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The Obama "Joker" Poster

The "Joker" gets political

It is not very often that I have the opportunity to get political in one of my blogs, but after having seen what I saw today, I felt it was appropriate. Let me start off by saying that I am not here to preach my politics to you, even though you would all do well to agree with my political perspective (that was a joke); but I did feel very strongly about the subject I will be discussing which is why I will not refrain from voicing my political opinion. Additionally, I hope that in this case you voice your opinion on the subject matter as well, even if it does not concur with mine.

Living in the United States and being born in another country, you learn to value the importance of your "inalienable rights." The right to vote, the freedom to choose who you want to marry, and what (if any) church you want to go to are all rights that we have as Americans; rights which many people all over the world do not have the privilege to exercise. Of all the rights we have been endowed with by our political system, maintaining the freedom to speak what we think is one of our greatest blessings.  For the most part, our voices are not restricted, and the idea is that if we are not hurting anyone, we can virtually say what we think, feel and believe. That right to speak freely is a choice and I feel at times that there are people that, for the sake of being seemingly controversial, speak their minds too freely. Remember "sticks and stones," and all that?

It seems that ever since President Obama a his recent cameo appearance in the issue of Amazing Spider-Man #583, we have seen the President all over comic books. He appeared in the Marvel issue as himself, as well as in Devil's Due's alternate interpretation of the President; "Barack The Barbarian."  While the majority of these titles really seem to be done in good humor, the most recent interpretation of Obama has not. 
 

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The image of Barack Obama's face manipulated to look like Heath Ledger's Joker above a "Socialism" caption looks more like a nasty joke and political statement and less like good wholesome fun. I am not surprised at the statement, considering Obama's recent health care conversation. However, were we living in a Socialist political system, there's a good chance that this particular picture would not have hit main stream.

This is a prime example of the way in which an image can speak volumes. Take the characterization of the Joker in The Dark Knight film. He is a mass murderer, insane, psychotic; I could go on. There is no doubt in my mind that Heath Ledger's interpretation of the Joker was phenomenal. Ledger's interpretation of the character captured all the attributes of the "Joker" that make him seem so scary. That is why by taking that image of the Joker's character and associating it with our current President is such a heavy statement. What is this individual trying to say? That Obama is psychotic? That he is a mass murderer? Not only is the image associating the Joker's character attributes to our current President; it is also putting the issue of a socialist political system in a negative light.

This is when I will open the floor and ask you what you guys think. How does the image make you feel? What are your thoughts on the political and characteristic interpretation and association that this image relays?

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@Babs:  Once again--I fail to pay attention.  My bad, my apologies.  Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.  Errrr....not really. 
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Go to google or yahoo and type "Bush" and see how many images you get of our former President that is in "Good Taste" I actually saw one where they made him look like Hitler, yet people are upset about this?
 

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The only thing about this that pisses me off was that the Joker was a very, very clearly an anarchist, not a socialist. The fact that someone did not understand this and equated the character's ideology - which the Joker mentioned BY NAME - as socialism shows how mind-numbingly uneducated some people are. The message the author wanted to convey was that Obama wants the government to run everything; the image he/she IS conveying is the exact opposite - that Obama wants there to be NO government. So yeah, whoever came up with this poster really dropped the ball on this one, all the author had to do was point a Stalin 'stache or a Mao mole (alliteration FTW) on Obama to get his/her view across.
 
TL;DR - Y SO SRS GUISE?

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@Nobody said:
" Go to google or yahoo and type "Bush" and see how many images you get of our former President that is in "Good Taste" I actually saw one where they made him look like Hitler, yet people are upset about this?
 

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Yeah, that also doesn't make any sense. How was bush anything like hitler...other than, you know, being a dude.
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@Nobody: Yup, exactly. I could never call the Obama/Joker image unacceptable or anything. It's all fair play in the rigours of winning hearts and minds.
 
