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Should The Black Panther and Storm Marriage Have Been Annulled?

We analyze what was wrong with the marriage of these two characters as well as the way it all ended.

A comic event can make drastic changes to the status-quo very quickly. We've seen this happen countless times. It's no question that writers often use events to propel their own agendas and get things to change fast, rather than having to develop a huge story to evoke those changes.

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In a single issue characters can die, they can become possessed, they can switch alliances, their marriages can fall apart -- all in the blink of an eye; or in the case of Marvel's AVENGERS VS. X-MEN event, all in one issue. It's hard to believe that a marriage and relationship that took writer Reginald Hudlin years to build could all be torn down in literally one panel like the marriage of Storm and T'Challa was in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #9. If you haven't read the issue yet then, spoiler alert, the two are no longer married thanks to the High Priest of Wakanda's (T'Challa) annulment of their marriage. In fact, we mentioned the dissolution of their marriage in a recent article, but we didn't get into a whole lot of depth, which is why we're talking about it now.

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Regardless of how you felt about these two characters while they were married, you might agree that the way their marriage ended was rather bizarre. Aside from the fact that the whole scene was really disheartening and humiliating for Storm's character, it also made T'Challa look like a complete jerk; particularly since he blamed his now ex-wife for something he knew was coming (the destruction of Wakanda). But aside from the fact that both these characters looked bad, the way the creative team approached the dissolution of their marriage is a good example of the poor treatment of marriages in comic books.

Before we get into all of that, let's take a step back to analyze what really happened. Before the release of AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #9, Black Panther appeared in Jonathan Hickman's FANTASTIC Four #608. In this issue, T'Challa travels to Necropolis with Reed Richards and is met by a spirit of the Panther God, the same entity that bestowed the duties and responsibilities of the Black Panther onto T'Challa and then later, to his sister Shuri. There is a scene about halfway through the issue where we see the Panther God touch T'Challa's head; as though he is enlightening him and showing him a vision. In this vision, (which is illustrated on the following page in the issue) T'Challa sees a "great fire in the sky," (the Phoenix Force) and is told that "that fire will bring a great flood [to Wakanda]." T'Challa witnessed the coming destruction of Wakanda brought on by the Phoenix Force -- so when it actually happens in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN, why did it come as such a surprise to him? And why didn't T'Challa tell Storm about the vision? I feel like a flood is something that the Goddess of Weather could do something to help control -- even stop. Rather than approaching his wife, T'Challa dissolves their marriage acting as if it never happened: embarrassing her and treating it as though she is to blame for Wakanda's destruction. Now, that's not exactly the way two married people act, even in a crisis; and it's a poor reflection of married couples in comic books. When two married people disagree, they normally have enough respect for one another to talk things through. You can't just up and divorce someone because you feel like it. The scene in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #9 was a great disservice to both characters. It made T'Challa appear too arrogant for his own good, and it made Storm look weak and unimportant. T'Challa essentially placed the blame on Ororo for the destruction of Wakanda when he knew it was coming all along (refer to the vision in FANTASTIC FOUR #608). This entire scene didn't really make sense considering T'Challa knew the destruction was coming, and Storm did not. Also, he really took the time to dissolve their marriage after Wakanda had been completely leveled? Why was that even a priority under those circumstances?

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Yet, some would say the annullment of Storm and T'Challa's marriage is something they saw coming. Prior to the AVENGERS VS X-MEN event, Storm and T'Challa have been living relatively separate lives. While he took over as the "Black Panther: Man Without Fear" in Hells Kitchen (while Daredevil trekked 'cross country to try to figure things out), Storm was playing on Utopia with the X-Men, solving mutant and X-Men problems. The two would occasionally "Skype" as we witnessed on panel, but for the most part, T'Challa would ask that Ororo stay away. He often acted like he did not want her around, at least that's the way it's been in the last year or so of his appearances. Yet, it wasn't always this way. There was a time where these two would work together; when they had a respectful relationship.

