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This is getting dull, I will surrender to your point if you can provide me with one example of a Zod like scenario where he doesn't kill the bad guy.

I'm not saying he has to be overly bright or silly, I'm saying he shouldn't be depressing.

This is a matter of preference really. While I agree that this movie has it's flaws I think it being an origin story is what held it down cus unlike Batman Begins, that was the first time the origin was done on he big screen. MoS was the second Superman Origin. Point is, I didn't think it was depressing and loved the ending. And the fact that they aren't just gonna sweep things under the rug makes me glad that DC is taking things a little bit more seriously than Marvel. While Marvel movies are gonna be fun I have no doubt DC movies will be more memorable.

That's just it, he proved that there is another way, and it ended up being a good story. Sure he's not as well established in this film, but beating Zod and being the bigger person would have been a much better story.

Actually he didn't prove there was an other way he simply scared the shi*t out of everyone by showing how it would be like if he went rouge. Honestly the lesson in that movie is kinda merky

Yeah, it was fun while it lasted

Awesome stuff!!!

@saint_wildcard said:

More like insight.

That's not what a Superman movie should be, it should be resisting that urge and showing why you need to be the better person. It's the uphill battle that people love Superman for.

I'm not saying he has to be overly bright or silly, I'm saying he shouldn't be depressing. Superman vs the Elite was a good serious movie that actually made me feel good when it was over, and made my younger brother appreciate Supes a little more.

That's just it, he proved that there is another way, and it ended up being a good story. Sure he's not as well established in this film, but beating Zod and being the bigger person would have been a much better story.

You used critics as a defense and I debunked your theory, The rest of what you're saying is opinion.

He presented a threat (like all villains do) but that doesn't mean he needs to kill him. Also keeping him in a prison is just an example, again it's the writers job to find a better way for Superman, instead of the same thing we've seen every other character do.

We've seen heroes kill the bad guys in most of the CBM's, MoS plans on dealing with it unlike those other ones. I say we are gonna see something we haven't see before, heroes dealing with the consequences.

Superman may not be a comedy character, but he's not suppose to be depressing. Also people already remember Zod from Superman II, and Superman didn't have to kill him in that (I know it seems like he did, but that's actually a myth) not to mention Loki, who was very well revived and didn't need to die.

He did, and that version has been airing for decades. The directors cut deosn't mean anything since at the time no one made a big deal about Superman (with a smile, remember that Comedian golden rule I was talking about) killing but are now. Loki survived, and Thor wanted to save him, it's not the same thing.

Those people were not low level threats, if anything they were more dangerous then Zod. This film was suppose to bring Superman back, but it ended up being a bad film that flips Superman off.

The Elite were all punked by Superman really easily, the only reason he dragged it out so long is cus he wanted to teach them a lesson. Superman could have beaten them early on in the story. Also when I mean low level threats I'm talking about the Governments and Atomic Skull which the Elite killed, Superman not killing the leaders or the Atomic Skull is not a show of great restraint for him but rather common sense.

Also I'm still waiting for a scan of Superman's no kill rule being tested.

I know, my point is changing the killing scene means making major changes to the movie, and if they didn't have it they may have made a better film.

He presented a threat (like all villains do) but that doesn't mean he needs to kill him. Also keeping him in a prison is just an example, again it's the writers job to find a better way for Superman, instead of the same thing we've seen every other character do.

Superman may not be a comedy character, but he's not suppose to be depressing. Also people already remember Zod from Superman II, and Superman didn't have to kill him in that (I know it seems like he did, but that's actually a myth) not to mention Loki, who was very well revived and didn't need to die.

Those people were not low level threats, if anything they were more dangerous then Zod. This film was suppose to bring Superman back, but it ended up being a bad film that flips Superman off.

.... yeah something tells me they had other reasons than that. Also Nostalgia Critic (although I hate using him for this) didn't like the movie but liked what they were going for, that you can't always get your way (as shown in Superman 1 and 2).

Also in that example you used it turned out Superman didn't actually kill Zod, and when he thought he did he banished himself from earth.

He killed Mr. Mxy in that. Also that's just showing how psychotic Superman can be at times which is a characteristic I didn't like and neither should you considering the amount stories where Lois dies and he goes nuts. Also I'm pretty sure Saren stated that in the comics the alternate Zod is dead.