It's just a shame it's the citizens that have to do this because they're the ones really passionate about their causes. In Australia, we mostly let the politicians do it to each other. US politicians never get into real debates/attacks the way Aussie/UK parliament question time sometimes does etc. Wish they did! Your guys/gals are always way too polite.
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I dig it.

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Here's my opinion..... WHO THE HELL CARES!!!??? This is America. We have the right to say whatever we want! We are allowed to write a book, the most stupidest book and even racist book in the world and try to sell it. We can do it, but will other people exercise their right and buy or even endorse the book?  That is all that matters. I don't care that if this is a comic coming up (Not sure, you never said if it is) it will be the American people who will either buy or don't buy. Want to know why because we have the freedom to do so. That's what I think. It's a picture...that was drawn in America....where we have freedom to draw such things.

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I’ll never forget that press release when Obama believes that what doesn’t kill you simply makes you stranger. His “Madness is like Gravity” speech rivaled JFK. God damned McCain…he’s one of those schemers trying to take control of his little world.       
 

“You know what I’ve noticed? Nobody panics when things go according to plan. If tomorrow I tell the press that a gangbanger will get shot or a truck full of soldiers will get blown up…nobody panics because it’s all part of the plan. But when I paint one little ‘ole photo of Obama…everyone looses their minds!!! Introduce a little socialism, upset the established order. I’m an agent of socialism. Oh and you know the thing about socialism? It’s fair”     
 
And Bush was closer to Hitler then Obama is to Joker...by a long shot. Hitler - Jews, Bush - Gays.

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Oh BTW, Babs my post meant nothing against you for posting this to us, lol.
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@Strife : 
 
More like the wonder twins.
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HAHAHA I bet my friend made this (joking)

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@Ben Templesmith:

Well said.  
 
That picture is moronic.
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I hate how no one is allowed to make fun of Obama without getting sent to the internet firing squad.
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@Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
@War Killer said:
" I heard about this, I don't see that big deal about it, so someone made a image and called him the Joker, woopdedo "
@War Killer said:
" @Editman said:
" @Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
Same. "
Yeah, CNN just had a thing about it and freaking out about it. It's a Picture People, Get Over It "
Agreed
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I don't see Obama as the Joker or any other character I see him for what he does, and what he has done has not made a very pretty image in my mind of  him.. I won't try to cus or anything, but this is what happens when people are blinded by the glamour of things. A Black President (the First Black president) has made a statement in the minds of many. Obama should be called the Guilded President because many people approve of him because he looks good on the outside, but his inside has been recently shown too(and its not anything like we see). And now that we truly know what his real plans are. We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation. 
 
            It's up to US
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@Strife said:
" Why so serious? "
Brilliant.
 
I don't think it's a big deal at all. It's just like a political cartoon...only not funny like the artist originally hoped it would be.
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ridiculous.

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@MysterioMaximus said:
"

I’ll never forget that press release when Obama believes that what doesn’t kill you simply makes you stranger. His “Madness is like Gravity” speech rivaled JFK. God damned McCain…he’s one of those schemers trying to take control of his little world.       
 

“You know what I’ve noticed? Nobody panics when things go according to plan. If tomorrow I tell the press that a gangbanger will get shot or a truck full of soldiers will get blown up…nobody panics because it’s all part of the plan. But when I paint one little ‘ole photo of Obama…everyone looses their minds!!! Introduce a little socialism, upset the established order. I’m an agent of socialism. Oh and you know the thing about socialism? It’s fair”     
 
And Bush was closer to Hitler then Obama is to Joker...by a long shot. Hitler - Jews, Bush - Gays.

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To the best of my knowledge, Bush never executed 6 million gays. Bush was no saint that's for sure, but he was no Hitler either.
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@Perspective91 said:
" I don't see Obama as the Joker or any other character I see him for what he does, and what he has done has not made a very pretty image in my mind of  him.. I won't try to cus or anything, but this is what happens when people are blinded by the glamour of things. A Black President (the First Black president) has made a statement in the minds of many. Obama should be called the Guilded President because many people approve of him because he looks good on the outside, but his inside has been recently shown too(and its not anything like we see). And now that we truly know what his real plans are. We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation.              It's up to US "
Just what would his "real" plans be?
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@Liryc said:
" If BO is joker, then what are bush and Chaney? "
Scarface (comics) and Two-face respectively?
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kind of a cool pic. i wonder if the artist intended it to start so much shit? or did he just decide to draw obama as the joker cuz it looks cool... i think the second one is right.