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Prior to their marriage issue, you might recall seeing a six-issue miniseries titled STORM that focused on the first meeting and the relationship between Black Panther and Storm. It was the story of how these two met and fell in love as children, and it outlined a very young, timid Ororo who was unsure of herself, and a somewhat overconfident T'Challa who had embarked on his "walkabout," and was traveling throughout Africa. It was as much a story about T'Challa's journey to become a warrior and Ororo's understanding of her own power as it was about the two of these characters falling in love. There were some great moments in this limited series, as well as some scenes that foretold of the way T'Challa would speak to Ororo in AVX #9 (his constantly putting her in her place). And while this series may have been well intentioned, it wasn't the best example of a solid foundation for their relationship.

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A better example of their interactions and the way they could work well together was seen when the two appeared in FANTASTIC FOUR alongside the Thing and Johnny Storm. The run where these two characters take over for Sue and Reed while they go on their "second honeymoon" is a fantastic example of how it is possible to write these two characters well and depict them working together. Late writer Dwayne McDuffie stressed mutual respect between these two characters in his series; and it was obvious. He proved that while these two are very different, they can still be written in a way that demonstrates that they have respect for one another.

What is frustrating isn't just the way their marriage ended (which was pretty cold, mind you), but also the events that led up to the end of the only black marriage in Marvel comics. These two could have had a great marriage. They could have worked together (as we saw in FANTASTIC FOUR) and this event could have been used as a hurtle they would overcome together in order to build a stronger relationship as well as a stronger Wakanda. It's enough that there aren't a whole lot of black heroes in comics -- there aren't very many marriages in comics period. This marriage had the potential to succeed and to be strong. It had the potential to flourish and be interesting. It could have been a great example, but in the end it all fell flat. The real slap in the face is in the way it ended. As though the last six years never even happened. Now, it's not that I was a huge fan of these two together, I'm just saying I could have been if their marriage and their characters were treated differently. Instead, it feels like Marvel just didn't know what to do with Black Panther and Storm. What do you think?

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tss, you see another failure in comic marriage, I see another failure in black character writing. The black ones always make the sh!tty choices. There was a black hulk in ultimate U...He was evil. The prowler is snoop dogg in a tight jumper. Luke Cage...runs a prison. The Falcon and Misty knight...? Exactly who TF are they. Regardless they clearly only pull out black characters to develop other stories, rather than compiling respectfully on that characters personal background. T'challa is the only one to get even close to a respectful back story and image. I don't want to jump the gun though, maybe the whole plan is to split them to make the marriage sell better in the end, or just a necessary plot device for later in case a) they actually have something planned involving Storm or b) the fans like me and most of us get pissed off and deny it

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@The Stegman said:

The marriage was destined to fail from the beginning, seemed kind of loveless if you ask me, it's like the folks at Marvel said, "Oh, they're both African, so of course they should be together!''

I can get behind that

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At least they didn't make a deal with the devil to make it happen!

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They gave BP Hell's Kitchen instead of giving us a Storm and Black Panther ongoing series.: (

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@The Stegman said:

The marriage was destined to fail from the beginning, seemed kind of loveless if you ask me, it's like the folks at Marvel said, "Oh, they're both African, so of course they should be together!''
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@DocFatalis said:

I am biased because I think Storm is an atrociously boring character while the Black Panther is fascinating in many ways (the series drawn by Jack Kirby was one of my favourite readings when I was a child, especially the part with the Solomon tomb) but I think this marriage never should have happened. The whole thing seemed to be dictated by the idea that black people marry black people. Aside from that, the two have practically nothing substantial in common and the combination of the two never proved proficient.

Wakanda deserves a full time king and a better queen, someone with an intelligence and strategic skills sharp enough to help BP make his country weigh on the international scene more than Latveria for example.

I do believe that marrying BP to a shield top ranking executive would be way more interesting for the marvel universe.

If one more person says this, I might pop a d*mn blood vessel

Some people never read Storm's run as leader of the X-Men. You know, when she gave Cyclops a run for his money? Good times. Best to not address any claims of her being "unintelligent and not strategic enough."

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Very well-written article, Babs. Couldn't agree with you more.

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no it should not have all it means is the lack of skill that the writers have to write real things i.e. marriage

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I'm glad it got annulled. Black Panther and Storm both are aligned with different super hero teams of course they were going to bump heads, but Black Panther shouldn't have been a child about it and went all "annulment" on her ass. Storm is a strong woman and if she goes back for him that's pathetic and she should just be full time with teh X-Men again.

