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September's Futures End One-Shot Covers for Weeks 3 and 4

Check out the last couple of weeks of covers for September's event

Last week, DC released a bunch of covers for weeks 1 and 2 of September's Futures End 3D lenticular covers. Today, DC released the covers for week 3 and 4. Here they are! If you want the solicit info for these books, click here!

Week 3 Covers

BATMAN & ROBIN

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BATMAN/SUPERMAN

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BATWOMAN

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GREEN LANTERNS: NEW GUARDIANS

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JUSTICE LEAGUE

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TEEN TITANS

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RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS

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SUPERGIRL

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TRINITY OF SIN: PANDORA

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SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN

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Week 4 Covers

AQUAMAN & THE OTHERS

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BOOSTER GOLD

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CATWOMAN

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THE FLASH

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HARLEY QUINN

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JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK

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RED LANTERNS

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SINESTRO

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STAR-SPANGLED WAR STORIES FEATURING G.I. ZOMBIES

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Make sure to order these, if you like them, as soon as you can from your LCS!

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KLARION!!!!! not really a fan of the new Wally but ill read it

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@hislolita: It's okay. Thank you for your empathy. I will remain hopeful as well, but for now, I think it's best to appreciate what I have. Thanks, and see you later!

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I love all the covers. I am especially relieved Cassie's outfit on the Teen Titans' cover has been corrected. Looks much better.

@twentyfive:

I don't mean to bring this thread back up to upset you, but I did want to let you know I understood and agree with all the points you made about representation. We need writers and artists of visible ethnicity working on more titles from the Big Two. Hopefully change will continue and at a much faster pace than now.

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Yeah I mean DC seriously needs to lay off the politically correct gig and changing characters's drastically in some cases(ie wally) I mean it's not like he's a college major or got a job, he's a punk kid spray painting walls...lol wtf?

Maybe they were influenced by Bart in N52/Smallville Bart....from punk, thief etc to hero...IDK lol

@Twentyfive, I disagree for one how has DC mistreated minorities in the past? I'm one and don't feel that way at all...I think some politically correct fans feel that way but that's subjective and opinion....

Besides, it's not like DC doesn't have minorities already or have had them. John Stewart? Vixen? Simon Baz? Kyle Rayner(he's half mexican)? Mr. Terrific? Kaio? Static? Black Lightning? MMh over the years while a martian has taken both white and black forms...shall I go on? So I don't really see the point of wally having to be black(a punk, thug no less) I mean come on? A character as big as Wally should be respectable and relatable. This wally is in no way, shape or form can relate to the reader. It's all politics with some new characters via N52, Simon Baz, Scott Allan and now Wally...

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While reading the comments on this thread, I had an epiphany! I realized my situation, and I assume many others are in the same or a similar situation, and still don't realize it. The reason I hate the new Wally West is not because he's black. What happens is that when I get confronted by this new Wally, I get so enraged that I can't think straight and immediately comment on the most obvious physical change. What really is the problem is that Wally West was a character with decades of rich history, and that character has now been deleted and they give his name to a twelve-year-old with none of that history. That's the issue.

That's pretty much the same issue many are also having with Marvel's Nova from his greater predecessor. And the bigger backlash about that was it wasn't even a "reboot" at all. The writers just deliberately omitted explaining what happened.

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It's like a big promise in 5 years everything will be ruined xD

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Why does the future everywhere always have to be SO grim and awful especially in comic books?

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Eff this, I'm gonna go to Con and go up and take a pic with DC Writers in a pre52 Kid Flash cosplay costume

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So Booster Gold is getting his own title again? Cool. Maybe Ted Kord will be a regular in that.

They haven't said anything about Booster getting an actual ongoing series... They've just said that he is having this one-shot. But, mind you, his is the only book that does not have an ongoing series going into that month...so yeah.

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@lvenger: got a question for you. If you could have any writer and artist team of your choiseing work on any character who would it be ? For me it would be either DnA or Mark waids during the writing and Tony S Daniels on Superman.

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@outside_85:

I also thought that she look alike Black Alice.

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@kivatt: You do realize he's been in like two scenes so far? How can you make a character judgement when he's barely been shown, and the writers have said that he's going to grow as the series progresses?

