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'The Dark Knight Rises' Writer Talks Justice League Movie

Writer Jonathan Nolan discusses the role of 'Robin' in 'The Dark Knight Rises' as well as his thoughts on a 'Justice League' Film.

With all the rumors swirling around actor Joseph Gordon Levitt and whether or not the actor will play the role of Batman in a Justice League film (as a continuation of his role in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises), who better than TDKR screenwriter Jonathan Nolan to address the speculation?

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In a recent interview with the screenwriter, Jonathan Nolan revealed that while Joseph Gordon Levitt's "Robin" character didn't exactly fit into the Batman universe he and his brother director Christopher Nolan had created, but that the character was "very important to the story."

It is a little hard to imagine Robin working in that universe, so the idea had to be limited to that gag at the end. But Joe’s character is very important to the story. In any movie you need a character looking at proceedings the way you see them, and Joe’s character is that character for this film. One of my favorite scenes is when John tells Bruce how he knew he was Batman. It’s like that scene in The Prestige where the little kid sees through Christian’s trick. Little kids, they don’t have any illusions, they just see the truth of the situation. I feel there’s a kind of spiritual connection between the two movies there.

However, whether he thinks we'll be seeing a continuation of the Nolan-verse in the rumored Justice League movie, his answer was vague at best. In it, he reiterates the love for Batman's character that he had while he was growing up, but that's where it ends.

== TEASER ==
I’m incredibly excited. I was a big Batman fan when I was a kid. In fact he was the only comic-book character I really liked. I went through a brief spell where I was reading Captain Britain, because I was an English kid living in the States, and Wolverine for 30 seconds, Spider-Man too, but really Batman was the one. And I love that there are different versions of the character. I love that in the context of The Justice League, he’s kind of the black sheep of that family.

What do you think? Do you think we will see the Nolan-verse Batman fit into a Justice League movie? Do you want to see actor Joseph Gordon Levitt play the role of Batman? Do you think that if we get Batman in a Justice League movie that the character should be a completely different version of the character than what we've seen?

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@OutlawRenegade: I have no faith in WB in getting the Justice League movie actually being put into production and coming out. I have said here multiple times that the only way I will believe that this movie is coming out will be when it is actually in theaters and I can pay money to see it. Until that point, any movie that WB puts out that is not a Batman movie will absolutely nothing. Man of Steel looks alright but I still don't trust Zach Snyder to rein in his 'special' brand of directing that I despise.

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I can't wait for a Justice League movie and I have to say that with the direction it's going for delivering DC's new movie franchise I can see it being a pretty good success. Aquaman in the movie? I have to say that while I am one of his biggest fans the movie's going to have to push his other powers to make people understand him better. And just for idea purposes, go for the costume design they pitched for his New 52 look, I would think it would go pretty well for a movie design.

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I'm conflicted here. Unlike most people I am not against the idea of the Nolan-verse continuing into Justice League. Those movies have never been as grounded in reality as people seem to claim. And Man of Steel, which is almost certainly going to tie into Justice League, easily looks to fit the tone of the Nolan Batman films. Additionally, the way Dark Knight Rises ends has significantly less impact if JGL never ends up donning the mask.

The only valid argument against going forward with Blake as Batman in Justice League, is that Bruce Wayne has such a distinct and interesting personality, and we've never gotten to see him interacting with other superheroes on the big screen. But unlike Dick Grayson or Tim Drake, Blake seems to be much more of an analog to Bruce than they are. I could easily see many of the same tensions and plot points coming out of John Blake Batman as Bruce Wayne.

Continuity vs. tradition; I honestly can't say which I think is more important here. Either way it could work, and either way it could fail miserably).

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Christian Bale should take the role as Batman in the New "Justice League Movie" an Joseph Gordon Levitt should take the role of Robin, if given the chance to do so in the future Batman films.

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The Nolan Trilogy ended so perfectly. It gave us a conclusion for Bruce Wayne, while re-iterating the theme of Batman being a symbol for the city of Gotham that will never die. We don't need to see what John Blake does with the role, nor should we. The story's over.

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levitt is a terrific actor, but i don't see him as bats in an jl movie. it's hard to imagine someone else than bale as the dark knight.

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Oh yeah. let's get someone who just admitted to ONLY liking Batman comics to write a Justice League comic.

No. This is a horrible idea.

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@ComicMan24 said:

@Lvenger said:

Continuing the Nolanverse into the new DC Cinematic universe would be a baaad idea. It would wreck the whole point of the shared universe. Although it's too soon for a reboot it has to be done. But I still feel DC are rushing this Justice League movie and thus it won't be anywhere near how the Justice League film should be

This, pretty much.

This and let me add that if they reboot they don't have to start again from the origin story again. We all know it and they can do pieces of it in flashbacks of the course of the movies if he gets more of his own. Leave Nolanverse with disappointment of Superman Returns.
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@OutlawRenegade said:

@mickoreo_LZ said:

Anybody else think that this Justice League movie is kind of a bad idea? Audiences won't even know who half the team is.