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Just b/c it's picture doesn't make it any less of a political statement, so generally people are going to overreact about it. The thing is it's not just the picture, it's the act behind it. They want to figure out the who and why, and if it was just intended as a joke or some intentional beatdown on our president. It can be interpreted many different ways, but as to the real means we won't know until the person who made it speaks out.  
 
If it is in terms of a joke that person has some balls that's for sure, or he/she didn't intend for it to become such a wide spread subject. idk     

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@War Killer said:
" @Editman said:
" @Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
Same. "
Yeah, CNN just had a thing about it and freaking out about it. It's a Picture People, Get Over It "
But a picture is worth a thousand words. 
 
haha sorry I just had to say that. But otherwise, i agree... it's just a picture...
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So this makes Biden.....Harley Quinn?

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Socialism is not the same as communism Babs... or a dictatorship... Canada does just fine as a socialist country.... and there is healthcare for all.... 'course, we can't afford to buy new hockey arenas for our NHL franchises because of it and lose em all to the States... but whatever a countries' priorities are I suppose.  I like Canada's better.

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@CaptHowdy said:
" Socialism is not the same as communism Babs... or a dictatorship... Canada does just fine as a socialist country.... and there is healthcare for all.... 'course, we can't afford to buy new hockey arenas for our NHL franchises because of it and lose em all to the States... but whatever a countries' priorities are I suppose.  I like Canada's better. "
Amen to that!
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I'm a Conservative and a Republican, so you know what I come down on this issue.   
 
Anyway, here's is some pictures of George W. Bush from Vanity Fair. 
 
 

 
 
 Were was the outrage then.   Here the website.   http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/07/bush-as-joker.
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Personally, I would have used Bazarro.  The Joker is too smart for Obama and his "Citizen Soldier's" Idea. Seriously the notion will get him and adminstration kicked out of office so fast he won't be able to see what is coming.

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@N15PCA: 
Probably, because if you hadn't of told me that was suppose to be Bush. I wouldn't of realized. I didn't really see his face in that until you mentioned something. I originally just thought it was a poorly drawn 
Ledger version of Joker.
 
In my post earlier in this thread. I said comparing any well meaning person to psychopaths is wrong, infantile, and an insult to those who died at the hands of real killers. I wish I could smack everyone who tries to compare presidents to Hitler. No matter which one they name.
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@Fluke-buddha said:
" @Perspective91 said:
" I don't see Obama as the Joker or any other character I see him for what he does, and what he has done has not made a very pretty image in my mind of  him.. I won't try to cus or anything, but this is what happens when people are blinded by the glamour of things. A Black President (the First Black president) has made a statement in the minds of many. Obama should be called the Guilded President because many people approve of him because he looks good on the outside, but his inside has been recently shown too(and its not anything like we see). And now that we truly know what his real plans are. We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation.              It's up to US "
Just what would his "real" plans be? "

@Fluke-buddha: I don't know what the extent of his plans are, but I know that he wants to turn our nation into Socialist country. That says quite a bit already.
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@Perspective91 said:
"...We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation.              It's up to US "
 
No the poster doesn't bother me but jackass comments like this one does.  The whole Socialism nonsense along with with these idiotic birthers do bother me.  It's a free country and we are allowed to say whatever we want even if its inane babel but when paranoid delusions get air time, repeated for political purposes by people in power, things get real chilly around here.
 
The other thing about the poster that is a little inappropriate is does remind me of the old black face comedians.
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Would this make Rush Limbaugh Batman? Cause if so he's really going to need to get in shape. The guy looks much more like the Penguin...