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that's not wally in the future costume bro lol

last I checked he wasn't black

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"not wally's" costume is horrendous.

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LOL this reminds me:
Punching out an Eyeball.
the Watcher wasnt the first...

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@rubear: You are an idiot. Bye bye.

Y'know - it's not normal to speak with mirror. xD Bye bye, быдло.

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@rubear: You are an idiot. Bye bye.

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Lovin' Wally.

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@twentyfive said:

@rubear: What a stupid response. It means so much to me because i want to see more representation in media. I want to see more people that look like me doing the things I wish I could do. I want to see more people like me working in industries that people look up to.

That isn't a concept you recognize though, you jerk. I'm not going to take any comments from you seriously again.

Heh. You're right. That's not a concept i would recognise, because this is not concept at all, this is bullshit. If you want more representation of tra-la-la you should vote for return of Milestone with all Icons and Rockets and not for some puny racelifts and stupid changes of skin. And valuing of writers skin more that their talent? This is racism, pure and simple. Nazi in Europe begin from this.

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  • Booster Gold, my old friend.
  • Blue Lantern Guy Gardner.
  • The return of the Heretic.
  • Mystery Superman.

Color me interested.

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@rubear said:

Lol. Actually she looks here more like her ebil or not so version from Earth-3, Annataz (?) %)

Not really, Annataz was practically identical to Zee except she had wild hair. I get the other impressions because:

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OOOOOOO! That Superman/Batman cover is really getting my attention but may likely anger the super batfans. hahahaha

I admit I did have very mixed feelings when I finally read The Flash Annual #3 - Slip. Yes its no longer the same Flash when I began reading my uncle's copies in the early 90's and yes it's completely out of character from the Justice League television series I loved, and was also shocked about Barry's sudden return in 2007 but somehow I don't harbour the burning hate of a thousand suns over this. For now I'm willing to give this character a chance as its way too early to tell the character of this new Wally West when he was just newly introduced and he hasn't even learned or aquired his speed powers just yet. Hopefully his origins will happen in the Futures End event where (also wishful thinking) the changes will be handled well by Jurgens, Giffen, and Azzarello. Crossing fingers is pretty much all I can do as a reader here.

Though I cannot blame these hardcore Wally fans as well cause I have that same feeling with regards to Marvel about Nova. Till this day I can barely accept this new Nova they constantly keep pushing due to continuity problems and massive inconsistencies to the character's lore from his predecessor in 2010.

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@rubear: What a stupid response. It means so much to me because i want to see more representation in media. I want to see more people that look like me doing the things I wish I could do. I want to see more people like me working in industries that people look up to.

That isn't a concept you recognize though, you jerk. I'm not going to take any comments from you seriously again.

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@twentyfive said:

But what both companies need to do to somewhat alleviate this situation is hire black writers, and writers belonging to racially minority groups. That's another topic for another day, though.


You know that you are racist if question of skin and orientation means so much for you...?

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I really don't like the change of established characters just to say '' Hey , he is ___ now ! See ? We are diversifying ! ''

Is it too hard to create original characters without butchering the previous ones ? I mean why the change for Wally ? As if DC enjoying inflicting pain on Wally fans '' Oh he is not at the launch and he is not the original Kid Flash and so on . ... Oh wait he might come back ! ...Yay he is back as a totally different character that in no way resembles Wally West but name is there ! Enjoy ! ''

DC forget not every character can only be carried by their name like Batman. Is it an outrageous idea for DC to think fans actually LIKE characters because of their CHARACTERISTICS ?! ...

God, why not change this guy into a NEW Flash and have him just took the identity of Wally ? I mean why 'literally' kill who Wally was ?

Also this Future's End mess doesn't make me optimistic about the changes really O.o

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@lvenger: I'm not a big flash fan.

Fair enough, this won't be such a big loss for you then.

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@cobsohn: Watch the language, swearing is not allowed on CV. First warning .

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I'm not an American, and I respect all the races,but I still think this move of DC is weird, we are all Wally's fans, but turning into a African American? Seriously?It is not keeping the balance, why don't they just create a new character, another Flash maybe. Learn something from your brother Marvel, please. Miles Morales is just a good example.