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Yeah the more that I read through this article, the more it makes me think that Marvel for years had itself a marriage on their hands that just...well it wasn't bad...and it wasn't great...it just wasn't much of anything. And they needed an event of some great magnitude to give it the test of either succeeding or not. I don't know, seems Marvel needed AvX as an excuse to end that marriage, which further proves my suspicion that too many in the comic industry are divorcees and thus burned in real life relationships as symbolism for why marriages seem to fail in comics.

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Yes, by virtue of this marriage occurring because one writer wanting the ultimate trophy wife for his pet character and having enough television credentials to actually have Marvel higher ups go, hey, okay, you get what you want and in return for us selling out Storm to you we want you to do this and that. Oh and hey feel free to retcon the two characters history so you have your pet character save the character he will eventually marry one day. 
 
Granted I think the characters had/have potential together, but so do lots of characters potentially. You pair any two characters up in that way, at least try and get a writer who likes both characters sincerely and wants the best for both long term and that can actually stay with the two characters long term to make it work. I do feel bad for any fans of the two though, then again they might be back together again all things being Marvel.     

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@Babs said:

@White Mage said:

@DocFatalis said:

I am biased because I think Storm is an atrociously boring character while the Black Panther is fascinating in many ways (the series drawn by Jack Kirby was one of my favourite readings when I was a child, especially the part with the Solomon tomb) but I think this marriage never should have happened. The whole thing seemed to be dictated by the idea that black people marry black people. Aside from that, the two have practically nothing substantial in common and the combination of the two never proved proficient.

Wakanda deserves a full time king and a better queen, someone with an intelligence and strategic skills sharp enough to help BP make his country weigh on the international scene more than Latveria for example.

I do believe that marrying BP to a shield top ranking executive would be way more interesting for the marvel universe.

If one more person says this, I might pop a d*mn blood vessel

Some people never read Storm's run as leader of the X-Men. You know, when she gave Cyclops a run for his money? Good times. Best to not address any claims of her being "unintelligent and not strategic enough."

My name is Etienne, not "some people". I have read the stories you mentioned and haven't found them interesting. Well just shoot me. I have written it here before and will write it again: maybe with more creativity and a better personality would Storm become a good character. We got a good example of what is doable when she allowed the new X-men to escape Magneto's grasp by dominating her claustrophobia and resorting to her pick locking abilities. Except from that story, there is nothing I can remember of that was even remotely relevant or interesting about her belonging to the team, let alone lead it.

Just because I don't share your point of view doesn't mean I don't know comics. I just disagree.

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Marvel and DC sure do hate marriage.

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@DocFatalis said:

@Babs said:

@White Mage said:

@DocFatalis said:

I am biased because I think Storm is an atrociously boring character while the Black Panther is fascinating in many ways (the series drawn by Jack Kirby was one of my favourite readings when I was a child, especially the part with the Solomon tomb) but I think this marriage never should have happened. The whole thing seemed to be dictated by the idea that black people marry black people. Aside from that, the two have practically nothing substantial in common and the combination of the two never proved proficient.

Wakanda deserves a full time king and a better queen, someone with an intelligence and strategic skills sharp enough to help BP make his country weigh on the international scene more than Latveria for example.

I do believe that marrying BP to a shield top ranking executive would be way more interesting for the marvel universe.

If one more person says this, I might pop a d*mn blood vessel

Some people never read Storm's run as leader of the X-Men. You know, when she gave Cyclops a run for his money? Good times. Best to not address any claims of her being "unintelligent and not strategic enough."

My name is Etienne, not "some people". I have read the stories you mentioned and haven't found them interesting. Well just shoot me. I have written it here before and will write it again: maybe with more creativity and a better personality would Storm become a good character. We got a good example of what is doable when she allowed the new X-men to escape Magneto's grasp by dominating her claustrophobia and resorting to her pick locking abilities. Except from that story, there is nothing I can remember of that was even remotely relevant or interesting about her belonging to the team, let alone lead it.

Just because I don't share your point of view doesn't mean I don't know comics. I just disagree.

she is an interesting leader and you forgot about her awesome mohawk look. : )

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honestly, i didn't like the marriage but decided to give Marvel a chance. and since after the marriage did i find out that BP is awesome, the marriage grew up on me. But they're just not developing their marriage so nullifying it is the best thing to do.

