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Should Wonder Woman Have A Father Figure?

Recently DC announced that Zeus would be Wonder Woman's father, but is this the right move for her character?

When we found out that DC was "revamping" their universe and launching 52 new ongoing titles, we prepared ourselves for a variety of slight changes to characters and their costumes, but we didn't think DC would go so far as to make drastic changes to a character's origin story -- particularly not one of the big three -- so when news about the changes being made to Wonder Woman hit the web yesterday, we admit, we were pretty shocked.

'Wonder Woman' #5 Cover

Yesterday DC unveiled the cover to the fifth issue of their Wonder Woman series and on the NY POST they announced that Wonder Woman's origin story had undergone major modifications and that she would be getting a Dad; namely, Zeus. If you're a fan of the character then chances are that the idea of Wonder Woman having a father probably blew your mind a little bit. As it should. For those unfamiliar with her origin story, let's recap.

The first issue of George Perez's Wonder Woman series probably does the best job recapping the events of her origin. In it, Perez tells the story of how the Amazons came to be; and how they were essentially created by the Greek Goddesses to be sort of "model citizens" for the rest of mankind; demonstrating how mankind should live their lives. They were a new "race" and technically above mortals in terms of strength, intellect and power.

George Perez's 'Wonder Woman'

When Zeus gave the Goddesses his blessing to create the Amazons, Ares became angry. Ares believed new civilizations should be birthed from war, and therefore he tricked Heracles (demigod, Zeus' son) to conquer the Amazons and make them his slaves as part of his "trials" to prove himself. Heracles travelled to Themyscira and after drugging Hippolyta, he chained her up and proceeded to pillage Paradise Island. When Hippolyta awoke, she prayed to the Goddesses to release her from her shackles and she and the Amazons defeated Heracles. Hippolyta's reward was Diana, whom she created out of clay without the help of a man. Diana's entire existence was surrounded by powerful women, and it wasn't until Diana met Steve Trevor who accidentally crash landed on Paradise Island that she actually met a man for the first time.

George Perez's 'Wonder Woman'

Wonder Woman's character has never really been influenced by a man, which is why giving Wonder Woman a new origin story and incorporating a powerful male figure like Zeus as her father definitely changes things. But is this a good change? Should Diana have a father?

Writer Brian Azzarello has been dealt the responsibility of crafting Wonder Woman's new origin story, and from the start of the first issue in his series we get the impression that Zeus will not only be an integral part of the story, but that Azzarello is clearly laying out the character of Zeus to be kind of a womanizing jerk. Which, according to Greek mythos, is pretty accurate. He liked to have sex and he didn't really dig monogamy -- which incidentally is a big problem for his wife, Hera. So is this a good thing?

'Wonder Woman' #1

Upon hearing the news about the big change to Diana's origin, former Wonder Woman writer Gail Simone tweeted; "I am loving Brian Azzarello's Wonder Woman. Not sure about the dad thing, but love the creative team lots." I agree with her. While it's a little bit soon to say whether or not the "Dad thing" is a good idea (we haven't read it yet!) I will put my faith and trust Azzarello because I know that as a writer his primary goal is to tell a good, interesting and entertaining story.

Personally I think this is a good idea. While Diana's origin story is certainly interesting, it's not something we haven't heard before. We know she was made out of clay by her Mother. We know she was raised on an island of women. It's a story that has been told and retold many times -- yet it is still sort of difficult to wrap your head around. The idea of there being Gods and Goddesses is far-fetched enough, but the fact that she was made out of clay is even more unbelievable; and it also makes her a little unrelatable. By including this new piece to Wonder Woman's puzzle and giving her a father figure (albeit a pretty crappy one) it opens the door to further developing Diana's character in ways that we have never seen. Before this moment, writers have always struggled with crafting and expressing Diana's perception of the men that she meets and interacts with; and that may have something to do with the fact that she never had a Father or a father figure. She has never had a successful relationship with a male character; all she has ever done was fight them (with the exception of Steve Trevor, but that did not last long).

Hera in Azzarello's 'Wonder Woman' #1

Not only does giving Diana a Father allow for the further exploration of the way she views men and males in society as they directly relate to her, but the fact that her father is Zeus signifies that Diana is now a Demigodess. She gets to have a brother in Heracles, which is something we have never seen. This new development may also fuel Hera's anger, making her an even more interesting adversary on a personal level.

Whatever happens, the first issue in Wonder Woman's series was definitely interesting and well written, and I am looking forward to the changes being made to Diana's character and rediscovering her as a central part of the DC Universe. What do you think about the announcement that Zeus will be Diana's father? Do you think this will create a new facet to her character? Do you think this is a bad idea?

