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Should Black Widow Get Her Own Movie?

Actress Scarlett Johannson reveals she wouldn't mind exploring the character's "interesting past."

Since Iron Man, Captain America and Thor have all already received movie treatment, and with production on Joss Whedon's upcoming The Avengers film (due to hit theaters next year) already underway and close to completion, it's no wonder people have started asking what the next big Marvel Studios project will be. If you've been paying attention then you already know that both Thor 2 and Iron Man 3 are slated for a 2013 release and that the Captain America sequel is slated for a 2014 release, but what about the other members of the Avengers team?

Whedon's Avengers movie will bring plenty of faces (both old and new) to the forefront including the Hulk, Black Widow and Hawkeye -- so is there a chance that we may eventually see one of these characters take center stage in their own movie? In the case of actress Scarlett Johansson who plays Black Widow in both Iron Man and the Avengers, it's not something she is ruling out. In a recent interview Johansson revealed that she really loves the character and wouldn't mind exploring her very "interesting past."

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"I love playing the Widow. I think she's got a very interesting past, a lot of storylines to explore, and certainly Kevin (Feige) loves that character...I think that Marvel has a very personal relationship with their fans, and I think if the fans want it, and the audience wants it, nothing's impossible. I would love to explore that option as well. Like I said, I love the character and it would be nice to see something nice and gritty."

Johannson, who plays Black Widow in the film, is referred to as Natalie Rushman in Iron Man 2 where she acted as a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent who was responsible for infiltrating Stark Industries -- a very different incarnation from the character in the comics. If you've read the Avengers comic books then you know that Black Widow is Natasha Romanova, a former KGB and one of the S.H.I.E.L.D.'s very best agents. If Marvel did decide to make a Black Widow film they would definitely have to explain Widow's heritage and lack of accent, although we think there are plenty of spy stories they can tell whilst leaving the fact that she's supposed to be Russian out of it.

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This wouldn't be the first time we have seen news of a possible Black Widow film. In fact, last year when asked whether we would see a Black Widow film, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige replied that it would "definitely [be] possible...Yes, absolutely." Not exactly a definitive answer, but most certainly a positive one. In fact, long before Black Widow made her cinematic debut in Iron Man 2, screenwriter David Hayter (WATCHMEN, X-MEN) was slated to have been working on a Black Widow movie around 2005. When asked about the film that never came to be, Hayter indicated his disappointment in his script never fully being realized.

I had a very solid relationship with Marvel, having worked on a number of films with them, and I was looking for something to write and direct. They brought up Black Widow, and I knew the character very well from the comic book. So I spent about a year working on the script, and I was extremely happy with it. Essentially, the story is a young Russian girl’s parents are killed, so she’s given to the KGB to be developed into a super spy...I felt it was very timely and very cool. Unfortunately, as I was coming up on the final draft, a number of female vigilante movies came out. We had Tomb Raider and Kill Bill, which were the ones that worked, but then we had BloodRayne and Ultraviolet and Aeon Flux. Aeon Flux didn’t open well, and three days after it opened, the studio said, “We don’t think it’s time to do this movie.” I accepted their logic in terms of the saturation of the marketplace, but it was pretty painful.

Although we may never get to see Hayter's vision for Black Widow on the big screen, it is something that Marvel considered not too long ago. While it may not have been the "right time" to make a Black Widow movie then, perhaps enough time has passed that they could give the idea a shot.

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If anything, Natasha Romanova certainly has a rich character history. Long before she played with the good guys, she was a member of the KGB and one of their top agents. She has successfully completed missions and been responsible for getting things done. As an Avenger, Black Widow has had plenty of interesting stories (as well as romantic interests) over the years. Over the course of her character history she has proven herself as one of the best spies in the Marvel universe, having infiltrated organizations like Freedom's Light and Norman Osborn's Thunderbolts team during Dark Reign. She's been heavily involved in many of Marvel's biggest story arcs like Secret Invasion and Civil War, and has proven that (when written well) Black Widow can be a really interesting character. She is currently a member of the Secret Avengers and has proven that she can definitely kick some major butt, too.