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@ARMIV2 said:

And another marriage in comics is shot down.

Anybody in comics still married?

Northstar and Kyle...

Hopefully this one can last. It'd be nice to see one marriage stick it through.

Just wait... Kyle will be the victim of some mutant/gay hate or something! Maybe in a year or so.

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No, nullifying the marriage was NOT the best thing to do. The BEST thing that Marvel could do was actually find a pool of writers who actually knew how to WRITE AN INTERESTING marriage. It's all about imagination...this marriage had (has?) the potential to be something extremely significant in the Marvel Universe, so what were (are?) the writers waiting for? Are the writers at Marvel architects, or aren't they? Why should Susan and Reed Richards be the only ones to have a sustainable marriage? On the other hand....the marriage might not be as over as we are being led to believe.

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@moneyspider1 said:

No, nullifying the marriage was NOT the best thing to do. The BEST thing that Marvel could do was actually find a pool of writers who actually knew how to WRITE AN INTERESTING marriage. It's all about imagination...this marriage had (has?) the potential to be something extremely significant in the Marvel Universe, so what were (are?) the writers waiting for? Are the writers at Marvel architects, or aren't they? Why should Susan and Reed Richards be the only ones to have a sustainable marriage? On the other hand....the marriage might not be as over as we are being led to believe.

If Mcduffie was still with us I would have put him on it in a heart beat, but when he died their marriage fell apart. He was the only one who made it work.

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@moneyspider1 said:

No, nullifying the marriage was NOT the best thing to do. The BEST thing that Marvel could do was actually find a pool of writers who actually knew how to WRITE AN INTERESTING marriage. It's all about imagination...this marriage had (has?) the potential to be something extremely significant in the Marvel Universe, so what were (are?) the writers waiting for? Are the writers at Marvel architects, or aren't they? Why should Susan and Reed Richards be the only ones to have a sustainable marriage? On the other hand....the marriage might not be as over as we are being led to believe.

i think it is considering that the marriage story wasn't good at all.It started bad, it ended bad.

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Just because people think it "started bad" does not mean it cannot be made better. If something's bad, you improve it. Even if you tear something "bad" apart, you rebuild it and make it better and stronger.

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Black History Mont was over. they moved on to the next gimmick wedding idea. Same sex marriage. BOTH were good ideas, both were/are done for the WRONG reasons...

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@moneyspider1 said:

Just because people think it "started bad" does not mean it cannot be made better. If something's bad, you improve it. Even if you tear something "bad" apart, you rebuild it and make it better and stronger.

I have waited for something good to happen, the ff issue and Xmen worlds apart was great but that was just it. everything else wasn't good or wasn't good enough.

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if you ask me, i think that they were just thrown 2gether because they both are african. they were put 2gether by an african american writer no less, and i'm african american!!! could have been dissolved better than that but if we have a world crisis and you side with your friends against me, your husband!!! biitch it is over!!

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@_Sojourn_ said:

I remember when they first got married. I haven't met anyone that thought it was a good idea in the first place. It was a rushed attempt to pull in black readers, and it was even more of a disaster the way their marriage was portrayed, and ended. Both of these characters have been treated with such little respect for so long, I want shocked when it was announced they would be fighting each other, and I wasn't shocked that Storm lost to Black Panther. I wasn't socked, although happy, when they were annulled. Now maybe Storm will get some respect, and BP can come out of the closet.

Not that I'm homophobic, but gtfo here lol Luke cage has a baby. If BP comes out the Marvel U is Officially devoid of black hetero Bachelors

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@papad1992 said:

@ARMIV2 said:

@papad1992 said:

@ARMIV2 said:

And another marriage in comics is shot down.

Anybody in comics still married?

Northstar and Kyle...

Hopefully this one can last. It'd be nice to see one marriage stick it through.

Just wait... Kyle will be the victim of some mutant/gay hate or something! Maybe in a year or so.

You're probably right with that...