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Edited by Everyman011

First grade was hard for me.

Posted by Neverpraying

Wonder Woman says MY PARENTS ARE GODS! While Bruce and Clark say our parents are dead :(

Posted by ClawFist

Well as long as it continues to be written well anything can really kinda happen. While I myself don't mind Diana having a god-like father I really wish it wasn't Zues, its too predictable, Zues is too easy a target and too well known, give me a god I wouldn't see coming. Hades maybe I dunno, just someone less predictable then Zues, I would welcome that more.

Posted by christopherwalken

Hmmmm...

Posted by Burnstar1230

As long as it doesn't change who she is, she could be half-Amazon, half-Kryptonian for all I care.

Posted by komikboy

personally, i agree that diana should have a dad.

the issue that woman should be "better" than a man or visa versa isn't really got my intrest. Maybe becoz i prefer "equal partner" betwean man and woman... so the term amazon as a new and better race isn't my taste. Especially when DC labeled WW as peace and love icon but the personification of WW actually are a fighter or further more...maybe a rabel (among gods or demigods).

Its intresthing to see Gods walk among humans ... but i hope Azzarello didn't made them "too" human... they should be a definitive difference betwean being human and act as human... and mostly i read Gods (Zeus and friends) is portrayed as human rather "a true" Gods... (i.e : its rediculous for me to see WW can punch Zeus in the face to the ground - Gail Simone arc. even if Zeus is in "human" form. Zeus is all father Gods in greek mytology, and he fall down by his (or his comrade) creation? ck!... )

Posted by talladegamatt

Great Article Babs. Although the verdic is still out, I think it's a risky venture to change the historical foundations of a grand institution such as Wonder Woman, or Superboy for another recent example. It's one thing to write stories and add little pieces that fit into the history. You can even predate the history, but rewriting it differently leaves me with a feeling that all the time invested and care put into understanding the characters and lore is wasted. It seems like it negates the richness cultivated in the character and storyline. It's analagous to someone making a new Star Wars movie where Luke's father turns out to be Obi. Hopefully, I'm wrong and it's a good thing and hopefully, they don't venture much farther than this.

Posted by heroesneedbeards

This could be a very interesting element to her mythos especially if she didn't know her father was Zeus.

Posted by chalkshark

 Being just another daughter among Zeus' endless litter of offspring erases the uniqueness of her origin. She's much more interesting as a clay golem. She was already tied to Greek mythology through her relationship with her mother & the amazons. She was directly connected to the Gods, since, in answer to her mother's prayers, they breathed life into the sculpture that became Diana. Now, not only is she the half-sister of her mother's rapist, but her purely feminine origin is clouded over with male DNA. Really glad I'm not buying this series. 

Edited by The Stegman

Maury opens the DNA test 
 
 
"Ok, Zeus, when it comes to 25 year old Princess Diana of Themyscira...you....ARE the father!" 
 
Zeus- "DAMMIT! I AIN'T PAYIN' NO CHILD SUPPORT! I ALREADY GOT TOO MANY KIDS AS IT IS'

Posted by Grimoire

I'll say it again that I do not like the Zeus in the DC universe. Some stories could be interesting with this twist but what will most likely happen is like it was said that she will judge man based upon her experiences with Zeus and not on their own merits which is wrong. Isn't it small minded to group everyone together based on the knowledge of a single person?

I hope they did not change that aspect of her character that tries to see more than one side of a conflict.

Posted by sora_thekey

I feel kind of uneasy by this. I am not going to flat out say this is horrible because I have not read the story yet and Azzarello did a good job with the first issue. I am going to say that it seems weird that this change would be implemented. Like Sara said, Wonder Woman is known to be the female character with the need of no man. Represent a new kind of feminism and now that there is a male influence in here conception that iconic female presence seems to fall short. Then again... Azzarello could prove me wrong.

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Posted by Feliciano2040

Wonder Woman having a father ? Hell yeah !

That father being Zeus ? Hmmmmmm, I'd rather wait and see how Azzarello writes him.

Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus

I immediately thought back to the Rise of the Olympian storyline when I heard about this tidbit of Diana's new parentage. Made me immediately think back to when Diana struck Zeus knowing what he had done in that story and makes me laugh at the fact that now that horrid skyfather is now Diana's papa! That being said, I'm of a mixed opinion on this matter of the thunder god being Diana's father. Part of me thinks it is a good idea since it will add new bits of drama sorely needed in the Wonder Woman mythos as of late. The other part of me thinks that this is a bad idea though since it relegates Diana to the level of a female Heracles now. What made her unique was that she was obviously strong as a demigod but that she came from the ground and was made on account of Hippolyta's faith and prayer. In truth it just makes me wonder if Azzarello is taking cues from Hercules: The Legendary Journeys program (Kevin Sorbo for those of you who don't remember). Already I can see Sorbo's Hercules on par with this New 52 Diana, and Zola smacks of the character of Iolus just a tad too much. Other than that, I see no issue with Zeus being the philandering Olympian god that pokes anything that moves since that is accurate to the mythologies surrounding the deity. Still, with this bit of information, the book just smacks too much of Kevin Sorbo's Hercules series now, except that this story is set in a modern age world...but then again from the promos I kinda figured that was the direction that was being taken.

Edited by Hazlenaut

Thought the impact of her being the daughter of Hades was more surprising in the Justice League Animated Series. Did they go with the lightning bolt hitting statue carved by Hippolyta? Was there ever someone call her a golem? There should be a villain that belittles her for that. Check out metal sonic in this video

Posted by cosmo111687

I wonder what this means for Cassie.

Posted by cosmo111687

@Neverpraying said:

Wonder Woman says MY PARENTS ARE GODS! While Bruce and Clark say our parents are dead :(

God is dead. *puts on Nietzsche mustache and rolls out.

Posted by NightFang

I say giving Diana a father could be interesting if used carefully and I think it would have been more imaginative to Ares, Hades or even Captain Nazi threw rape of Hippolyta (The first Wonder Woman and funding member of the JSA at the time), and why she quit the team and returned Themyscira.

Posted by B'Town

@talladegamatt said:

Great Article Babs. Although the verdic is still out, I think it's a risky venture to change the historical foundations of a grand institution such as Wonder Woman, or Superboy for another recent example. It's one thing to write stories and add little pieces that fit into the history. You can even predate the history, but rewriting it differently leaves me with a feeling that all the time invested and care put into understanding the characters and lore is wasted. It seems like it negates the richness cultivated in the character and storyline. It's analagous to someone making a new Star Wars movie where Luke's father turns out to be Obi. Hopefully, I'm wrong and it's a good thing and hopefully, they don't venture much farther than this.

My gut agrees with you. But there is also a small voice, in the back of my brain saying that maybe this is what is needed to bring in those comic book readers who will not give Diana a chance...

I don't know, it is troubling yet I can see where it might bring in new fans, if done well.

I absolutely am not going to judge this too quickly. I am a lifelong WW fan, I go where she goes.

Azzarello, please take care with our Amazon.

Posted by Miss Menace

I personally don't know what to say really..I mean ..Nyah

Edited by Erik

@Babs:

"She has never had a successful relationship with a male character; all she has ever done was fight them (with the exception of Steve Trevor, but that did not last long)."

Not sure what you mean here. If you mean romantically, her relationship with Steve Trevor only seemed like it did not last long for Post Crisis Wonder Woman because it quite literally never happened. Steve Trevor was cast in more of a father figure role for Diana which makes sense considering he was an elderly man since her Post Crisis debut.

If you mean any kind of platonic relationship, 30+ years worth is plenty long lasting. Her friendship with Steve Trevor never ended at all Post Crisis.

If you mean her fight with Steve Trevor did not last long, that is because she never fought him either.

Posted by Jamiracles

@Hazlenaut said:

Thought the impact of her being the daughter of Hades was more surprising in the Justice League Animated Series. Did they go with the lightning bolt hitting statue carved by Hippolyta? Was there ever someone call her a golem? There should be a villain that belittles her for that. Check out metal sonic in this video

Came the day every post on Comicvine ended with a Metal Sonic video.

Edited by Hazlenaut

@Jamiracles: that was painful to my ears. Are you planing on using that noise for torture or riot control.

Posted by komikboy

@RedheadedAtrocitus: talking about heracles... i hope DC new 52 will made Heracles to more "equal/gray" character than before... i meant before, Heracles is portrayed more as jerk, more as a man who rape hypolyta and forgeting his labour that he kind of a hero in his time.

I know that matriarcal issue somehow related in WW origin/universe... but it doesn't meant that amazon or in this particular issue, Diana doesn't need a man. It just that a woman in their community system is the one who taking control. If i allow to be compare, i like how Drizzt/Drow matriarcal being told better than (old) DC's amazon.

but i think i'm being Out of topic.

i still intrested to see how Azzarello wrote Diana having a dad

Posted by Jamiracles

@Hazlenaut said:

@Jamiracles: that was painful to my ears. Are you planing on using that noise for torture or riot control.

Dude, I'm a follower don't ask me complex crap like that.