Do you think Black Widow should get her own movie? What is the ideal Black Widow story to you, personally?

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@Mercy_: Viper would be good.

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@tg1982 I kind of think that Viper would be awesome, but admittedly haven't put too much thought into it.
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@Vance Astro said:

She can't even hold her own comic..why would they bother giving her a movie? If they were to make it Scarlet better be nude because that's the only way she can make up for way off portrayal of Natasha.

Neither can Blade, but he has 3 movies, a live action series, and an anime, so why couldn't Black Widow get a movie, if it flops, then it flops, at least they tried.

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He's saying that you could take a comic book villain that belongs to somebody else (who will potentially never even be used in a movie - there are plenty of them) and adapt it for a Black Widow movie. It doesn't have to be somebody from her rogue's gallery (which is relatively non-existent) in the comics. It could be from somebody else's.

What villian do you think could work, I think they could do a Black Widow vs Black Widow (Yelena Belova) or maybe even Baron Strucker or Madame Hydra, or they could make up a character like they did in Bade 2

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I liked her in the Avengers

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@TheCannon said:

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@TheCannon You've never heard of the Red Room? How familiar with Widow are you, considering its her origin? It doesn't really matter if you've heard of them before or not. How many people had heard of Whiplash before the Iron Man movie? Or Obadiah Stane? You don't have to have heard of something in order for it to be interesting or make sense within the plot of a movie.

Technically it was a combination of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo.

Fair point. However, my previous point still stands.

How the heck do you have a superhero movie without a villain?

He's saying that you could take a comic book villain that belongs to somebody else (who will potentially never even be used in a movie - there are plenty of them) and adapt it for a Black Widow movie. It doesn't have to be somebody from her rogue's gallery (which is relatively non-existent) in the comics. It could be from somebody else's.

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@TheCannon You've never heard of the Red Room? How familiar with Widow are you, considering its her origin?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but to be fair, the Red Room is from the retconned origin from '10, not the original.

There's a good chance you're right. I read her appearances completely out of order, so everything starts to skew together.

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@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon You've never heard of the Red Room? How familiar with Widow are you, considering its her origin?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but to be fair, the Red Room is from the retconned origin from '10, not the original.

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How the heck do you have a superhero movie without a villain?

Not without a super-villain, just without a Black Widow specific Super-Villain.

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@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon You've never heard of the Red Room? How familiar with Widow are you, considering its her origin? It doesn't really matter if you've heard of them before or not. How many people had heard of Whiplash before the Iron Man movie? Or Obadiah Stane? You don't have to have heard of something in order for it to be interesting or make sense within the plot of a movie.

Technically it was a combination of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo.

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2) No good villains (it would be Elektra all over again)

The Red Room could be adapted for a movie, and I don't think it would be that hard, especially if they went the spy thriller route. I will concede that Widow lacks notable enemies of her own.

She doesn't need Villains of her own though. Think about it, how many villains in the Marvel universe will never see the light of Movie? You can use them. Just because in the comics they're not known as Widow enemies, it doesn't mean anything.

How the heck do you have a superhero movie without a villain?

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@ReVamp Good point.
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@TheCannon You've never heard of the Red Room? How familiar with Widow are you, considering its her origin?

It doesn't really matter if you've heard of them before or not. How many people had heard of Whiplash before the Iron Man movie? Or Obadiah Stane? You don't have to have heard of something in order for it to be interesting or make sense within the plot of a movie.

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2) No good villains (it would be Elektra all over again)

The Red Room could be adapted for a movie, and I don't think it would be that hard, especially if they went the spy thriller route. I will concede that Widow lacks notable enemies of her own.

She doesn't need Villains of her own though. Think about it, how many villains in the Marvel universe will never see the light of Movie? You can use them. Just because in the comics they're not known as Widow enemies, it doesn't mean anything.

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@Mercy_: Of course you do. The only requirement for that is having good taste.

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@Mercy_ said:

@ReVamp: I like you.