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@Luster77: What's wrong with a black writer wanting to write about a black couple? You make it sound like that should not have been done? When two white characters are thrown together (like, ALL THE TIME), do the writers ever get accused of throwing the characters together because the characters (and the writers of those characters) are white? This is part of the problem...when Caucasian people do certain things, it's seen as acceptable and "normal," and no one raises an eyebrow. When minorities do the EXACT same thing, society always finds something wrong with it. Yes, both Storm and the Black Panther are black. Yes, Hudlin is black. Yes, Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson are white. Yes, Stan Lee is white. The difference in the those two scenarios was that it took the Parkers longer to marry than it took Storm and the Black Panther to marry. Skin color should not have anything to do with it. If people want to rant and rave that the royal wedding happened too fast, fine, that's a valid criticism. But this skin color criticism that people always come up with is beyond ridiculous.

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Eeeh it always felt like a gimmick wedding compared to many of other Marvel weddings where you just kind of screamed "FINALLY!!" when it happened. Who didn't dance with Sue&Reed or Jean&Scott or Peter&Mary Jane?

Storm had much more believable romantic tensions with Forge and Bishop IMHO. ... in the 90s. >_>

It least it felt less wedding for wedding say than the most recent in Astonishing X-Men which was Oh So Coincidentally timed to be exactly during LGBT Pride month. Whether that meant rushing the story or not. I hope that the long term consequences of rushing that wedding are that Marjorie Liu gets to write a story about two people (not gay people. just people.) who get married out of fear/anxiety/etc and then suddenly realize they are married and how do they have to negotiate that. If THAT is were Liu is going with the rush job that was that wedding in Astonishing X-Men then Kudos to her because that could be a cool story to tell. "Oh crap I rushed into marrying my Mutant boyfriend and now I have to deal with all these consequences we never thought about along the way."

Storm/T'Challa wasn't a rush job per se, but wouldn't it have been swell if we had had a bit more time to see why their marriage was failing, Storm in AvX early screams "this is why we are in couples therapy!" I mean... who WOULDN'T want to have seen a side story of those two in therapy. Maybe it is just me but I loved it when X-Factor went to therapy or more recently the New Mutants did. It always revealed great things about characters who seem to lack thought bubbles of exposition these days.

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It has really become a joking point nowadays. When a couple gets married, you can start your countdown for BS incoming because they can't settle anything without Drama. Because people love Drama and every marriage should be about Drama... This sad mentality caused the 'marriage' term to become a joke and caused such mind-boggling actions like this. Characters acting like MORONS or children...'' I saw a vision ...my kingdom is destroyed...oh and I think should blame you and I annul our marriage for the sake of it ! ''.............WTF ? Really ? It has come to that ?! Are you that weak of a writer to come up with BS like that ? .... Personally I shouldn't be suprised at ANYTHING related to marriage in comics after OMD...... When they go that ''deep'' in the pool of BS ... I think they have no dignity left to create a marriage people will respect or at least not make fun of.

Was Storm and Black Panther an ideal couple ? Maybe, maybe not. It is a matter of opinion and how they are handled ... which says Not Good. But to end it in such a fashion....makes me want to find these people and ask '' What the hell were you smoking ? And your parent's divorce effected you this much ?! '' .....Seriously, I can't take ANY relationships seriously on comics anymore, as I said in previous topics about it, since it is basicly a time-bomb of BS ready to blow and make you scratch your head on '' What the hell they were thinking ? ''...

I know all the excuses of '' But long-term they get stale and boring and repeatative and without Drama it is not fun ! ''....well let me tell you this, after every arc, getting a new relationship and messing up the previous one for some nonsensical and ridiculous reason is getting OLD as well. So much so that I started to see the 'successful' relationships as a geniune suprise and put my alarm-clock to pause mode....

It is just sad...adds nothing to the characters ...hell it devalues them in many ways just like we saw in Storm and Black Panther's case...

All I can say is that, if you won't go through with it for a long time ( at least 1-2 years ) and only setting marriage or relations just to spawn more BS later on ...Please slap yourself in the head and stop yourself from doing such moronic mistakes. It will be better for you and us. Or have the dignity to create a Legitimate issue and not some BS you came-up at the last minute

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In comics what is a good idea for one writer is often difficult for another to take on. Thats the most common execuse for relationships ending in comics, whatever actually happens to break various couples up. Some writers might be great at writing for heroes but when it comes to relationships some are simply not up ot the task. Over time people notice differences in how characters in relationships are written and then an editorial decision will be made. Storm and T'Challa are both prominant characters in the Marvel universe and almost from the beginning their relationship it was clear to most people their marriage was going to be strained as they were going to be apart alot of the time. Of course writers that use both characters did not help matters rarely showing them together.

