk credit retelling of it.

As for Superman, I'm not really a huge fan of the character. And I feel I'm going to walk away from this movie feeling the same way I did after DKR. In one word: disappointed.

Edited by The Stegman

@fartvader:

@thecowman said:

Man, the super-heavy texturing on the costume is SO distracting.

Why is Hollywood so afraid of smooth surfaces and bright colors?

Maybe they are going for the more metalic costume since it's man of STEEL, idk. but this picture really looks badass. the costume the facial expression.

Have you noticed how bleak everything looks in Man of Steel? Color wise it seems drained, very stark looking. They say that MOS is going to be the catalyst for the DCinematic Universe, I hope all of the movies look like that, it's unique and will separate it from the colorful and Comic booky Avengers.

Edited by darkwingdan

Okay, couple things people seem to be nitpicking from this...

Kryptonite: all this means is that Kryptonite will not be a plot device for Man of Steel. After the last Superman movie, probably not a bad idea. Remember, the responses in the interviews from the cast and crew are about THIS movie.

Special birth on Krypton: according to the full reports, all children on Krypton were genetically engineered to be warriors, scientists, etc. Kal-El's birth, on the other hand, was considered "special" and a "cause for alarm." This likely means he was a natural birth. This doesn't mean he has powers from birth. All it means that the mechanics of this birth was unique.

Flash movie: they better get this made sooner rather than later. A Flash movie, in my opinion, should've been made before a Green Lantern movie. The Flash, from a mainstream perspective, is relatively well known compared to Green Lantern. What is Barry Allen? A forensic scientist. What are some of the most popular (not best) shows on television? CSI, Criminal Minds, and a plethora of other investigative shows. With a decent script, it's practically a license to print money.

Edited by ips

There's also a big change to the new Superman story -- kryptonite isn't in it. Director Zack Snyder broke the news in an interview and it looks like Kal-El's powers are possibly something he had from birth -- making him unique even on his home planet. -- G Katzman

This was some very unfortunate writing on the author's part. I read the original interview being sourced and the author completely misunderstood what he was reading when he read it, and subsequently wrote about it. Reading comprehension?!

Firstly, Superman's powers are not tied to Kryptonite; only his health is affected. So, it's exclusion of it [Kryptonite] in the movie is essentially irrelevant. That statement doesn't imply anything at all about the source of Superman's powers.

Next, in Superman's new origin Kryptonians are all biologically engineered. Kal-El is unique because he was born and not engineered like other Kryptonians.

Lastly, there was no mention in that article that his powers were genetically engineered at all, so it's a complete misunderstanding / gigantic leap of logic to claim that his powers were the result of genetic manipulation, or present at birth, or imply that he's the only Kryptonian with powers. Common sense tells us that since Zod and Faora will need powers to fight Superman in the movie, they have them as well. It's logical to assume that Superman still gains his unique abilities as the result of yellow star radiation and that is as close to having powers at birth as that article suggests.

Horrible article. -1 000 000

Posted by yeahbowen

An easy way for DC to finally have some credibility with their live action movies would be to have the people from all their animated movies make them. DC animated movies are top notch. DC live movies are usually a solid mediocre(recent Batman franchise being the only exception). Look at Marvel, they have it backwards, their animated movies are weak but their live movies are fantastic! It's like both groups said "hey look, we'll do a good job with this style, you do a good job with that style" and just gave up on the other.

Point #2: If Superman has his powers from birth and stands out from normal Kryptonians then why would anyone care about Zod or the others? They aren't using super suits like the first GI Joe movie are they?!

Edited by novi_homines

I am SOOOO pumped for this movie. Although I tend to lean more towards marvel, I REALLY want DC to consistently pump out high quality movies. Also, I think they can be somewhat realistic, but shouldn't be nearly as grounded as Nolan's films. I feel marvel has a FANTASTIC balance of comic booky films ( Thor, Incredible Hulk, Avengers), and more realistic films (X2, Captain America, Iron Man 1, Xmen First Class). DC should go this route as well. Superman, wonder woman, and Green lantern movies should be the most fantastical, and Green Arrow, Batman films should be the most grounded (relative to the others).

Posted by Samimista

@russt said:

The second you said Charlie Hunnam as the Flash, I immediately thought: no way, he has to play John Constantine. Glad I read the article source. Which Flash would he fit as? I just can't see it. I could see him as Green Arrow or Arsenal too, but I think that's just a bias from seeing him on SoA.

Ironically I always said that Charlie Hunnam would be the perfect Green Arrow. Didn't expect to see that DC have him in mind for Flash. Like the actor and a fan of SoA but like you I can't see which Flash it would be. Would of liked NPH for Wally West.

Edited by TheHulk

Hulk just hope that Superman does good at the box office. That all Hulk care about on the matter.

Posted by davidgrantlloyd

DC certainly have the potential to compete with Marvel in the movie world ... the trick is: getting it just right. Since Marvel have set the stage for what Superhero movies look, sound, feel like ... DC have more of a challenge ... it isn't enough that they duplicate the formula (that's inviting criticism for being copycats) they have to go further, push more boundaries ... basically 'outdo' what's already been done over the last 10 years in superhero cinema

Posted by Eternal19

I really hope that superman doesnt have his powers on krypton because that would be really stupid

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