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The Obama "Joker" Poster

The "Joker" gets political

It is not very often that I have the opportunity to get political in one of my blogs, but after having seen what I saw today, I felt it was appropriate. Let me start off by saying that I am not here to preach my politics to you, even though you would all do well to agree with my political perspective (that was a joke); but I did feel very strongly about the subject I will be discussing which is why I will not refrain from voicing my political opinion. Additionally, I hope that in this case you voice your opinion on the subject matter as well, even if it does not concur with mine.

Living in the United States and being born in another country, you learn to value the importance of your "inalienable rights." The right to vote, the freedom to choose who you want to marry, and what (if any) church you want to go to are all rights that we have as Americans; rights which many people all over the world do not have the privilege to exercise. Of all the rights we have been endowed with by our political system, maintaining the freedom to speak what we think is one of our greatest blessings.  For the most part, our voices are not restricted, and the idea is that if we are not hurting anyone, we can virtually say what we think, feel and believe. That right to speak freely is a choice and I feel at times that there are people that, for the sake of being seemingly controversial, speak their minds too freely. Remember "sticks and stones," and all that?

It seems that ever since President Obama a his recent cameo appearance in the issue of Amazing Spider-Man #583, we have seen the President all over comic books. He appeared in the Marvel issue as himself, as well as in Devil's Due's alternate interpretation of the President; "Barack The Barbarian."  While the majority of these titles really seem to be done in good humor, the most recent interpretation of Obama has not. 
 




The image of Barack Obama's face manipulated to look like Heath Ledger's Joker above a "Socialism" caption looks more like a nasty joke and political statement and less like good wholesome fun. I am not surprised at the statement, considering Obama's recent health care conversation. However, were we living in a Socialist political system, there's a good chance that this particular picture would not have hit main stream.

This is a prime example of the way in which an image can speak volumes. Take the characterization of the Joker in The Dark Knight film. He is a mass murderer, insane, psychotic; I could go on. There is no doubt in my mind that Heath Ledger's interpretation of the Joker was phenomenal. Ledger's interpretation of the character captured all the attributes of the "Joker" that make him seem so scary. That is why by taking that image of the Joker's character and associating it with our current President is such a heavy statement. What is this individual trying to say? That Obama is psychotic? That he is a mass murderer? Not only is the image associating the Joker's character attributes to our current President; it is also putting the issue of a socialist political system in a negative light.

This is when I will open the floor and ask you what you guys think. How does the image make you feel? What are your thoughts on the political and characteristic interpretation and association that this image relays?
235 Comments
Posted by Vance Astro

<-------------crying.

Moderator
Posted by War Killer

I heard about this, I don't see that big deal about it, so someone made a image and called him the Joker, woopdedo

Posted by The_Martian

I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense.

Posted by Editman
@Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
Same.
Posted by War Killer
@Editman said:
" @Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
Same. "
Yeah, CNN just had a thing about it and freaking out about it. It's a Picture People, Get Over It
Posted by rouju

Supposed to be a joke, but I don't get the joke? Didn't American supposed to be stand up together rather than divided for some idealism or something (FYI : I'm not American but I rather fascinated by how Americans survived great depression, 911, etc)

Posted by Tmul501

I wish I could have seen the reaction of the person who made this when they were showing it to their friends. "Oh man, check this out, I'm totally sticking it to Obama!" what's the point of making something like this? It doesn't even make sense, Joke was an anarchist is the movie, not a socialist. If you're going to make something like this, at least make sure it makes sense. 

Posted by Citizen 14

Why the fuss over something so awesome?
hah.

Posted by War Killer
@rouju said:
"Supposed to be a joke, but I don't get the joke? Didn't American supposed to be stand up together rather than divided for some idealism or something (FYI : I'm not American but I rather fascinated by how Americans survived great depression, 911, etc) "
It's show's how Obama's a Joke, that's the "joke"
Posted by geektrooper

I can see how this image can be offensive, but i really think that the "artist" just thought it was funny to "Joker-fy" the President.
It doesn't really makes sense to me what this picture is really suppose to mean (i dont really follow politics too much) and I don't think the "artist" does either.
 
shenanigans gone wrong in my opinion.