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So Booster Gold is getting his own title again? Cool. Maybe Ted Kord will be a regular in that.

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@z3ro180 said:

@lvenger: wally west is black ? AlSo masked supermn looks badass

How have you missed this news? It's been on the Internet for over a month now. Consider yourself lucky you haven't seen it till now. Also technically the new Wally is bi-racial.

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It is a nice costume but I would prefer it on Tempest or someone other. It seems too superheroic and Arthur is the king of the seas first and a super-hero second, I find it weird to see him wear tights instead of Gold-scale cuirass and the fact that it looks like a diving suit makes it even weirder for me because I can't imagine an atlantian needing one but it is a nice costume :-P

Yeah I could see it working on Tempest (in 17 years or so thanks to the New 52 making Tempest a baby) and I do prefer the orange chain mail on him. Having said that, it would make a great movie outfit IMO. Better than the orange chainmail approach given its colour scheme, design and practicality to make and how it would look on the actor.

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I'm gonna have so much reading to do.

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While reading the comments on this thread, I had an epiphany! I realized my situation, and I assume many others are in the same or a similar situation, and still don't realize it. The reason I hate the new Wally West is not because he's black. What happens is that when I get confronted by this new Wally, I get so enraged that I can't think straight and immediately comment on the most obvious physical change. What really is the problem is that Wally West was a character with decades of rich history, and that character has now been deleted and they give his name to a twelve-year-old with none of that history. That's the issue.

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@br_havoc:

Wait are you trying to tell me that most no all white people can relate to what a black person goes through? Please tell me that's not what you're saying. Yes black people can relate because a lot of use face the same stereotypes, racism, struggles, and adversity.

If you want a person writing about you and your people would it not be better to have a person of similar background write it? If there was a Nigerian superhero who's powers was based on their jobs, I'd rather a Nigerian write it because we have the same culture and it's more relatable.

No, I didn't say that at all and I can tell my cynicism was lost in text. I was showing that the ideals of superhero comics are universal to humanity and this ridiculous notion that race some how makes a character more or less relatible is a lie.

The way you type " you and your people" you are purposely segregating the audience and that is wrong, the audience is a melting pot so a character needs to be universally relatible.

The answer is no, I do not want a person with the similar background of the hero writing it, because if that was the case about 99 percent of the comic heroes we love would of never been invented. What I want is the best writer to write and the best artist to draw, The notion that a white person, black person, green person could not relate to a character or enjoy the writing of a minority character because the writer is not part of that minority is ridiculous. If that were true (Which it is not) then great writers like Peter David or Gail Simone all their great stories and characterization would not be valid or relatible to that community when that is not the case.

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@br_havoc:

Wait are you trying to tell me that most no all white people can relate to what a black person goes through? Please tell me that's not what you're saying. Yes black people can relate because a lot of use face the same stereotypes, racism, struggles, and adversity.

If you want a person writing about you and your people would it not be better to have a person of similar background write it? If there was a Nigerian superhero who's powers was based on their jobs, I'd rather a Nigerian write it because we have the same culture and it's more relatable.

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@kivatt said:

@br_havoc:

I agree hire you best talent, but you still need minority writers. How can a white person write about, and make a story believable from let's say a black person's point of view? How can they relate to us when they haven't been int he same situation as us, they haven't walked in out shoes. They do not know what we have and currently go through. They'll be writing off of speculation instead of life experience, and that is not something people can relate to.

A good writer makes a character's point of view, universal no matter what race they are. There should be no black point of view or white point of view, it is the character's point of view. Pretty much what you implied in your comments is that all black people go through the same things and that white people and black people cannot relate to each other, I know you do not actually believe that but that is what your comments pretty much said.

Superheroes there stories focus on acts of heroism and escapism mixed in with feelings of being isolated, lost and different and searching for a purpose all of these are universal truths that any person can relate to and see themselves in, no matter what race, sexual orientation or religion affiliation.

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@br_havoc: Too true, you are. But a lot of the time, writers are hired through editors they know or some sort of connection. That is how they become well known. How many minority writers do you see writing other stories for these companies to look at them, because these companies are not taking the best talent off the street. They are hardly given the chance. That's for sure. And on that ground, there becomes a tangible problem with the scape of the industry. That's why it is frustrating for me both as a reader and a writer.