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Okay. Now, I like Black Widow. she's not my favorite, but I like her. My problem with a Black Widow movie would be:

1) Not big enough of a name

I half agree with this. I'm saying right now that I adore the character so I have a blatant bias, but she's well-known in the comic community and she had prominent roles in Iron Man 2 and now Avengers as well. They're going to capitalize off of that as much as possible and if they believe that it would be profitable, it's going to happen.

Hell, they made the Elektra movie (I honestly can't be bothered to check if it was the same studio, so this may be entirely irrelevant). Putting aside the quality of the film (which I don't count as a comic book movie because it was so damn terrible), it still managed to not only break even, but bring in about 13 million dollars. Not the best profilt margin, but still one, nonetheless.

2) No good villains (it would be Elektra all over again)

The Red Room could be adapted for a movie, and I don't think it would be that hard, especially if they went the spy thriller route. I will concede that Widow lacks notable enemies of her own.

3) Where are you suppose to go with a plot? At least someone like Ant-man you can doing something with.

I can think of a few off the top of my head. Red Room sending agents for her, espionage coming back to bite her in the ass. General spy movie stuff with a comic book twist.

I never even heard of Red Room.

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@ReVamp: I like you.

@TheCannon said:

Okay. Now, I like Black Widow. she's not my favorite, but I like her. My problem with a Black Widow movie would be:

1) Not big enough of a name

I half agree with this. I'm saying right now that I adore the character so I have a blatant bias, but she's well-known in the comic community and she had prominent roles in Iron Man 2 and now Avengers as well. They're going to capitalize off of that as much as possible and if they believe that it would be profitable, it's going to happen.

Hell, they made the Elektra movie (I honestly can't be bothered to check if it was the same studio, so this may be entirely irrelevant). Putting aside the quality of the film (which I don't count as a comic book movie because it was so damn terrible), it still managed to not only break even, but bring in about 13 million dollars. Not the best profilt margin, but still one, nonetheless.

2) No good villains (it would be Elektra all over again)

The Red Room could be adapted for a movie, and I don't think it would be that hard, especially if they went the spy thriller route. I will concede that Widow lacks notable enemies of her own.

3) Where are you suppose to go with a plot? At least someone like Ant-man you can doing something with.

I can think of a few off the top of my head. Red Room sending agents for her, espionage coming back to bite her in the ass. General spy movie stuff with a comic book twist.

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As long as Barnes is in there.

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@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon said:

@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon said:

@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon: Why do you say that?

Because she is and always has been nothing more than a supporting character. What are you suppose to put in a solo movie with her? The eating, talking, reading. It would basically be Elektra all over again.

Are you talking from a movie standpoint or a comic book standpoint? Movie, I can see your point, I just don't fully agree w/ it. From a comic perspective, I disagree wholeheartedly.

From both. Why do you disagree with me from a comic perspective?

To people who actually know and love the character and are aware of what she's done, her accolades stand for herself. She's had several ongoings, numerous minis, she lead the Avengers for a good time and has shown herself more than capable in times of need. She's the only person with Level 10 clearance on Earth other than Nick Fury himself.

Widow is completely capable of standing on her own. The biggest part of the problem is that Marvel simply sucks at pushing their females. If they were as adept as say, DC, she'd have a much more prominent position in the MU by this point.

As it is, she's completely capable of standing with the big boys and doing so without powers.

IMO, a solo movie with Widow would be awesome, but that's coming from a comic book reader and a lover of the character. To all the general audience who haven't read a damn comic in their life, there's a big misconception that she was put in as the eye candy, which is kind of totally BS. Natasha's been an Avenger pretty much since her inception and has one of the longest tenures on the team (not to mention leading it, as well). She does everything the big boys do and she does it without powers. A Black Widow movie would not be as successful (IMO) as any of the other movies.

However, if they did it right (spy thriller or something of the sort) and they made it a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie and further explained their past history and such, then I think it would be a great success. Maybe not as big a seller as Iron Man or Thor, which were two incredibly high-grossing movies, but a good (even great) movie nonetheless.

Okay. Now, I like Black Widow. she's not my favorite, but I like her. My problem with a Black Widow movie would be:

1) Not big enough of a name

2) No good villains (it would be Elektra all over again)

3) Where are you suppose to go with a plot? At least someone like Ant-man you can doing something with.