Posted by TheCrowbar

Yes she should have a father figure that she has no issues about so I never have to read an arc about her dealing with her daddy issues.

Posted by DMC

Nice article Babs but this is still really hard to swallow for me.

Personally I could give 2 craps about "humanizing" her or making her relatable, well not in this manner at least. IMO her original origin made her special, made her unique compared to the other gods and superheroes. I can't sympathize with a Wonder Woman with daddy issues, especially Zeus.

"Sorry Hippolyta, your baby wasn't a gift made just for you, we just gave you one of Zeus's bastard children."

Sure we've heard her origin before but not new readers/general public who know next to nothing about her (ftmp). Her origin isn't rocket science, it's not that "mind-boggling"to explain, most people are already familiar with god/goddesses of mythology to begin with. What's so difficult to grasp about a clay baby brought to life?

I don't mind the Greek gods as part of the WWU, they have to be there in some form or another. I prefer them as part of the supporting cast not the central cast. But making her a member of the Greek pantheon "family' makes WW less appealing to me.

It's too bad Geoff wasn't on this title. He was able to turn Aquaman haters into believers and what did he change about is origin?

Absolutely. Nothing.

Posted by AMP - Seeker of Lost Knowledge

I thought Hades was her father (as seen on Justice League. Watch this clip and skip to 1:20 on clip)

Posted by Chibi-Iroh

This is the perfect chance for DC to change and affect Diana's view of men. There is no need in this day and age to have a Wonder Woman that still hates men, Diana needs to have a view of men that shows her that not all of us are the same that there are good men and bad men. I would love for Zeus to be the catalyst of a non man hating Wonder Woman.

Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

Yeah, I don't have a problem with this. It'll bring out a lot of entertaining stories. Also, it makes sense that Zeus is her father since he screws everything that walks. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a pass at Diana even though she's his daughter.

Posted by GothamRed

we'll see what they do with it, to soon to judge

Posted by monitor_earthprime

well this is a deal breaker for me. I have stopped getting Wonder Woman due to this news.

Posted by Rudyftw
Posted by JonesDeini

@B'Town said:

@talladegamatt said:

Great Article Babs. Although the verdic is still out, I think it's a risky venture to change the historical foundations of a grand institution such as Wonder Woman, or Superboy for another recent example. It's one thing to write stories and add little pieces that fit into the history. You can even predate the history, but rewriting it differently leaves me with a feeling that all the time invested and care put into understanding the characters and lore is wasted. It seems like it negates the richness cultivated in the character and storyline. It's analagous to someone making a new Star Wars movie where Luke's father turns out to be Obi. Hopefully, I'm wrong and it's a good thing and hopefully, they don't venture much farther than this.

My gut agrees with you. But there is also a small voice, in the back of my brain saying that maybe this is what is needed to bring in those comic book readers who will not give Diana a chance...

I don't know, it is troubling yet I can see where it might bring in new fans, if done well.

I absolutely am not going to judge this too quickly. I am a lifelong WW fan, I go where she goes.

Azzarello, please take care with our Amazon.

I understand your concern but I trust Azz and I'm all for changes as long as their written well and stick to what I subjectively perceive as the core of the character. We must remember that characters have always undergone changes to make them relatable to a new generation of readers. It used to be that every 14/15 years readers would leave comics then creators would tweak, tinker, reboot origins for a new group. Ever since the 80's that more or less ended as comics became more niche and people suddenly became lifelong readers. I'll always be partial to "my" characters and their "true" versions but far be it from me as a fan to try to pigeonhole a writer and prevent a new reader from experience "their" Wonder Woman. Imagine if Alan Moore hadn't tweeked Swamp Thing?! We may not've had a Vertigo line! I actually applaud this move though, because it's one of the few signs of true change in the "new" 52. And it's being done by a very, very talented and proven writer no less. The only other real change I've heard about and am remotely interesting in seeing is how The DCnU Constantine will work seeing as how he's the same age he was when he "walked out" of the DCU.

Posted by papo

this is my first wonder woman book that I have picked, so far other than blackest night wonder woman by Greg Rucka and I really liked it.

Also this is my first Brian Azzarello other than Flashpoint Batman Knight of Vengeance wish it was a good read. I guess that is what it drove me to get wonder woman #1 Brian Azzarello. So I don't think he is going to make changes like in the batman character but I can see him playing on the thin line. hopefully he will please old fans and new fans since that is what the new 52 is all about bringing new readers and unfortunately comic book characters evolved. lets hope this change is for the best

Posted by CrimsonTempest
@DMC said:

It's too bad Geoff wasn't on this title. He was able to turn Aquaman haters into believers and what did he change about is origin?