And you seem to think that diversifying the industry would merely be for 'diversity's sake,' like a whole lot of other original comments on the internet (no offense to you, just annoyed). And while you and a lot of other people see it that way, I see it as adding a genuine voice to the ethnicity of character you are creating, instead of falling on stereotypes, or bland characters like the scores of ones Marvel and DC have. That "diversity for diversity's sake" line is the last line of defense, in my opinion, of people who already know they wouldn't support the kind of product that helps comics as a whole.

I have noticed that as of late, especially with DC I mean you have Snyder's students and Lemires cartoonist buddies running the show now and I do not feel that is right. Talent is what drives the industry and with writers being hired because of circumstance or because of other motives (Minority or what have you). You can't possibly put out the strongest product, I look at the female writers Marvel has and one that sticks in my mind is Kelly Sue maybe she did have an in with Marvel because of her husband but she can back it up and write great stories. Something I have yet to see from Snyders students or Ray Fawkes. I do agree with you that nepotism is a huge problem in this industry.

I really do not understand where you got that I feel this would be "Diversity for diversity's sake" because in no way did I say that all I have said is that I believe a character should be a character first and race/sexualtiy/religion should not be a defining characterization to them. The idea that you feel that you need a black writer to tell a black character's story is ridiculous and is putting the silly idea that race is important and white and black people some how act differently and cannot relate to each other which is BS. In a superhero comic the morals and actions of a character are what people attempt to relate or inspire to.

Okay, this last line you wrote dude your talking out your ass. You're judging me with no facts on what I read and support if you did, you would see that read plenty of books that attempt to be different. When I pick up a book a support it like a Ms. Marvel or an All new Ghost Rider or try books like Vibe or JLU I do not pick them up because they have a minority character or fill an agenda, Because if I did I would be judging the appeal of a book on a minority which in my opinion is like judging someone on their skin color its wrong and perpetuate this stupid idea that race/sexuallity and religion sound define people when they simply do not. I will bring up Kamala once again I read Ms. Marvel because Kamala is a misfit and I can relate to that because I was and still am a misfit not because she is a Muslim hero that is written by a female writer that is of the Islamic faith.

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i'm digging see kal and kara as cyborgs, but damn not feeling that wally costume. I'm not feeling the new 52 wally (and it's not because he is black).

Superman/ wonder woman seems interesting as hell.

Definitely liking the Latern books.

Kalrion on the Teen Titans ha this i have to read.

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@br_havoc:

I agree hire you best talent, but you still need minority writers. How can a white person write about, and make a story believable from let's say a black person's point of view? How can they relate to us when they haven't been int he same situation as us, they haven't walked in out shoes. They do not know what we have and currently go through. They'll be writing off of speculation instead of life experience, and that is not something people can relate to.

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@kivatt said:

@lcazt1996: because he isn't the wally I know and love and they changed him instead of making a new character just to be "diverse" which is so very stupid

Oh and they turned him into a stereotyped black teen. So there's that.

Okay 1. IT'S A REBOOT. That's just how it's going to be. I know it sucks sometimes, but just accept it and move on.

2. Every single time a company changes a character, they're accused of "diversity for the sake of diversity", which I don't think is quite fair. Why do there need to be 1000s of prominent white main characters, while there are only a handful of ANY other ethnicity's main characters. Some would say "Well just introduce a new character!" ... It really isn't that simple. It's just a fact of life that new characters, unless they pick up a mantle that has been passed down (Robin, Kid Flash, Wonder Girl, Flash, Batman, Ronin, Captain America, etc.), aren't as immediately popular as established characters. And if they want a prominent character of a non-straight/white/male background, a lot of times they'll probably have to introduce them as a previously established character whenever a reboot happens...or in the case of sexual orientation, you don't even have to change the character that much.

3. Again, we've only seen him IN A TOTAL OF TWO ISSUES. Sure in those first appearances he seemed like a stereotypical black teen, but people change. Characters change. I think that's the whole point of Iris introducing Wally to Barry, is so he doesn't STAY a stereotypical black teen.

Basically, everyone needs to get the twist out of their panties and move the hell on because it's just the way it is.