Also in terms of character development (which we got none of in MOS) it would have been even better if Zod and the people wanted him to kill Zod, but despite this Superman refuses.

...the things I wanna say about this idea would get me banned so I have to watch my words. I'll just use capital letters *clear throat*

ZOD IS NOT SOME DBZ VILLAIN/TERRANCE STAMP COPY CAT, ZOD COULD NOT BE CAPTURED BY HUMAN TECH AND CLARK WITHOUT JOR-EL DOESN'T HAVE A TRAP FOR HIM. YOU WANT ZOD TO JUST BE SOME IDIOTIC MARVEL VILLAIN WHO PRESENTS NO THREAT TO CLARK.

Okay, now that that's out the way here's the rest. The situation you're putting Clark in is not a great on and rather dumb. But let's say Superman had a trap and but Zod in a cage. The people want him dead, then yes I would agree Superman would not kill.... BUT THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION HE WAS PUT IN!!! Show me once instance of Superman's no kill rule being tested and him overcoming it.

Say what you want about Guardians but at least you can feel good after that movie.

Because it's a comedy. And just like a comedy the story is average at best. Marvel applies the comedians golden rule "If you can make someone laugh you can get away with anything" but instead of having to get away with racism or homophobic statements all they have to get away with is average story and a terrible villain. Not that hard really. At the end of the day most people won't even remember Ronin, but people will still remember Zod and his fate.

Superman vs the Elite was to sum up why he doesn't kill, why he is the way he is, and why his way isn't broken.

Yes, he proved that he doesn't have to kill low level threats. So next time a cop doesn't kill a streaker let's throw him a parade. It's a good lesson to teach the Elite but it's hardly the end all be all to the Superman no kill rule policy.

That's just it, the situation presented, they could have easily changed the situation, so that Superman would not kill, and so that the movie would be better (like it or not the critics did not respond well). Also in that example you used it turned out Superman didn't actually kill Zod, and when he thought he did he banished himself from earth. Also in terms of character development (which we got none of in MOS) it would have been even better if Zod and the people wanted him to kill Zod, but despite this Superman refuses. That would have shown how big of a person he is. Say what you want about Guardians but at least you can feel good after that movie. Superman vs the Elite was to sum up why he doesn't kill, why he is the way he is, and why his way isn't broken. At the end of the day Snyder and Goyer think Superman is broken and he needed to be fixed, and it saddens me that he is the man helming DC's movies.

And that would make it bad writing. You're not asking to change the ending you're asking to change the whole movie. The way the movie presented the situation there was no other way. And like I said before THEY ALREADY DID THE KRYPTONIAN TECH POWER REMOVAL IN THE LAST ONE!!!!Also don't use fantasy is not an excuse for lazy writing (hero winning without any problems). Yes but Batman's no kill rule has always been a lot stricter (to the point where it's insane. although I'm sure he has killed in comics) than Superman, also Superman thread>>>>>> Batman Threats. Batman fights crazy people that he has to outsmart Superman fights people that could lay waste to planets and are sometimes smarter than him. Superman has killed a lot, despite delusional claims that he hasn't. This being the one closer to the Zod situation

Point being, sometimes there is no other way. Superman killing Zod will actually lead to more character development than him not killing him and winning via PIS. but hey f**k that, let's get you a happy ending right. If you want a story where things end idiotically go watch GotG again.

Being a symbol of hope means showing that there is another way, and showing that you can be a strait laced good guy.

Showing there is an other way=/= always an other way. The story of Superman VS the Elite was more about him showing the kids to not abuse their powers and kill normal people. But that story isn't the best of example of him flexing his no kill rule cus Superman didn't need to kill anyone in that story. It be like prasing a cop for not shooting a middle school kid who is shoplifting.

@saint_wildcard said:

No other way? it's a movie a writer could come up with any number of better ways to write that seen. Also again, it's not his first day, we saw that he had extraordinary abilities that he could control and that were superior to other kryptonians. Also Batman is not a god and he does not kill. The whole point of Superman is that he is a fantasy character, you can't do him grounded and realistic, because he will never be grounded and realistic. Being a symbol of hope means showing that there is another way, and showing that you can be a strait laced good guy.