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@TheCannon said:

@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon said:

@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon: Why do you say that?

Because she is and always has been nothing more than a supporting character. What are you suppose to put in a solo movie with her? The eating, talking, reading. It would basically be Elektra all over again.

Are you talking from a movie standpoint or a comic book standpoint? Movie, I can see your point, I just don't fully agree w/ it. From a comic perspective, I disagree wholeheartedly.

From both. Why do you disagree with me from a comic perspective?

To people who actually know and love the character and are aware of what she's done, her accolades stand for herself. She's had several ongoings, numerous minis, she lead the Avengers for a good time and has shown herself more than capable in times of need. She's the only person with Level 10 clearance on Earth other than Nick Fury himself.

Widow is completely capable of standing on her own. The biggest part of the problem is that Marvel simply sucks at pushing their females. If they were as adept as say, DC, she'd have a much more prominent position in the MU by this point.

As it is, she's completely capable of standing with the big boys and doing so without powers.

IMO, a solo movie with Widow would be awesome, but that's coming from a comic book reader and a lover of the character. To all the general audience who haven't read a damn comic in their life, there's a big misconception that she was put in as the eye candy, which is kind of totally BS. Natasha's been an Avenger pretty much since her inception and has one of the longest tenures on the team (not to mention leading it, as well). She does everything the big boys do and she does it without powers. A Black Widow movie would not be as successful (IMO) as any of the other movies.

However, if they did it right (spy thriller or something of the sort) and they made it a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie and further explained their past history and such, then I think it would be a great success. Maybe not as big a seller as Iron Man or Thor, which were two incredibly high-grossing movies, but a good (even great) movie nonetheless.

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@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon said:

@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon: Why do you say that?

Because she is and always has been nothing more than a supporting character. What are you suppose to put in a solo movie with her? The eating, talking, reading. It would basically be Elektra all over again.

Are you talking from a movie standpoint or a comic book standpoint? Movie, I can see your point, I just don't fully agree w/ it. From a comic perspective, I disagree wholeheartedly.

From both. Why do you disagree with me from a comic perspective?

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@TheCannon said:

@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon: Why do you say that?

Because she is and always has been nothing more than a supporting character. What are you suppose to put in a solo movie with her? The eating, talking, reading. It would basically be Elektra all over again.

Are you talking from a movie standpoint or a comic book standpoint? Movie, I can see your point, I just don't fully agree w/ it. From a comic perspective, I disagree wholeheartedly.

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@Mercy_ said:

@TheCannon: Why do you say that?

Because she is and always has been nothing more than a supporting character. What are you suppose to put in a solo movie with her? The eating, talking, reading. It would basically be Elektra all over again.

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@TheCannon: Why do you say that?

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Black Widow does not deserve to get a movie. A SHIELD movie with her one of the main characters, maybe. But her own solo movie, no.

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I would say yes. Then in Captain America 2 they hopefully introduce Winter Soldier (Bucky). And then they could do a Winter Soldier and Black Widow Movie

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It sounds good but considering how "Elektra" and "Catwoman" did; maybe not.

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I'd watch it. I casually like Widow.

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@Mercy_: glad you liked it :)

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@fodigg: We don't speak of the Elektra and Daredevil movies as being comic book/Marvel movies. It hurts too much (but I agree with your point)

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I mean if Jolie can do it in Salt then anyone can.

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yea i think so ....

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If they do a Balck Widow movie of course they would have her speaking in russian the only reason she doesn't in the movies so far is, as others have stated, because she was undercover as an american to fool Tony, complete with a fake name "Rushman". In A BW movie she would at the very least have flashbacks of her training in russia speaking russian (or english with an accent learning to mask it.) In which case Scarlett could get a voice coach to help her.

I mean if Jolie can do it in Salt then anyone can.

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Huh, I missed this article somehow the first time around.