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@CaptHowdy said:

"Socialism is not the same as communism Babs... or a dictatorship... Canada does just fine as a socialist country.... and there is healthcare for all.... 'course, we can't afford to buy new hockey arenas for our NHL franchises because of it and lose em all to the States... but whatever a countries' priorities are I suppose.  I like Canada's better. "


@CaptHowdy: Yeah (no) and Canada's Health Care SUCKS!!!!!!

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Babs without even readin what ya had to say when login on just now... By just havin to glance at this pic, I knew exactly what ya were talkin about... An yah, We all have the right and freedom of speach... Its just that well, Overall its the level in which how were heard... an well who ever made this sure did get our attention... : |
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@Luthorcrow said:
" @Perspective91 said:
"...We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation.              It's up to US "
 No the poster doesn't bother me but jackass comments like this one does.  The whole Socialism nonsense along with with these idiotic birthers do bother me.  It's a free country and we are allowed to say whatever we want even if its inane babel but when paranoid delusions get air time, repeated for political purposes by people in power, things get real chilly around here.  The other thing about the poster that is a little inappropriate is does remind me of the old black face comedians. "

@Luthorcrow: Did you just call me a Jackass?
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@Luthorcrow said:
" @Perspective91 said:
"...We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation.              It's up to US "
 No the poster doesn't bother me but jackass comments like this one does.  The whole Socialism nonsense along with with these idiotic birthers do bother me.  It's a free country and we are allowed to say whatever we want even if its inane babel but when paranoid delusions get air time, repeated for political purposes by people in power, things get real chilly around here.  The other thing about the poster that is a little inappropriate is does remind me of the old black face comedians. "
Do people really think someone is going to be able to turn the US into a socialist country in a 4 year term? Honestly, do people? Obama being president is not the end of the world. We had Bush for 8 years and we're still alive. Everyone calm down. Go to a movie with friends. Drink lemonade in the park. Play with a puppy. Cheer up. You're going to be alright. No one is trying to take away your freedoms. Quit being so paranoid. Enjoy yourself now...because before you know it we'll be under the control of ZOMBIE STALIN! AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
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I don't get the big deal about this picture. Not all feedback about Obama has to be positive. I'm not saying I'm against Obama, I feel that we should respect our president regardless of views. I'm just saying that the person that did this has a right to express his views the same way someone that was against Bush or Clinton had the right to express there views. @Day Hunter said:

" @Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
@War Killer said:
" I heard about this, I don't see that big deal about it, so someone made a image and called him the Joker, woopdedo "
@War Killer said:
" @Editman said:
" @Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
Same. "
Yeah, CNN just had a thing about it and freaking out about it. It's a Picture People, Get Over It "
Agreed "
You think freaking out about this picture was bad? I heard news stations complaining about this:
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LMAO!!! You got to be kidding me!?

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W. T. FUCKIN' HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE'S GOTTA PAY!!!!! WE MUST OVER-REACT IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!! PEOPLE CAN BE REAL BASTARDS SOMETIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S GONNA BE GO-TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@burr787 said:
" I don't get the big deal about this picture. Not all feedback about Obama has to be positive. I'm not saying I'm against Obama I'm just saying that the person that did this has a right to express his views the same way someone that was against Bush or Clinton had the right to express there views. "
Sure, I think it's very healthy to question your leaders and to keep them in check. That's how a proper democracy should function. But it needs to make sense. I think the big deal about the picture is how little it makes sense. Its like painting the joker face over the queen of England and having it say "Theocracy" underneath. It doesn't make any sense. its just silly and poorly thought out, nowhere near as clever as i think it's creator intended it to be.
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@Tmul501 said:
" @burr787 said:
" I don't get the big deal about this picture. Not all feedback about Obama has to be positive. I'm not saying I'm against Obama I'm just saying that the person that did this has a right to express his views the same way someone that was against Bush or Clinton had the right to express there views. "
Sure, I think it's very healthy to question your leaders and to keep them in check. That's how a proper democracy should function. But it needs to make sense. I think the big deal about the picture is how little it makes sense. Its like painting the joker face over the queen of England and having it say "Theocracy" underneath. It doesn't make any sense. its just silly and poorly thought out, nowhere near as clever as i think it's creator intended it to be. "
I think that he got the idea from this:

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disturbing, simply disturbing..
 
whoever did this must really hate the guy. must be a "racist" thing..