Absolutely. Nothing.

While I agree with this sentiment, I say give Azzarello time to let WW grow. Who knows? He might surprise you.
Posted by le_rooster

I am excited about the changes and the new series for Wonder Woman. I never cared to read WW before and I am enjoying it now.

Posted by Xaviersx

She was and will always be a bast*rd piece of clay. All hail Zeus.

Posted by doublezeroduck

I've never really cared for the character much but I still think changing her origin takes something away from her. Made of clay to be a better example sounds better than some female version of Hercules. Daughter of a god and a human woman. Not feeling it. Buuut, like I said, didn't care for the character before and nothings really changed.

Edited by ahgunsillyo

@Babs: Well, thanks a bunch. Though I was suspecting that Diana's father would be Zeus, I was actively trying to avoid this bit of information until I actually read it in the comic. Luckily, every comic news blog/site that I had visited prior to right now had been hiding the actual spoiler behind the jump (even Tony properly hid the identity of her father in his reveal article from a few days ago). However, here I come to the Comic Vine front page, and your article, featured front and center at the top of the page, spoils that Zeus is the father right in the subtitle. Great.

I hate to sound like a stereotypical butt-hurt fanboy, but it's not exactly easy to avoid these types of spoilers these days and having big reveals spoiled prior to reading the book kills a great deal of the surprise and fun of going in cold. Doing stuff like posting spoilers in large letters on the main page doesn't help, and that's not cool.

Posted by kfhrfdu_89_76k

Hey, at least it`s different from the regular-DC-universe-of-what-we-used-to-read-comics-about-but-can`t-anymore-`cause-that-is-now-the-regular-DCU. It`s good to have things stirred up sometimes. Too bad that things get stirred up all the time, these days...

Posted by GraveSp

@Neverpraying said:

Wonder Woman says MY PARENTS ARE GODS! While Bruce and Clark say our parents are dead :(

lol

Posted by Michiel76

Well think of it this way, at least she has a better story to tell when she has children of her own.

-Mommy where do babies come from?

-Diana: they are made out of clay.

-Yeah right mom!!

Then again, telling your kids that Grandpa was a murdering sexmaniac, might not be the best option, maybe she should stick with the clay story.

Posted by hitechlolife

I think if it wasn't Zeus it'd be a far less appealing prospect. This means Diana is basically like Hercules from Mythology in the sense that she's a demigod with Zeus as a father and a relatively mortal mother (well non-godess at least.). She'll still have her classical 'torn between two worlds' theme, only on a much more epic scale.

Posted by Mercy_

Spoilers much?

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Posted by DMC

@CrimsonTempest said:

@DMC said:

It's too bad Geoff wasn't on this title. He was able to turn Aquaman haters into believers and what did he change about is origin?

Absolutely. Nothing.

While I agree with this sentiment, I say give Azzarello time to let WW grow. Who knows? He might surprise you.

I'll read up to issue 3, but he's on thin ice.

@Chibi-Iroh said:

This is the perfect chance for DC to change and affect Diana's view of men. There is no need in this day and age to have a Wonder Woman that still hates men, Diana needs to have a view of men that shows her that not all of us are the same that there are good men and bad men. I would love for Zeus to be the catalyst of a non man hating Wonder Woman.

Who says she hates men? Sure since they're starting over she might start out way but having a dad like Zeus won't do much to help matters. He's the worst example. (giggidy giggidy)

Posted by UnosInfinitos

Eh well see because I liked WW's view of men being an "outside looking in" thing with "men suck" stories being told by her sisters and mom and kinda worry her having a dad will make her one of those hypocritical lesbian straw feminist with a tumblr. Basically "I was taught with stereotypes and learn that not ever man is a jerk and that even some women can be complete dicks".

"Men are assholes because my dad was an asshole, XX power foreverz"

-Straw Lesbian Feminist (who's not even lesbian- superman save us)

Seriously there's difference between a strong independent woman and "bitch".

Posted by evo23

I don't really mind that they are giving her a father but, as others have said I would prefer it wasn't Zeus. It just seems too run of the mill for a character like Diana. Probably anybody who had to guess who her father would be 99% would say Zeus. Personally I would have rather had Hades or even better Ares be her father It would add an interesting dynamic to their relationship.

Edited by azza04

Never really liked the Greeks Gods having a presence in the DC universe. Pretty indifferent to this news.

Posted by Eyz

It was sort of implied in the ol' Perez-John Byrne-Rucka-Gail Simone continuity pre-New 52 anyway. But more like "spiritually" than a proper father.

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