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@Luster77: What's wrong with a black writer wanting to write about a black couple? You make it sound like that should not have been done? When two white characters are thrown together (like, ALL THE TIME), do the writers ever get accused of throwing the characters together because the characters (and the writers of those characters) are white? This is part of the problem...when Caucasian people do certain things, it's seen as acceptable and "normal," and no one raises an eyebrow. When minorities do the EXACT same thing, society always finds something wrong with it. Yes, both Storm and the Black Panther are black. Yes, Hudlin is black. Yes, Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson are white. Yes, Stan Lee is white. The difference in the those two scenarios was that it took the Parkers longer to marry than it took Storm and the Black Panther to marry. Skin color should not have anything to do with it. If people want to rant and rave that the royal wedding happened too fast, fine, that's a valid criticism. But this skin color criticism that people always come up with is beyond ridiculous.

there's really nothing wrong with that but without a good foundation for these two characters falling in love, without a good story and without a good follow-up, we cannot blame why people think it was because of the color that Marvel decided to pair them up and have them get married.

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Maybe this will be cleared up in 'A vs X: Consequences'.

Although i do have to agree that BP was being a real jerk to Storm, Marvel really knows how to screw with a promising relationship.

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I'll start off by saying I was never a huge BP+Storm fan, so I never kept up with it. But just knowing how frequently Storm was working with the X-Men, it was pretty obvious there was some conflict of interest in the writing department. Not every couple will be 'smoochie, smoochi, I love you, honey!' But where was the courtship, where was the woo'ing, where was the honeymoon phase, where was the affection? Again, I never paid much attention, I know they had 'their past' (but it was distant past, nothing recent to my recollection), but if Storm was in Utopia all this time, there obviously isn't a lot of love and characters-as-a-couple development. In all honest opinion, I think the marriage was an attention getting ploy for Marvel; it was so forced, I'd have sooner believed the characters had a secret marriage arrangement they suddenly had to make good on (which is true, but not something set in a story, it was something planned by Marvel.). Who is the first black character people will think of 90% of the time? Oh, Black Panther, and why not? He's king, he's awesome, he's a hero. Well, a king needs a queen? Who is worthy of being a queen to this king? Well, shoot, Storm is black (Because there was no way Black Panther was marrying another ethnicity! Just like not Sue Storm, nor Maya Lopez ever stood a chance at being the female Black Panther!), she's a well-known figure in the Marvel pantheon, PERFECT!

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@Surkit said:

@_Sojourn_ said:

I remember when they first got married. I haven't met anyone that thought it was a good idea in the first place. It was a rushed attempt to pull in black readers, and it was even more of a disaster the way their marriage was portrayed, and ended. Both of these characters have been treated with such little respect for so long, I want shocked when it was announced they would be fighting each other, and I wasn't shocked that Storm lost to Black Panther. I wasn't socked, although happy, when they were annulled. Now maybe Storm will get some respect, and BP can come out of the closet.

Not that I'm homophobic, but gtfo here lol Luke cage has a baby. If BP comes out the Marvel U is Officially devoid of black hetero Bachelors

How about him?

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On a serious note - come on Marvel, really? It(the marriage) was discarded in such an off handed way. All I could do was roll my eyes.

THey better fix this. I swear if I see Storm screwing someone on the rebound... I'm all but off X-Men right now as it is. That would be the last straw. Marvel needs to fix this asap

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@Metatron_Da_Don said:

@Surkit said:

@_Sojourn_ said:

I remember when they first got married. I haven't met anyone that thought it was a good idea in the first place. It was a rushed attempt to pull in black readers, and it was even more of a disaster the way their marriage was portrayed, and ended. Both of these characters have been treated with such little respect for so long, I want shocked when it was announced they would be fighting each other, and I wasn't shocked that Storm lost to Black Panther. I wasn't socked, although happy, when they were annulled. Now maybe Storm will get some respect, and BP can come out of the closet.