Debunked: Did people know Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Storm, and Professor X before X-Men? No. Did anyone know Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl, Frozone, Dash, Violet, or Syndrome before Incredibles? No. Did audiences know Frodo, Sam, or anyone else from the Lord of The Rings? No. Did anyone know Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Han Solo, Leia, Chewie, or Lando before Star Wars? No. Is your point valid? No. Justice League is not trying to do what Avengers did. It's getting people into these characters so that audiences see their SOLO films afterward.

@mickoreo_LZ said:

And then we have the Dark Knight trilogy and GL movie that will only confuse people more when they realize its not the same characters from those movies.

Debunked: Yes, becaue audiences were confused by the Amazing Spider-man reboot or the James Bond Reboot?

@mickoreo_LZ said:

I don't care how long it takes, individual characters need to be introduced first. It's just plain logical

Debunked: Solo films have a better chance of succeeding if Justice League is successful because the audience will know the characters from that. Superman and Batman are still a better box office draw than Green Lantern or Wonder Woman. They are definitely a bigger draw than Aquaman right now.

@mickoreo_LZ said:

BTW Joseph Gordon-Levitt will have nothing to do with this JL movie. Lets be realistic here folks

This is the only thing in your post that makes sense.

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Justice League needs to strike the superhero iron while it's hot before every other movie fills the niche that the solo films do. For example Star Trek is similar to what many people want out of Green Lantern. What will people get out of a Wonder Woman film that they haven't seen in Thor, Troy, Clash of the Titans, 300, etc.? And this superhero trend won't last forever. Look at what happened to dance movies in the 80s or football films in the 90s. Furthermore, a lot of the solo films will be bad anyway, so even that's a gamble. Only Iron Man and Thor helped the Avengers. Incredible Hulk and Captain America were mediocre. Iron Man 2 was bad, so let's not say solo films are the end all be all. Especially since people were always more interested in Avengers than they ever were in Captain America or Thor.

Marvel's way is not the only way. If DC does what they did with solo films then no one will see their films because Marvel already did that. And Marvel will gain more ground on this Intellectual Property war for the future of superhero cinema. DC just needs a different tone than Marvel (like Man of Steel or The Dark Knight). DC and Warner need to take risks if they want to catch up with Marvel. Go big or go home.

I need to see a Justice League film ASAP or else I will lose faith in DC Comics and Warner Brother's in film forever. There's no time left to play it safe.

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I think they should make Batman more like he is in the comics. I don't like the Nolan films at all, and the reason is, that he barely resembles his comic counterpart. I want to see an agile, martial artist who uses his cowl to analyse the world around him as an actual detective. Basically, I want to see the Arkham video games Batman on film :)

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@evilvegeta74 said:

No they should go away from that Batman Trilogy altogether and go with something totally new!

This.

It just doesn't fit. k4tzm4n did an article of this though and worded it perfectly.

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Schumacher Batman for the JLA film! Who's with me? Anybody? Anybody? *cricket noise* Ummm.... Am I alone?

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@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

Oh yeah. let's get someone who just admitted to ONLY liking Batman comics to write a Justice League comic.

No. This is a horrible idea.

He's not working on Justice League...

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I like Christian Bale as Batman. I don't care if Batman is different in the JLA movie, I just Christian Bale portray Batman because he seem like a good fit as Batman and he's a great actor. I also want Stephen Amell to play Green Arrow, if their gonna add him. He's already green arrow in CW's Arrow series, so he would be great as Green Arrow.

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@OutlawRenegade said:

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

Oh yeah. let's get someone who just admitted to ONLY liking Batman comics to write a Justice League comic.

No. This is a horrible idea.

He's not working on Justice League...

lol. I totally misread the thread title. Silly me.

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The Nolan-verse needs to be done with TDKR, period. Don't have Robin-Batman make an appearance. For Justice League, have another Bruce Wayne be part of the team. Otherwise its just silly I say.

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Reposted from another thread:

The problem with that statement is that the next Batman movie can't be Nolanesque. It has to be fantastical. Why because we need to see a movie that is at least as enjoyable as Iron Man 1 (talking about entertainment value not tone) where we see the JLA batman (I've always contended that there are many batmans).

We need a batman that can through tech, insane level of skill and competence as well as almost supernatural levels of foresight and intelligence compete and defeat threats that are clearly super-human. We need to see the Batman that can take on White Martians, fight demons and defeat meta-humans. Otherwise the Batman of the next movie will have no place in a JLA feature.

To this end his enemy should be one with super-powers and resources and be a personal threat to at least city wide through his own power. We need the Poison Ivy who's mutant plants can crush sky-scrapers. We need the Hugo Strange we can make an army of monsters. We need the demonic enemy of Harvest Breed only ranked up to 100.

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@Crom-Cruach said:

Reposted from another thread:

The problem with that statement is that the next Batman movie can't be Nolanesque. It has to be fantastical. Why because we need to see a movie that is at least as enjoyable as Iron Man 1 (talking about entertainment value not tone) where we see the JLA batman (I've always contended that there are many batmans).