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@Tmul501 said:
" @Luthorcrow said:
" @Perspective91 said:
"...We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation.              It's up to US "
 No the poster doesn't bother me but jackass comments like this one does.  The whole Socialism nonsense along with with these idiotic birthers do bother me.  It's a free country and we are allowed to say whatever we want even if its inane babel but when paranoid delusions get air time, repeated for political purposes by people in power, things get real chilly around here.  The other thing about the poster that is a little inappropriate is does remind me of the old black face comedians. "
Do people really think someone is going to be able to turn the US into a socialist country in a 4 year term? Honestly, do people? Obama being president is not the end of the world. We had Bush for 8 years and we're still alive. Everyone calm down. Go to a movie with friends. Drink lemonade in the park. Play with a puppy. Cheer up. You're going to be alright. No one is trying to take away your freedoms. Quit being so paranoid. Enjoy yourself now...because before you know it we'll be under the control of ZOMBIE STALIN! AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! "

@Tmul501:

I'm not paranoid, and I ain't no Jackass who makes Jackass comments. I'm just being real. People take things for granted way to much these days.. And they think everythings going to be ok, but who knows how much dealing with the devil goes on inbetween our government and the corruption within it. Your a person, you know what it's like pleasing that dark side of your soul. Sometimes people would do almost anything for it.
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Obama’s been getting a lot of heat over the past couple of weeks and he’s a polarizing figure to many.   I know I go to one of those poles, and I’ve got nothing against making fun of him or anyone else.   So instead I’d like to address the whole socialism thing since as a History major and Sociology minor I have slightly different take on the word.

            For starts Socialism is just a word, it could mean anything.   When taken into the current political climate it does seem to mean everything from a puppy and bunny wonderland to a cold dark government death machine.   The truth is that it’s neither.   Every single Western European Country as well as and (basically every industrialized nation outside the ) considers itself a Socialist country.   I know you’re saying, ‘But Unsung they aren’t like Soviet Russia, they have all the freedoms supplied by the United States Constitution and didn’t write ’s constitution after the war?   So does that mean that we’ve always been Communists?”

            Well that’s a good question; the simple answer is that saying that socialism is really just like Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany is a gross misunderstanding of the term meant to demonize it to a populace unfamiliar with other forms of Governments.  It also doesn’t take into account that both nations had dictatorships or at least dictators for most of their histories.   In a dictatorship the government owns everything or decides everything similar to Communism but in this case only one individual has the power.

Also to suggest that Obama could make America a Socialist state like let’s say Sweden which has one of the lowest death rates, crime rates, and poverty rates in the world in even 8 years is downright ridiculous.   It’s also ridiculous to suggest that in a socialist country like oh I don’t know, England where parodies of political figures especially in the face of the recent major scandals in parliament, would not either surface in the mass media or even be produced by the mass media and instead be bared by some sort of government boogie man.

Really it makes me feel safe and secure that I live in where at least we don’t censor our Mass media.  And freedom of speech is free to the point where things like nudity and cursing can be seen and heard on major TV stations just like ALL of .

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I love the Image and WOW what a great Photoshop design someone has some mad skills...Would love to see this as a T-Shirt