Not that I'm homophobic, but gtfo here lol Luke cage has a baby. If BP comes out the Marvel U is Officially devoid of black hetero Bachelors

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Exactly, what about him lol For as long as I've read comics he's never had a depthed character history. He pops up in random stories to be an extra token monority, then leaves un heard from again until they need another token

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Their marriage was a mistake as it just felt to me that Marvel was pairing up their token black hero and their token black heroine together. It felt too gimmick-y, affirmative action-y, boost the sales and don't care what happens next-y.

WOLVERINE AND STORM FOREVER!!

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I thought the whole marriage was out of no where and pointless so an anullment is fine with me

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It shouldn't have happened to begin with. There are only two characters that I can see Storm with long term and possibly marrying and thats Wolverine and Nightcrawler.

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Regardless if the marriage between these two characters was a good idea or a bad idea...the dissolving of their relationship was handled TERRIBLY and it makes me sad.

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they were in two different places. bp wasnt in it and storm wasnt in it. so i think this opening a door for both of them.

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@Miss_Garrick said:

Their marriage was a mistake as it just felt to me that Marvel was pairing up their token black hero and their token black heroine together. It felt too gimmick-y, affirmative action-y, boost the sales and don't care what happens next-y.

WOLVERINE AND STORM FOREVER!!

me too. : )

Storm and Wolverine forever!!!

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I agree that Storm's and the Black Panther's marriage was often treated poorly and its ending was kind of ridiculous.

Still, it doesn't really come at a surprise, for numerous reasons. Lately, Marvel seems to have been intent on wrecking most of its romantic relationships in stupid ways and for no reason, from Wolverine and Melita, to Rogue and Gambit or Spidey and Carlie.

As for this particular relationship, It seemed doomed from the start. It looked like the only reason they were together in the first place was that they were the only high profile African Marvel characters, as some kind of Token Minority Romance. The characters barely had any contacts before the marriage, and during they spent most of their time adventuring, often separately. They barely felt like a couple.

Still, T'challa blaming Storm for Wakanda's plight, and annulling their marriage didn't feel natural or logical. T'challa is a genius, he has to realize that Storm had nothing to do with the fall of Wakanda, It's not like she played any major role in the fight against the Avengers, nor did she send Namor to Wakanda or tell the Avengers to hide there. It feels like T'challa just wanted to lay the blame to someone he could punish, and since Storm was the only one he could reach, she was the one to pay the price. It doesn't reflect well on anyone.

I also wonder about how the marriage could be annulled. Storm was formally accepeted by the Panther god herself, so does it mean that Bast also holds Ororo responsible for Wakanda's fall? Did T'challa consult with his god at all before taking this decision?

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When it was announced that Marvel was going to use retcons to bring together Black Panther and Storm the logic behind the decision was obvious. Take what are arguably the two most recognized and important black characters in the Marvel U and make them a power couple and more prominent in the big picture.

Sadly the execution of this was done poorly to be kind, at this point even Marvel has had to admit that they butchered the idea so bad that the breakup is necessary to loosen or remove the ties between them so they can start over on their own. I really do not think at this point marvel really had any other options other than sending them both to limbo while they tried to figure out how to fix the mess they made.

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And another marriage in comics is shot down.

Anybody in comics still married?

Animal Man is. I think Aquaman is married too.

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http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2012/08/03/black-pantherstormforesight-is-my-ot3/

What makes this personally frustrating for me is that I am fascinated by the circumstances of T’Challa’s separation from Ororo. From what I understand, the X-Men launched a devastating attack on Wakanda, and thus Panther cannot remain married to a woman associated with war criminals. Without knowing more of the context, I’m intrigued by this development because it’s textbook T’Challa–no matter what he may want as a man, his obligations as a king and high priest take priority, and he doesn’t mince words about it. This raises all kinds of questions I’d like to see examined, whether it’s the final word on their marriage or not.