I think that Marvel needs to have a film with a female lead. Not just a female hero involved, but an actual female lead. I'm not the biggest Black Widow fan to begin with, but I recognize that the character is one of the few female Marvel superheroes that's had her own comic book series. And I'm definitely not a ScarJo fan, but "Natasha Rushman" certainly seems to be the FilmVerse's leading lady. If they're not going to give a chance to other well-known female properties (e.g., She-Hulk, Maria Hill, Ms. Marvel, Rescue, Mystique, Storm, Wasp, Jessica Jones) then they should make a Black Widow film, even if I'd prefer Natasha Romanova and a different actress (e.g., Emily Blunt).

I mean, the only female Marvel lead in film we have is Elektra. That is so, so sad.

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ScarJo's BW is great. I would LOVE for her to get her own movie. She was the best part of IM2 (along with Whiplash). Yes, she was far better than RDJ's Tony. 

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Yes.

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@Vance Astro said:

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I'm entirely aware. But she's also a spy, the (arguably) most important part of which is being able to blend into your surroundings and remain inconspicuous. Russian accent is pretty identifiable and pretty noticeable. It makes perfect sense, IMO, from a character standpoint for her not to have it.

In the case of a film based on Black Widow though, wouldn't it make sense for her to at some point to have a Russian accent since that's where her story begins.

In the case of a Black Widow movie, yes, absolutely, My comments were based more towards those speaking about her lack of accent in the movies that she's already appeared in.

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@Mercy_ said:

I'm entirely aware. But she's also a spy, the (arguably) most important part of which is being able to blend into your surroundings and remain inconspicuous. Russian accent is pretty identifiable and pretty noticeable. It makes perfect sense, IMO, from a character standpoint for her not to have it.

In the case of a film based on Black Widow though, wouldn't it make sense for her to at some point to have a Russian accent since that's where her story begins.She was still working for a Communist Russian regime when she first started coming around the Avengers so I understand that around them she would probably mask her accent the way actors from other countries do when they play Americans but I don't know why that would make sense outside of it.Most likely Scarlet Johansson simply can't pull off a Russian accent and that's why if there were to be a film they would probably only make her speak Russian in flashbacks with a younger person playing her who can.
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@Vance Astro said:

@Mercy_ said:

I don't understand everybody who's complaining about the lack of Russian accent.

Because Black Widow is Russian.

I'm entirely aware. But she's also a spy, the (arguably) most important part of which is being able to blend into your surroundings and remain inconspicuous. Russian accent is pretty identifiable and pretty noticeable. It makes perfect sense, IMO, from a character standpoint for her not to have it.

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@Mercy_ said:

I don't understand everybody who's complaining about the lack of Russian accent.

Because Black Widow is Russian.
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I don't understand everybody who's complaining about the lack of Russian accent.

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I would watch it a Black Widow movie.

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I'd rather see a Black Widow series than a movie

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Don't like Johansson as Widow. 
Don't like the lack of Russian accents 
Don't think the movie would do well.

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I don't know...

I like Black Widow.. and I like Scarlett Johansson... But Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, IMO, is worse than January Jones playing Emma Frost.. It wouldn't feel right.. Maybe a different lady Avenger instead or a Shield movie with her, Fury, and Hawkeye.

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She can't even hold her own comic..why would they bother giving her a movie? If they were to make it Scarlet better be nude because that's the only way she can make up for way off portrayal of Natasha.

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I liked Scarlett Johannson, and if they do make a movie about her they better start giving her more of a part in the new Avengers movie.

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You guys that say the character wasn't named right, and wasn't Russian do realize that she was probably still Russian in the film, right?. When it's revealed that she's a shield agent in the doughnut shop, Fury introduces her as Agent Romanov.... And the lack of a Russian accent can be explained away by her being undercover? I dunno actors train their accents all the time so I'd think that a spook agent would do it too. Just saying though. As for a Black Widow movie, it could be okay, and I'd watch Scarlett Jo in it. She's at least a huge piece of eye candy. lol

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Hayter's version sounds like Salt.

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Lack of accent? In the cartoon series, she goes back and forth between having the accent and not having it. I say its just phasing out.

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I'll watch anything with Scarlett Johansson in it

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@entropy_aegis said:

@jrock85: Eh they can make a prequel to Iron-Man 2.

I'm okay with that.