Posted by Editman
@War Killer said:
" @Editman said:
" @Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
Same. "
Yeah, CNN just had a thing about it and freaking out about it. It's a Picture People, Get Over It "
I've grown distant from politicians all together, I went to school studying it but i got frustrated by people's ability to blow thing out of proportion. Like in 2004 When Kerry was running against Bush, Kerry joked about the war in Iraq, and caught hell.Two weeks later Bush did it and everyone laughed it off. The Funny thing about this is if Obama answered back, he'd catch hell for that too.
Posted by kjc007
@Editman:  
 
Same
Posted by War Killer
@Editman said:
" @War Killer said:
" @Editman said:
" @Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
Same. "
Yeah, CNN just had a thing about it and freaking out about it. It's a Picture People, Get Over It "
I've grown distant from politicians all together, I went to school studying it but i got frustrated by people's ability to blow thing out of proportion. Like in 2004 When Kerry was running against Bush, Kerry joked about the war in Iraq, and caught hell.Two weeks later Bush did it and everyone laughed it off. The Funny thing about this is if Obama answered back, he'd catch hell for that too. "
I'm not an Obama fan, and people are just freaking out, CNN showed some picks of an image like this og Bush and I don't remember people going all nutso over that, so why now?
Posted by Tmul501
@War Killer: 
are people really freaking out about it? I just think it's kind of silly and a waste of time, but i'm not offended or anything.
Posted by Mutant X
@War Killer said:
" @Editman said:
" @Nobody said:
" I think some people are overreacting over this image. No offense. "
Same. "
Yeah, CNN just had a thing about it and freaking out about it. It's a Picture People, Get Over It "
Agreed.
Posted by War Killer
@Tmul501 said:
" @War Killer:  are people really freaking out about it? I just think it's kind of silly and a waste of time, but i'm not offended or anything. "
Like I said, CNN had a thing about and they had people on saying that the picture is childish or just wrong, which it's not, it's just some's oppion about Obama (their way of Free Speech) but drawn, not said
Posted by Strife

Why so serious?

Posted by The_Martian

The thing that bugs me is that if this was any other president, people wouldn't have given this image a second thought.

Posted by Tmul501
@Strife said:
" Why so serious? "
LMAO@War Killer said:
" @Tmul501 said:
" @War Killer:  are people really freaking out about it? I just think it's kind of silly and a waste of time, but i'm not offended or anything. "
Like I said, CNN had a thing about and they had people on saying that the picture is childish or just wrong, which it's not, it's just some's oppion about Obama (their way of Free Speech) but drawn, not said "
I agree that it's freedom of speech, I just still don't think it makes much sense. But who am I to try and understand true art? Besides, people wigging out about it is only going to add more fuel to the fire. Sometimes people just need to learn to ignore things
Posted by War Killer
@Strife said:
"Why so serious? "

Lol!!! ...Nice
Posted by spartan177

There's a lot of Obama love out there, so people will freak out about the picture. 
 
On a side note, it looks pretty cool. I'd like to see Obama stab a fly with a pencil the next time it buzzes around him in an interview.
Edited by MysterioMaximus

So I’ve been wondering of late…when did socialism suddenly become a bad thing and capitalistic greed admirable? Oh Fox news…your scaremongering is unparalleled. Joker Obama is uncalled for, not to mention very misinformed, be it an Obama supporter or not. Is it wrong? No. Is it in poor and stupid taste? Yes! Common!  Socialism: a political theory or system in which the means of production and distribution are controlled by the people and operated according to equity and fairness rather than market principles. THE HORROR! Not to mention Obama isn't making us a socialist country to begin with...these are the same people that think Obama wasn't even born here and evolution is a scandal so...