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@Perspective91 said:
" @Tmul501 said:
" @Luthorcrow said:
" @Perspective91 said:
"...We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation.              It's up to US "
 No the poster doesn't bother me but jackass comments like this one does.  The whole Socialism nonsense along with with these idiotic birthers do bother me.  It's a free country and we are allowed to say whatever we want even if its inane babel but when paranoid delusions get air time, repeated for political purposes by people in power, things get real chilly around here.  The other thing about the poster that is a little inappropriate is does remind me of the old black face comedians. "
Do people really think someone is going to be able to turn the US into a socialist country in a 4 year term? Honestly, do people? Obama being president is not the end of the world. We had Bush for 8 years and we're still alive. Everyone calm down. Go to a movie with friends. Drink lemonade in the park. Play with a puppy. Cheer up. You're going to be alright. No one is trying to take away your freedoms. Quit being so paranoid. Enjoy yourself now...because before you know it we'll be under the control of ZOMBIE STALIN! AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! "
@Tmul501: I'm not paranoid, and I ain't no Jackass who makes Jackass comments. I'm just being real. People take things for granted way to much these days.. And they think everythings going to be ok, but who knows how much dealing with the devil goes on inbetween our government and the corruption within it. Your a person, you know what it's like pleasing that dark side of your soul. Sometimes people would do almost anything for it. "
Well then, let me propose it in this fashion. What, exactly, are you going to do about it? I have so many friends who talk about all the dark and corrupt things going on in the government and how  We take everything for granted and there are dark forces lurking in the shadows. This sounds like the plot to a bad movie. If there is, indeed, all these back ally deals going on then BOTH of our country's political parties are doing it. The reason I make comments like I did is because: (1) we're on a comic book forum. We read books abotu superheroes for fun and for an escape from the mundane of the real world, (2) i'm 24, and I would still like to believe there is a shread of decency in the world. if this is unrealistic, I don't care, it seems much better than the alternative, (3) I do occasionally 'please the darkside of my soul", i just had a milkshake. The reason i'm giving your comment a little bit of crap is because it's just silly. You have absolutely no real evidence that we're going to magically turn into a socialist nation. You are, in fact, being the opposite of real. All i'm saying is, chill out a little bit. Of course politicans are corrupt, BOTH SIDES are corrupt. It sucks, but it's the truth.
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I honestly felt shocked just looking at the picture...scary...
Now, his health care conversation, what exactly was in that?

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Did U get the Joke? I didn't. 
 
More like an assasin threat or sumthin
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Man... aint that some Bullsh!t
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@Perspective91 said:
" @Fluke-buddha said:
" @Perspective91 said:
" I don't see Obama as the Joker or any other character I see him for what he does, and what he has done has not made a very pretty image in my mind of  him.. I won't try to cus or anything, but this is what happens when people are blinded by the glamour of things. A Black President (the First Black president) has made a statement in the minds of many. Obama should be called the Guilded President because many people approve of him because he looks good on the outside, but his inside has been recently shown too(and its not anything like we see). And now that we truly know what his real plans are. We can either step back and let him turn this nation into a Socialist country, or we can stand now and stop this so that we may still live in a Free Nation.              It's up to US "
Just what would his "real" plans be? "
@Fluke-buddha: I don't know what the extent of his plans are, but I know that he wants to turn our nation into Socialist country. That says quite a bit already. "
Exactly you DON"T know. If your going to go to the extent to bash someone for there political views you should at least have the common decency to KNOW WHAT THEY ARE!  If you're going to disagree with Obama, fine.  Its your right to do so, but to disagree with him and not even know why?  You really have to question the motives behind your dislike of him.   Its people like you that make flat out lying about facts a successful political strategy. 
 
As far as him turning us into a socialist society, I think not.  Wanting to make sure everyone has access to heathcare isn't socialism, its just doing what is right.  Making sure parents are able to get treatment for there children instead of being turned away is not socialism.  Making sure you are not dropped from your insurance if you get cancer is not socialism.  Making sure you do not go bankrupt from medical bills is not socialism.  You say we are a "Free nation",  guess what we're not.  We're a capitalist nation.    For any of you that are so against anything resembling socialism, ask yourself what the Police and Firefighters are?  Thats right socialist programs.  So if your so against socialism you must want the Police and Firefighters to be services you pay for out of your own pocket then, right?  "911, whats your emergency and will that be cash of charge."   Bottom line, there are basic human rights that we should have but are being fought against be government officials that depend on money from the health insurance companies to run their election campaigns.