No. that would be lazy..... BECAUSE THEY DID THAT IN THE LAST ONE!!! Covering his eyes wouldn't have done anything, and in the end he had to die, there was no other way, No help from a crystals that drain power and no flying back in time. Superman will always try and find an other way, but he's not a god. And if we can't forgive him when it's his first day then we have insanely high standards and don't want a real character but a fairy tale. The cinematic unverse will deal with him getting better and showing us he's a symbol of hope, but it seems like you want boy scout Superman ready and set to go and that's not only boring but unrealistic.

In the end either way is lazy it's just up to personal preference.

@saint_wildcard said:

What I'm saying is he didn't need to kill him, he could have flown Zod away, covered his eyes, or since he can so easily move his neck, stop him from aiming at the citizens. After that any writer could have easily written in some kind of prison using that Kryptonian tech that drained their powers from the movie, instead of the laziest of all writing tropes, the no win situation.

Because in the comics Superman can match Zod and a lot of people via experience (although he'd also needs a jail to hold Zod). In MoS he lacked them and could barely match him, him getting Zod in that headlock was pure luck so, as you know

it's either that or fight forever

@saint_wildcard said:

How do fighting skills stop him from breaking a neck?

Nice

Heat Vision Control =/= Fight skills

@saint_wildcard said:

Then how come he was experienced enough to cauterize a wound? heck, even as a kid he had enough control over his powers to heat a door nob and eventually control his sensing ability.

Marvin the Martian as Braniac, now that's awesome!

I don't like that they changed the art style for this show... it better be just for this one episode. :(

The Looney Tunes Show is one of my favorite cartoons right now. I haven't seen a new episode in a while.

So Elmer is Luthor, Marvin is Brainiac, and Daffy is Zod so I wonder if the Tasmanian Devil would be Doomsday?

This episode aired in Australia about a month ago and this is WAY better superman story than Man of Steel!

@amazingwebhead: oh yeah i love it. I know a lot of people hate it, but it was hilarious, daffy is by far the most hilarious. At least the got to do the two seasons like they wanted and it wasn't prematurely pulled off the air and canceled.

That has got to be the single greatest thing I have ever seen in my entire life! It's the perfect combination of Donner and Snyder!

(I would be telling the New 52 to suck it, but I'm too busy gushing!)

Nice to see I'm not the only one who likes this show. But damn, it's really over? :'C (Also, 52 episodes? What are the odds?)

i like the addition of yellow. Wish the S on the cape was yellow as well instead of black

I love this. I think it airs in Greece but it is in season 1.

It did finish, that is the last episode, it just got aired in Canada earlier than the US. They decided to only make 52 episodes and the team moved on.

Wow I was pretty sure this show got canned. Glad to see they're airing a new episode! Now if only we can get a new episode of Young Justice.

To those that have "seen" this, it has not aired on Cartoon Network, as some have already stated up above. As we are based in the United States, we go by what has or hasn't officially aired here.

I saw this like, months ago, thought it was their last episode.

wow, i so much love this. lol

Can't wait to watch it. It's ashamed this show was cancelled.

i saw this episode like a 2 years ago or one year.

But.. it's already aired. What scam are you pulling @g-man

This is awesome. Lol lets hope they don't make Supes Faora romance in canon haha

@i_dont_like_comics: it's pg brah, also Superbugs has been at it for a while, MoS Superman hasn't

my superman snaps necks!!! that's not my superman!!

Wait, didn't this show get canceled?

*Weeps in corner*

This show is still going? I haven't heard anything about it in a while

I am so confused. I saw this one on tv already a while ago. maybe they aired it in error

@hushofthewind

The show is finished after this season, they decided not to do another season, it wasn't cancelled...just finished. Sorry :(

EDIT

** nevermind im not crazy**

This episode first aired on Teletoon in Canada on November 3, 2013 and on Boomerang on May 13, 2014.

He actually looks a bit more like Ra'as but I can dig it either way

If Buggs is Superman and Daffy is Zod in this and Green Lantern in an earlier cartoon who's Batman?

Porky Pig?

"I'm Ba ba, I'm Ba ba ba, I'm the godam@n Batman."

This shows animation is impressive. I hope it's not endangered of be canceling

Finally we will see a supes empowered with the TOONFORCE!