Edited by Decept-O

G-Man, I've been annoyed with Obama's constant appearance in comic books of late.  I will go on to state I'm not too keen on the man yet I don't hate him.  I think this may have struck a chord with you due not just to your political leanings but because it involved The Joker  and possibly more precisely Heath Ledger and how that image has been used to promote someone's opinion,  wrong or not, regarding Obama.   
 
I will say this is in bad taste for a variety of reasons and I understand your stance about it.   
   
 I've actually seen other digital manips of Obama as The Joker so this isn't something new but this one seems to be a bit more in your face somehow.  I honestly don't like it and think it should just be ignored. 
Posted by Terranei Parker

I'll be completely honest with you here. When I first saw Obama in Spiderman, it was cute. "Barack the Barbarian" was really not ok, even as a joke. Even just the cover was really offensive. This one just makes me angry. Not only because of the politics, but because of the pure stupidity that went into its making. I mean really. The Joker has nothing to do with Socialism, Obama has nothing to do with the Joker, it's just shameless. I've seen a lot of Pathos use in my High School English classes, but this is by far the most idiotic. If you're going to make a statement like "Obama is a socialist" at least make it in an intelligent manner. Do people even know what socialism means anymore?
 
GRAAAAH
angryface.

Posted by No_Name_
@MysterioMaximus said:
"

So I’ve been wondering of late…when did socialism suddenly become a bad thing

"
Exactly.
Posted by Liryc

If BO is joker, then what are bush and Chaney?

Posted by Tmul501

Socialism is generally seen as a bad thing for a lot of reasons, paramount being that it's a change from what we have now. And one thing people can't stand is change, good or bad.

Posted by No_Name_
@Decept-O said:
" G-Man, I've been annoyed with Obama's constant appearance in comic books of late.  I will go on to state I'm not too keen on the man yet I don't hate him.  I think this may have struck a chord with you due not just to your political leanings but because it involved The Joker  and possibly more precisely Heath Ledger and how that image has been used to promote someone's opinion,  wrong or not, regarding Obama.    I will say this is in bad taste for a variety of reasons and I understand your stance about it.       I've actually seen other digital manips of Obama as The Joker so this isn't something new but this one seems to be a bit more in your face somehow.  I honestly don't like it and think it should just be ignored.  "
G-Man didn't write this article :P
Posted by goldenkey

It's called freedom.  It's called satire. 
Posted by The_Martian
@Liryc said:
" If BO is joker, then what are bush and Chaney? "
Batman and Robin?
Posted by goldenkey
@Strife said:
"Why so serious? "

Best quote Ive seen on here 
Posted by MysterioMaximus
@Babs:
Hah! I'm so glad I'm not alone. I'm sorry, my hippie liberal is showing, but it just ticks me off that people don't even learn what socialism is, but bitch anyway. UGH!
Posted by Tmul501
@Nobody said:
" @Liryc said:
" If BO is joker, then what are bush and Chaney? "
Batman and Robin? "
Thank you, the mental picture of Chaney in the original robin suit is forever seared into my retina.
Posted by The_Martian
@MysterioMaximus: Language:)
Posted by Strife
@Liryc said:
" If BO is joker, then what are bush and Chaney? "
Not the president and vice president anymore.
Posted by Editman
@Tmul501 said:
" Socialism is generally seen as a bad thing for a lot of reasons, paramount being that it's a change from what we have now. And one thing people can't stand is change, good or bad. "
That's Sad. The people's republic of China are a Socialist country, as of right now there Economy is better than ours.
Edited by FoxxFireArt

Wise decision  to add that "(that was a joke)" at the start.
 
I see this kind of imagery as infantile. To show my political viewing. I think this kind of comparison of a real person to mass murders is disgusting. No matter who it is. Whether it is Bush or Obama. Neither man should be decorated to look like Hitler or other killers. It's spitting on the graves of all the Jews that Hitler beat, tortured, tattooed, raped, killed, and utterly slaughtered. Just because a person may have to pay an extra 2% in taxes does not compare the atrocities that Hitler and his ilk did.
If people don't often get what THEY want the stop and scream and pout like little babies. Some even go to these extremes.
 