I think the core thought of the larger post is where I'm at. The marriage was foolishness and the annulment wasn't much better, but that doesn't need to be where it ends. Instead of letting these stunts stand alone, the opportunities they allow to explore the characters involved (though I'm really only thinking about T'Challa) could be seized. And that could easily include going over what exactly T'Challa was thinking when he didn't bring knowledge he gained from his chat with Bast to this whole AvX kerfuffle. But they likely won't be since short term thinking seems to be Marvel's game plan.

So right now I would totally pay for comics dealing with the aftermath of the annulment. But I don’t have any faith that Marvel will really tell that story, because experience suggests they have no plan for what happens next between Panther and Storm. It’s more likely the two characters will have nothing to do with one another until their paths cross in some future companywide event. At that point, in some brief nod to their history, they’ll either exchange icy glares or unexpectedly reconcile and leap into each other’s arms. It’ll be enough to get people talking for a week…but only for a week.
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Storm and Black Panther should have never gotten married. With the exception of their skin color and the fact that they are both heroes, they have nothing in common. Storm should have married Forge, the love of her life, because they had much better chemistry and their history, was much more believable than the retooling of the history with Storm and the Panther. Just something else to point out, not all relationships and marriages work out and it doesn't matter the color of your skin, race, age, sex or financial status. Just look at Dr. Henry Pym and Janet Van Dyne, Quicksilver and Crystal, Vision and Scarlet Witch, Prof. X and Lilandra, Dr. Strange and Clea, Scott and Jean, Green Arrow and Black Canary, Wolverine and Viper, Nightwing and Starfire, Namor and Marina, Capt. Atom and Plastique, Gambit and Bella Donna, for whatever reason, justified or not, these marriages, did not work out.....just like Black Panther and Storm.

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@DocFatalis said:

I am biased because I think Storm is an atrociously boring character while the Black Panther is fascinating in many ways (the series drawn by Jack Kirby was one of my favourite readings when I was a child, especially the part with the Solomon tomb) but I think this marriage never should have happened. The whole thing seemed to be dictated by the idea that black people marry black people. Aside from that, the two have practically nothing substantial in common and the combination of the two never proved proficient.

Wakanda deserves a full time king and a better queen, someone with an intelligence and strategic skills sharp enough to help BP make his country weigh on the international scene more than Latveria for example.

I do believe that marrying BP to a shield top ranking executive would be way more interesting for the marvel universe.

If one more person says this, I might pop a d*mn blood vessel

Some people never read Storm's run as leader of the X-Men. You know, when she gave Cyclops a run for his money? Good times. Best to not address any claims of her being "unintelligent and not strategic enough."

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@Brazen_Intellect said:

When it was announced that Marvel was going to use retcons to bring together Black Panther and Storm the logic behind the decision was obvious. Take what are arguably the two most recognized and important black characters in the Marvel U and make them a power couple and more prominent in the big picture.

Sadly the execution of this was done poorly to be kind, at this point even Marvel has had to admit that they butchered the idea so bad that the breakup is necessary to loosen or remove the ties between them so they can start over on their own. I really do not think at this point marvel really had any other options other than sending them both to limbo while they tried to figure out how to fix the mess they made.

Poor Execution indeed.

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Their marriage was a sham and publicity stunt from day one. Good riddance to garbage. The way they butchered the classic story of their meeting with that Storm mini was just sickening (not to mention ringing of sexism). Their marriage benefited neither character, especially storm, and few writers ever felt any impetus to explore it and make it seem real. Hell, I wouldn't have even went through the trouble of that panel to annul it. I would've literally made it a off handed remark during either of their first appearances post AVX

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Maybe they just wanted to show us that you can be a jerk without being possessed by a cosmic force... in fact, if T'Challa does know and does not act upon it, it'd make him accesory to the whole flood thing. There's a lot of nonsense going on, the only ones that act as if they knew their lines are the ones possessed. I mean, why has Rachel Summers'... I was going to say "relationship whit the phoenix" but i'm gonna go with "whole life" been so thoroughly ignored in this event... ooohhhh let me see: Was not her dad a jerk to a clone of her mom to... wait a minute, did they make a jerk out of a perfect gentleman? That time Cykes was NOT possessed... or was he? or her not-wife... the one with the convoluted phoenix-relationship, was she?

I know what is this about. The phoenix force comes every few years to wreck some Marvel's Universe marriages.

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BP and Storm were written out of character on AvX