We need a batman that can through tech, insane level of skill and competence as well as almost supernatural levels of foresight and intelligence compete and defeat threats that are clearly super-human. We need to see the Batman that can take on White Martians, fight demons and defeat meta-humans. Otherwise the Batman of the next movie will have no place in a JLA feature.

To this end his enemy should be one with super-powers and resources and be a personal threat to at least city wide through his own power. We need the Poison Ivy who's mutant plants can crush sky-scrapers. We need the Hugo Strange we can make an army of monsters. We need the demonic enemy of Harvest Breed only ranked up to 100.

Dracula, Clayface, and the Court of Owls also work.

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@OutlawRenegade said:

Dracula

lol, I'm always amused by that mention into a batman story as Dracula in the DC universe only appeared in crappy elseworlds. Not that it couldn't be done, thought I have no idea who could pull it off without the movie sucking

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Clayface

That could be awesome

And yes you could use the Court of Owls theoretically as said in your other thread. Practically it will never happen.

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Funny, because that scene is one of my least favorite from Dark Knight Rises; it felt so forced and full of it, personally. Like they had no idea how to do it or include it in the movie so they did it anyway. "You know how I knew you were Batman? The look in your face." Seriously, what the heck?

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I need to see a Justice League film ASAP or else I will lose faith in DC Comics and Warner Brother's in film forever. There's no time left to play it safe.

This is the only thing in your post that does not makes sense. DC's comics have been strong sellers with the New 52 line up. Im all for this movie and you hit it spot on. They do need to take risks but their is no way this movie will define who they are and who the characters are in my eyes. Im just excited we get to see JL hero's in action.

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Probably it's gonna be a Watchmen-type of approach where Aquaman is The Comedian, dead!

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Maybe they could plug the Justice League Movie into the 8 year period where Batman was missing from the Gotham scene and we can have Christian Bale reprise to the roll and that would end all of this needless speculation.

Batman has to be Bruce Wayne or I will lose faith in anything else Warner puts on the big screen involving DC properties.

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Joseph Gordon Levitt is a good actor, but I can't see him as Batman. It wouldn't be the same.

The writers/producers could still use Bruce Wayne as Batman. The JL will take ten years after since Batman "died" then some type of alien invasion threatens the Earth and every hero is needed, thus Bruce Wayne must come back from the dead. I know Christian Bale doesn't want to play Batman anymore, but they can still use another actor who can fit the role.

But if that still doesn't work, then... they have to retell Batman's story, well not really... kind of to explain, but whatever.

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@AlKusanagi said:

I'm sorry, but much like the MoS trailer has completely turned me off to it, I do not want a gritty, grimdark Justice League movie. It is completely in disservice to the characters and ONLY works for Batman. One of the main reasons why Avengers was so great was because it was just so damn FUN!

Well I get what you're saying, I just don't want a scene like "This man is playing Galaga" in a JLA movie or GL giving Superman a donkey punch, it just seems unnecessary.

But Superman could be dark, hell IMO a Aquaman movie could be dark as well. But I believe a good amount of seriousness and humor could work.

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How about no?

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@ssejllenrad said:

Schumacher Batman for the JLA film! Who's with me? Anybody? Anybody? *cricket noise* Ummm.... Am I alone?

:D ! lohhhl

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@jwalser3 said:

Well I get what you're saying, I just don't want a scene like "This man is playing Galaga" in a JLA movie or GL giving Superman a donkey punch, it just seems unnecessary.

But Superman could be dark. But I believe a good amount of seriousness and humor could work.

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@evilvegeta74 said:

No they should go away from that Batman Trilogy altogether and go with something totally new!

This. Maybe they could finally give us a Wonder Woman movie.

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@OutlawRenegade:Lol, I guess you don't think an Aquaman movie could be dark?

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A dark Aquaman movie...hmm :D

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@jwalser3 said:

@OutlawRenegade:Lol, I guess you don't think an Aquaman movie could be dark?

Not the first one. I mean yes, the character could be dark. But I think that the film should acknowledge the Aquaman jokes and turn them on their ear--like Johns did at the beginning of his run. =)

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@OutlawRenegade:Yes! Hell, I'd like to see him eat fish sticks.

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@evilvegeta74 said:

No they should go away from that Batman Trilogy altogether and go with something totally new!

Yes! I love Batman and i think the movies are great. But there is SO much more to the D.C universe.

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I feel that having a Justice League movie with a Batman who's NOT Bruce Wayne would be an INCREDIBLY unwise decision. The backlash would be STAGGERING.

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It sounds like if this guy were to write a justice league movie, it would focus mostly on batman instead of the other team members. Get a guy who isnt a batman fanboy to do this movie

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@evilvegeta74 said:

No they should go away from that Batman Trilogy altogether and go with something totally new!

I totally agree. Batman in the Nolan-verse was not what we all know Batman should be. In this universe, he killed, (Talia and the driver) he wasn't the intelligent/detective guy we know. With on;y those two being said, that is enough to show that Batman won't really fit into the Justice League movie. He'll just be like he works better alone. Cause that's all I envision. Just do a reboot on him and Green Lantern. and they'll be a few steps closer to making the perfect movie.

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