I just don't see how making sure the less fortunate are taken care of is considered such a horrible thing. Don't they tend to teach that in most religions? I don't think Jesus ever taught that one should only care for those that can already afford it.

Posted by Tmul501
@Editman: that may be, but things are far from sunshine and roses in the people's republic
Posted by Editman

True

Posted by War Killer

I do have one question, and I don't mean to be rude, but why is this ComicVine news? it has nothing to with comic other then the Joker thing

Posted by Tmul501

because of the joker thing

Posted by Ben Templesmith

That's quite insane & I don't think the originator of the image has any clue about the Joker...I mean, according to the film version, I got a strong libertarian/anarchist ideology from him. A complete breakdown of how society operates etc. Obama might be trying to change the existing power structures that keep US healthcare the joke it is in the rest of the western world ( sorry guys, but it is ) but that's in no way making him a socialist/Joker.
 
But then, this sort of political attack isn't meant for the likes of me, or "the thinkers" ( Or the "elites" as anyone with half an education was being called apparently ). People who still vouch for the "Drill baby drill" motto will probably completely agree with this image, completely ignorant of the actual themes the fictional character promotes. To them, it's simply "JOKER=bad. OBAMA= BAD. JOKER+OBAMA= Hawhawhaw, now show us that birth certificate!".
 
So it's actually probably going to be rather successful among the demographic it's really aimed at. Will probably see the image for a long time to come. Whoever came up with it should probably be considered a right clever bastard. 

Posted by The_Martian
@War Killer said:
" I do have one question, and I don't mean to be rude, but why is this ComicVine news? it has nothing to with comic other then the Joker thing "
The joker makes it comic related. That and CV posts news that isn't always comic related but the Staff thinks we might be interested in.
Posted by MysterioMaximus
@War Killer:

What's wrong with talking something actually intellectual that has a comic book tie? I fail to see how that's someone not appropriate. I dig it.
Posted by MrDirector786

nice poster......... I think.....

Posted by Tmul501
@Ben Templesmith: "now show us that birth certificate!" 
 
Belly laugh my friend. Nicely done
Posted by MysterioMaximus
@Ben Templesmith said:
"That's quite insane & I don't think the originator of the image has any clue about the Joker...I mean, according to the film version, I got a strong libertarian/anarchist ideology from him. A complete breakdown of how society operates etc. Obama might be trying to change the existing power structures that keep US healthcare the joke it is in the rest of the western world ( sorry guys, but it is ) but that's in no way making him a socialist/Joker.  But then, this sort of political attack isn't meant for the likes of me, or "the thinkers" ( Or the "elites" as anyone with half an education was being called apparently ). People who still vouch for the "Drill baby drill" motto will probably completely agree with this image, completely ignorant of the actual themes the fictional character promotes. To them, it's simply "JOKER=bad. OBAMA= BAD. JOKER+OBAMA= Hawhawhaw, now show us that birth certificate!".  So it's actually probably going to be rather successful among the demographic it's really aimed at. Will probably see the image for a long time to come. Whoever came up with it should probably be considered a right clever bastard.  "

Well said!
Posted by Editman
@War Killer said:
" I do have one question, and I don't mean to be rude, but why is this ComicVine news? it has nothing to with comic other then the Joker thing "
The fact that the CV is a place where people can express there views. That and Obama himself is a comic Character
Posted by War Killer
@Nobody said:
" @War Killer said:
" I do have one question, and I don't mean to be rude, but why is this ComicVine news? it has nothing to with comic other then the Joker thing "
The joker makes it comic related. That and CV posts news that isn't always comic related but the Staff thinks we might be interested in. "
Oh, that makes sence

@MysterioMaximus said:
"@War Killer: What's wrong with talking something actually intellectual that has a comic book tie? I fail to see how that's someone not appropriate. I dig it. "
I was just wondering about it, that's all
Posted by MoonKnightFan123

Wtf? Creepy, but kinda awesome
but the joke, I don't get it...