1. I know it's a reboot, that's besides the point. It's the fact that Wally has been getting screwed at DC for years. Why? All so they can make Barry look better. Look at Flash:Rebirth the whole thing was just Barry sucking, and what happened after that. Wally became irrelevant, with no books and no hope in sight. They reboot the universe, and what happens? They leave him out just so they can make Barry get the spot light. What they did to Wally was just disrespectful to the character and his fans.

2. It isn't that hard. You're telling me that they can promote Superman 32, and Batman with the old Flash team for month on end, Giving them double panels to promote it, showing the first couple of pages of the bool, all the make people read it, but they can't do the same for a new character to bring new readers is? Whats sense does that make? How lazy is that? You can make a new character without changing Wally. Is he getting his own book? No. He's on Barry sideline. So how can't they do that with a new character? What is so hard about that?

You want to have diversity? That's fine, give Static a new book, give Black Lightning his own book give Rocket or Icon their own book. You have a multitude of ethnic characters in your vault that you aren't willing to use, because why? Hell bring back XS, she's a speedster and Barry's granddaughter. What hard about that?

3. Yes, have a stereotypical black character be even more stereotypical by having a WHITE MAN come in and take him under his wing to make him a better person. How much better is that than what they have now? Oh, it is the same thing they have now. You're talking about Barry making him a non-stereotypical black teenager, when it's making him even more stereotyped. Oh, woe is me, I am a young underprivileged black youth going down a criminal path, and I need the guidance of a white man to make me a better person. How much better is that? You need a white person to make you change, instead of your own race? You need him to be a troubled youth? Why? What logical point is there to this? I love when black people have new characters, hell I am all for that I'm black. But when you go about it the wrong way, and make us look even worse. I do not support that at all.

Yes, it's a reboot. But they can at least be smart about it. Unlike what they have been doing now. You want new characters to sell. Do what Marvel did and promote them. And people wonder why they are outselling DC on all fronts, when their whole business strategy is better than theirs.

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@br_havoc: Too true, you are. But a lot of the time, writers are hired through editors they know or some sort of connection. That is how they become well known. How many minority writers do you see writing other stories for these companies to look at them, because these companies are not taking the best talent off the street. They are hardly given the chance. That's for sure. And on that ground, there becomes a tangible problem with the scape of the industry. That's why it is frustrating for me both as a reader and a writer.

And you seem to think that diversifying the industry would merely be for 'diversity's sake,' like a whole lot of other original comments on the internet (no offense to you, just annoyed). And while you and a lot of other people see it that way, I see it as adding a genuine voice to the ethnicity of character you are creating, instead of falling on stereotypes, or bland characters like the scores of ones Marvel and DC have. That "diversity for diversity's sake" line is the last line of defense, in my opinion, of people who already know they wouldn't support the kind of product that helps comics as a whole.

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Lol at that batman/Superman cover.

@jonsmith said:

Y'know, I reread the Wally West comics to see what the Flash was all about. All of them. Every Wally West comic I could get my hands on. And as a result, now I'm a big fan of the Flash.

So why is it every time I see this new Flash, instead of being psyched, "Yo, Wally's back!", instead I AM FILLED WITH A DARK AND TERRIBLE RAGE?!

Because you are emotionally connected with a character whose personality and appearance is dead with only a name left from him?

Yup....Easy answer to comfort myself...That isn't Wally West. Atleast i have my Geoff Johns omnibi to go back to, And 60 years of history before that.

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This gimmick really doesn't look all that interesting. Zero Month, I wasn't reading comics then (I took a break for awhile) so I can't say how I felt, but the Zero Month was a great idea. From what I understand it was trying to give back story on the established DC characters since the New 52 did change a lot. Villain Month was a cool idea for me at least because the villains of the DCU has always been my favorite part about DC. Though Futures End just seems really stupid. I hope this would be the last year they are celebrating the anniversaries for the New 52. They should just drop the whole New 52 branding and just go on and call it DC Comics. The New 52 isn't even that new anymore. They should just move on and start treating this as DC Comics and nothing else.

I'll probably be skipping this month though I might try some Marvel books. Nova, Silver Surfer, Elektra, Cyclops, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, and Invaders all looked pretty interesting.